i say that we need serious analytics when a serious analyst who writes for a snake or serious journalism is well trained in sociology who write this information is not just to do some ctrl seec i saw that the opinion was also divided they asked this question and it is a very important question is the following: will the war end? can we postpone the elections? because we have more urgent needs or should elections be held? well, as soon as the war ends, as it should be by law, a little more than 50%. i don't remember the exact number in my opinion 52 maybe a little more said that we can postpone, but 40% said no, we cannot postpone the election, that is, martial

law is being created and we no longer have legal training, legal no, unrestricted for democracy. i will be very useful here because, you know, the restrictions are ending state of affairs well, the hybrid war can still continue. yes, in our country, the war was going on even without martial law, and even until the 24th. in military conditions i will do nothing. she freedom of speech is like that. if we talk about 40%, they say that you can't postpone it, but 40% is a very large figure. let's remember that iryna bikeshkina. she liked to repeat this figure that 15% stood on the streets around the country. moreover , not all of them even stood, not all of them went out for a party, some of them helped, uh, financially, some of them brought warm things, some of them made coffee, chaika napki

, in total there were 15% of such people. and these 15% were enough to break the yanukovych regime and russia's imposition of the customs union and so on so when i see these numbers that want to preserve the freedoms of opportunity and the freedom of criticism , including this government, well, this is quite optimistic once again. i was very happy. this question arises from us: how to criticize the government? and when you understand that we are in the same boat and the rocking of this boat without any jokes. this is a very correct

serious metaphor and we must first of all survive together. myself and as a citizen, in what way is it necessary or possible or not necessary to criticize the government? well, look , we actually got an answer to this when all political forces voted for the introduction of martial law and the granting of appropriate powers to the president as the supreme commander-in-chief. they introduced a certain self-censorship , it’s true and everyone is bald, i listen to many experts, and those who are known for their critical attitude to the authorities, they say we know this, we know what mistakes, let’s say, they were ready for war preparations before the war immediately after but we will talk about it after the victory. i think this is a very correct position. that is, we are all lurking-interpreting. how to

say it? you have to be normal when we talk about some military things , especially since the majority of people are not specialists. yes, even on the channels there are a lot of people who comment on military events, they are not actually military experts in this matter that's why i think that the actions of our military, er, military decisions, we can criticize to the smallest extent , this should not be done at all yes yes yes but what can be and what can be criticized and where we see that they are really not allowed that limited positional channels do not allow certain people on the air where we see

that the government is there where we see that in the afternoon there is a meeting of our president and the students are sitting next to him. the minister of education is also in a very beautiful embroidered dress and the students are asking him. the president is asking. wait, we are before the war. they started an indefinite strike against scarlet fever, yes, because the person is a plagiarist, that is, of countries. this person can not, cannot, er, lead the world, and here volodymyr oleksandrovich says listen, it was before the war, what do you know about this question, it is not timely at all, it is so petty, it shows that the president doesn't understand and here we can criticize here but again , we have to speak carefully we shouldn't shout out there shame we'll get out there and that's what we have to say what we are fighting for a new ukraine for a new ukraine and so it's absolutely obvious that uh, we have

and change what is there, if one more moment, i think it is very important because i often give comments to western media, western media, western arabic, turkish, and so on. and now they start calling me and saying, well, what's up with you ? there, zelensky concentrates power, yarmak concentrates power , and you know that when i speak here, i speak, i speak very, very sharply, there . west ya i try to be careful. yes, i try not to use any harsh words about our government, moreover, if we remember the article in the washington post that said that the government did not prepare properly for the war and zelenskyi, to

be honest, gave an unsuccessful answer there, e- this article did not tell us this article is true, we know everything about it, we know about it even without the war . in the same way, it undermines the level of trust in ukraine from international partners, so i believe that it did not play a positive role, as well as the statements of the spartans . big big temptation to talk about victoria from the party and about this article in e-e now you can not talk everything is harmful everything has closed this topic yes so the survey e

in e e e august e democratic initiatives together with the rumzkovo center conducted their survey e regarding in fact, regarding the request for democracy, freedom , monopolization of power, and so on, you wrote that you asked the question a bit more broadly. in terms of worldview, what did this survey show, here is the filmmakers showing us the actual screen. please tell us what this survey showed. look, there was a survey about a strong hand. there were several questions, including about the strong hand, and we also showed that well, before the war, before the full-scale war, those who believe that we have several forces were formulated in this way, or can only strong leaders to do more for the country than all the laws and

discussions, that is, before the war it did not exceed 55%, now it has increased a little to 58, but this figure, let's say at the end of the zeros, it was 75%. that is, in fact, if we look at the trend , which is so global, then this is a decrease in this support , then we had a question about which system is best for ukraine. that is, we did not tie it , unlike the city, to the situation, because there all the questions are here and now during the war we asked what is the best system for ukraine democracy 64%. and 14% say that under certain circumstances autocracy can be better than democracy 13% in all respects to them from the predecessors but 64 and 4 compared

these numbers yes 60%, so what is democracy with countries with stable democracy, say with the united states or with britain and can you now compare it where we in one sense, you know i can’t, but if you had given me this task in the pre-program, i would have googled and found something on this topic, but looking at the situation in hungary , which is in france, where 40% voted in the second round, it’s okay again it's not all supporters on pen but those who voted 40%. i don't hear it, it's a figure for a-a well, and so on, let's look at it well, trump is a separate story in general, that is, a separate story, that he retains the chances of re-election, if anything i would like to emphasize here, this is 64 on the trend of 64%.

by 2014, there were less than 50 such people, after 2014 they became more than 54% and now as many as 64, and we made a breakdown by social status, which means that the greatest support for democracy among better -off people is 70% and 71%, but even among those who do not have a chart, i am now i will change this, but even among us there was a category of extreme poverty, still 53% against against 15%. yes, that is, these are good indicators. now let's move on to this diagram that you showed us, because here we asked a provocative question. and we ask it regularly. we measure everything. let's show it. we

ask before freedom. we understand that this is somewhat artificial because everyone wants to be healthy, rich and beautiful at the same time yes, but we still asked but if it means after all for the sake of prosperity. are you ready to give up a share of your freedoms in the state and you see that this is october so that it is equal, the higher the level of education it falls such people in the country as a whole was 31%. but let's go back to this diagram of 47%. they said all over ukraine that we don't want to sacrifice freedom. and again , the higher the level of education. we see that here

already 57% say so. we don't want to now when they understand that freedom can be smeared on lib eh, well , you can and so you can say so, although yes, so do we we can say that, but uh, once again, uh, you know, we had different situations, and we had situations when the society was really extremely poor, but it was doing the right thing - there were situations when, for example, during economic growth and the maidan of 2004 this is a period of economic growth, and people came out. you people came out not for money, people came out against the falsification of westernism, and we had a revolution of dignity. people came out for dignity and beat their children, not even for european integration, but in the 19th year, populism. yes, it worked.

worked. therefore, once again, i think that in general these numbers are good enough, these numbers of kmist yes, there is something there . the results give us the opportunity to think and see the danger. i think that in reality, when we see the risks for those who think, make decisions, it is also very important. the main thing is that the government did not buy into it, so that it did not see in this temptation well, we know that such temptations, unfortunately, unfortunately, there are before us, you have a separate section. yes, in this survey, where are the initiatives where you ask people about the war a-a over 90% of surveyed ukrainians believe that we will win the victory, but what is a

victory for ukrainians, how do they perceive it ? tell me, what do ukrainians consider a victory, what is a victory for them? well, you know, there are no sensational numbers here, because here it is precisely with our survey that it shows results that coincide with the survey of others of sociological services and yes, ukrainians believe in victory, ukrainians do not want to compromise with russia. crimea and we will end the war, well, it's about 9%. those who say that the comrades of the department for what? well, that will be a victory, they think that we will liberate all of ukraine except for crimea, yes, and such and such such and such 9%. yes and those who say that our victory is a return

to the status quo on february 23, in such seven and a half, well, eight percent, let's say 8%, yes, these people also believe that this will be our victory, yes, but in principle, these are the results that ukrainians do not want to go all sociological polls and even i speak for me show that they are willing to make concessions to the aggressor this is strange. well, my partners, my colleagues, there is nothing strange here, there are no ukrainians, they got the ukrainians , they understand that it is impossible to retreat any further, they are ready to go to the end. i also understand this. i just understand that people, well, war is psychological fatigue . things want to say well once for the ukrainians well, let's say negotiations, but polls before show that ukrainians do not want such negotiations. by the way, there are some alarming numbers in this poll

as well. if we have time, we can discuss them if not, then look when we asked who is responsible for the war and there you could give several options for answers and so 86% believe that the russian leadership bears the main responsibility for the war in ukraine all the popularity by the way of putin lukashenko, which were the wildly popular villages in ukraine all 86% do not have it. says that the leadership of russia is responsible, but since it was possible to give several options for answers, about 20% say that the leadership of ukraine is also responsible for this, yes, that is, at the same time people even from some percentages indicated and russia and ukraine 18%. who always voted for the pro-russian forces, it is always correct . here are these 15%. no, not necessarily. because if we

are talking about those who support the most, they are fixed, if we were fixed, let's say it's supporters of the customs union, they fell, yes , supporters of the union from russia, another 18% say, well , instead, it is also responsible for this, yes, that is, 86% they say that russia and 18% he says that it is also nato, yes, that is, a few percent overlap here and there, you know, i wouldn’t even say that because i heard these thoughts and i heard thoughts there in the bazaar, there are some people there selling tickets and they say well, yes, putin, of course, is a rabble-rouser there, well, but we were there, we jumped, we wanted to, we wanted to, he is in nato, that is, such people, you understand them too these figures are a little disturbing for me, but the fact that the russian world has completely collapsed is a fact, that is, this is a

question, let's say it's just a question of responsibility, where it is distributed to everyone, it's also a little putin fershtein putin fershteynske yes, but uh, supporters of the russian world, those who say now let's in russia yes, they weren’t even there before the war, the eurasian union , it was about 10, yes, in different russian countries , they helped even more ap i offer oleksiy, actually, we literally have 7 minutes left to talk about the book of memories in the texts of the speeches dedicated to the memory of iryna bekeshkina, here is actually this book, we will also show it separately in the picture. why is it

called as long as we are alive i will remind you that uh the continuation of this phrase, er, of this aphorism of the brilliant, brilliant irina bekeshkina is while we are alive, nothing has been decided definitively. yes, er, why is this possible for you, why, and what is this? well, by the way, i would like to say that for the second year in a row, according to the amway version, she is included in the list of the most influential ukrainians of all time, of all time . first of all it is absolutely honesty against the background of venality yes, because we know how much political scientists and, unfortunately

, sociologists and political experts and public figures are sold in our country. yes, and we know it as people, let's say they were first in yushchenko's team, then they ran over to yanukovych, then they ran to poroshenko, then you zelensky later well, unfortunately , these people are e-bikes who personified this crystal honesty, just like kucheriv, who was the founder of this fund and in 2004, it was our fund. i did not work in it then, but i was friends plus the mix plus the churches, it was these three centers in the consortia that withstood the pressure, then there was the testimony of people who worked for the party of regions or puppets who offered a million dollars to paniotta, this is also evidence. and many sociologists

simply could not resist and they gave falsified results, although these people, again, they are now present on tv screens and in the mass media and are promoted and so on. therefore, absolute honesty, a very clear professional position, the struggle for professional standards, she struggled a lot with all these pseudo sociological offices, and she is in called horns and hoofs, and from that time it went like this, because everyone says that it is roga and horns and hoofs, and she was very media-oriented and very loved. she was very accurate and spoke well. well, you quoted here, let 's say that ukraine is a unique centaur where a high level of freedom is combined with a high level of corruption and lawlessness, so, well, it was about uh, earlier, time flies by two years, so it is

the most important thing for everyone - he continues now ukraine - this is a plus freedom minus the law continues, bekeshkina says, there are two possible ways to add the law to freedom and become a democratic country, or take away ukraine's freedom and become an authoritarian state, and without this threat anymore, you know, i don't think so. let's do it, if on the positive side, i don't think that we are threatened by authority any government has temptations to concentrate something more in their hands, and such temptations will be here, will they, uh, become real , or will they be successful? i think not, again, the practice of ukraine shows this time and time again moment of society every time it becomes more organized more after the maidans now we see this same organization of society - 2 greece moment - this is not a candidate for the european union yes and this is a

factor of our internal transformations yes therefore it will be very, very difficult to leave this there are threats, but i think we will surrender them, if possible , we have a couple of minutes, let's just give an aphorism about the government - the most terrible government - stupid, even corrupt, is not such a big evil yanukovych and his entourage snuck in and watched this about yanukovych yes, a proposal, a proposal about populism, oh my god, yes , we need to communicate with people instead of shouting in a stupid voice into the megaphone, yes, about the contradictions in the views of ukrainians, that’s what we talked about, you know what’s interesting, we seem to be unhappy and poor, we can’t do anything, we like to complain a lot and let's look at our new year's survey, the question of whether you are happy, you also answer

as always, it was interesting here that ukrainians always say that ukraine is moving in the wrong direction. and how do you see your future? it is optimistic. i see yours. now the situation is for the first time in many years. it has developed in such a way that the future looks better to the country than to their own, and this again means that people see that ukraine is ukraine, ukraine will be ukraine is an expression when you talk about your own well, then you understand the problems you are facing yes, and so many people have faced such tragedies . nevertheless, by the way, our survey shows that once again, nadia prevails among ukrainians. well, during the maidan, she said that the initiative of public organizations should the formation of the new maidan, the maidan of reforms, and this

is what we are talking about now, that we are fighting again for a new country, if it had another one called, well, one question, we have a comfortable bank, can it be a phenomenon, another question for you, well, the phenomenon of concern banks, because this is about what ukrainians are doing now. iryna bikishkina, who went to the mountains. yes, and she says that there is such a phenomenon. you will feel relief because you have helped someone, she says it contradicts the laws of physics, but uh, but this is uh, this is such a kind of psychological phenol, that's what she called it, the phenomenon of canned goods. i think that the ukrainians, when we look at our survey, they just show that the war is terrible and the ukrainians are not

lost in that place. i want we have literally two minutes left and i still have a very important question for you. according to my feelings and observations and not only mine, yes, this war we pay a terrible price, but we actually got the sense of subjectivity is absolutely completely new for us, we saw ourselves against the background of other nations , and we understood that we are now the moral leaders of the world, we are absolutely our army, how powerful is it and how much the world admires ukrainians in general, and our true strength, so subjectivity is new identity, we got rid of it well, it seems to me like this, the feeling of secondaryness in relation to the former empire of our metropolis

. with us, an inherent feature of our is it not me after victory in history, nothing irreversible ever happens, that is, there are black swans that can change something, but in general, i think the trend is absolutely obvious more but i want to say that you still remember until february 24 and we were told in 2010, in 2014, ukraine is not a subject, ukraine is an object , they are dividing us. and then we said, listen, if we became subjects, we stopped putin in 2014. well, aren't we subjects, we are subjects of politicians? if it weren't for the ukrainian people, they would have taken us and captured us divided and it was like that before, but now you are absolutely right. this feeling of subjectivity is nothing with us anymore. at my level and in the world, that's also why i think that everything will be fine. and iryna

pikeshkina said about herself that she is pathological an optimist, although she understood everything. although she understood all the problems, nothing was idealized, and that is why i think we also need to understand this problem, you understand. unfortunately, this is with us for a long time, that it may drag on and there will be victims, but we will win unconditionally. persevering hard work thank you thank you humor helps us thank you mr. oleksiy harania professor of political science of the kyiv-mohyla academy scientific director of the democratic foundation today i was a guest of the a-a project my own names i thank everyone who watched us and as always thank you to the armed forces of ukraine for the fact that this conversation could take place glory to ukraine and glory to our heroes glory to ukraine the war in

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