this report will then pass a double control. well, there is an ethical problem. before it is accepted, each individual expert is responsible for his own report . the sanctity of the materials, etc. four specialists who deal with the station itself and all the security systems of the station, they write a report and this world. the main problem is that it is impossible for the nuclear power plant to be occupied by the road country, but in our favor there are many, many degrees of the first degrees of mega . the subject also writes a report that the seven

principles and traditional safety are violated at the station 66-7 or 5 or 6 and we are fine, we must demand to extort, to extort, drove tanks on the territory, knocked out the russians. did they shoot a lot? the store must write a technical report, and this technical report will become the basis of the next steps, where it will be our diplomacy and world diplomacy, so i am mine look at the situation. it is moving normally. now regarding your question, why wasn't there uh, uh, our employees, the book is the level of our economy . the german troops who came wanted kyiv, and some international red cross is going to kyiv for a test. you won’t ask why the sisters didn’t invite soviet mass media workers or a soviet minister. it

’s the shores of some minister, it’s their territory. they were captured, they are feasting there because i the first position is maybe three occupied territory occupied territory of the station so i go back to what i said understood only one decision i tell everyone about it in his interview which plenkov said it is clear that there is a threat in europe to the world of ukraine from to the countries of our neighbors, the consequences of a professional accident of protection, there is only one cardinal means, it is to stop it, the militarization of the station, i am sure that this is the report of the megatet, it will help the press to russia to provide it. and why is rosa still not under sanctions there ? a failure of ukrainian diplomacy, because it could have been started earlier precisely with sanctions measures, we

are now six months into the war, the station has been occupied since march, and we will reimpose sanctions ukraine is introducing only only now, well, this is very brief, you mentioned the 43rd year and the occupied kyiv hpp good comparison, you said i would advise you yes for energo, ladies, i went to the site, we went to the site of energoatom well, first, i will stop first. on march 24, a message from the sbu in the rivne region was detained by officials of energoatom on suspicion of treason and the name of this person is oleg boyarintsev, who had a direct relationship with personnel policy in narvatom, was detained at the border of the rivne region, reported to the sbu service of accusations of treason , cooperation with the russian occupiers, and here is yesterday's

message: representatives of the energy atom visited ivankov on the occasion of the start of a new school year of encouragement and young participants of the online project energoatom junior everything will be ukraine and here he is oleg boyarin, who was suspected back in april i was detained on suspicion of treason. i understand that the check was passed. everything is fine, the person continues to work in the criminal crimean implementation, close it, i will give you rights, i saw this interview on youtube and it is on the telegram channel of energoatom. kotina's interview is very important. first -hand information, and he said in the third that he knows , he himself has been in places in other countries, he knows some of these experts, specialists in energy and nuclear spies, during the era of yanukovych, derkach, a graduate of the gb higher school, was in charge. yes, i

i can't go on with you, and he was a deputy of the verkhovna rada at the last convocation. and the latter has a degree of involvement with the soviet russian agents, the billions they spent on preparing for the war were stolen in many ways, but not everything was stolen, and we will all understand that in ukraine, where are the pits and at what bodies? look. i am sure that in the journalistic environment you can find people who worked no longer at the fsb, that's why we have the following proposal . secondly, we discussed the issue, something like this is being sought, so i think that it is not necessary to demand that it cannot do, let it do its job professionally, and she will do it and make such a report that there is a violation of safety regulations at the station, and from now on, the role of others will be no moving thank you

, mr. mark , i was interested in the interview, mark zheleznyak , a scientist at the institute of environmental radioactivity of focus university, a former chernobyl liquidator. derkacha, but it seems that the cat himself was an assistant or worked under the command of the same derkacha, that is, they are all there. well, there is one company. it is easy to investigate everyone there. what mr. mark said is very important because he worked as a magician. the main goal of this organization is not proliferation of nuclear elements, therefore, they are not interested in objective coverage or analysis of what is happening there, how russia engages in nuclear terrorism, their goal is not proliferation, therefore, accordingly, they will fully record those the violations that are there, and then these violations should be corrected not by the megate, but by other

structures, diplomatic, well, not military, obviously, according to this story, where will everything come from if there is a call for demilitarization ? the russians are showing that it is we who are shooting there, you understand igor harbaruk is already with us economist members of the economic discussion club expert on international issues p igor we congratulate you i congratulate you colleagues break into our discussion and let's let's talk about money, exchange rates, and macro and microeconomic situations, what is happening in our country, the government predicted in its macro forecast that the dollar will be worth 50 hryvnias, when and what will happen to the currency , come on, colleagues, when you look at all these figures at the beginning of next year, the dollar 42 and at the end of the year, the dollar is 50 a, but only one thing pleases me, conditionally, with the advice that, as a

rule, all these macro forecasts of our government do not come true, that is, they never happened, but as they say again, that is, in fact, they do not come true. the question is that, in fact, if we really yes planning our economy for the next year, then in fact well, let's be honest, we fully subscribe to our inactivity and the impossibility of influencing the development of the economy, again, if we see what next year we will have, the ministry of economy predicts that we will grow by 4.6%. and this year, according to their forecasts, we will fall by 33.2%, and according to mine, somewhere by 37-38%, e, e, growth will be absolutely minimal, again, we are talking about the inflation that they plan for us next year, 36 tenths of a percent, and this despite all that, we understand that the national bank will close any holes by simply

printing funds, and i will simply remind everyone that at the beginning of august, the national bank printed uah 255 billion , so this will not work either, again, when they say about 28.2% unemployment, this also means that our ministry of economy is not going to stimulate the country's economy in any way. well, at the same time, we are just remembering with you the millions of people who have left and are not going to return to ukraine for the time being. that is, well, enough serious figures on unemployment, so in this case, i would advise as much as possible to pay attention to the staffing of our economic bloc of the government, change it and really involve those people who in such a critical situation will be able to plan positively and not forever minus for our economy, mr. igor, let’s take it one by one, if inflation next year is plus 30.56, you mentioned this year, it also seems to be +30 according to forecasts

, that is, in two years, our prices will rise by more than 60%. speak with taking into account these percentages, in two years we will be under 70%, everything around us will become more expensive, accordingly, our money, which we have now, and our salaries will be depreciated by more than 60% there, up to 70%." safe ones, well, this is a weakening of the economy. i understand that it needs to be done because the hole is 5 billion. practically, according to the estimates of economists and politicians , it affects the budget every year, every month. it has

to be covered with something. it is necessary to cover the needs of the military. it is necessary to cover the needs of doctors with electronic e of our e-e teachers of firefighters in policemen to pay pensions, i understand all this, but at the same time, i still believe that the government should focus more on where to borrow and how to borrow funds. it is good that in august they gave us 4.6 billion dollars. it is very good, but if this were not the case, it is necessary to develop programs that will stimulate our national business to work to provide for the needs of the army, that is, there should actually be clear state programs to stimulate the economy of ukraine in each sector, we see it, well, at least i definitely don’t see unemployment at almost 30%, how critical is it? well, it seems to me that it’s a catastrophe in general. but maybe those people who left are taken into account here, they are simply not counted there, well , there are almost 10 million there, eight or eight

million are able to work, and therefore it is possible if their not to take this into account at all, plus there will be no additional unemployment next year, well, again, you see such numbers, you need to explain it, we think with you maybe they took it into account and maybe they didn't take it into account but i still, uh, take it literally that is, in fact, those people who are in ukraine, 28% will not have a job, accordingly, they will go to social employment centers and there they will be told that there is no money. and in general, it is legal. well, it is a constitutional obligation of the state to pay or not, i don't know if it is there in our country it is directly written that the welfare state means that the unemployed must receive some kind of financial assistance from the state for his unemployment. well, we understand that we are living in wartime, well, actually. well, the state will provide it, it will print another 50-70 billion uah

in fact, then the inflation will already be there, not er, 30.6%. will be 35%, 37%. that's why i'm saying once again, i'm still in favor of the government finding opportunities for some sectoral support for business, somewhere to reduce some taxes, and somewhere to stimulate the creation of state programs, if even printing funds, then to influence them in national production, to protect the national market from possible imports that are not critical for today and to do everything so that ukrainian entrepreneurs really earn money so that they provide jobs then in our country taxes will appear, revenues will appear for the budget of ukraine and, accordingly , there is no other way to cover one's own needs, and you support this there 10-10, it's called so you

talk about it to reduce the tax burden there, but we already have a budget deficit of five billions and then where to take the money at all if its income will decrease when i absolutely that's why i always say it because you can see even in today's interview that you can reduce taxes only when there are incentives when there are incentives for development of the economy, that is, in fact, the reduction of taxes as a whole can be compensated by more income from the business activity of ukrainian business, that is, it is impossible to separate these two things in this way, and we really have to go. well, it is possible that there are some taxes that are too big, and financiers really need to calculate this, but by the way, there is a real risk and to calculate uh so that we don't make an even bigger hole in the budget, but at the same time, with all the tax reductions and all kinds of other tools that uh, well , are aimed at more loyalty and cooperation of the state and businesses should be supported by state

programs for the creation of a state market, let's say projects in which business companies will be involved, mr. irulovy mentioned that we managed to attract this month about four or five billion in aid for 15 4.6 to support our economy, but in general, well, on the scale of the budget of the european union or the budget of the united states. well, these are such pennies. you yourself believe that after the end of a full-scale war in ukraine, some kind of macro aid will be provided, well, there is a different calculation there under a trillion dollars or euros is needed for the restoration of the infrastructure and the restoration of what we lost during the war, if we receive, if we consider five and six or four and six a great achievement, then how much will we need to achieve to receive a trillion, please ? everyone

saw and heard that huge delegation from ukraine that was present there, and since there they drew 750 or 800 billion then they wanted, i still believe that these were the statements of our officials about how much they want to receive but again, until they will not create any incentives until we are competitive in the international market, the global market of investment attractiveness among countries, these funds will come in very small amounts and they will come in very, very difficult, so to say that it will be an easy process and that they will give us money just like that. believe me , this will not happen. again, we can already see today when the leaders of countries come when they offer their programs, but we all clearly understand that they will be even if they and they will give funds, they will lobby for the interests of their own business sector, that is, in fact, these funds will create such conditions that in this case,

these tenders will be to a greater extent won by western companies. therefore, we should already think in advance , and whether these funds will be still, to a greater extent, rely on our own strength for our own economy, and if e tam is already so sincerely saying absolutely, really think about how to return to ukraine those funds that were withdrawn at least during the time of independence, and we, our oligarchs, this about 150-180 billion dollars, that's what we'll talk about with our next guest mr. igor . what did we get to? today i traveled by train from kyiv, the train from kyiv to ivano-frankivsk is a good branded train, and there i'm sorry, the toilets are the second time i'm going to the toilets, like in the soviet union, where all this stuff is thrown away.

arrived in lviv and a young woman at five o'clock in the morning. i go out and she goes to the conductor, the toilet is closed because sanitary zone a, the train stops for 20 minutes, you see, and she really wants to go to the toilet, and he tells the conductor that i can't, now i will be punished for this, and i i think about myself, the 21st century, almost half of us understand ukrzaliznytsia, where the members of the supervisory board receive 10,000 euros in salary, and people are suffering, paying as if they were normal money for traveling on these trains, they can’t go to the toilet, i’m not saying about ecology - the ecology of our environment. we clean up after the dogs in balls when they, i'm sorry, walk in the park, but human things are simply thrown out of the toilets of ukrzaliznytsia. how much more money do we need to work and work and work in order to be at least somehow closer to europe there and to north america is a very long time and there are a lot of games about it so that once again here you simply need to work, you need to pay to come up with documents, no, i think that you just need to

work and to a greater extent, apply and pay the work of those people who really work with their hands, and those who just appear online two or three times a month and only pretend to be doing some kind of work, uh, what are they there, members of what other supervisory councils are there, or do we need to get rid of them, thank you, members of the games of the economic discussion club, an expert on international issues . the ministry of justice plans to file new lawsuits for the confiscation of the assets of yanukovych and putin's entourage as early as september. please tell us how this lawsuit will proceed in practice and what ukraine can get from it, and

it was actually introduced by the parliament in may of this year, on may 24, the rada adopted the corresponding law. it is about the introduction in ukraine of this type of sanctions for the recovery of the assets of russians, actually individuals who in one way or another supported the aggression against ukraine, a mechanism has been introduced that is implemented by issuing a court decision, that is, the property is recovered thanks to the court decision, because this is a norm that actually corresponds to the constitution of ukraine, the latter says that it is possible to take property from individuals only by a court decision, but the mechanism itself is somewhat more complicated, eh, first of all, a sanction must be imposed in in the form of blocking of these assets, the decision is

taken by the national security and defense council, and subsequently those materials are sent to the ministry of justice, which examines whether there is a right to recover this asset, and actually then files a corresponding lawsuit to of the anti-corruption court, the hearing of the case lasts there for 10 days. that is, it is such a short period of time, in fact, as i already said, the law was adopted in may, and we received the first lawsuit only three months later, at the end of august. and here is actually a problem, because it is quite such a long time, and our fears are that we are creating such a large time varnish and an opportunity for the same russians and russian oligarchs to avoid sanctions by somehow rewriting this property and getting rid of it and actually in this way, the state may lose the opportunity to confiscate this story in the future. if we talk

about yanukovych's assets, then this should also be done, because there is evidence that yanukovych is equal to the aggression of the russian federation and his entourage about that, first of all, it is necessary to understand that yanukovych's assets in our country are not so many and that there are serious criminal proceedings against him there, i would really like to see first of all the assets of russian oligarchs and i will say now there is already a court decision regarding the same mr. yevtushenko yes, but it is necessary er, and collect the assets of mr. friedman, mr. rotenberg, mr. deripaska, who have acquired such serious assets in ukraine, and actually, first of all, they need to be collected, and mr. babakov, who do they belong to? well, that’s what they say, the head of the so-called luzhniki group, in russian, strategic ukrainian enterprises, in particular , khersonoblenergo kirovohrad oblenergo

zhytomyroblenergo rivneoblenergo chernivtsioblenergo and literally a month ago on july 24 there was a decision of the official court that the state bureau of investigation and the prosecutor general's office could not to arrest the energy assets of the vs energy group, which belongs to oleksandr babakov, the deputy chairman of the state duma of the russian federation, ot and his partners, well, in particular, the president of the fc-tssk of russia yevhen e. giner and mykhailo voevodin, who is also a co-owner there, who, according to interpol, has the title of thief in law and is known nicknamed misha luzhnetsky or luzhnivsky mr. olena here is your comment about these oblenergos, this situation with assets vs energy and babakov, will this story continue or not, it will remain so please, i really hope so, but i would just start with

the fact that when we talk about the possibility of taking away similar assets, there are different tools and the tool that you mentioned here is about criminal cases that are brought against russians , mostly they are being investigated today by the state bureau of investigation e bureau of economic security or the security service of ukraine, and as provided for in the procedure in criminal proceedings, the suspects are presented with appropriate petitions to investigative judges, depending on which body is investigating the rest of this property, but what is the problem with criminal proceedings? we observe that when it comes to arrest in criminal proceedings, it happens in such a rather manual mode in ukraine due to the fact that the judicial reform has not yet been implemented, that is, today. tomorrow this one was removed well, it can continue with hands according to

the moment when the issue of confiscation comes up. well, it can be several years, i will remind you that the assets of that yanukovych despite the fact that the events took place during the revolution of dignity in 2014, criminal cases began at the same time, but yanukovych's assets in criminal proceedings have not yet been confiscated, so we must understand that this process of investigating crimes is a long one, and he allows , let's say, such a manual investigative body , actually even to bargain with the russians for with the help of manual courts somehow remove arrests impose impose partially that is why we call on the authorities to constantly use the asset recovery mechanism because when you already accept there is no decision on the recovery of the asset, there is no way back. there is no rest that can be appealed, it has been removed. actually, no additional opportunities are created. you mentioned,

you mentioned, you say criminal proceedings. and have assets of strategic importance here in regional oblenergo. i'm not talking about a number of hotels there. they still have premier palaces there in odesa, in kyiv, in lviv, even the largest, most expensive hotel there. well, how? this can happen, and there are criminal proceedings here, well, isn’t it possible to pass some kind of separate law that during the war there was a military invasion, the head of the legislative body of the occupier ukraine cannot conduct business in a country that was attacked by his country, well, is it, well, is it somehow very difficult to explain to the court whether to explain to the parliament in order to adopt such a law, well, there are many tools for this, the main issue is already in the legislation, that they need to be actively implemented, as i already said before charging assets, they can be block the blocking of the asset. in fact, this is the

decision of the nsdc - this is the story that actually does not allow the use of the asset for the benefit and actually against ukraine and to make money from it, including in the first place, therefore, if you work quickly to block the assets and file lawsuits for their recovery, then there should not be a situation with the functioning of russian business in ukraine. so why does this happen, this is just the story of such manual influence, in some cases it is possible to fail to act quickly in some perhaps unwillingness to act quickly, but the tools are simply a matter of their desire and the possibilities of their application. what are the prospects for this first case regarding the confiscation of the assets of the russian oligarch volodymyr yevtushenko, the anti-corruption court above began considering this case, we understand it this way, and this is the first such precedent

after the adoption of the law which allows the confiscation of legal entities and individuals involved in the armed aggression of the russian federation . the minister is a node of the ministry of justice of ukraine, the lawsuit is satisfied, the assets of the foreclosure are more than 17 objects of real estate - this is the authorized capital of many companies, i am an officer who was in that shynkovtse, including such quite serious enterprises that ukraine can use after the foreclosure in fact, in his favor, and now the decision of the first instance is the next case for the appeal decision if it is submitted by that party, but in the court session, as far as we know, the representatives of e are not legal entities and yevtushenkov himself did not appear,

although there were reports of the procedure established by law , after the appeal. in fact, this means that ukraine is taking property, and this is a very important precedent . that we are showing the west our readiness and specific examples when we take property from russians, because we understand that in the west there are a lot of assets of russian oligarchs that can not simply be used today it is already in favor of the aggressor, not actually against the aggressor in favor of our armed forces in order to return russian western assets to ukraine , but in fact we need to create new tools because the only thing today is sanctions, these assets are blocked and the russians are unable to sell them this is not enough, we have to collect them in ukraine and, of course, it is much easier for us to demand that western countries give us these assets, and only in the case when we ourselves do our

homework and take these assets from ukraine people, that's why it is, but we are producing it, this work is only the first lawsuit, and then there will be an appeal, uh, they will have five days to file an appeal regarding the decision of the representatives of the relationship, what is it, i suspect that the appeal will be there too, yes, i understand that it is me i read the assets of volodymyr yevtushina tyschenkov or her tushenkova electric plant from zaporizhzhia, then the ukrainian research design design technical institute of transformer-building zaporizhzhia scientific engineering center ztz-service record transformer zaporozhye is all the assets of the former konstantin grigoryshyn, that's right - these are the assets or not, don't you tell me the russian oligarch kostiantyn grigoryvych shevchenko, it is known that when he dined together with volodymyr sivkovich near the restaurant gvizd, they were accepted then