have registrars and there is no one there to register, and that is, the community today who are transferring to the ukrainian church, they cannot officially register themselves, this is a second time. of course, it is necessary at the supreme level to completely withdraw from this church. it is unacceptable for president zelensky to meet under the condition. independence, he was invited there to joint events there and so on, and next to him is the main head of the russian church in the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, so that is, in this way, his government officially the president legitimizes it back, returns him to such active action, therefore, if it were not for such measures, they were not invited, they were not contacted, they were driven to the curb, as they say, then, of course, there would be a different conversation, therefore, maximum distancing from the authorities, maximum checks of their e-e clerics for cooperation with the special services of the russian federation, everyone is detained who expresses anti-ukrainian theses, and there are very many,

especially priests, who allow themselves to make various speeches there. therefore, all this must be punished in the bud and the question will be removed automatically, and therefore of course it will be necessary to recognize this structure as fortune-telling and this is normal, i want to give you an example, you said that it cannot be banned and why in montenegro did they ban the church, they recognized it as hostile and the question was removed once and for all, that is, the montenegrins understood so that for national security for stability in the country so that there is no enmity and so that there is spiritual unity it is necessary to ban the enemy church, they banned the church and everything and remove the question why can't we ban the enemy church of moscow and the question will also be automatically removed by everyone who calls or supports them to be arrested as collaborators arrested as traitors detained and the question will be removed if they want to play martyrs please suitcase moscow train station and bye unless the lady from is it conscientious when ukrainians die they fight, they die for their own, they shed blood, and they promote the russian

church. isn't that a shame? well, we are not ashamed. for example, it's a shame that we still have so many people who assess the situation inadequately what is going on, what is this war and this is exactly what brought us this russian orthodoxy, they came to rest in the russian language, now tomorrow they will come again to invade, they will defend russian orthodoxy, this will continue to infinity until we once and we will leave this question did not ask in thank you very much, mr. mykhailo golovko , the head of the ternopil regional council was with us , we are in touch with you, we say goodbye, i wish you a good day and we will continue our conversation with mr. myroslav and mr. victor. i will now give you the opportunity listen, we will return to the conversation about the pope dugina, the statement about her, and in general, the proposal, we have literally 10 minutes and we will have time to agree, as they say, i first gave the opportunity to listen to what he said about the murdered unknown person, i don't know who killed her, this propaganda gift platon vodogin well, what did the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation serhiy lavrov say, i can't judge what

it was, but who is terrible, i believe that this is a barbaric crime that we have no forgiveness and who organized it now as i understand it, the fsb has already established the facts that are being investigated. they say that he is supposed to visit moscow in the spring, and that is why he allegedly says so. also, such a question is very difficult and it can also affect the statement of the pope of rome, a religious figure , but still, i am now talking more about him, about the

politician, but i will say one thesis . evil, evil, traitors, traitors , apostates, apostates. as it was said, ivanka said that the baptizer said that you are your father, satan . so you are rude there, you are painted. paul wrote that so-and-so has departed from god and does a lot of evil. well, they are not were afraid to call sinners are possessed by sinners, we are possessed by apostates by apostates, why now is the head of the big church starting to look for some compromises, well, christ had no compromises, the one who did not know and you are against us, well, everything seems to be clear and these people clearly position themselves, meaning russia as those people what kind of people are haters of ukraine, haters of god, in general, p myroslava, please, you are right that in christianity, there is a great tradition of calling evil evil, and this is a great first prerequisite for

justice, if evil is not called by name, then the victims of this evil feel it as an injustice perceive it as uh injustice uh where does it come from uh hmm not one pope let's say pope pi - the 12th was also later accused of not calling uh the nazi regime as the culprit of evil from the very beginning, therefore, how do i feel about it, and i said it personally, tell the pope and francesca that for us ukrainians, the

spiritual head of ukrainian catholics is the bishop of rome and not the head of state is the vatican, and it is a typical desire for the vatican keep the channels of communication them keep the channels of mediation it was again characteristic of pope pius on the 12th it was characteristic of e actually all e-e popes and e-e here e-e in the end pope francis spoke again to me on e to the audience, this is exactly what i want to preserve the channels of e-e not mediation with the highest positive such history e-e the vatican is very proud e-e there was mediation during

the caribbean crisis e-e when thanks to the initiatives of the pope of rome it was possible to e-e well put out prevent this conflict from leading to the third world war to the nuclear conflict about that today we have a different nature of the conflict today in the expressed good and evil today ukraine is an undoubted victim of undoubted aggression and the models that were in the caribbean crisis cannot be applied here and that is why ukrainians rightly feel a lack of justice sorry for the tautology, er, their pain is justified, viktor, you also have a

question, well, there are literally 5 minutes left, but you will definitely make it, i wanted you to say more about the pope, about the politician, and they say that he allegedly is going to moscow for a visit in the spring, and that's why now with these statements, in principle, i'm preparing a normal, normal atmosphere for this visit. well , the second question is again about the vatican bank, well , they write. but he writes that certain deposits of the russian elite are also stored there, and this may also be the reason that, well, we have to have to, again, i will say to maintain such neutrality here, conditional neutrality. please look at the actual conversations about russian money in the vatican bank is the same thing about stalin's speculations, how many popes are in the division, the catholic church doesn't work like that, and the church doesn't work like that in general , and when john paul ii died, one perceptive journalist wrote in his obituary. now you

no one in the world asks how many divisions it has. the fact is that the church mobilizes public opinion in a different way. and in general , you understand people in this world when, when, when, when, when, when, the pope met - ivan paul was met by a third of poland in 1979. in the same year, the soviet ambassador wrote in moscow, that our colleagues say that our business is banished, what is in the church is not wealth and not even michelangelo's masterpieces. and this is moral capital, and that is why i am so sorry that this is moral capital, capital is devalued and devalued in our eyes because of what in order to have the opportunity to look into putin's eyes and what the pope will see there, he has already seen the dutch

declaration when he, for the sake of it being written that we are catholics, orthodox brothers, made some concessions regarding and of the greek catholic church and orthodox churches and so on just to hear that we are brothers because he really wants christian unity and for kirill it means nothing kirill he is the minister of one of the ministries of the russian federation at the end of the 16th year he did not mention this haman declaration, therefore the pope is very much mistaken when he hopes to become a mediator on the one hand and on the other hand fails to see that in this war there is no ambiguity here evil is distilled and good is also

distilled, and this distinction of good and evil should tell the church. i thank you very much for joining. thank you viktoria lensky, a religious scholar , a police officer, a doctor of philosophy . dissident human rights defender, i say goodbye to our guests, i wish you a good day and uh, take care of yourself, well, just a few minutes left, i will say that we will meet with you today at 19:15 in the framework of the great ether, we will talk about the situation, which is about everything that happened during the day, but to finish our conversation about religion and politics, this is the holy procession, which, well, just directly contradicts the law on martial law, here, you know, there is no need to breed some uh, many theories, ideas , who why can't you, why not - well, it's just illegal . well, i'm saying. i'm a man, i can't leave the borders of ukraine. i don't want to leave the borders of ukraine, but i can't. if i come to the border somewhere

near lviv, well, from lviv there to poland, they won't let me go . because the law provides that under the conditions of martial law, men of conscription age must be in ukraine. and why then, when it is written that there are peaceful peaceful marches, some gatherings are prohibited there? why are you going to hold them? it means that someone needs it and someone turns a blind eye to it, that is, you can turn a blind eye here. here you can't and i'll say it wrong again well, as for the pope's statements, it's important here, if we 're talking about the christian faith and for faithful people , it's still important to believe in christ, read his words, his commandments, and live according to christ anyone who there are religious positions, who is a japoscope, a priest, a metropolitan. these are just people who serve christ. well, you serve well. we serve well. you can approach christ in some ways, but you may not depart from them, but these are people. today, by the way, they are fighting for our independence at the front, they are just living a fast. whoever took the dream from him will perish, whoever came to us with a sword will perish from the ball, and

one must defend one's land, love one's family , protect one's family, defend one's land, and that's it wartime, this is christianity, and the enemy must live where he lives, so you should not be tempted by the statements of certain religious figures . our sun is christ and people are people they can say today one thing tomorrow another thank you what will happen to me i say goodbye until the evening this was a world view program stay with us and watch express andriy yanitskyi tv channel espresso you are watching economic news under during the war, if you watch us on the internet, please like the link, send it to your friends and family. comment on this issue, let people know the truth. norway will allocate two billion kroner, and this is more than 200 million euros for the purchase of gas for ukraine, said the prime minister of this country,

jonas garstery the head of the government noted that this will help heat schools and hospitals in the winter and ease the difficult humanitarian situation in ukraine, the money will be directed through the european bank for reconstruction and development, as well as the norwegian government called on other countries to help our country during the winter, the day before the head of naftogaz, yury vitrenko, said that international funds are needed to buy another 2 billion cubic meters of gas. the central bank is also winding down the exchange program, which allowed us to exchange our money for zlotys at official rates; recently, the demand for such a service has significantly decreased; displaced persons are already actively exchanging hryvnias with the help of bank of cards issued by ukrainian banks since march 25,

about 80,000 citizens have used the program and exchanged uah 681 million. well, first of all, the war in ukraine, prices are rising wildly on the axis of food products. bila tserkva was no exception, but the situation on local markets is not stabilizing, sellers say that growth is still possible in the future our the team inspected retail outlets to find out the price policy and whether everyone will be able to satisfy themselves and buy enough products, the grocery basket of an average ukrainian has become more expensive by almost 15%, or by more than 44 hryvnias since the beginning of the war, as evidenced by the state statistics data, the price of buckwheat has increased the most during this time. at the same time, vegetables have tripled in price compared to last year, and although the vegetable season is in full swing, the price of freshly harvested products does not

change, this is due to the temporary with the occupied south and problems with logistics and gasoline , the sellers claim vegetables. people are buying, although the prices are biting. cucumbers and tomatoes are not more in demand. deposits are grumbling in the middle. nothing is increasing yet. well, it is not clear what will happen next. well everything is ecologically clean, the laboratory checks everything in us, we need to stock up on onions, tomatoes will also not be cheaper, in general, such seasonal vegetables as cucumbers and tomatoes cost from 25 to 30 uah per kilogram, next are carrots and onions, 35 uah per kilogram, but young potatoes on local markets are worth 20 hryvnias per kilogram, the price of eggs remains at the level of 35 hryvnias, but the price jump will not bypass them. it is planned that there will be an increase in prices by how much. well, i think somewhere around hryvnias will be 45. well, feed is expensive, everything is

rising, gasoline is expensive, so what is planned it is more expensive, instead, the sellers assure that the prices of flour, sugar and cereals will not increase except for buckwheat. its price will go up. currently, it costs from uah 115 per pack until the fall. not since the new year, it is still hanging. as for salt, it is more difficult here, because due to russian aggression, the factory for the production of yanoi artemsil has stopped its work, now there are more imported products on the shelves and counters, mainly from turkey, but there is also domestic sea salt from odesa for 30 hryvnias and another for at least 40 hryvnias per kilogram. there is also pink himalayan salt for at a crazy price, almost a hundred per kilo, buyers complain about the increase, but they buy products, they say that there is no choice, it's because they traveled, they all

know . a big family is waiting we need to feed love gerashchenko oleksandr kuga specially for espresso bila tserkva traditional in the middle we communicate with two experts at once this is an associate expert of the analytical center of the case of ukraine yevhen dubogrets and financial analyst of the icu group mykhailo demkiv congratulations. we will also talk about prices. i hope, but let's start with the news about oschadbank. the cabinet of ministers changed the statute of oschadbank, namely, it canceled 100% of the state guarantees provided for the deposits of individuals in it. at the same time, oschadbank has now been transferred to the deposit guarantee fund, i.e. it is the same

bank as all other banks. one for all in the 22nd year, eh, oschadbank was the only one , or their deposits were guaranteed by the state for the full amount , eh, now all banks have such privileges until the end of martial law and three months after its end, but the economic analytical moment is actually important here banks that are participants in the deposit guarantee system pay a kind of insurance from the deduction of functions every month, which then the fund follows, or in the first two months of summer, oschadbank has already transferred over uah 300 million to the fund, which is usually bad for

financial result in the bank, but it is good for e-e in the principle of fairness and the same rules of the game for everyone mr. yevgeny, will the depositors of oschadbank feel any changes and what are they at risk or maybe nothing is at risk what are your conclusions about paid losses of savings there is no risk of anything now everyone deposits in all banks are 100% guaranteed. and it will be until the end of the martial law for another six months , then months ago, if it is even three months, it will still be. and this is a full guarantee, and the second point is that i hope that the depositors will benefit from this because previously oschadbank largely had no incentive to compete with other banks. he said that we have a 100% guarantee. bring money to us, including because of this, the service at oschadbank was

not very good and of good quality, that is, there was no marketing. marketing was not a specific advantage of oschadbank. now oschadbank has to compete with everyone. i hope that it will invest in simply raising the level of services, improving the quality of service, raising awareness of employees. well, it will be like other banks. that's why i see a huge plus in this for the depositors of such a bank of some kind. well, let's say as a bank of last hope , and there is the international monetary fund as such a fund of last hope for countries in crisis, and oschadbank was such a bank there very it was often explained that precisely for that he must have one hundred percent coverage of all er contributions that this bank

is for crisis times we strongly support the national bank initiated the issue of the transition of oschadbank to the guarantee fund, but due to some political moments , because of this, what is it? some politicians tried to make the transition of oschadbank impossible with these very arguments, so it happened only 7.5 years after these conversations began there is no un in order for the state to have its own banks in order for the state to finance them in any way that it does them, there is no, in the absence of a state guarantee, specifically for the investments of individuals. mykhailo, i am also asking you about savings. i understand that this is not the only state bank in ukraine , why did one state bank have such advantages , and other state banks did not have this way, historically, state banks

were less. the status of oschadbank as such a bank of last hope has always been, and uh, returning to the previous question, it seems to me that the entire banking system is now such a bank of last hope due to a full guarantee, and i would still like the funds that are his account now has more than 8 billion hryvnias. in his past life, a year or two or three ago, the amount of funds was in the region of less than a billion hryvnias . the ministry of finance withdrew funds from there . a significant amount, and this is in the event that one or several banks become not just capable, it is possible, the fund will be ready to

pay out funds in full and very quickly , that is, in fact, the form of guaranteeing deposits has become such a fund, the last hopes of an alternative to the imf and not some individual bank and all banks are on equal terms, that sums up this topic, let's move on to another the verkhovna rada committee on finance, tax and customs policy supported the draft law for which currency exchangers can significantly increase the amount of tax liabilities, the head of the committee, danylo hetmantsiv, said, and i quote out of almost four thousand exchangers in the 21st year of myrn, well, the industry relative to myrn paid as much as 7 million uah in taxes, this despite the fact that according to the bank's calculations, one exchanger earns on average at least 80,000 hryvnia monthly income, well, the desire to replenish the budget is understandable, but then what will happen to the exchange rate if these exchange kiosks are additionally taxed, mr. yevgeny, tell me. maybe you know the mechanics

of the internal workings of these exchange points. unfortunately , i do not know the mechanics. here, an economist can say that this is unlikely to lead to the plan exchange rate to something good because these additional costs exchangers will in some way, as they say , repel and that they will simply make expectations in it. their action is that they will increase the spread , the difference between the payback and the sale, and the exchange rate again will grow, and what's more, the banks will follow suit, because now on this market the exchangers dictate the will and the banks follow the trends set by the exchangers and the banks will simply have an additional opportunity to earn money, so this is an initiative that looks reasonable from the point of view of taxes but if we take the full impact on the economy that the exchange rate is now one of the biggest

problems, then this is probably not a very good thing to do. well, plus, i think that the currency exchange can go into the shadows just now, at least in lviv. i know there is an intersection where dollars, euros, and zlotys are offered just out of hand. i think that the government knows about it, because it is right next to the police station, but it exists and there will be more such points. and what does hetmantsev propose? he proposes that these taxes be paid in advance in in the amount of three minimum salaries, i.e. 19.5 thousand uah, one exchange must pay e tax per month and thus one exchange point must pay at least 234,000 uah e p mikhail, will this approach work? what do you think? well, in my opinion e- is amount uh, the authors of this bill, if you read

uh in general about it there uh, well, accompanying documents, it looks like too much repetition uh, they did not take into account that if, for example, i sell a thousand dollars at the exchange, you, mr. andriy, will buy it, then the bank, then the exchanger will not make $1000. he will earn five. well, maybe $7 of the entire operation, he still needs to recoup in order to pay the employee's salary and some kind of communal security, etc., that is, the real earnings are less. but in absolute terms, of course, according to the results of last year well, the exchangers paid very little hello, and there may be a situation where khmelnyk somewhere, say, in the district center , may simply not absorb the amount of this tax, because it will earn a pittance with a reason with the 20 thousand that will have to be given to the e-e, therefore, with

such it should be connected to this before that, it is a little more liberal, otherwise everything will go into the shadows at least in small towns, and maybe it is just bank lobbies or on banks, for example, no additional taxes of any kind are introduced. do you think that the exchange points located in bank branches will also be subject to an additional tax, and if you read the bill carefully, is there such an explanation, mr. mykhailo, no actually, the fact is that banks pay taxes anyway, their activity is transparent, and for the consumer, it looks less attractive course, if he pays taxes there, he may not be able to give a better exchange rate, he will have more of a difference between buying and selling, and if the exchanger hides some transactions somewhere, he does not take them into account in the reporting, then the amount of taxes due to him is less and the course is more attractive, actually, and because of this, a

situation has arisen when legal exchangers have more turnover through me than through bank cards. yesterday, the ministry of finance auctioned military bonds worth almost uah 4 billion equivalent. the rates did not change compared to the previous auction. as we said, the rates now are not the most, uh, not the best, and the fastest, as they say, it was not a market placement, that is, in fact, hidden financing of the budget at the expense of banks, which bonds are bought. well, accordingly, and banks they take this money from the national bank. in this way, along the chain, we see that the national bank continues to finance the budget, despite the fact that, interestingly, the minister of finance serhiy marchenko said that in august, ukraine received a record monthly amount of foreign financial aid of 4.6 billion dollars. why? should we place

military bonds in a market way if we are already doing so well with external financial assistance, mr. mykhailo, let's continue hmm your conversation well, here it is worth distinguishing between the need for financing and what there were records, the fact that there were records does not mean that it is more than we need, it means that if there is a need for a statement of 5 billion 4.6 this is very good compared to the past well, in the end, but it is simply the need to finance the budget during a terrible war, accordingly, the ministry of finance needs to attract funds ts- within the market to raise the rate and that 's actually what happened at yesterday's auction, they attracted mostly currency days eh there is a slightly different situation there the rate is at