and time can give the communities an opportunity to simply survive , and in terms of services, in terms of services, as if the reform gave communities more rights to provide a greater number of services, how have they changed now in war conditions, what new communities have appeared, what services are provided to the population now well, first of all, we faced a problem on the topic of education , you remember when they started to move , there was an active task of issuing education documents to schoolchildren, this was the first and they managed it now then throughout the summer we we discussed whether the new school year should be launched, how it will be, yes, we understand that it is only online, because we have not physically moved to new buildings, there are no new classes, well, there are none, the

majority, the vast majority they provide online education services. nevertheless, we would have seen the latest numbers, half of luhansk schools are still in relaxation mode , and they started the school year, and that’s 130,000 students, that’s great. i think it’s great the result is the topic of medical services here is both somewhat more complicated and somewhat simpler er more complicated b they don’t have them. they need these medical institutions to temporarily rent buildings and equipment. that’s how they called it, but on the other hand, all these doctors turned out to be competitive on the market, and that’s why they. well, as the specialists tell me, they can simply simply switch to the regime of providing services through private

entrepreneurs, this is also allowed by the legislation, and the national health service can also work with this, social services, here it is money, after all, from their own budget, and here they can to count only on their leftovers, and they are doing it now, we from the yuli program from europe are now trying to develop recommendations for them, specifically for such marginalized communities. yes, it is possible, igor, please tell me, and you, this community, keep some kind of internal record of people, i mean the composition of the communities, where did the women, children, men stay, where did some monitor, of course

, especially on the topic of education - that is not enough be it was held because they didn't know how many schoolchildren they had. they couldn't, they wouldn't have been able to start the educational process normally, so they counted schoolchildren, schoolchildren and er teachers. i already understand everyone er in the regional state administration. i contacted the departments of education, they have detailed information on each community well, we did not put it as a program that simply promotes the activities of these institutions, we will set ourselves the main task there. to list everyone, the communities do it and the administration collects it, but everything is fine here. as for social categories social vulnerable categories this process is only at the beginning because it is very difficult to do and most of those who have moved from these

categories have already turned to social assistance centers in the place of relocation and here is a very big challenge how to harmonize these bases eh this will be very it's a difficult, difficult task. and as for the hospitals, they are here, knowing that their doctors have moved and i remember if they were good doctors and they remember a positive experience of communicating with them, they simply found them themselves, then here it's easier, igor. please tell me, do you see what is happening in all of this and the points of growth, but relatively speaking, if everything goes well, the communities will return to their territorial boundaries, and how will this experience change them? well, what they saw is how others live . communities in other parts of

ukraine, well, let's say that these eight years of decentralization were also a stressful experience for them, they lived in such and such a situation, and this war is simply checking them for stability , he is already receiving data that they saw uh how do other communities live? well, we already do this and we would do it very much like the yuli program from europe. we did a lot of so-called stages of visits for them to get to know each other, but now they, well, even in such conditions, they will simply do it much more deeply. i think they will try to find simply non-standard forms, including the management of new business and social services will simply become the most viable because they

will be able to improve hmm dialogue and constant contact by service detainers thank you very much mr. igor, for taking the time to talk about it on our broadcast, the topic is very narrow, but on the other hand, it is very important for survival at the local level . in the luhansk region, which is temporarily uh, almost all of it is occupied, but the community found a way of self-government and moved to other territories of ukraine, keeping its economic and administrative form, uh, in different situations in different situations. in principle, they crystallize in other territories and survive, this is important to us now. we will show a specific example of a specific community from now on. this is the head of the village of novopskov, the community with

us is vadim gaev , his name is mr. vadim. example of relocation tell us what you have, where you are, where you moved, where you are, and how we, like many people from luhansk oblast, have actually moved to the territory not only of ukraine, but also of many european countries our residents are even in canada and great britain, we don’t have such a large concentration, you know, and like in big cities, for example, i know that the popasnya community is concentrated in the novomoskovsk district and in the city of novomoskovsk, but we still have a much smaller number, we have statistics and we see that most of the residents of our community have been placed, now

we have communication problems, now we will try to restore the connection with a group of people, this is the head of the novopskov settlement community about the experience of e-e relocation, what is relocation - it is a change of place actual location, i.e. change of position, so the community was in luhansk region, the occupiers came there, the community took it and moved, some, i understand, settled in groups, and some simply scattered somewhere, but formally, the community was preserved correctly, vadim, yes, the body of local self-government, as the village council, it works, it fulfills its duties duties, of course, in a smaller amount, because we cannot fulfill some of the powers now, but new challenges have appeared, and we are also trying to solve all these problems. again, this is a very large number

people's appeals and with help. for clarifications, it is necessary to do this because not all people have, you know, that amount of knowledge about receiving social services, administrative services, please, not all people just generally know what services at the community level are provided. what powers do you have? what exactly do you do? administrative services were also provided in the same place, and such services of a social nature were provided, that is , any certificates, any registration actions, that's the same, obtaining passports, that's it, registration of the place of residence, that's how you'll receive certain payments, that's all health. because it was organized in our center for the

provision of administrative services, of course we do not provide these services, but people need to get passports, get certificates, and we are already trying to explain to people exactly where they can get this or that service, already knowing where where is the person located and where should he turn to? the last of the cases was how to get a passport while outside of ukraine, specifically in poland, there was also developed information and it was already covered through the facebook page, people turn to you and ask your citizens how to do it what are the new ones? you have new powers or services under new conditions, well, once again we have to provide humanitarian aid to people, and here we work together with ours and the luhansk regional state administration, and we have a partnership agreement

the memorandum was signed by the north donetsk city council and on e.e. hm for example, in the city of dnipro e.e. those living in the dnipropetrovsk region will be able to get on the left bank in the humanitarian center in the north donetsk city council e.e. by the district administration and already in the city of ivano-frankivsk, it is also possible to receive the same humanitarian aid from the humanitarian center, and further on, we will develop this network together with the region, in common with our partners in other cities and as we can to organize a larger such network of course it will all be in partnership so that in fact in every regional center a person can receive one or another help and how many people do you have in the community, what is the number, what is the

number in our pre-war period, we had 22.5 thousand the population, of course, people also left and came, some were employed, some were studying, but the average number according to our previous calculations, uh, well, these are such conditional calculations, about 2,000 people have already left today, it is guaranteed left the occupied community territory and already more than a thousand people have registered through the form that we highlighted on our facebook page and hmmm we already know exactly who is where, what is the composition of the family, how many children, what are the needs, so i can continue answering your question, what are the services what services do we provide that are so new? that is, we are trying to provide them. well, look, we are now looking for an opportunity to purchase third-party equipment or

computer equipment for children who will receive distance learning. we have no results so far. unfortunately, we are not we stop we are looking for new opportunities, we are looking for new new organizations, international donors who work specifically to provide, we send letters and i really want that every student in our community, who is now forced to receive distance education, that he was provided with computer technology well, it is possible - are your potential donors. those who want to help are just watching our broadcasts and who want to help the novopsk village community to provide children with tablets, please contact us, we will share contacts, chairman vadym gaev, contact us, mr. vadim, what about the services in the occupied territory, where your community was actually located before the occupation, there are no representative offices, no movements of yours, of course

, until the occupation, i do not know of a single case of international organizations working there let's say that those er-e accredited international organizations er-e take place there, well, of course, the occupier needs to show er-e somehow their er-e mm if er-e their positive changes, how do they consider it? they are again trying to break that the system that was well, in fact, which was built during the decentralization reform, the administrative-territorial system is abolished, the ukrainian language is actually banned. let no one hide it under some kind of receipt that you can study it, all textbooks are replaced with russian and services well, i don't know, you said

about the people that 2,000 left, the total was 22,000, and there were 20,000 water left there, well, look at it if the previous one i said it, i, and it is guaranteed that these people left, in fact, the figure is much more it's more of a number and just people don't all want to register to show their place of residence for one reason or another, many have their parents left there many have relatives left there and people fear for their lives for the health of their relatives that's why they don't reveal where they are, why they are. because, as relatives, the parents will have to answer the occupier why your children went to european countries. you know how they treat this european country now, and they sincerely don't understand what

can be done there. because it's for them, you know, someone like that for e-e hm such a frost- m-m-m-m specific, some kind of such study and live under the leadership of their actual mr. vadim, but according to your calculations, as you wake up, how many people remained in your community under occupation, i think still more than half and e- more than half of the people left and again, let's say it's still people. elderly people who have lived in this territory all their lives, and you know it's important. this is also such a factor that we didn't have hostilities and for many people, well, you actually know there garden yard maximum communication with neighbors then

for many, you know, it is possible that inside the feeling nothing has changed, those who do not contact, those who do not go to the elections, and well, you know, there is also a certain layer of people who live like this and they remain on their own in their yards in their gardens and they did not wait there for russian peace it's just that they are apolitical, so they are more latent, let them live in the city, the city, the city, at least there are such people who were waiting for the russian peace, and i'm interested in trying it, but they really turned out to be active, very active, and they took those leadership positions again, criminal proceedings have already been opened against many of them. some of them have already received suspicions. there is a local gauleiter in your place. someone from the local community is there. what is interesting? they do not have such a concept as

local self- government . there is a certain vertical that performs tasks, yes, they exclusively perform tasks that are cut from above, some decisions are not made at the local level, of course, there are no deputies to represent this and that group of people, again, well there are some uh, um, for visibility, well, visibility processes, but still, uh, everything is there now, the atmosphere of uh, fear, the atmosphere, uh, is exceptional, he is the leader , he gives tasks, everyone performs uh, sir, uh, vadim tell me, please, these people who went abroad. do they somehow maintain contact with the community? well, from your community, you say there are. in britain, there are in other countries. how do they interact and are

part of the community? or how well, yes, at the first stages, you know, when the so-called green corridors were closed and it was impossible to leave the community, the occupied community on the territory of ukraine, because hostilities began from the kharkiv region, you know that two buses were shot, people died, and then the people who left and were already in european countries helped a lot, they told our other residents about the route as possible to leave, what are the rules for crossing the border, what should you pay attention to, er, what are the risks, er, you know, excuse me, whose phone number do you need to delete the notebook, it was all helped by the residents who were already in european countries, they told how you can settle, how you can get first aid, what kind

of support, what kind of humanitarian support, what are your opportunities in this or that country, well, again, you know all of us ukrainians, and they told us where it is better, where it is worse, and where your where is it easier? i think it was a great help because finding an opportunity to leave and you know, people were very afraid of crossing several borders for many. can very please, very active residents who, you know, not only receive some kind of money, but who provide assistance to her, they themselves collect, let's say, those funds, and with these funds, they help other residents who found themselves in such difficult conditions, here is the last example - they collected about 2,000 € for an office

for our children who will be and who will leave already left yesterday eh. let it be remote, but for studying at school . well, because they are ukrainians. a group of people and not to wait until something is released from the mountain. and they probably couldn't provide such mutual assistance and leave and relocate, because there everyone is for himself, as they say. and as for leaving the occupied territory of your community, is it possible now and is there anyone who is willing, yes, there are actually three possibilities left, three corridors, one of them is almost impossible for men and it is very, very long, it is because of er, let's say yes, that way from melitopol, zaporizhzhia, it is necessary to make a very large circle through all the purchased territories, but it is possible to leave by car is another, safer, easier, it is

through the pechenegs, through the dam, but it is possible only for women and children, men will not be able to use this green corridor. well, the third corridor is through russia, it is crossing two borders and there are also very big problems there, already now they are very reluctant to release e from the territory of russia to the territory of the baltic countries, artificial queues let five cars through during the day, and this is also a very big burden for people personally, for those people who leave with children, it is very difficult a few, well, three people. they actually spend the night in a car for four days, but this is only this area. there are 30 possible corridors of mobilization of local men.

we already had the first case when a resident of the moscow community was uh, forcibly. and maybe not forcibly. and i don't know uh, he was mobilized. was in the city of luhansk. and although he had a kharkiv registration, he was mobilized and the very next day he was at the very front. now he is in captivity. is in captivity, but i know about such a case. yes, many people fear that the mobilization will begin. different dates are called . the occupier is issuing some leaflets with which you are trying to reassure the residents that there will be no mobilization in the territories that were occupied in february in march of this year it won't be. but i

understand why this is being done. at one fine moment, they will close the borders and announce mobilization. such a question may be rhetorical, but it was also interesting before the start of a full-scale invasion. what to do with such people who, uh, well, some people are known to support the russian peace in the occupied territories, who may deliberately go and fight against ukraine, and then they are taken prisoner. they may even regret and apologize there if they want to survive . it's a very big question, and i don't have an answer to it, because my colleagues who worked in the village council, i held management positions, they went to cooperate with the occupier. i know what this percentage is, and i understand how difficult it will be to implement

the functions of the village council that we performed before the war. that is, i mean the quality of the services that we provided. and what to do with them. i'm sorry, i don't know. i still think that the laws of ukraine should be followed if their activities fall under article 111 then they need to open criminal proceedings and judge them. i want to add in the future, after all, you know about the quality of services. it is very nice when people call, even from abroad , and say how well we had. everything was built correctly and how high-quality we had. another service, because we are trying to catch up with europe, you know, but in some areas europe is a little bit short of even danov, uh, they are waiting there for a month, and here somewhere in british. it was not the case

in russia that our local self-government body works for the people at their work and is essentially a service department, and not an authority that is supposed to bend vertically only there and let it be handed out. well, please complete the relocation initiative, it was your exclusive initiative, was it a state policy and was it possible to cope with this earlier, at least to transfer sick elderly people? well, after all, i interacted together with the head of the military-civilian administration in all my actions, as prescribed in the law i agreed with him on all my actions, but still, i don't, i don't think i will offend anyone when i say it was my personal position that there was no cooperation with the occupier, no negotiations, no negotiations with the occupiers, because there was no one to communicate with there was just a sorry mess and they needed a picture of what they are, you know , the subjects of making decisions, so that as

soon as the building was taken over, on the same day, an order was signed, and we already changed the address of the village council. yes, it was such a decision, it is more political than it was legally possible to fulfill it, but we showed that we are not going to cooperate and are not going to, like other neighboring communities, run with loaves of bread or bow to the feet of those who occupied it, i thank you personally, and i shake your hand for your position and for your courage to take responsibility for your decisions, this is an exclusively ukrainian characteristic, i think so vadym gaev was with us the head of the novopsk settlement community, which communicated with the temporarily occupied luhansk region , successfully continues to provide services to people who are in different places and cities of our

country and others countries. thanks to such people, everything depends on them, and thanks to them, we survived. and you , too, stay with espresso, be sure to support the ukrainian view of the world, and let's we will understand that our self-government depends only on us, we will reform, we will become stronger and more successful, we are looking for seven-year-old dima filonov, who went missing in mariupol, it happened almost six months ago, on march 21, when fierce hostilities were taking place in the city, since that time, nothing is known about the fate of this little boy unfortunately , i also have almost no information about the circumstances and disappearance of dima, there is only one photo of him. however, i am

asking you to look carefully at the face of the boy , he is 7 years old, he looks his age approximately 120-130 cm, he has light eyes and light hair. i really hope for your concern and i ask for help in the search. if you have any information about dimofilonova or you know where he might be now, please immediately inform us on the hotline the child tracing service at 116,000 or write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram. also in mariupol, three-year-old maksym vasichkin went missing in march. the russians shot at his parents in front of this boy. he survived the bombing and shelling and found himself on the occupied territory and is now considered missing, missing in the

car about everything that happened next, my grandmother told me about everything that happened. maxima was behind the wheel. immediately their car was fired upon very strongly, and when i raised my head because i bent my head to the children, i bent my head to the older one, when i raised my head, uh, i saw that the husband