stopada 27-28 every day actually yes at the rallies that people took part in support of yanukovych and they declared somewhat similar sentiments about autonomy and so on and so on then the kharkiv luhansk regional council announced their intentions regarding autonomy and internally on the 28th, in severodonetsk, there was a congress of deputies of all levels, which discussed the issue of a referendum on the federalization of ukraine, of course there were such threats, but at that stage it was still possible to suppress such a word, hmm, by legal methods without repression, and i i think that putin a himself was not yet ready either in his head or from a military point of view, he was not yet ready then, uh, we will tell them how to help

, or directly on the tax, and he was wary because after the orange movement, support for the west was very serious and he understood that the west in detail could also become one or another shield for the beauty of escape in a different form, and at that time russia was afraid of the west, it is difficult for me to say. i think that to a certain extent. so she was afraid then and now, well, this is artem, a separate conversation, let's talk about the analysis of this war and western help, why didn’t help us in 13-14 years, do you think this is also a topic, and a long analysis well, first of all , it was at home at that time that it is not known that both of them were there by the hands and almost restrained them by the hands, but there is still no reason not to take them out in the crimea let's agree let's agree to the return of these territories uh, in the law of things, in

fact, you are now uh, accusing obama of the fact that we surrendered crimea, that's right, except we surrendered let's say yes, it didn't help both of us, moreover, it helped both of us faster putin can't take crimea i simply transfer my troubles and problems to someone i say that obama is not to blame, but he was a participant in this process, not from our side, and the fact that we surrendered crimea, we surrendered it, there were troops there who were ready, at least there would not be an easy handover. we could have fought there, but we it was not given. well, as you can see, now the question of the return of crimea is a time of patience, and unfortunately, the victim can be 2-3 weeks before our interview, when we began to attack the objective territory of crimea, and the situation, i think, is in the heads of our political state the leadership

of military citizens was equipped somewhat like that it makes sense that the return of crimea is not such a hopeless task as you expected. and that ukraine can act in such a way as to strike at crimea and have such courage . the belarusian region or from belarus, we have the full right to attack this object, but the fact that we can consider our territory, i believe, is only a matter of training and all the aircraft of our army, and if we have the necessary weapons, they will come to us, but i state that it is calculated slowly and not in the right amount, but please evaluate the actions of our european allies in principle now, because you are

one of the and it was about a year ago, i looked and you said that ukraine has not yet become a subject of geopolitics she is an object. has something changed now? ukraine is becoming one of the central states of the world today, and there are not many countries, especially among the big political players, who do not in one way or another oppose the russian-ukrainian war europe as a whole, she didn’t know it’s europe and they’ve

already given us blood. in the world and when millions of ukrainians went , they ruled over many countries, when the blue-yellow flag thundered in all the capitals , in almost all the world's leading capitals, and when public opinion there supported ukraine at 80%, then the politicians, how rotten they were, they were forced to orientate themselves. and from the point of view, the situation of decision-making is broken, and great britain and john personally broke it, and everything else is already like that, it ’s not a parliamentary word, not vbbnyak, and then it wouldn’t be any different then i would have already helped, i would have gone to many games of countries. i think that in the future ukraine has already become and will be a serious political

process . the master of the seas is also powerful, the empire is serious, i am a political player well, everything else is the greatness of britain well, isn’t there a connection here with the budapest memorandum they were present during the signing i was not present they were them now the usa they russia and later yes and later perhaps you know such rehabilitation for the fact that they did not save, i would not use in principle and in our community, in particular, such words as dam give it was that it was that now there is a different situation and other

reasons and other circumstances i think that we will stop on our borders, and then all other work must be done by the citizens of russia, not without help, now it will not help, now two forms of free peoples have arrived, where representatives of different peoples inhabiting russia gather and they talk about the independence of the subjects themselves, so the state of the river blows bashkovi and and others and such conversations are already there , russian oppositionists and liberals in particular are also coming, and here i spoke with pavel klimkin and i asked him a question . yes, because there, in fact, there is a discussion of how a split can be called russia. i say they understand where

they are coming from, and he says that here they are not talking about a split, they are talking about changing the government and so on. and so on about the so-called deportation development. we have already been through this in russia. i was led by a group of people who said we should democratize the soviet union. and we told them that the soviet union is the soviet union, so you can't travel because it's an empire. until it's an empire, there's nothing to say about democracy and you'll come. it was the first in august of the first year, just 24 days before the declaration of independence, he talks about the danger of nationalism, about the need to keep the

union moving. under the name of kyiv, independent ukraine and many other republics were proclaimed simply by force, independence and nuclear weapons , and ukraine and belarus and kazakhstan voluntarily, then , not without help, you voluntarily refused as a person who also watched this process and took part in all of this. do you think it was possible to save our good potential and do you personally regret the story? it was not economically feasible for us, but then practice showed that we would have to have 10 kg of heads somehow, because already a dozen

of them would not have been pulled correctly. well, i'm probably not an expert , mom, but maybe it was also uh, extreme factors. well , we are in pervomaisk, mykolaivska the region stood missile army and there used to be more than in russia, europe, why did we give up so easily? well, we took it, we gave it up, you understand. you must understand that at that time the oil of the previous independence was also certain . it seemed to be true. if someone told you there that he would give us lies in advance, almost no one believed in his possibility, not between two brother peoples, and that we are brothers, we are brothers, we are brothers, we are already brothers, we attacked, but everything was not believed maybe because it's just not

to counter this question with disarmament, what do you think led to this and is it possible to draw parallels with nuclear disarmament? well, when we sprayed our migs or sukhoi, if i'm not mistaken, we sold the plane worth millions for scrap metal for a few tens of thousands of dollars , that's an ass in poltava , there were hundreds of planes in the city division, or even hundreds of planes, which we would have now had patrols, amen. to prevent this disarmament or not well, it is obvious that they should have been somehow obvious and that at least it was not so thoughtlessly destroyed well, i have already been, the people's deputies could also rebel against such a decision, not

practically a key, a certain blow to the armed forces of ukraine would have been inflicted by a toad in recent years, especially under the rule of yanukovych i want to remind you that the minister of defense, the head of the sbu, the russians, and from there it already went full er, well, even more then it seemed to many and to a certain extent to me that when our warehouses began to explode, and it is necessary coincidence, in a few years, there were five huge warehouses where ammunition and weapons were stored, and it was already several years ago, it was planned that without destroying the pipeline of our military power, we would return to the time of the declaration of independence, was there an opportunity after that moment for us to go the other way, not in the direction russia and what and what actually

prevented us from leaving russia, and i will tell you that we had a constitutional majority of communists in the verkhovna rada of the first convocation. that is, we should never have declared an independent ukrainian state, what could speed up our movement, early elections, if we immediately after the declaration of independence or at least after the referendum on december 1 announced a new state, that means there must be a new government, a new army. we would then win the elections and we could then to take many steps in that direction, what are you asking me about? could there be a solution, my friend , so this point of view was supported by the leader of the

people's movement, and i will say yes, and i, as the head of the party, democratized the revival of ukraine, as we also had the faction is serious. we started a mass of signatures for the dissolution of the verkhovna rada for early elections. there are many rock deputies. call me a supporter. they almost killed me. they almost killed me in the chest. that's what they said. deputy's mandate, which is quite obvious, but if there were early elections even then, then perhaps our dynamics of a gradual european practical society would be faster , but it became the case that if the black hiv had won talked about it. i will say yes, he was not an outstanding

business owner, let's say so, but he was a great leader of ukraine, and he would have made mistakes, but in total, his mistakes could have been much less than those made by chornovil. i think i knew him personally. i know his character is drawn, he would share power with those. and who could do that? i think that the victory of chornovol and the formation of the new verkhovna rada of ukraine could seriously transfer the momentum to us at that time. the poles left and waved their hands. and we were left in our mire. and by the way, it took us a long thirteen years before the orange revolt to go through all the eyes there in order to finally raise once again the

question of democratization and our political choice, our identity, our ukrainian land. how do you see the victory of ukraine i would like it to be quick. i would like us to reach our borders. i would like ukraine to be rebuilt quickly. i would like the grid to develop by several, especially petrovka, a secret about some i would really like us to restore several key key industries we had space shipbuilding, we need to get investors into working hands, there are intelligent people, there are at least three automobile factories we need in to produce smartphones, computers, and many other

things, we need to restore the plane, airing, i saw ukraine with a comfortable, safe life, you know how they say your words and god is in his ears. may the lord help us, the west could introduce more severe sanctions against russia, but it still does not realize the full seriousness of the threat from its side, this opinion was expressed in an interview with the public by a researcher of the american center for the analysis of european politics, british spectator edward lucas, in his opinion , will have the greatest impact on the future of this war not sledges, but the situation on the battlefield, in particular, the progress of the counteroffensive in the kherson region, olena romovska spoke with edward lukas if ukraine achieves a number of military successes on on the battlefield, it will have a powerful impact on the public opinion of the west, there would be an awareness that this is a war

that can be won and not just endured, mr. lucas. thank you for your time. congratulations on the first channel of public broadcasting. thank you. it is a great honor for me to be here. of sanctions introduced by both the eu and, for example, great britain, the usa, and some other countries, which of these already introduced sanctions are effective in your opinion, if we are talking about sanctions as a tool that could force the president of russia putin to stop the war, i think the most effective are restrictions on the supply of high-tech products to russia, this is what destroys the russian military machine, unfortunately, energy sanctions do not have such an effect, since the prices of energy carriers have increased, and russia sells oil and coal to other countries around the world, and financial sanctions

against oligarchs and of large russian companies had the least effect. because putin does not really listen to their opinion, he is ready to agree to serious economic troubles in exchange for what he considers to be more important geopolitical goals, the process of adopting the latest eu sanctions packages made such an impression that it was difficult for the member countries to reach an agreement regarding them, in view of this, should we expect new sanctions packages from the european union by the end of the year, something similar is currently being discussed, namely visa sanctions and restrictions on issuing tourist visas to russians i support it in every possible way, of course, with exceptions in the case of visas for humanitarian needs and for political refugees, but it infuriates me that russians can go to rest in europe as if nothing had happened, all this is difficult

a burden on countries that have land borders with russia, in particular finland, estonia, and latvia, they accept a huge number of people with visas issued by other countries of the schengen zone. i think all this will be discussed at the level of european foreign ministers, and we are expected to tighten restrictions just on this day when you and i we are recording our conversation. the minister of foreign affairs of the eu member states is discussing the introduction of these restrictions for russians that you mentioned. these are the restrictions that prompted the russians to demand from the authorities stop the war so they can return to their usual comfort. i think there is a lot of discontent inside russia. some russians consider the war a very bad idea, others are simply fed up with the consequences of the war, they are nationalistic people who believe that putin is conducting the war very incompetently and who expect a much tougher position from him and

we must do everything possible to maintain this pressure. we must also realize that the one who comes after putin can be the best, or worse, or would such a step be simply a punishment for the russians as complicit in the war, who would help change something in russia, i think we should really look at our ability to change the situation in russia since gorbachev . were not significant, even when we achieved something that we considered sufficient, it often turned out that this was not enough, the most important thing that we must do now is to help our friends, that is, to help ukraine defend itself by supplying it

more weapons and money, as well as help other front-line states to protect their society and economy from russian pressure, in the end, russia will change as it changes , we may or may not like these changes. but i believe that our ability to manage politics inside russia is quite weak. what is there will pay a greater price for the sanctions introduced against russia than russia itself - this is true. are these some russian narratives in the western media? it is very difficult to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of sanctions sanctions always hurt both parties because if you impose sanctions it means that there is something that you cannot buy or sell sometimes time plays a decisive role you take a hit in the short term to impose a burden on the other side in the long term generally the

effectiveness of sanctions is not the sanctions against cuba were too magical. they were introduced before i was born. sanctions against myanmar, zimbabwe, sudan and other countries. sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. how should i consider the sanctions? solidarity of political will and not to expect that they will bring impressive results in western leaders are now addressing the population of their countries regarding the fact that citizens may feel or already feel problems due to the russian-ukrainian war and the sanctions imposed against russia, for example johnson recently appealed to the british about raising tariffs and emphasized that, according to your observations, putin should be blamed primarily for this. do people in britain understand what is happening and who is to blame for the increase in tariffs

of course, great britain is no longer in the eu. but i think that in all of europe, in great britain and in other countries, people understand that the jump in energy prices is largely connected with putin's war and that if putin does not stop in ukraine , he will have to deal with him elsewhere. and this will be even worse. i believe that there is a broad consensus, but at the same time there is concern about what the final will be, what will be the long-term strategy of relations with russia, all these things that none of the western politicians have really thought about yet, except perhaps politicians from the baltic countries are all frightened by the prospect of a war that will continue with the hands of course not only us, but also primarily ukrainians, that is why the counteroffensive in the kherson region is so important if ukraine achieves a number of military successes on the battlefield - this will have a powerful influence on public opinion in the west , there will be an awareness that this is a war which can be

won and not simply endured, did you mention a long-term strategy for russia, did i understand correctly that in your opinion western leaders do not yet have such a strategy. that is exactly how i do not see someone thought about russia in the long term, we had a strategy in the 90s, for example , and it was extremely favorable to russia, let them say that russia will develop a market economy, there will be democracy and everything will be fine, this clearly did not work , we moved to the second stage, trying to overcome the difficulties of connected with russia to restrain it and compete with it where it was necessary, but it was a short-term and not a long-term strategy , so i think that we need to come up with a policy for russia for 10-20-30 years, but so far i do not see that has anyone thought about this, what could change this, what in your opinion could affect the west, if there were to

think, for example, about what will happen after putin , i'm afraid that the west started getting a master's degree in geopolitics too late, and now ukrainians are paying for this education with the blood of this last week , your column appeared in the times newspaper, in which you called for the exposure of anonymous kleptocrats in great britain, or rather to solve the issue of thousands of properties in great britain belonging to shadow companies, according to you, it could make it easier the burden of high prices and tariffs for the british, please explain what you mean. we have about 90,000 properties owned by shell companies or trusts with unidentified beneficial owners. i believe that we should

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