well, for sure, on the moon, for example, a year ago, we need to take the 15th, because they will solve all the problems that can only be imagined. if we measure ourselves by the fact that this plane must solve the problems now and then be operated until we are 20, well, in the 1940s, abstractly, here, at a glance, the choice is really possible in the 16th, because all the neighbors are around us, that is, just poland , romania, bulgaria, turkey, they chose this particular plane and this plane will definitely live for a very long time because the order er, you have an order for this aircraft is estimated at 1,100 machines by the 31st year, 1,400. this is already a firm contract from the us state department for the export of these aircraft. alexander, of course, i will ask you about the uniqueness of the use of the f-15, are there any counterarguments to the fact that said oleg, because these arguments

about the f16 as the most optimal machine can be heard a lot from different offices. i think that somehow this approach. and said that to solve more simple routine tasks, an f-16 class aircraft is needed. that is exactly what i am saying. for this, i am just saying that i am emphasizing on something else, or in addition to the f-16, it is not possible to stop only at 16, and i also support the words of mr. oleg that today we need either a green light or a request for military-technical assistance to receive an f-15 aircraft for a while and in its current configuration in order to resolve the issue with our under it as soon as possible in us i will not specifically name places with our to the east where they are located

special radio-technical and other means of our most evil primordial enemy, which we need to get rid of, and the best thing that will do it, and sometimes and only the f-15i plane can do it, is today’s plane, which is exactly what i’m talking about. i’m not saying that for the future we will have 15 and in service. i'm talking about the fact that we are currently at the time of this full-scale serious war, in which we essentially have no advantage in the air , we have a partial ability to contain the air, but there is no advantage donghamd super world, they are a self-made idea , then we need an f-15i aircraft in several pieces, as i said, and we need a lot of f-16 armadas, we don’t need the most modern ones, we need all the modifications that will solve many of the issues in viber, i never asked for them, there are no free ones on the market, now we are

talking about the fact that we really don’t have any surpluses, but from the reserves they can transfer, by the way, i supported the f18 plane that was considered and was not removed from the trip, i will add that for our specific conditions , a two-engine plane is in any case more optimal than a single-engine plane, including even you know when i was accused by people who they only look at the surface characteristics, but the f-15 is like excuse me, the f 16th is faster than the two f18 engines, no, the cruising speed the combat speed of the f18th exceeds the speed of the f16th, we need to competently talk about certain characteristics, i have a question for oleg, how many countries have in its air fleet in morgat there are two types of aircraft, conventionally speaking

, f15 f16, there are such countries. well, of course. that is, all countries that actually have 15 and use them exclusively for specific tasks . that is, it is not a so-called soldier plane. that is, all countries, for example, from the same japan, well, in my opinion, this is better, but look at japan and the region, for example, countries that understand that in the event of a war they will face an enemy that significantly outnumbers them in the air and on the ground. but in principle , that is, if take them together in japan in the 15th, and their version of the f16 f2, if i’m not mistaken, the name of this is the licensed version of the 16th year, in fact, it also works in korea together with the f-16 team. if so, then israel operates the f-15 at the same time and f-16, including localized versions, that is, which country in fact, it would have excluded the 15th in its arsenal. and there is no such thing. even saudi arabia, having huge financial opportunities, simultaneously

operates both the f-15 and the europeans. when alexander talks about the fact that it is better to rent the f-15 for a short period of time, we consider to an e-e plane, while to such a car where you all went, but of course we will say so, the question of pilot training arises, is this a serious challenge or is there some standard in terms of time that would allow us to say do we need a certain period of time to master the same f15 or f16th, but you are probably the only one for you, the question is p. oleksandr will then comment on it, that is, it is simply public information that was provided by the pentagon, in general, regarding the terms of pilot training, for example, on 16th aircraft, which can be considered much easier to look at in operation and whether the use of night 16 no, already in the 15th term, the standard training consists of half a year, it includes separate conditions, and the only thing about this is that the pilot already knows how to fly in principle, that is, he has already completed all the necessary training, he is already a cadet

he is full-fledged and he even knows how to use weapons from airplanes. he passes. he studied in the 16th year and uh, there the course is theoretically divided into preparation for a month exclusively of theory. after that , flight practice begins, on average 30 sorties are carried out, that is, 30 days for each of stages, i.e., flight training, air combat , ground e-e, a separate course for the destruction of ground objects, and a separate training program for breaking through air defenses, all this stretches for six months, that is, for you to understand that even if we will train the best pilots in our ukrainian ones who have the most confidence because of real combat experience, we will not be able to squeeze this six-month course, for example, into a month, that is, we are talking about a few months, and if the course will be standard, then even six months for training, alexander wanted to ask you in this vein, that is why we better take

a squadron of 12 fighters, train 16 pilots, and then we mention the technicians and imagine that the technicians who are supposed to serve the targets have such not be 16, but it should be 40, yes. so, the smallest, that means that now we have to remind you of the technicians who have a great command of the english language, know the procedure, and so on, and so on. is it possible to find a way out of this challenge? no, trust me today, young people who speak english, by the way, who were technicians on airplanes, they were afraid of the 737 a320, which stood in line at the beginning of the war, let us go at 16, give the number 15, they number in the hundreds, and in the tens, it's just a matter of organization, you know the joke, what's up? it is distributed that the armed forces all get through the ground forces, sometimes curiosities happen, it’s just that

it will be necessary to approach this issue correctly from an organizational point of view, you don’t see any problems in order to prepare techniques for servicing western aircraft, moreover, i will say that it’s a funny situation. it’s precisely because civil aviation all the technicians are mainly english-speaking because we have operated and people have licenses to the highest levels to conduct scares and so on. that is, it is a difficult form of service maintenance of engines, we also had and still have all these people, these people did not go anywhere. many of them serve in the armed forces, but not in the aviation specialties of the military accounting specialty. aircraft, but what is nice about the combination that you and i are talking about together with you, the 16th was created as an addition to the auxiliary aircraft for the

f-15, they are unified in terms of the engine, they are unified in terms of the weapons control system. well, of course, how the platform they are different, that is, all the equipment of the aircraft is different, it is unique and specific, now it creates a very big headache and a big headache for the air force of the united states of america, they raised the issue of decommissioning the 16th, replacing it with something else easier , and so on. well, for now not about that at the moment, about what i just combined in ukraine. it is here that the f 15 16 combination is the most suitable from a logistical point of view. and from the point of view of training the technical staff, i say that here there is an advantage in the training of pilots, we you have heard different versions, rumors, hints and so on that something was happening, something is happening. by the way, only the issue of flights lies in the political plane, that

we now need to push it, and first of all, i see it on ukrainian territory. olezhe oleksandr mentioned the requirements for lithuania and so on at one time, just a couple of weeks ago, the minister of defense varshkikov said that what we are talking about is the f16, there are problems with airports, but we found a certain way out of what is meant by these statements of the minister of defense. well, really, there are simply well, it seems to me that you in society were formed thanks to the actually successful advertising company saba, such are the aspects and the idea that the gripin can be operated from highways and this is supposedly the only plane of the fourth ukrainian generation that can be operated in such conditions, in fact, if to be honest and frank, the

f-15 and the 16th, in general, any aircraft of the fourth plus generation can be operated from highways , and these exercises are regularly conducted both in nato countries and in any other countries, for example, in singapore or in taiwan? that is, all the countries that operate western fighter jets, they can operate them, relative to the gripin, then it is really quite possible here that it is a little easier eh . a significant difference between the grifen, for example, another western aircraft , for example, even in fuel, because i have fines , the information that green does not fly on standard aviation fuel intended for fighters, but on j1 fuel for civilian aircraft, and even here there were certain problems with gripen compatibility during joint nato operations in one of the african countries. that is, there were such problems , and that is why, again, this is the case if

somehow our airfields are not suitable for nato aviation, and we need them for this. if we need a special aircraft, it seems to me that this is a little different from the correct approach when we bring all the infrastructure up to nato standards. when any aircraft, whether american or european, should be operated on our lithuanians, that is, here i it seems that it is necessary to look for not some specific option, but exclusively to find ways of unification with the entire aircraft fleet of nato countries, in principle, eh question and to alexander and to oleg alexander to alexander, mr. alexander, you know all the bureaucratic processes that are connected with the adoption of this or that decision that our state is going through there, well, regarding difficult issues, in particular, their re-equipment for the same planes, how long according to your estimates, in fact, we will still have to wait until we receive the first western plane on our

airports, if we take a hard approach to this, as at one time i managed to be involved in the process and ensure that a hard and fast decision was made, then from the signing of the relevant documents to the delivery, i will still say that now we need first of all i am still 15 because my 29 are still working and if your support will not be able to work, then on the 15th we will be able to receive today that we have september, well, six months from now, in the middle of spring next year, which means that maybe we should already start ahead of the pilot training processes and for f-16 and in 15, taking into account that on the part of the paid states there is an absolutely loyal attitude towards such a step and even allocated to the finances of oleg

. this is a huge period, of course, and now because we have, well, excuse me. well, it seems to me that we live in one day in three, that is, for us, a period of six months - it is, well, very, very, very far, and well , i wanted to hope that abstractly, tomorrow the usa will report there about what and what is the code we are there pilots were also prepared and so on. and we sat down and we will throw this one into battle tomorrow, but there is simply reality, then if we consider the reality and the reality of the transition period where we need aircraft with greater capabilities for impressing enemy targets, then we have the first plan this is such a symbiosis of the combination of existing platforms and western weapons that we demonstrated just on mig-29. i would like to ask oleg if there is a possibility to expand the range of such opportunities based on the experience

we gained with the use of harm missiles yes in fact, the fact that the air force of ukraine even showed the use of hm harom e-e with agge place 28 harum was able to on the 29th well, it just parted with this card provided, that is, our ukrainian aircraft is used, which received such a unique opportunity and if i am not mistaken, this is the first time at all the integration of precisely american missiles under the wing of any soviet aircraft, if we are not talking about such special research projects, which have remained relatively the same, and in fact , after this aspect, e here opens up well this is just a way for the possible integration of other weapons, and if you look at the fact that the aircraft's weapons actually make up at least 50% of its combat effectiveness, then this is an extremely important aspect. we can also look at the experience of other countries and, for example, in the first

the turn of azerbaijan, i.e., having in service mig-29 and su-25 aircraft with minimal, most likely, modernizations, he was able to integrate, for example , an israeli aydr missile with a flight range of about 100 km, and it, well, in my opinion, quite well, at least. similarly, according to the capabilities of the russian r-77 e-e, and again, the integration was for aircraft that did not pass there, m.m., a global update of the entire on-board radar complex, as well as an interesting aspect of the e-e. azerbaijan also purchased stels cruise missiles from turkey som, which from the review will be applied is also used with mig-29 , that is, in fact, in such a transitional period. the integration of western weapons, but somehow yes,

mr. oleksandr. now i will return to the point where you started the program, when you mentioned that the aircraft is actually an element of the combat system, where finding and receiving information is at the forefront, when it comes to britain says that it is ready to share information for waxes or to provide a single information field for our planes, then i would like you to explain to our viewers how this will help our combat platforms even in the format that oleg said there the soviet platform is a foreign weapon, but the information, the information field is general, that is what gives us an advantage here. let me talk a little about the futuristic ones. and by the way, please remember my development when i said at last year’s exhibition that the main task of this aircraft is to be in

the training radio mode but at the same time have the ability to hit the target, even we, you asked me and what kind of specific radar would it be, and so on? at that time, i evaded the questions so that you would not provoke the russian side, of course i said that it was anti-aircraft defense aircraft, well, in fact, it is so, it really is a flying wing, it can’t like to handle such uh, the project of the turkish kyzyleyev , which was bristled with control surfaces, although the analytics of the sixth generation is not entirely clear , why is it so, my half holds it, and i will ask our directors to find a video about the unmanned ace of one complex, which was presented at the security weapons exhibition, because it is a completely new project that was implemented at one time by oleksandr los , just right. thank you very much, just right. continue. please, yes, how to achieve this very radio silence and how to consider targets, the concept is not new

, according to such a concept, the f-22 should have received little. well, of course, it has a radar on board for search and destruction, then it will already be equipped with the most modern. and i am now a gift, but the main the means of the whole speech just in this mode is some kind of awax plane or long-range radar reconnaissance plane, that is, at a long distance there is an air radar that searches for located targets and transmits information from the whole speech to the platform that we now see on the screen which launches a missile based on predetermined information for such a tree, therefore, the platform itself, which is the carrier of the parquet or the planner of so-called or even ordinary bombs, is for how the emitter of radio waves is invisible, and also because it has signs of

radio reduced radioactivity it can penetrate deeply into the frantic system of radio technical means of anti-aircraft the enemy's defense to strike and pave the way for the operation of already fourth -generation aircraft, four plus generations for howling air superiority, what is absolutely modern to us a concept that is oriented towards the future. but can we talk about the fact that existing platforms , in particular, our mig-29 su-27 with new western weapons, can be integrated into the information field that avax provides us, this is a question for oleg. well, the point is that it is necessary to understand that, for example, in the american system there is simply such a system as link 16, that is, the transmission of information by the government and the regime through even satellites has been carried out, that is, roughly speaking, what the operators see on the avax monitors is also seen by the pilot who is in the cockpit, for example, f16, that is, such a

system. taking into account the fact that our planes did not undergo replacement of on-board radio electronic equipment in the sense of how it should be, that is, when we are talking about a real fourth-plus generation plane with all data transmission systems of which processing and information exchange, then of course there is no such thing but again, it is not a fact that our experts, who were able to integrate independently, even suggested that the usa use the same harm , that is, how is it done in general? well, this is brilliant a solution that is, well, even if you don’t ask . at the level of the 21st year, is there such a possibility? well, 99% would say that of course not, but our experts found it and suggested it, so i don’t want to say that it is impossible in principle, but it is impossible with standard ways as such, that is, perhaps some workarounds will be found in order to put certain information into the plane itself, well, through some adapter to it. i can’t say that here,

you need to hear from alexander. advantages of the russian federation in particular, they are based on reconnaissance capabilities when these four planes take off, and 50 command posts monitor our territory to a depth of 400 km , control the entire airspace and see where our planes are, when they take off, they actually do not have such information support, this transition to help from the nato countries due to the capabilities of avak aircraft with a bomb is extremely useful and possible support for nato aircraft, in particular, but such avaks from a technical point of view. everything is possible, but here i agree with mr. oleg, we must still proceed from real time and money, uh, i think that it is not economically feasible, because we need to essentially

replace the basis of the radio-electronic complex , install an american radar fully integrated weapon control system, why was it possible to do this with the h&m 88 hard, because even from the time of integration in the efe-18, it has an autonomous control system, exactly on-board on the plane, it is not tied to the plane's radar it is its own separate module, control units on board, and therefore it was technically possible to quickly integrate it on any platform with an aim120 missile, you can’t do it either. unfortunately, it is connected to the main radar of the aircraft, that is, so deeply to make changes in the radio-electronic complex, i will give an example. by the way, the f15th f15 exists, you know, in

some modernization standards. installed a more modern, more modern radar and there is a golden eagle in which the plane body remained, the plan we call the aviator and all the radio electronic equipment on the plane was completely replaced, that is, from the point of view of radio electronic equipment, it was a newly released plane with all the capabilities we are talking about now, including link 16, which is exactly what i was focusing on in the islan project, that's why i always said that without the cooperation of the united states of america, we simply have nothing to do with combat and especially civil aviation, because all technology is owed to the usa, no matter who doesn't like it, how should you perceive the receipt of aircraft you could already-29 from slovakia, possibly from poland, this

intermediate stage, how important is it, uh, relatively speaking, for the potential of the armed forces of ukraine, when can we expect it and in particular planes from slovakia and possibly planes from poland, but what are your assessments and forecasts regarding slovakia, the slovak air force has already said goodbye to them, that is, most likely the handover or even expected in the near future, but it has already or has already taken place and of course, no clear reasons have been reported, that is, we are talking about nine mig-29s in the ac version, that is, these planes have, well, much better, let's say it directly , capabilities than those that are in service with the air force, because they have an updated radar and modernization took place in 2000 2000s, secondly, the goals are simply youth in themselves, or were they made in the 90s, and there is a cabin with a meaning in the form of beer multifunctional displays, that is, the car is new there, and the engines are modernized, and also slovakia.

well, it either has or will transfer two sparks well, that is, mig-29 obs, but they have slightly less capabilities, because these are precisely training training planes. but nevertheless, the right is of great importance relative to the polish ones, so here there is no information in the public space, and it is only known that the usa supplies, well , the allies supply a large number of spare parts but it must be understood that the polish midi is older than the slovak one, we have little time left before the completion of the program of ukraine in order to ensure as soon as possible the re- equipment of our air force, what steps should be taken, mr. oleksandr, gather courage and simply sincerely ask for this help, tell us now we need to fight, we need

a kalashnikov 16 assault rifle, please, and we need sniper rifles f15 and oleg, i did not see the recipe, but well, what are your recipes for our leadership, it’s good , absolutely yes, and finally just say that we need these planes, that is, stop the discussion in society and in what a let us serfs a there let's go there. maybe something else. but there are still rafales there, and here are eurofighters, but without that, it’s easy to say officially that we have to go in that direction with all our might. for example, those 15 are in the 16th, or any other, but to say that we and we are going in it and have put maximum effort into it and even then it can be and while we are rushing from side to side today gripes tomorrow and at 15 the day after tomorrow and at 16:00 and what else is fifa 18 then we will never do anything let's get only eh to build in the right direction. thank you for this interesting conversation i will remind our viewers that our interlocutors

were oleksandr oles, ex-head of a state-owned enterprise, antonov, doctor of technical sciences, and now captain neslen, who takes care of the problems of the development of the armed forces, as well as oleg katkov, a military expert and editor-in-chief of defect express. my name is serhii zgoretsky, stay on the espresso channel, we are looking for 17 -year-old elizaveta aloshyna , whose fate has been unknown for almost three months. the girl lived in kroprypnytskyi, but for the duration of distance learning she moved to her grandmother in the city of liman is the kramatorsk district of the donetsk region, the first two months of the war there were more or less calm and elizaveta even regularly joined the online broadcast for training . she was last contacted on april 25, and it was on this day that she told very disturbing news. she said that over their house enemy shells began to fly and she was very scared, and the very next day the connection with the

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