in the countries will change them for the better will change their views will cure them of this imperial spirit from the russian world and hmm some of the countries of europe still remain such dreamers and hope that it is hmm that russia will still receive visas and they will be able to be in the european union, they will be able to stay there, come, what will this have a positive effect on them ? well, it seems to me that the answer here is more or less obvious, just the baltic countries, poland . the russian-speaking population, in contrast to the same french people, whom the russians judge, perhaps, about the intelligentsia who escaped from the bolsheviks in 317. that is, it is completely different russians, eh. in general, all these years when the baltic countries spoke this, they said that

these are your historical traumas, you need to get rid of them already quite recently, the prime minister of finland said that we should have listened more to the spaniards and we constantly emphasize this, we only know estonia and all the baltic countries, poland, eh, that we simply know better and better we understand russia, that's why we need to listen. and western europeans don't just not know it. that's all the answer. thank you yevgen tsibulenko, professor of international law and head of the ukrainian community of estonia in 2017-2019. he spoke with us about what is happening in estonia now after it was decided by the ministers of foreign affairs of the member states of the european union to make it a little more difficult for russians to enter the country. besides, the estonians decided to ban entry to russia in the

coming weeks so that it would not be so easy for them hair in the european union, in particular. in their country, i still read that in a few years they are going to close all russian schools on the territory of estonia, well, we are going our different way. e russians, their re-education and the russian elite, which was inherited from the ukrainian ssr, so, relatively speaking, their children are becoming ukrainianized, but they chose the path because i was under the impression of what our guest actually said about what if they would have allowed er to stay. those medicines who was there would probably be there if they were now at the level of moldova, that means they would not be in nato anywhere, and since they have a small territory and romania is not nearby, they don’t have them. would it have been long ago that russia would have been the first to conquer by another way, and

it is much more difficult and bloodier, we also need to do some certain things conclusions of the word we have high stakes, i.e. if we manage to form a serious, strong political nation where people's own origin will be unimportant in the end, but it is important that everyone will be able to have a bright ukrainian identity, understand what this means, then in general, we can to make a big state a really big state because this small state can become a small one, there is a chance and for this we are fighting to become a big state, some kind of even eastern france , relatively speaking, well, god grant that everything will work out for us god grant that we are now with us hryhoriy plachkov, the head of the state inspection of nuclear regulation of ukraine in 2017-2021, congratulations, mr. grigory, i congratulate you, are you satisfied with the conclusion reached by the representatives of the iaa mission after visiting the zaporizhzhia power plant, well, in my opinion, it is too early to say

about any conclusions, because there is no final report yet on the work of the e-e inspection, but from the first statements of mr. money it is clear that he is impressed by what he saw. and secondly, such a message is enough because he told me that the staff is enough in such a complex psychological state, and with regard to the physical protection of the facility, so that it is also violated yes, but the issue is the proliferation of nuclear weapons, it is more likely not weapons, but nuclear material, it still remains because in one day, all six nuclear power units in six pools of exposure, well, it is impossible, and it is still a good message that remains and it is good his decision, in my opinion, that five more experts still remain at the dance to work yes well, they will stay for several

days literally there that there are two groups that will work, one is currently working for the station and the other will stay permanently and monitor the security situation in zaes as much as he said, that's how much it will be needed. what do you think, actually, if we take such a geopolitical side of this story, it's obvious that putin is in that was going to intimidate, i.e. blackmail. was it the nuclear part of the nuclear blackmail or did he, uh, what did he give results in the end of the interim, i would be very surprised when i saw all these reports from reuters and other international journalists that you are a citizen of the russian federation, an assistant

i think that the visit will also provide an opportunity to lay the groundwork for imposing sanctions on such a powerful large corporation, such as rosatu, not only as for it as a company and as a legal entity. and we also need to impose sanctions on its managers, these assistants and incomprehensible people who are identified to us at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. can we really hope that the zaporizhia nuclear power plant will return, if not under the full control of ukraine, then at least a militarized zone will be created there, well, this is the best result we have for them.

of nuclear power units and the plant complies with all current norms both the international energy agency and our ukrainian legislation should be demilitarized. and where it is occupied, everyone except the russian federation emphasizes this. very close and it was not very pleasant, it was uh, the russians were shelling, they told us what the ukrainians were doing, they told us that the ukrainians were there, hmm, some paratroopers are sailing on a boat, they are going to land how do you think that this nonsense invented by the russians is still considered by the head of mimagaz to be true, will they believe it or why

will they believe it? well, in my opinion, there is a statement of 42 international powerful states regarding the demands of ukraine that has already been formed in ukraine to the russian federation regarding the demilitarization and transfer of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to the jurisdiction of ukraine. i think that mr. money for himself, well, he made his conclusions because he closed his eyes for six months to the chaos that the russian federation is doing not only in zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant if we remember that during the war our ukrainian nuclear power plant chornobyl npp was occupied and inoperable and what the russians did at this plant we already know that it would have been robbed and the staff were also held hostage and they did a lot of damage

to this station was overshadowed and faked, and that's why i think that mr. boru can't close his eyes to that situation, and recently, twice already, once the station completely went to zero and there was a tripping of diesel generators somewhere there, there were two there yesterday the fifth power unit was stopped by emergency protection , yes, it was disconnected from external consumption, the second power units also started diesel generators, so the situation is reminiscent of power plants chained to the whole world for the first time, and therefore i think that the international agency of western energy will draw its conclusions . to stay at the gas station will be representatives of those countries that are more favorable to russia because we saw their composition and there were partly those that are more close to russia

partly those that we can call them more objective, which representatives the russians will eventually agree on. it is very difficult for me to answer this question because, in my opinion, well, i really do not have information on which of the inspectors of the megatel p will leave the money in these groups. currently , the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant remains, who will be included in the second group? unfortunately, i cannot comment on this for you, because i have this information at the moment. in conclusion, in your opinion, it has been switched to the russian network, eh, well, in the near future, what can we hope for that it can be stopped or that it will work and give electricity to the

ukrainian power grid, it is already difficult for the russians , that is, to switch over the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, in the information field there is information about the transformer catching fire at the dzhankoy substation and tired supports in the kherson and mykolaiv regions that are needed for the reconnection of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant. i believe in our armed forces of ukraine and the special services that they they will not allow this for this connection, so they go. i am sure that they understand what needs to be done in order for this not to happen, and about electricity of the world and a platform for its propaganda because its journalists were not allowed to

er it will be very difficult, but we have to prepare for this as well. the probability of this nuclear catastrophe is still high. is it worth launching potassium iodide to the people who live around? well, in general, to the people who live in ukraine. watch this here is potassium iodine, this is the last one, when there is already a sufficiently powerful , powerful, not according to the design, according to the design accident at the nuclear power plant, i still believe that it will not come to that, but with each disconnected line with each emergency protection and shutdown of nuclear

power units, we are approaching this situation because, well, in the history of mankind, even without the military, there were enough three such powerful events in nuclear energy, this and the accident at the american plant got an alleyland, and ukraine has the chernobyl nuclear power plant, and we know this tragedy in 1986, and also and the events of 2011 at the japanese fukushima station, but there were still such natural disasters, well, in our country, a row of new stations remains occupied by the military with heavy equipment and ammunition, so the scenario can unfold in a very, very difficult way, and in very difficult directions, and the workers are in a mess. they somehow report to the leadership of a country called russia , somehow they warn them. well, these are still people

who understand what a nuclear power plant is, after all, we all know that the russians have no sense, yes, but i still, uh, i have such a hope somewhere deep down that the russians will have some instinct of self-preservation, because well, then guess at the corner of the wind where the radioactive clouds will drift, it will be the russian federation or the water area of ​​the black sea or other countries there, for example, as it was during the chernobyl accident, this is belarus, so in my opinion , the instinct of preservation itself should work in these people, because exposing the whole world to a nuclear disaster is completely absurd we will also hope for their instincts of self-preservation, first of all, but we see that sometimes

they have some receptors turned off. hryhoriy platskyi, the head of the state inspection of nuclear regulation of ukraine, was with us in 2017-2021 he told us about what he thinks about the visit, the representatives of the mission have a lot and about their first conclusions, now let's join our conversation oleksandr oleg, economist economic forecasts that the dollar will cost more in the government. tell us what to do with hryvnias in the end, if those ukrainians have enough hryvnias to exchange them for dollars there, or should they still be exchanged? we are talking to you about the macroeconomic forecast prepared by the ministry of economy in order for even this

provision to form a draft budget for the next year, well, that is, the logic is as follows: a forecast is made on the basis of this forecast, a budget is formed, which must be submitted to the verkhovna rada by september 15 for the beginning of the budget process, i.e. this whole mechanism, it necessarily assumes the presence of a macroeconomic forecast that the ministry of economy itself made a forecast - this is such a thing that can cope with coming true that is, in this situation, the most probable version of the development of events is taken and certain processes are drawn on it. by the way, this forecast also includes inflation at the level of 30%. well, that is, there are some things that are the most likely and which are included in the draft budget based on the situations in which you and i live in the draft budget.

i apologize for the macroeconomic forecast that will form the basis of the budget. next year, well, look at the macroeconomic forecast that was prepared on the 22nd year, the exchange rate was 29.2, well, no one expected that on february 24, the hot stage of the war with the russian federation would begin, well, that is, look how it has changed significantly, and today we calmly react to the exchange rate of 40 uah per dollar, based on the fact that every month ukraine has a deficit of the state budget at the level of 5 billion dollars plus or minus, it is necessary to understand that the total volume of printed money that the national bank

originally printed from february 24, at the beginning of the war this is already somewhere in the order of uah 240 billion, all this it definitely falls on the e-e cash on the circulation and we see with you that this is one of the drivers of price growth and the drivers of inflation as a result we see that we actually have a devaluation of the national monetary unit, that is, all these are signs of that economic the state in which you and i are living now we are living with you and we are living now in the period of war between us and you at the moment uh, uh, 34 uh, uh, percentages of the labor market have disappeared, well, that is, count 5 million jobs at the moment uh, in ukraine, have disappeared because of the hostilities between us and you at the moment lost somewhere in the order of 35% of the gross domestic product, so i would say that those forecasts are still

not bad enough to come economic situations ukraine she is still well done and our people are well done and we are somehow still holding on, and without a doubt thanks to our partners ukraine is still more or less building makes ends meet and fulfills the assumed social obligations, because in reality a very large share of expenses from the state budget is the salaries of state employees - these are social benefits - these are a lot of things without which today ukraine cannot exist maybe well, we understand very well with you , the heating season is starting and it is probably very big. we are a very powerful item of the expenditure part of the budget will be its subsidies. so all these things will definitely drag on the actual expenses , and that's why i once again say 50 hryvnias for the dollar is not for me, that’s how much we use in numbers. well, you and i have changed from 40. the truth is, how do you set yourself up?

that is, this year, next year, it will be 50 hryvnias. to be honest, i don’t know. i would even like to invest in hryvnia deposits, because everything is absolutely the forecast is not bad, well, by and large, it is much less than inflation, but at least it is, well , a bigger and better option than just hiding money in a three-liter jar somewhere, i don’t know , under the sofa, so, again, it is difficult to predict something but what we are actually talking about is that we hope that the united states will pass a law recognizing russia as a sponsor of terrorism. even ordinary civil courts, but to demand and

win compensation, for example, for the destruction of a person’s house or the death of a family member. and you can immediately file a lawsuit against the russian state through, for example, an american court and win compensation from the frozen assets of russia and the federation, and i will remind them that i was arrested for approximately 300 billion dollars here and here we have the first case, they did not set up an anti-corruption court and finally appointed an anti-corruption prosecutor, and it has not been two or how many or more years and we already have the first case from the anti-corruption court by the way i already asked who it is for yura, why exactly the anti- cord court is about the return of the russian oligarchs who own property in ukraine, he said well, which pecherskyi court will deal with this well, in principle , i will not continue part of the money was taken from the russian oligarch vladimir yevtushenkov under

sanctions, who has a lot of real estate , including in ukraine, for example . us in march of this year, when the war just started, we were waiting for the parliament to pass a decision on the nationalization of 14,000 enterprises with shares in russian business, and after that there was a statement by president zelensky that we already had 28 billion hryvnias returned to the budget, then there is a recent request yaroslav yurchyshyn, a deputy at which the state treasury said that so far nothing has happened, i am the treasury and we have information from the ministry of internal affairs about what was arrested. well, about 100 million dollars, that is, 10 almost fewer times than the president said. what is this

all leading to? here is the reality, which is, in reality, these assets. we understand that there was a lot of russian business in ukraine before the war. there was a lot of russian money. it can be used in some way to really... in this war to help the ukrainian economy and how and why this has not happened yet, well, watch how i will try to explain more or less the situation of the 28 billion that we were talking about, these are the assets that were confiscated from two russian banks, or rather from ukrainian banks we are talking about russian capital about e-e sberbank of russia and we are talking about invest, there were quite large packages of domestic state loan bonds, which could actually be transferred very easily to be repaid, why

did the treasury not physically receive it ? the state budget, that is, it was something that could be done quickly enough, there were liquid e-e funds, liquid assets. and actually this issue could be resolved. it is transferred to arma , that is, everything that today, to a different extent, goes according to according to this law, it is transferred to the agency for the management of e-e and the search for e-e assets, and arma is already carrying out the implementation process and through the implementation of the return of funds to the state budget, but it is not for me to tell you how actively the investor goes to the country in which military operations are carried out. er, to say that this process will be carried out very quickly and very easily in ukraine is unlikely

and to wait for tomorrow there will not be a huge queue , a huge queue of investors who will start laying out their money in order to buy ukrainian assets rather, let's say the assets in ukraine of russian oligarchs or russian businesses. well, i wouldn't be in a hurry with such statements, all the more so you need to understand one more point. those enterprises that are formally owned by some russian business there continue to work in ukraine in them . wages continue to be paid . ukrainian managers work there. people from those enterprises were drafted and joined the armed forces of ukraine. they are fighting today, that is, it is necessary to clearly distinguish between property and physical business.

a physical business is a ukrainian business that lives according to ukrainian laws and pays ukrainian taxes, from which ukrainian citizens are actually supported, er, the fate of russians in this business. yes, it can be confiscated, but physically the business continues to work like this amount, let's say that package of shares or another something can be transferred to arma for further implementation can be transferred to state property or through the state property fund for further privatization, but this is a rather complicated and long business process if it is the business working? it should continue to work. because today it pays taxes and creates a revenue part of the state budget. well, you also have to be as careful as possible so that because of those processes, you don't throw people on the street. that is, we understand that these are ukrainians. ukrainians work there and receive wages , that is, it is simply important that they are

now under the control of the state, so that it does not say that money is not taken out of ukraine from the e-e oblast of russia, the beneficiary does not pay a single penny, so what in the 14th year, this was no longer the case, sometimes there were situations that, i understand, are now being investigated by the sbu, but as far as i understand, after the introduction of limited sanctions in russia, no one gave anything to the beneficiaries, mr. oleg. explain to us as an economist how we should perceive the news about that russia wants to replenish its reserves by 70 billion dollars with yuan and other friendly currencies, well, look, well, we talked about the frozen foreign exchange reserves there, 320 billion dollars , on average. and what, what, as of today it could theoretically replenish the foreign exchange

reserves of the central bank of russia, there is an extremely high danger for them that they will fall into further restrictions, so in order to prevent this from happening, they are now looking for alternative investments, let's say, alternative currencies that can be held. foreign currency reserves of the central bank of the russian federation, one of them is one of the options - it is the yuan within the framework of trade operations between the russian federation and china. by the way, one of the currencies that today at the moment, they are trying to bring the turkish lira within the limits of the contacts that exist today between the businesses of turkey and the russian federation through the system of mutual settlements, so this is actually a search for possible currencies that are imitated by those countries

that formally or did not join the sanctions or not complying with them in full, this is a way of circumventing those sanctions restrictions that are currently introduced by the civilized world against the russian federation, although here it is necessary to clearly understand that all energy markets work with the contract you on today's moment is nowhere in the analytical market, in the market where gas, oil, any other energy resources are sold there, you will not conduct any transaction there in yuan or there . currencies are called reserve currencies and the mass of e-e operations on the main commodity markets, therefore even this search for alternative currencies is unlikely to seriously help the russian federation, and especially if you

take into account, for example, what from europe in better times the russian federation sold e-e gas for a total volume of 170 billion m³ of gas per year. hmm, it trades with china somewhere at the level of 16 billion cubic meters of gas, well, that is, 10 times less. to sell gas for yuan, then you will not physically put them there, you will not haul that gas in buckets. it is true that there is still a need to build a new branch of the gas pipeline. they are going to do it . economist oleg penzyn also explained to us about the current ukrainian economy er, all kinds of details in russian. thank you for spending these er few hours together with us, andriy sergiychuk and me, lesiv vakulyuk. well, now let's thank angelica sezonnka, because she will tell you about the latest news