here is a very broad question because, for example, here is a conditionally slavic factory, which produced ceramic tiles, it cannot move because there is clay from which these tiles are made. it is located in slavinsk, as well as with many other enterprises which are located near any deposits, they produce some of this and it is difficult to relocate them, but, for example, we have potash clays in transcarpathia, and i think that in some process it is possible to move part of the plant or, well , there are possibilities, uh, about that, well, still here the fundamental question is not only that all enterprises will move, but the question is also in the sales market, because what should the state do now, the idea, positive examples. for example, between the idea of ​​mykolaiv oblast, denmark took under the patronage of mykolaiv oblast and partially mykolaiv entrepreneurs gave the opportunity to

put their goods on the shelf in a danish supermarket, in my opinion, it was there together with the federation of employers and the state, and this is the kind of cooperation, and now they are negotiating there about the fact that danish manufacturers will place orders at mykolaiv enterprises and this is a great help and the head of the poltava branch of the servant of the people and the regional one, i understand that for our entrepreneurs it would be a huge help if the europeans helped us and our business in the sale of goods. baby food, there are some dairies, many factories. well , we can produce a lot of things in poltava oblast that could be exported to the countries of the european union, as well as well, for example, there are already partially continued to purchase goods from belarus from russia, we could easily displace them and, in principle

, yes, on a ukrainian scale, because well, there are indeed some things that, for example, we do not produce, but if well, for example, we convert some enterprises there and business will be encouraged and interested in this, we can produce completely different groups of goods, what was currently produced there for the domestic market can be exported, and first of all, well, we have this window of opportunity, we must use it, because we are not yet fully authorized where members of the european union, it will take some time for this, so far we are only a candidate country, but we have the main thing, we have it, we don't have exports and the european union now has a lot of goods. and this, well , all these years was the main such blocker for full-fledged exports in the european union, my country produces a lot of things and a lot of high-tech things and a lot, for example, we have processing products there, but it can also be

exported where is the price here where is the price somewhere in asian markets which is much lower than the price in countries of the european union dominates, let's not forget. yes, the eu market is 17 trillion kuroko , and it is a huge market, and well, we should occupy at least 1-2% there. in the 22nd year, it will be huge, it will be huge, not that. well, you probably know how not help, it will be possible, economic growth. well, for example, in the fourth quarter, if it would be possible to do so, well, we now have acts on everything, i know that the state and our president's ministry of foreign affairs are also actively involved and our party is actively involved in such a process european patronage it is the economic need of the countries in the regions. it is very important to add that uh, i really have a dynamic

that our country provides help to our uh , um, little business. i don’t have a problem at all. we had a company in my family. we moved to lviv, but practically we applied to the administration in lviv . and it was allocated to us. where can we place our company? well, three or four times cheaper than it was in kiev. well, there was a coefficient. what is the state of war? also add that among other things during this time since february 24, 150,000 legal entities are officially registered, of which 132,000, so you understand, there is very little business there, yes. that is, if the climate was bad, but there probably wouldn’t be such a large number there in four months, that’s why i see it here indeed, i can

say that the economic process is starting to have a good dynamic. where do i see a minus? they didn't get lost and people didn't run away, that's what i would like to put the emphasis on the only thing that uh-uh, it is necessary to pay attention so that the tax authorities pay attention so that some corrupt people do not start to use it and because of this, they do not start to receive in some way - and money, and so if even more, eh, this mechanism will be worked out, i think that it is very good, eh, the forecast is very good, and the result is very good for the restaurant, e-tail restaurant and agriculture, this kind of business in ukraine is recovering the fastest, writes forbes further in on the list, the transport industry and real estate shows significant recovery , the agricultural sector, which is important for the ukrainian economy, at the same time, the difficult situation remains in industry, the occupiers continue to attack ukrainian enterprises in the east of the country, but factories in other regions are gradually

resuming production, for example, at 40-50% of capacity, zaporizhia steel will work due to the russian invasion of ukraine the business faced a disruption in logistics, a shortage of personnel, a reduction in sales points and a lack of orders - the publication writes forbes refers to privatbank's internal calculations regarding the activity of small and medium-sized business clients of the bank, prices, payment volumes in various industries and compared them with last year's data . i want you to tell me how important it is and how difficult it was. then the industry itself will return it to us because, of course, if we are talking about some coffee shops, about retail, about trade. it is certainly much faster. and as for the large productions of large enterprises , how exactly will ukraine build up

all its capacities that were lost, of course, ukrainian industry was one of the brothers of mathematical development, it was a source of foreign currency income because we had significant volumes of export of industrial products, let it go at a high level, they processed it, but it is necessary to understand that today it is industry that is under the greatest impact , because today the occupier is trying to occupy and below that, the fishery, primarily industrialized regions, is about 30%. of this industry that was cultivated in ukraine, it was produced. it is here that the territory where active hostilities are currently taking place is why. well, we perfectly understand that it is impossible to restore the industry as it was before the war. and it is also inappropriate because these are regions that were largely an old industrial region which was characterized by an outdated

industry which was already gradually losing its competitiveness, which needed significant renovation, it had no physical money, no it makes economic sense to carry out sorenovation, therefore ukraine clearly needs to focus on a new industry, which would focus on today's and tomorrow's global demand, as ivan oleksii mentioned about the republic's potential, which clearly should be based on the use of resource potential should be based on ukrainian industry is what will dictate not that we will definitely not get rid of metallurgy , because ukraine is a country where the weight is on raw materials and metals, we will definitely be a country which will be largely engaged in the processing of agrarian products because we are ukraine with huge agrarian patrol capacities and this perspective is an opportunity to attract additional investments unequivocally

. buildings - building with building materials building what kind and so on and so on with the rest of ukraine is a country with a large population yes unfortunately we will lose a certain part of the population due to refugees who had to escape from the war, the forecasts are completely different . but in any case, it is possible to remain a sufficiently powerful consumer market, and if we observe and make sure that you observe the rapid recovery of the economy after the war, accordingly, those revenues will be demand, it will be from realization of deferred demand therefore ukraine in ukraine there will be a great demand for consumer goods in these segments, in fact, if we are construction, e.e., agro-processing, the construction industry, and the metallurgy the industry is the prospects that will naturally be shared by the graduates who attract ukrainian business in order to fulfill the funds on our territory , that is why the new industrial ukraine needs the past industry, i am convinced that this new

industry will be and the support of foreign partners, the arrival of underground investments, the implementation of the concerns voiced by the national government recovery plan they can uh provide a huge feed for uh huge information for potential investors they will know that they can find in our territory where they will be able to invest money. this new industry thinks that it will be a driver or a driver of economic dynamics in ukraine and so on oleksiy, it is precisely in the context of modernization and high technology in which ukraine will work. we hope for this, i want to discuss that it is possible a new trend, yes, because ukraine was usually self-confessed and aware of itself as a raw material economy. and if we talk about it after the war, i can already see that entrepreneurs are changing their ways and understanding what needs to be done. now to give goods with added value, that's how much our concept of our export

of our business is changing now, how much we are already becoming technological in order to export goods and not raw materials . our main markets were knocked down, we had one after the 14th of the year until february 24, we had other markets knocked down, these are mainly chinese countries, a partial country in africa, and we always have that rich, prosperous, developed market it was inaccessible to us in the european market, just like the market there in great britain, switzerland , the united states, but all processing, all high-tech products, it counts only if you can export your products there and simply the second degree of e-e-e business in

processing it was difficult to implement in our country, why? well , because, for example, if you are going to lead there, i don't know flour or something like that, which will, uh, spoil quickly, there are some high-value products there, even in the countryside. in the processing of agriculture , well, conditionally, there are some dried tomatoes in which are canned, they are not needed in african countries, they are needed precisely in the countries of the european union, that is, if i see here what our economy will be. well, first of all, we see the global trend of transferring enterprises from china to other countries, for example, there was an apple team yesterday or with microsoft there or with google, they transferred part of the production of their smartphones to vietnam and korea, and if i'm not mistaken, there will be some other asian countries, there will be businesses, there will be international companies, giants will transfer their enterprises from china will be

to transfer to other countries, why couldn't it be ukraine, we absolutely could, we have hardworking people, we have enough talented specialists, we have relatively inexpensive electricity and we have short logistics to europe, that is, where to import from china or vietnam, to import from ukraine, that is well, in fact, if you are building an enterprise somewhere in uzhgorod or in lviv or somewhere in ternopil, then in fact you have a topic of 200-300 km, if for example it is in ternopil or even there 20 km from uzhgorod and you are already in the european union well, if we are such a tightrope that when we become a part of the european union, it will in principle be beneficial for us from the point of view of building enterprises in our country, well conditionally. look at people working somewhere in other countries and here. people are ready to work , many are ready to work qualitatively and fruitfully, why i there has always been such a high demand for our specialists, and not

only for those who have labor specialties, and for those who are there for managers, for those who can create intellectual products, for everyone well, therefore, our perspective is in this, our perspective is that here enterprises will be created. look at slovakia is a small economy, but due to the construction of cars and due to the fact that at some point the european union placed the production of cars there, today it is a powerful european economy with sufficiently high wages . look at post-war korea, how they promoted their goods, how they promoted and whole delegations visited them and said we can produce everything, but give us anything from what can be produced , we will produce in the same way, he did it in his own way vietnam we did the same thing in singapore in its time, like japan created in post-war, and they, well, today are

the leaders of world economies, in principle, we can do the same, that is, we can produce everything, so the message should be like this. today i see really coordinated work of the ministry of foreign affairs and the office of the president and all its authorities, i will repeat that we are now repeating this experience, our delegations are traveling around the world. we saw the conference in lugano, we see active work there regarding patronage, when our officials there say we are ready to produce everything only there. come, place an order, say what he needs, even in war, we are ready to produce anything, uh, when there will be victory, when there will be guarantees, which of the foreign countries, when the business there will understand that everything is very protected here , and uh, there is also extraordinary opportunities, well, i thought that we will definitely see economic growth , it will be high, i hope that we will be able

to repeat the experience, let's take it here, if for singapore, then at least well, for example, the koreans, yes, or even vietnam, which shows sustainable growth economy for many years. how do you see this route of ukraine to a kind of conditional singapore or korea, water and the south? to help in this well, first of all, i think that our friends who are there will help us, well, take , for example, already uh, i think that uh, the united states will stir all over the world, yes, and investments in japan and in singapore and in europe in thailand, well, everywhere. well, look only in thailand, it gives net profits of 50 billion dollars, and

from the microchips there, which they produce there , i now fully agree with alexey that he says that there is only one person to support the fullness of it, but the point is that in our стране е м-м с что наверно самый лочути умы but you will only look at it technologies, and if you look at the fact that since the 90s, the first five places were occupied by oligarchs alone , this year we saw in the oligarchs completely different people after renata leonidovich who do we have two it specialists, guys, who worked for a while, in an honest way, i just heard the opinion yes, i'm sorry, maybe i can finish them, they just now all removed themselves because then they don't want to restore our economy, and in general, honestly , i should say to them, that's why i want to say that there are two guys who really earned money in an honest way. i want to say the second thing. here is aleksey

. that his business is not protected and what we are coming to is the reform that i am talking about everywhere judicial reform when you understand that you can go to court and uh you will have a fair trial that you can win and not like today we uh fill out the skymol situation, the french invested a lot of money there, then the team of president poroshenko's mistress came and extorted business from them , mr. nanenko, his friends, so here i am sure that after the war, we will have huge investments in our country. i am sure that we are invincible the occupier and the serious money will go here, only the only one by this time we must be ready and not start moving and then come up with what we will do and how we will do it, there is a clear plan will bring to the end the first thing that we should do is to do in the reform of the judicial system.

then, believe me, they will begin to invest in our country . they stole the budget earlier, they will continue the same well, our dear ones are very wrong , i don’t know, the officials there, check with me that soon they will tighten the nuts so that they almost won’t show up, you mentioned the president, let’s actually quote him, ukraine has a completely new sector of defense and security that will make a fundamental contribution to the security of europe in the coming decades, volodymyr zelenskyi stated this at the ambroseti international economic forum, and also emphasized that ukraine is an ideal, ideal place to host processing enterprises from woodworking to all types of mechanical engineering and together with you we can build one of the largest clusters of agro-processing strengthen our ability to be a guarantor of food security by making ukraine

a place of production of affordable food for the whole world ukraine is an ambitious reconstruction project after hostilities reconstruction by hundreds billions of euros, everything that russia destroyed with its terror, tens of thousands of different objects, we have to actually create anew. i am grateful to the italians companies that have already expressed their interest in ukraine receiving the status of a candidate for joining the european union is of practical importance to the state and business financial assistance has become available for countries that are preparing to join the eu, the so-called instrument of pre-accession assistance, these funds can come to ukraine through investment grants or as technical assistance, the general estimate of the third version of this european program is more than 14 billion euros, the priority areas in this are the development of democratic institutions, effective public administration, the state's emphasis on green

technologies, as well as assistance to small and medium-sized enterprises, giorgiu avika, 14 billion euros have already been observed somewhere that they are already coming to ukraine, if we are talking about these investment funds of the european union that are opening for us, since we are now candidates for eu membership well, if you remember, now we already have 8 billion until the end of the year, and two billion that we should receive, and then the next stages will be eh, and these are also 14 billion. i want another pay attention, do you know? today, we receive a trust fund that was created, we want to accumulate all the money there, and from there already start financing different projects. there they helped with the loan there. let it be even one and a half or 2%. today in our country, it will be difficult to pay. in general, i want it to be already . well, i know that the government is working on it

so that we can write off the external debt and we did not pay these interests and started to leave. they threw off this yoke. i want to draw your attention to the fact that we must, um , demand, as it were, to demand that they start giving us. деньги yes, let 's see how they restored japan, that's why such an experience is possible to do. what is the right of the custodian to choose from the attention that if it's grands, then they don't need to be stolen, they just need to be applied correctly. now there will be a new decree, a

fund will be created. of reforms and the supervisory board will be attended by donors and investors who will give grands and they themselves will monitor the work of this fund. i think in a month they will be there, so let's say they will introduce yaroslav to all of us. what do you think, is it real? so that the states don't just give us loans, but so that they help us irrevocably well, the point is that it already exists today, and ukraine has a certain part of the semi-financial that it received, it received it precisely in the guaranty regime. tentatively, somewhere out of 12 billion, somewhere in the order of five or six, these were real funds, but it will happen in july, i think the numbers are different now, but here you have to understand that ukraine. i already

said that ukraine is a program, it was a territory investment, but the countries of our partners, they understand that in order for this train curve to translate into practical opportunities to invest , certain basic things must be done regarding the reconstruction of the country, this is the reconstruction of the infrastructure, this is the reconstruction of certain social moments there in the digital era, and so on, this is the reconstruction of the basic ones, let's say there energy capacities and so on. that is, it is the investment or the areas that are, in principle, non-commercial areas, but the investment creates promising settings in it. i think that we need to talk about these areas about the fact that europe is here, our europeans, first of all. well, the united states as well. of course, they should consider the possibility of grant funding as a kind of investment in order for ukraine to be a potentially effective and interesting partner for a very commercial

arrangement. in addition, it is necessary to understand the following : well, let's remember wartime europe, yes, that is the marshall plan, which people always like to talk about , in fact, the marshall plan, which was a large grant plan, and funds were given significantly the reading of the funds was successful, he had a certain political oi, that is, he was creating a powerful europe that counteracted the spread of the influence of the northern soviet union to this day ukraine, unfortunately, our fate has turned out to be such that we are its corps today resisting russian aggression, as we already talked about at the beginning, we are not do we know what war is like, will we be able to overcome, say, russia as a threat to the world and the continent today, or will it be for today and tomorrow as the day after tomorrow, and this means that this investment in ukraine being a stable, effective, safe, prosperous

state, including this investment in the security of the european continent, here are these. here are such post-economic, perhaps or not direct economic aspects, because they can be certain motivators in order to encourage the fact that part of ukraine's support will still have a grant the nature of the grant statement about this today there are statements ot key statement e p oleksiy ot me simply in view of the fact that we have little time left in view of the fact that ukraine, in principle, economically has a certain such no matter what and considering the fact that there is a short queue of countries that want to simply give funds and then not return them to us over time, it is simply certain that there is no choice and there is no time to convince and work diplomatically in order to convince these or other countries to give us just like that, money, that is, we are forced to borrow now and borrow and borrow at the interest rates that are offered to us or not

. she won the business. for example, i know irpini bucha. now there is a screen. you won on the restoration . i know that there are program grants and so on in the country as a whole, where some regions won, but we are currently working there to restore one object in the poltava oblast, that is, there is there is an opportunity and these are small funds, they are not billions of dollars well, but they are what can interest any countries and what can i interest foreigners there in order for them to give funds to restore were ready er-er this is an economic interest then that is what yes what and they can come here transfer well, for example, their companies will transfer their business here and they will, for example, have a lower tax burden than there in asian countries, or for example there we will be obliged to

protect private property under the law and there. this is an anti-corruption reform and now many steps are being taken for this because the main thing is that the state, or i mean business as little as possible, so that the state is engaged in public administration, business is engaged in earning funds and paying taxes, this is the main thing. well, here there are many of these documentary fundamental things. recovery is the mistress of the fair and mr. tymoshenko kyrylovych, they hold regular meetings with ambassadors and there are already results, i can tell you that 200 million grand were allocated for education, so tell me what these are the figures will soon turn into billions, therefore we will have a bright future and we will win and everything will be fine with

us, amen, i want to say to your words glory to ukraine thank you, dear ones thank you george berkadze, an expert on economic and political issues yaroslav zhaliev was here with me in the studio economist, deputy director of the national institute of strategic studies by skype and also by skype, oleksiy ustenko, chairman of the committee on rent payments, environmental tax and agro-industrial complex taxation of the committee of the supreme the council of ukraine on finance, tax and customs policy thank you all for the professional substantive conversation well, our broadcast continues and i advise you not to switch, we will transmit the news, we will win, together we are strong in the cockpits of airplanes behind the monitors of radar stations at the control points of anti-aircraft missile systems on thousands of combat positions throughout the territory of our country, they gained every day, i want victory. glory to the air

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