we have problems with communication, now we will try to reconnect with vadim gaev, this is the head of the novopskov settlement community about the experience of relocation. what is relocation - it is a change of the actual location, that is, a change of position, the community was in the luhansk region, the occupiers came there, the community was taken and someone moved as i understand it, the settlement was delineated in groups, and someone is simply somewhere russian, but formally the community has been preserved correctly . part of the powers we cannot fulfill now, but new challenges have appeared and we are also trying to solve all these problems this is again a very large number of appeals from people and with help for clarifications, it is necessary to do, because not all people

have, you know, the amount of knowledge about receiving or receiving social services, administrative services, please, not all people just generally know what services are provided at the community level. what powers do you have, what exactly do you do? how is the service for people well, let's do it in the classic form in which they provided, for example, an administrative service, of course we no longer provide it through our center for the provision of social services, or the center for the provision of administrative services. also, in the same place, services of a social nature were also provided, that is, any certificates, any registration actions are the same, obtaining passports, e.e., registering a place of residence, e.e., you will receive one or another payment, this is all health, because it was organized in our center for the provision of administrative services, of course these we do not provide services, but people need to

get passports, get certificates, and we are already trying to explain to people exactly where they can get this or that service, already knowing where a person is and where they need to go. last of of cases it was how to get a passport while outside of ukraine, namely in poland, too, there was information developed and already covered through the facebook page, people turn to you and ask your citizens how to do it, and what new ones did you have authorizations or services under the new terms well, once again, we have to provide humanitarian aid to people, and here we work together with our and the luhansk regional state administration, and we have a partnership agreement, a memorandum signed by the north donetsk city council , and on the e-e hm, for example, in the city of dnipro e-e

, living from dnipropetrovsk oblasts will be able to get on the left bank in the humanitarian center in the north donetsk city council, uh, uh, these grocery sets are actually available too. to the humanitarian center, the same humanitarian aid will also be further developed by us on e-e. we will develop this network together with the region, jointly with our partners in other cities, and how we can organize a larger such network. of course, it will all be in partnership e-e so that in fact in every regional center a person could receive one or another assistance. and how many people do you have in the community? how many people did you have? in the pre-war period, we had a

population of 22.5 thousand. training, but the average number is the same according to our previous calculations. well, these are conditional estimates. about 2,000 people have already left the occupied territory today, and more than a thousand people have already registered through the form that we have covered . through the facebook page and um, we already know exactly who is where, what is the composition of the family, how many children, what are the needs, so i can continue answering your questions, what services, what services do we provide, such new ones, that is, we we are trying to provide them, well, look, we are now looking for an opportunity to purchase e-e tablets or computer equipment for children who will receive training in a distance form. we have

no results so far, unfortunately, but we are not stopping, we are looking for new opportunities, we are looking for new new organizations, international dollars who work precisely to provide, we send letters, and i really want that every e-e student in our community who is now forced to receive distance education so that he is provided with e-e computer equipment. maybe your potential donors. those who want to help are just watching our broadcasts and who want to help the novopskov settlement community to provide children with tablets, please contact us, we will share the contacts of the head vadim gayev with us at the contact of vadim, what about the services in the occupied territory where in fact, your community was located there before the occupation, there are no representations there at all, no movements of your uh, well, of course , until uh, the occupation. i don't know of a single case

of international organizations working there. let's say that er, accredited international organizations er, certain processes are taking place there, of course, the occupier needs to show er somehow their was, well, in fact, which was built during the decentralization reform, the administrative-territorial system is being abolished, the ukrainian language is actually prohibited. for russian and services well, i don't know, you said

about the people that 2,000 left, the total was 22,000, and about 20,000 water remained there, well, look at it if the previous one i said it, i, and it is guaranteed that these people left are actually more, the number is much more number and simply people do not all want to register to show their place of stay for one reason or another many have their parents left there many have relatives left there and people fear for their lives for the health of their relatives and that's why e-e person they don't cover where they are, why they are there relatives and parents will have to answer to the occupier. and why did your children go to european countries ? you know how they treat this european country now, and they sincerely do not understand what can be done there, because it is for them some kind of, you know, so-and-so,

so-so-mythical something like that when the children all study there and live under their actual leadership, they tell the ukrainians that there are some gadyu in theirs, they don’t cover it, mr. vadim, but according to your calculations, as you wake up, how many people are left in your community under occupation, i think after all, more than half and more than half of the people left and again, let's say it's still people. elderly people who have lived in this territory all their lives. and for many people, you know, there is actually a yard, a garden, maximum communication with the neighbors. well, for many, you know, maybe inside the feeling, nothing has

changed, who do not contact, who do not go to the elections, and, you know, there is also a certain layer of people who live like that and they stay on their own in their yards in their gardens, and they were n't waiting for the russian peace there, they just were. well, the apolitical ones are more latent, let them live for themselves, the garden, the garden , there are such people who were waiting for the russian peace, and i'm interested to try it, but they really turned out to be active, very active and they took those positions of leadership, uh, again, criminal proceedings have already been opened against many of them. some of them have already received suspicions. the concept of local self-government in them is exclusively administrations, that is, a certain vertical that

performs tasks, yes, they exclusively perform tasks that are cut from above, some decisions are not made at the local level, of course, there are no deputies. there are none to represent some group of people, again , there are some there uh, for visibility, well , visibility, processes, but still, uh, everything is there now, the atmosphere of uh, fear, the atmosphere, uh, is exceptional, he is the leader, he gives tasks, everyone performs uh, sir , uh, vadim, please tell me these are the people who left abroad they somehow keep in touch with the community uh, well, from your community, you say there are in britain, there are in other countries, how do they interact and uh, are they part of the community, do they receive any services from you? well, yes, in the first stages

you know when the so-called green corridors were closed and it was impossible to leave the community, the occupied community on the territory of ukraine, because hostilities began from the kharkiv region, you know that two buses were shot, people died, and then there was a lot of help from those people who left and were already in european countries, they told our other residents about the route, how you can leave, what are the rules for crossing the border, what should you pay attention to, what do you know, there are risks , excuse me, whose phone number do you need to delete from the notebook, that's all it was the residents who were already in european countries who helped, they told how you can settle, how you can get first aid, some kind of support, some humanitarian support, uh, what are your opportunities in this

or that country, well, again, you know all of us the ukrainians also told me where it was better, where it was worse, and where yours was, where it was easier. i think it was a great help because they found the opportunity to leave. and you know , rich people were afraid of crossing several borders for many . including abroad. that's why people have helped a lot, they can also very please very active residents who not only, you know , receive some kind of money there. to other residents who ended up in difficult conditions like this, here's the last example - they collected about 2,000 € for an office for our children who will go who left already yesterday eh.

yes, it's remote, but for studying at school. well, because they are ukrainians, you said correctly. i have an idea of ​​what local self-government is like, how to decide it yourself in a group of people , and not wait for something to be released from the mountain. and they probably couldn't provide such mutual assistance and leave and relocate because there everyone is for himself, as they say, a regarding departure now from the occupied territory of your community, is it possible now and is there anyone who wants it, yes, there are actually three possibilities left, three corridors, one of them is almost impossible for men and it is very, very long, it is because of er, let’s say that way from melitopol to zaporozhye it is necessary to make a very large circle around all the purchased territories, but you can leave by car another, much easier, it is through the pechenegs, through the dam, but it is

possible only for women and children, men will not be able to use this green corridor well, the third corridor is through e-e russia, it is crossing two borders and there are also very big problems there, even now they are very reluctant to release e from the territory of russia to the territory of the baltic countries , artificial queues let five cars through during the day, and this is also very a big burden for people personally, for those people who leave with children , it is very difficult, it is a few people, three people, they actually spend the night in the car for four days, but that is all. there are three of these possible corridors left. what do you know about the e-mobilization of local men?

there was already the first case when a resident of the moscow community was er forced. and maybe not forcibly. and i don't know er mobilized. he was in the city of luhansk. and although he had a kharkiv registration, he was mobilized and the very next day he was at the very front now he is in captivity, the ukrainian military forces took this er these er figures in captivity and he is now in captivity. and i know about such a case. yes, many people fear that the mobilization will begin, different dates are called the occupier is issuing some leaflets with which you are trying to reassure the residents that there will be no mobilization in the territory that was occupied in

february in march of this year. it was also interesting before the beginning of the full-scale invasion, what to do with such people who, uh, well, for some reason, it is known that they support the russian peace in the occupied territories, who may be knowingly going to fight against ukraine, and then their they may even regret and apologize there if they want to survive, and what should we do with them , will we be able to somehow continue to sympathize with them? in fact, this is a very big question for me, and i have no answer to it, because my colleagues who worked in the village council held managerial positions, they went to cooperate with the occupier . i know what percentage this is, and i understand how difficult it will be to actually perform the functions of the village council that we performed before the war. that is, i

mean the quality of services that we provided. and what with i'm sorry, i don't know, i think it's still necessary to comply with the laws of ukraine, if their activities fall under article 111, then they need to open criminal proceedings and judge them. even from abroad and they say that as far as we had everything was built correctly and how high-quality we had this or that service, because we try to be equal to europe, you know, but europe in some directions is a little bit short of even danov's they are waiting there for a month, and here somewhere in british. they think how well all these services are organized in the novopskov village council, and finally we have arrived, unlike in russia, where our local self- government body works for people at their work and

has a service department in fact, it is a service and not a power, which should only bend vertically there and let it be distributed to the nuts, please complete the relocation initiative, was it solely your initiative or was it state policy and was it possible to deal with it somehow earlier to transfer at least sick and elderly people well, after all, i interacted together with the head of the military-civilian administration in all my actions, as written in the law, i agreed with him, but still, i do not, i think i i won't offend anyone when i say this was my personal position that there was no cooperation with the occupiers, no negotiations , no negotiations with the occupiers because there was no one there. there was just a riot . - um, everything was as it was the occupied building was signed on the same day,

the order was signed, and we already changed the address of the village council. yes, it was such a decision, it was more political than legally possible to implement it, but we showed that we are not going to cooperate and we are not going to other neighboring communities run with loaves of bread or bow to the feet of those who occupied it. i thank you personally, and i shake your hand for your position and for your courage to take responsibility for your decisions. this characteristic is exclusively ukrainian. i think so vadim gaev, because with us is the head of the novopsk settlement community, which came from the temporarily occupied luhansk region, successfully continues to provide services to people who are in different places and cities of our country and other countries. thanks to such people, everything depends on them and

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talk about what new combat aircraft we need air force, what does the process of rearming our armed forces look like with western -made multifunctional fighters and what challenges and opportunities this long and expensive process is connected, we will talk about all this with our professional guests . my name is serhii zgorets, i am the director of the information consulting company defense express. my interlocutors today are oleg kadkov, a military expert and editor-in-chief of defect express. olezhe wishes you a good day. thank you for the invitation, as well as oleksandr los, ex-head of a state-owned enterprise, antonov, doctor of technical sciences, and now a captain of the armed forces, who takes care of promising directions of ukrainian development mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you. i congratulate you, mr. serhiy , and i will start with a question for you, mr. oleksandr. the ukrainian air force is now actively

deterring the enemy. we are proud of the combat work of our pilots, but they are facing an enemy that has more modern planes and longer-range missiles, so i downloaded it first from you. to hear a general assessment of what exactly we are fighting on now and why we need to replace our aircraft fleet, we are fighting with a ratio of platforms, it is su-27 flender mig-29, sometimes 625 aviation of the ground forces or used to be called urban aviation or is it now air force helicopters no 24.8 russians also fight derivatives of 127 130s 135s the same could 29th somewhere modification we were on the next modification no 29 which is also called mig 35 but you are right in that if the metal

aerodynamics remained from the 70s, then the electronic equipment unfortunately for our aircraft, it remained mainly at the level at which the aircraft we received at the end of the existence of the soviet union with some modifications already modern navigation equipment, but it does not bring radical changes to this day, to this day, the war is essentially a war , battle management, not aircraft management, let's distinguish between two things, vehicle management, which the aircraft is also a vehicle, the transportation of weapons and battle management, i.e. , network systems of central control, a combination of various e-e sensors with awax aircraft or the source as they used to be called in our country and in russia they are called in other words, we have already moved on from the concept of actual combat aircraft units for the combat control system, which aircraft is only one of the elements, this is all combined

with radio technical means, which are also much more mobile in russia and today are the envy of even our western colleagues and friends. that is why we need to talk so much about a separate aircraft and about integration battle management system together with our western partners, because ukraine alone is large in terms of territory, but which opposes an armada with a fairly developed scientific and technical base with all the scientific and technical potential that was popular during the times of the soviet union, everything we could and borrowed from the usd of our then western opponents. and now for ukraine, friends, but also what they have already been able to develop for the russians, what they have been able to develop in the last 10 years, and they have turned essentially the very electronic component and weapons you said correctly, their long-range missiles almost came close to the parameters that the air force of the united states of america has today and is currently recognized

. essentially comparable to the f-15i in terms of the radar complex and with almost the same long-range missiles, that is, today, when we are talking purely about the capabilities, the capabilities of individual elements of the air forces of the space military, as they are called, the combat power of the space forces of the russian federation are comparable in many parameters to the air by the forces of the united states of america . exactly, we have to earn a bet for the time being on the aircraft as an element of such a system, and sir, it is interesting what public position the ministry of defense takes today when it comes to replacing existing aircraft with western-made aircraft, well, what about

replacing aircraft and generally deciding the aircraft fleet for new models was it has been known for a long time. that is , its existence exists according to the so-called aerial vision of the air force of ukraine, which was adopted a few years ago and it foresees that we should have already started the transition to new western fighter jets are all due to the fact that since 1991 , the air force of ukraine has not received any combat aircraft in principle. that is, we have not replaced the mig-29 su-27 and su-25 and su-24 that are in service with the air force and it is necessary to understand that the youngest of these planes, in principle, is already as old as it is in ukraine, that is, for the plane, it is already quite such a difficult age, and in any case they had to be updated, and this was even fixed in the visa, of course, among the possible options, we relied exclusively on western aircraft and according to the same visa, one of the options for updating

such aircraft as the fourth plus generation, which is in 16, and for example, the russian invasion of the russian federation regarding the supply of western aircraft to ukraine as a class in principle , was mentioned that, well, somewhere else in the spring about the fact that the kyiv plane will not be delivered to us, now we are talking about the fact that the planes are in processing, well, this request is being processed. that is, we are actually, well, in principle, not limited in the choice of this plane, but this process is long, that is, they. we must understand that they even in the case of such a decision regarding their provision. they will not be transferred tomorrow if the general list of these machines is, er, in view of the statement of the secretary of the us air force at the aspin conference, then hm, we are talking about any aircraft of the 4th generation plus, that is, the f-15 this is also in 16 ff18 gripen rafal and europeiter exactly such a list i.e. all 4th plus generation aircraft was announced by the pentagon as a possible candidate for strengthening the

armed forces of ukraine in principle, mr. oleksandr, when you managed e-e enterprise antonov you participated in international tenders. and actually there the customer announced the tender, announced the requirements for this or that aircraft, and the manufacturer had to adapt to these requirements and find some solution , so what is being learned that ukraine now, on the one hand, must understand the criteria for its own perspective aircraft, and the second is to announce a real tender, are there any other options for meeting the operational needs of the armed forces, what is the optimal way today, well, it would be better for ukraine, i will immediately proceed to the conclusion let's separate the two issues. what i was doing in anton was directed at torence. i personally understood that for this we would come to a large-scale war. but maybe even i could not

imagine exactly what to such a scale, because as you remember, we already knew about it. they talked about specifically from the 15th year here he was directly engaged in exceeding the e-e let's say the scientific and technical basis of the re-equipment of the air force and that is why, as of the 20th year, we came to the conclusion that one of these elements should be the f-15 in any to the plan i do not mind 16 and any other aircraft 18 especially emphasize 18 including why as 15 i also repeat that this is the father of the su-27 and all its current reincarnations su-35 as the last one directed by the thrust vector and essentially now returning to the question and what to do today, we need to divide the issue into two: what we need to fight, what to fight today is not related