by russian terrorists and to what extent they will allow us to carefully assess the state of nuclear materials, so it is difficult to say, i have to say that it is now fashionable to say in the world the courage to be ukrainian and the courage to go to ukraine. i think that we are grateful to the specialists to blink to everyone who agreed to join this mission because it is certainly dangerous, they can just take it towels and this and it will be such very valuable hostages for exchange and but at the same time uh at the same time it is worth saying that i think it is difficult to be uh secretary general megate, when you see how all your nuclear security, which your organization has built up and your

entire career, is being destroyed, in fact, you can't do anything, and that's why i think that the fact that he went is important for him as a person, for him as a professional, and it's very important as for the whole world, what do you say about these five and a half million potassium iodide tablets that the european union sent to ukraine, or could there be any help or support for what is happening now in energodar at the gas station in ukraine, apart from the mission, apart from this batches of tablets, will they really protect us? it all depends on the severity of the accident, if and on the amount of radioactive substances that will enter the environment . the question is not so much iodine prophylaxis, maybe they

wo n’t be needed. leakage of radioactivity from the captured captured territories, that's what the question is, therefore, first of all, it is necessary to prevent any accident and to remove russian terrorists from the territory of the emergency site, you have an accident at the nuclear power plant here plantain, we help you a lot, we hold someone for you and illuminate the eiffel tower with the colors of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power station very, very much to you well, it's better than nothing, of course, here it is. well , there won't be a shortage in pharmacies, at least it means and it's all the same. somehow it's more pleasant to believe that at least something is definitely under control and it's more like valerian for the european union. i think it's potassium iodide to make them feel a little

calmer that they did something. what, for sure. thank you to our experts mr. sergey ms. elena thank you for this inclusion in our marathon, we will actually monitor these developments with the situation already tomorrow, there should be uh, mega experts, well, it's just that it's important for me that we don't devalue the fact that they came, well, anyway, well, just imagine you are a successful person, you live in europe, there in italy, in france, you have a salary of 100,000 euros a year or more, and here you say to a woman with a husband, i have to go to energodar, where is it in ukraine, where there is constant shelling and it is almost the front line, well, that is, it is not so simple well, of course, well, it may seem to us that these are so-so little things, but nevertheless, they do not seem like little things to me, it is good that these specialists are going and it will not be the worst anyway, and we will hear

in the end what they will say after their visit what they saw and what they found out, because we know how the russians know how to present a picture and provide information. andrii mazuvets, president of the association of gas and traders of ukraine, we will talk to him about the gas games of the kremlin, which he is trying to hold hostage and further europe good day, mr. andriy good day actually, please tell me, i will start a little bit differently, for sure, as of now, we really started with the fact that we have a gas market in ukraine that was gradually getting better, there were certain, not super final gains, but there were, so what now we can say that there is still a gas market in ukraine

if we take all the consumption. well, if we are talking about the time until the active phase of hostilities until february. if we take 21 years, then with a consumption of more than 30 ee 2.5 billion, it was divided into approximately three parts the first part is, well, they are plus or minus equal. the first part is the industry part. it was a little smaller, or equal to 10 billion e-e for population consumption. this includes heating and teplokomunenergo. if we talk about the real market conditions, then they were only, well. in the field of gas supply for industry for the population the price was set, er, fixed by the state, the maximum, and it is and will be, i think, until the end of the war until our victory. and it will hold , as for the supply of heat, then i think that the price is fixed. what is there now, it is also will be

the state should hold on to the end of hostilities. that's why we can only talk about market relations in about a third of the entire market. this is the current situation of ukrainians. what does this mean for gas traders, in particular, this situation for traders, in particular, it means that competitive relations are only for a third of the fish, everything else is controlled and supplied by the state, is it an effective owner and an effective manager? well, i think, for example, naftogaz will tell you about a lot of things that, for decades, we had a situation when, for example, we have er, at lower prices for the population in our country. for example, some people close to the authorities er, well , let's say entrepreneurs er had the opportunity. well, let's say it 's very cheap to have gas, but now the price gap is not

comparatively high, can there be such temptations and there are such risks of the corruption component in the case when we completely froze the tariffs, so it’s just for all categories well, unfortunately, we have to state that here too, the answer is always not on time. and that’s why we have always been supporters of many third-party morning relations everywhere because as on i still think that the market is the best mechanism that determines the price of that product. in this case, gas is absolutely the same product as others, and unfortunately, since there are no transparent market relations, it can be said that absolutely everything there is effective. unfortunately, it is not possible. i just want to point out one thing that uh, at the beginning of the opening of the market, naftogaz controlled more than 90% of the supply volumes to the

industry, now its fate. i think it hardly exceeds 10% in a single month, and in fact it is usually less. extraordinary competition, er, where there are market relations, this indicates that there the price is market, it is real and real. and i just wish that after our victory, we would introduce market mechanisms everywhere. and those consumers who can not pay full price for gas er, need that the addressee state should help, as it is done in all countries. well, actually, now we will also have a situation. and how serious is it, a global global calculation when, for example, people who have individual i am talking about the population now people who have individual, for example , heating boilers and people who, for example, live in multi-apartment buildings, they will find themselves in completely different situations, that is, for some, they will have to control

costs, for example, gas standards, and there, relatively speaking , they have already been warned that the temperature will not be very high in the houses, and thank you for that, and for for others, there will be some kind of situation that turns out differently, and there it will not be possible to save gas, and you will have to pay extra. have, for example, 300-400, 500 m², huge houses that are very rich people, they will also have gas at a price that is not available anywhere in the world. i completely agree with you. i fully support your opinion, and as far as i am concerned, the heating of one apartment building is worth much more than the heating of some city palace by a person who can fully pay the price of gas and again we forget that high gas prices are sitting and high taxes, that is to say that they will pay more and more and will be

to find in someone's incomprehensible pocket the price of gas and transportation in the price of gas and the same value added tax which will be paid much more and paid by those people who can pay for it the market price for this gas and not pay 8 hryvnias as i don't have time for it internally, but that's the problem. well, we see the word here, but by the way, you said that it would be possible, for example, to pay subsidies and how they do it in other countries, or whether there is any mechanism of their own, which in conditions of war i would allow justice to be observed here, well, since we understand that many ukrainians simply really cannot pay now this market price, as you say, well, this is reality, and their answer will simply be that people will stop paying in general, we already partly see it . as far as i understand from communal services er, well, this is a problem with several layers of its er

problems, but the first is where you need to start in order to understand in general, what kind of consumption our population needs, and so on and so on installation of meters and we already had several programs for installation of meters, regional gas tariffs that were adopted before the increase. they included the installation of these meters, as they say . heating and public utilities companies, but not private consumers , that is, to actually understand what volume is consumed by private consumers, people, well, it is quite difficult and there is also a problem in this, please tell me i would also like to talk about the prices that

europeans will pay for gas now, because what they will pay will depend on whether they will be on our side or still think about their pockets, their incomes, their expenses, etc. actually, the gas blackmail is now starting, well, the gas blackmail continues, uh, they stopped, uh, about the reduction of gas supplies to france, gazprom announced, meanwhile, bulgaria has started negotiations on the supply of uh, the previously agreed volumes of gas, what would that mean a-uh well, first of all uh, actually, the blackmail started earlier with the memorable story with the turbine uh, with turbines even for the north stream, which is still working. that's how well we remember how uh, the russians, unfortunately , uh, pushed the germans to uh- eh they took the

turbines from repair in canada but they never took them to install them back on the north stream one and transport the relevant options but let's this is a little digress let's get back to the most simple can we operate to the numbers and the numbers say that despite because today is the 31st in august, the first one in the north stream stopped completely and does not transport gas because it has three days of maintenance eh it would seem that the prices should have soared to crazy heights but i am looking online now at the prices and they looked at almost 8% during today it's simple another proof that europe does not give in to the blackmail of the russian federation with their plans to reduce and even stop the supply of gas, the question may also be that despite

the fact that europe still rallied there is no need to underestimate the efforts of the enemy and hit on the pain points of the europeans by splitting them into separate states and working with each of them separately well, let's say there are states that have more storage facilities, they are full . according to the previous plan, they were supposed to be filled by the end of the summer, that is, by today , by 75%, and two days ago, they were already filled by more than 80%, that is, there are no signs that they will not be filled. things, if you take the average value for the last six years, then the 22nd year is ahead of the filling pace of the current average, the average volume

that was in previous years, that is, europe, having understood who they are dealing with, and they are dealing with banal with the energy and not only the blackmailer finally finally started to real er real just replacing these resources, of which we don't really have much anymore, we are just sources of gas, well, first of all, america, yes, yes , you have heard that you share this optimism in many of international experts, if, on the one hand, blackmail seems to work like this, and on the other hand, this is a one-time blackmail from putin, that is, he will be able to this winter. and what about next winter, will he be able to next winter? a year or two later. well , this blackmail this year is

putin’s last blackmail. i completely share everyone’s opinion here. and i am far from sure that the blackmail will succeed, since europe is resisting this blackmail. europe is filling its storage . other regions in that including even china, which has always occupied much more of them. it is now sending volumes to europe , and that's why i am under the condition of warm weather. i hope that europe will pass this heating season without any problems, but we need not to forget about ourselves, what we are doing in order to engage in energy efficiency because it will look quite strange. when the temperature in our apartments is extremely high and at the same time the windows will be open . well, that's what i thought the announcement was . probably a serious promotion regarding insulation and

energy saving, because every additional kw of energy that is simply released air plays into the hands of the enemy . in the winter it will be lower than the one to which we are used to. i understand that these are the words of a windmill that is responsible for naftogaz and it says that there may not be enough gas, but what do i think in our country large-scale industry is practically not working now ah, the level of production fell not so significantly, thank god , and gas workers are working to service networks in emergency, sometimes even regimes. why do we pay

tribute to them? bad, and i think that the good will come, that's why we seem to have forgotten that we were going to the program to provide the country with its own natural gas, it's also curtailed. and we don't need to forget about it and the other side - you can't figure it out, let's not forget about it, god forbid, and i hope what ukrainians will learn by this time to intelligently distribute e-e reserves and e-e forces in russia, meanwhile, because they have a lot of that gas, putin decided to replace the social special operation with a consonant social fixation e-e now provides the social strata of the population with gas, a lot of it and a lot and cheaply, they need to make a lot of well-watered vodka, so it is immediately a normal supply, eh, it is

played out. uh, actually, the president of the association of gas traders is with us. i especially value ukraine. it seems to me that during the war we are trying to say that it is important to remember that we have a ukraine with a market economy. for what we would like, he should cross out some achievements of the past. only because it's not there. you started them, for example, because the gas market is certainly important, even if you started it. i don't know. vladimir lenin, he's just kidding . about the fact that we must respect what lenin came up with , well, did he also now make two and a half turns in his house, you know that? they just don't bury him, he's lying open. finally , take that dead man out. today i'll open him there. hello. and he again like, the ass lies shorter, what is it, well

, they mentioned something again in ukraine on tv, it is constantly turning him over because of that uh, well, they turn him over so that there are no such bedsores, yes, uh, mark savchuk, advisor on the issue of anti-corruption policy, axes and the head of the council are coming public control, i will buy a panoramic car with us, we congratulate you hello, you were talking about gas and you called me, how is it? excuse me, i want to, well, we can talk. not about vasya, for example, about electricity, there is a good opportunity, there is news that there are intentions to create a state monopoly for the sale of all electricity which is produced, in particular, by private manufacturers. what do you think about this, by the way? as an adviser on anti-corruption policy and a member of the supervisory board, it is correct to say that the public council has acquired a supervisory board.

my opinion, by the way, how much will it be, the price of the thing there monopoly eh unfortunately, there is a big risk that the government will want to make its own mini-ross ukrenergo for the supply of eh electricity to europe because now there is a difference between general a-a energy in ukraine, the market energy that is sold in europe is very high and very big a-a the temptation to create some kind of state-owned company a-a that will be engaged in nothing but money -laundering of some offshore company that is connected with someone in power it will be a stupid intermediary who buys cheaply and sells cheaply to some company. and in the west, which will then sell all this electricity to europe at a bargain price. this risk is now discussed, and we will talk with you a

little later. and when it becomes more urgent a-a literally in a few weeks and there in the pre-flooding season in the fall, so far, a little wounded eh, well, okay, we’ll be fine , so if eh, you know, let’s ask the next thing, it wasn’t here, it wasn’t heard enough for a long time and suddenly he appeared again in the news feeds, this is about ihor kolomoisky, who wants to take advantage of what is happening in ukraine and wants to take back privatbank. by the way, you heard him say something about the war, that he condemns what is happening in ukraine i didn’t hear it. to be honest, maybe i missed something. maybe he will say it in the decisive speech when we return privatbank . well, i’ll say thank you to everyone, good privatbank .

how seriously should we take this, this, this new renewal of this litigation around privatbank, or there might also be some temptations here, and in whom? unfortunately, this is a very painful topic . last week , the supreme court returned to the structures of kolomoisky hotel mir, which was owned by privatbank, this is the property of the former shareholders of a, which the bank took away during the procedure of a-a combat when all the assets of the shareholders of bank a-a they are converted and purchased by the state for 1 hryvnia and they must fill in the tudura, which is in the bank , and the mir hotel was one of these assets. the court of one from the day before yesterday, which owns the shares of a private person who challenged

the procedure of buying shares of a bank by the ministry of finance during the nationalization of a-a in order for the bank to capitalize the ministry of finance, well, somehow it was necessary to pour state money this road was naturally filled with budget money, that is, our and your taxes, and they were filled by buying and issuing shares of the bank . the signatures of the shareholders are not standing, which logically should not be standing because at this time the bank already has time for the administration that manages the bank. and this is their argument that they somehow did not give consent and accordingly nationalized the bank illegally of course, it is game and savagery, and during the twilight session, the lawyer kolomoisky did not come. and this offshore company is called three antal, that is, it is directly called neon, and offshore, that is, it turns out that it is

correctly said that the lawyers, this offshore company, did not come to the meeting, and eh, the following court quotation will be on september 20, but on september 5, there will also be a lawsuit against bogolyubova, that is, they have several lawsuits, which in fact do not differ from each other in any way, they all question the fact of the purchase and sale between the state and the issuing bank. and why did this question become more active right now? you know, i know, it’s a very good open question. why, during the war , did vlaze engage in the swindling of state money that was used by an oligarch? er, so this all was submitted to those who watch how the government fights the oligarchs , well, we all understand that you need to watch facts, they are words, and according to the facts, a from the state-owned privatbank, which we spent 155 billion money on logopayers, but it

was actually stolen in another way. you can’t call it the mir hotel and it was given to kolomoisky . the future and so on and literally a week ago i would probably have said that the government will not decide on such a step because it is too big a reputational loss and they simply cannot allow themselves to be in such a state of chaos, but after the peace hotel i have that there is no confidence anymore because all the media in the state are directly controlled by the president's office. well, that is, this whole marathon 24 hours a day means they talk about our great victories and at the same time it is possible to steal peacefully because the mir hotels are actually there except activists and opposition media, no one stupidly said, accordingly, people simply do not know this, you understand, of course, if people knew about it, they would be very strongly against it, but the fact that they know practically nothing about it is because

we don't talk much about it, and it gives the authorities the power to do what they want , so maybe on the second day, let's go for a walk to the court, we'll just walk near kiev, and we'll come to the court, which is located next to the opera house, near the golden gate, and stand there. we'll see what's going on there, i'll be there personally, and you know, you mentioned the marathon, yes, the authorities very often turn to er ukrainians who may have other ideas er from that period of what is happening and say let's not shake the situation or again there won't be any such speeches about don't shake up the situation of the country in the conditions of war. and you here think that someone, someone, someone is somehow trying to make a dolce vita for kolomoisky , see eh. i consider the thesis eh, don't rock the boat a-ah relevant only in the case

that we are talking about revolution there, then there are no such things. but if someone says that he does not like that the oligarch is stealing money from the government, or that the local government is stealing money, that's how we saw in zaporozhye it was published yesterday i will tell you a lot about the fact that they covered up local officials who took money from people who went to ukraine from the occupied territory at the checkpoints, my god, what kind of savagery is this, what kind of savagery is this, you know, it's not about that, you can safely express your civil position during the war which consists in the fact that we want the money in the budget not to be stolen, but spent on the army. well, the money spent on the army means that we will see our cities much faster. my city and what it looks like my home and i really want to see my home, i can’t see it because the ministry of defense spreads its hands to the side and

says that we don’t have tanks, we have great heroes, you know, with uh , insufficient weapons , they couldn’t do that to stop the russian army, which is like expelling yura from the server and near kharkov, but now we need a lot of weapons , a lot of them, in order to drive them out of crimea , donbass and the south, and for this, money needs to be spent. therefore, any person who is not satisfied with this is definitely not rocking the boat, he just wants to see his homes faster like me, uh, about 20 seconds, because there are some more details about yesterday's searches, who do you know, i'm just now going to find out i read the details of this case from him only yesterday, and this once again shows how effective the law-enforcement reform is, which was carried out even last time . well, the creation of a buck of this power is very

important. things for us because we see why not the ministry of internal affairs, not the sbu, we are really waiting for news. thank you, maksymchuk acquired public control, he was with us, and now iryna koval, and the news service, which already for this hour, while we were with andrii on the air, the news service did not sleep, did not sleep and prepared a fresh selection that will be presented to you right now and told by iryna koval iryna you have a word lesya thank you literally for a moment about the most important thing at the moment the 16th in ukraine and time of news on the espresso tv channel welcome to the studio iryna koval