a loud as is being built in turkey by the russians. well, there are different options that need to be looked for, and of course it excludes hostilities. well, at least 10-20 km in the area around zaporozhskaya. i think that’s all. well, according to the question to mr. yehor , in your opinion, what are the prospects of implementing a demilitarized zone at the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant in general? the station is temporarily occupied under international control. unfortunately, we know that all the decisions of the un security council will be blocked

by the russian federation, so even if the russian federation will present such a report in which they will demand a demeterized zone and the introduction of a peacekeeping contingent, i think that it is at the level of the security council it will be blocked by the un. there is still a mechanism. of course , the general assembly and the decision at the general assembly . indeed some limited contingent of peacekeeping forces well, what about some other ways of demilitarization, this is actually what we are doing now in the kherson region, it is depriving the army of the russian federation of its logistical chains, depriving them of their transport or

ammunition, food, equipment, fuel, and so on further and in this way forcing them to retreat and for this we need more and more high-precision long- range weapons from our partners, we agree mr. yegoren, but we understand from the other side that the megatet is one of structural subdivisions that are subordinate to the united nations organization, well, taking into account your experience in the work of the nato parliamentary assembly, i would like you to predict whether, in your opinion, there will be prospects for representatives of the same group to come to the podium of the un general assembly with a request to carry out demilitarization and the introduction of ouniv peacekeepers to zaporizhzhia is now difficult to predict everything will happen. i think it depends on the rhetoric of the a-a report that will be

submitted or whether we will see a joint game of magotei with of the russian federation and there will be such a report that well, there are indeed risks, but the risks are being controlled, for example , or there will still be a clear position that really a-a we have to ensure a demilitarized zone, and then this will already trigger the mechanisms within the un and regarding the bordeaux geno assembly. please tell me mr. igor, in your opinion, if russian diplomacy will not be present at the general assembly of the united nations, will the topic of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant be effectively raised there, and will the calls of civilizations be calls of the civilized world to of the russian authorities and somehow at least heard the

information that there are still no suitable visas for russian diplomats who should be preparing lavrov's visit to the general assembly. i think that it will be more effective without the participation of the russian federation, which everything is turned upside down and tries to make white black and black white, and without their input, without their report, it will be just like that, i think it is more effective to make decisions, but i am talking about the un general assembly, where there is actually no blocking vote in russia the federation is there where decisions are made by a majority of votes regarding the radbezov well, we know that on any issue that concerns ukraine, the poet yehor chernev, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the permanent delegation of ukraine

in the nato parliamentary assembly, the only decision on them, let's hope that relations with mr. yehor will now be restored connection continue, be kind, i don't know which part we are filming, how russia will rest on the security council, but its powers at the un general assembly will be much weaker at the un general assembly, they are not they simply have a blocking vote, so in fact there the decision is made by the majority of votes, and without the russian federation, i think there will be a more constructive dialogue and a more constructive concept, mr. mykolay, what prospects do you see for international instruments to be used, in particular, to put pressure on russia, well, our goal is the demilitarization of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and the work of united

nations peacekeepers there suggest that now zupyn is burning much faster , not because of security, but about the police force. i think that they will block the thread of russian china, and everything else is completely rumors. and where is the biggest dream, but it is necessary to understand very clearly because of the complex problems of too many small countries and without the right to vote with a population of 5-10-20,000 people ? and that’s not where dad narvals, i’ve already forgotten his name, which i recognized as indexes, uh, donetsky luhansk respublika, and everything against it, too, the same voice .

the voices climbed the ocean, so this is a problem , because i hope that there is more than a civilized world to support, but will they make such decisions, what decisions will be made ? the scenario in general consists in the fact that they begin to threaten or threaten the entire continent from the fact that a man-made disaster may occur at the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant and in parallel at the same time they are preparing for what to a huge mega thefts, i.e. they are preparing to transfer the energy produced at the zaporizhzhya nuclear plant to the temporarily occupied territories from a technological review, what would it look like, well , in general, how complicated is this procedure in the current situation, and the enemy will try to

implement something similar well, we already talked about that that krym does not need electricity from the rostov side. elektroener well, the company is standing, let's put candles on ours, as in difficult enterprises, that's why there is a shortage of electricity, too, not the main task today. russia will force ukraine. well, i can’t imagine anything else, well, here we definitely

agree with you, the only technological point is how technologically it will be difficult for them to do no it is about the fact that they have some need for stolen electricity from us, their task is to tear out , in principle, such a fundamental moment as the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant from our power system, if they wanted to. the technological operation is done with two keys, roughly speaking like this now. there, let's allow krym sejách, it's not possible to look at the substation as dzhankoy, that is, we russians can't file through me, yes,

that means everything is internal to us, that's our buying zone. somewhere for minutes, somewhere for seconds, but i have no problems, this is no problem, i don’t need it. thank you, dear mr. mykola. well, finally, now we will organize the territory in some way, we are occupying it and preparing for the next one. you know, there are mountains, the third one is coming rammstein would very briefly ask for your forecast of what will happen to us at the next meeting of the donor states of our defense industry. i think that unfortunately, fortunately, we will not hear most of the decisions on ours. unfortunately for the russians, fortunately, i think that

for us, because now rammstein is moving into such a more strategic plane, if the first rammstein was not such a plugging hole that can be found in the warehouses of the a-a countries of the participating countries, then now , as at the meeting in copenhagen, the issue of strategic such a-e is already being worked out cooperation for months or even years, that is, the question here is not what can be found in warehouses, but what can be produced in the near future, because everyone understands that this war will continue, and after its end, it is necessary to rebuild this the security system, which, unfortunately, has been decreasing over the past 30 years, it has been decreasing, armies have been decreasing, weapons have been decreasing, now it all needs to be restored. i think that this is exactly what will be discussed in the fifth year. thank you,

our dear online guests, for this inclusion for your visions of the situation, mykola shteinberg, chief engineer of the chornobyl npp, ex-head of the state committee on nuclear safety, former minister of fuel and energy, who summed up his speech today on the topic of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, that its liberation lies only in the field of our winning the war, in fact we were yehor chernev, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the permanent delegation of ukraine to the nato parliamentary assembly. thank you, and we will move on to our next topic. about the state budget of ukraine for the next year, the ministry of finance announced the state budget deficit for august, the state budget deficit of ukraine has been at a low level for two months, and in august it remained at the level of uah 5 billion thanks to grant assistance. the ministry of finance explains in particular that such a low deficit is related to

a sharp increase in grant foreign aid, which falls under the income column, but we must also be aware that the way we are now, let's say, consists of the implementation of the current year's budget, from that we can to rely on next year's budget, to contact the studio now oleksandr savchenko , director of the international institute of business, doctor of economics, professor, deputy chairman of the national bank of ukraine from 2005 to the ninth year and deputy minister of finance from 2009 to the 10th, if i read everything correctly from all your books, mr. oleksandr vitau, i would like to be called simply an economist, like karl marx, well, that's normal now . so, the situation with the receipts to our derbudget , just now khrystyna announced information that should not have the deficit has fallen, but on the other hand, we understand that

a major comprehensive reform is looming, well , it is looming, which does not mean its finalization 10-10 , so it is about taxation according to the new scheme well, accordingly, this means that for the transition period, so to speak, this hole will slightly increase how you see the situation. look at what the minister said, he counted the income from our partners, namely from the united states, the european union, the international monetary fund, not as covering the budget gap as financing the deficit, but as the income allegedly received by ukraine from taxation is laundered, in fact the situation is such that the real deficit is not uah 5 billion. unfortunately, it is approximately usd 5 billion

per month, and by the end of the year it may increase, well, significantly, that is why it is really very difficult to achieve the goal of the ministry of finance in general it is very difficult to make a realistic budget. first of all, we need to answer whether we are already at the very bottom from the invasion of the russian army or is there still room to fall. yes, it is my belief that we have reached the bottom and the economy will continue to fall. it will not be. more if there are at least any adequate actions from the side of the government, namely conducting where regulation, simplification of taxation, reduction of the bureaucracy

is radical, this is already an extraordinary and extraordinary measure, a radical reduction in the number of officials , and of which there are actually so many . - and to organize other, er, some large-scale projects, and officials, how many were there, how many were left, or did the salary win? so, yes, so, hmm, if dana is correct answer well, i hope somewhere yellow, we get a more or less adequate budget, and there will of course be a terrible figure - this is a deficit that must be financed if the war does not end by our partners, i repeat now, the real deficit is

5 billion per month, that is, we have a collection of each 5 billion dollars per month in the hryvnia, and our western partners finance approximately 3.5 billion of the rest , and the mission of the hryvnia is progressing, and that is why we see such terrible inflation and such unfortunately, the tendency to weaken the hryvnia well, this is the reality of oleksandr, there was, let's say, a certain discourse between the ministry of finance and the national bank of ukraine about what to do with the hryvnia in particular, or to print more of it in order to patch holes on the go, but in the long run it only burdens our financial and economic system. how long can we continue to use this

mechanism in order not to find ourselves at the point of no return, see the issue, this is a normal financial monitoring tool, all countries always use it, the question of size and mission is when it should be done when it should not be done well, look, if our expenses per month are less than we collect income, including help from our partners, and the difference is about a billion 1.5 billion dollars, if translated into hryvnias, it is about 40-50-60 billion uah. so if the ministry of finance together with the national bank does not create this additional money through the mechanism of the odp, then they will not finance the military pension programs, and therefore

even a good life must be issued, that is, it is a necessity. of course, there is an alternative, which i already mentioned in your program is a cost reduction for our official apparatus, i repeat, everything has become smaller and the economy has become smaller by 33% now, and the state government, as it was, salaries have become even more. but we are glad that the stamp was issued, and there is another stamp there , eh. so, you know that the income from the issuance of this stamp they cover the entire salary of the management of ukrposhta for two months, this is a state official whose salary is about one million hryvnias every month. well, this is an abnormal situation. yes, i would

like the income from the issue of stamps to go to our armed forces, so the purchase of new equipment. weapons for the production of weapons, and so they go to the salaries of officials, and so on, aid to the nuclear power plant, which mainly goes to the salaries of officials of our budget, we are now talking about the salaries of officials, well, look, it is very difficult to calculate, but i will say that we have there is a reserve of a monthly reduction in the salaries of not only officials, but also all those who work in the public sector, in the public sector, this is somewhere in the potential of uah 25-30 billion per month, this is a lot of money, and it

was possible not to print it, to print it, and then it would be less inflation and less devaluation, this is one step. well, the minister of finance has already taken a small step forward. he said that next year we will reduce the costs of maintaining all ministries by 10%. more - there is almost nothing there, there is a secondment, the salaries of the officials are there, and the specified functions are there. so, uh, but this is a small step, let's indicate with our public opinion that 10 is not enough. 10 is not enough. let's do 20-25, because honestly, no i can understand what and what part of our state money we are talking about now. well, that is,

how much is it, how much money is it, in order for you to understand, you need to calculate everything as a percentage of gdp, you understand, yes, here is our gdp last year, it was somewhere around 200 billion dollars this year, there will be approximately 100 billion in dollars two times less , so when i say that it is possible to reduce budget expenses due to saving salaries of officials and employees of the public sector, then we are talking about half a billion a month, well 6 billion e-e per year in dollars if we count why it is difficult to say this in the game now because the exchange rate is changing these proportions of the violation and that is why it is so difficult to understand this first next year there was less

inflation which is also planned to be quite scary and less devaluation to find hryvnias the second real step, we do not agree that this is a real step and it is an important step, but still, i think that it is unlikely to be sufficient or decisive for the stabilization of the internal economic situation in the state, accordingly, we are offered a 10-10 reform we understand that everything sounds smooth in words, but on the other hand, we understand that our budget was drawn up based on a different tax logic and, accordingly, the worst can be the transitional moment, and here we trust, of course, both our internal ukrainian experts and external experts, in particular, representatives of donor states in particular of the same european union at the moment. they are somehow

tired. i will evaluate a similar initiative, how do you evaluate it? well, i will say that they are sluggish because they are not good because they are not prepared enough, they are not professional enough. non-radical, on the one hand, it does not contain anything, and on the other hand, it contradicts our agreements with the european union. well, for example, an absurd idea, absolutely absurd and unprofessional, is to reduce vat to 10%. do you know why? because the costs of administering this tax are colossal. the nature of this tax is that all of us ukrainians who buy something or a service, whether it's gas or gas, pay 20% of the value-added tax vat

and then the oligarchs give it to me. they took it. vat compensation there is an effective compensation about it a lot of people said earlier that it is real, but the fact remains that only big businessmen can get money with a budget, small businessmen never get anything, they stand at the end of the queue and, in principle, it is not realistic if it is to get it, so according to the convention, 15% vat is minimal, minimal vat and i, as an economist, will say that it is absurd to propose such things, it is better to completely abandon the value-added tax and switch to 5%, and to reduce the sales tax no, no official is needed, no official is needed for administration

he is free of this tax and that is why i would not discuss this concept. now it is weak, very weak, insufficiently radical . and when i hear such numbers, they are beautiful 10 10 yes vat-10 on income 10 on profit 10 you know maps create a picture so that we are real real what changes i have my own taxation system but i understand what to say about it now it is unrealistic to talk about realistically i what can save us is a very unexpected step

that i am proposing in your broadcast. i have probably already said it, now i will say it again. i propose that part of the aid from our international partners in the amount of a small amount of 3.5 billion dollars go outside the budget to our accounts with you for $100 rooms of $100 and imagine what it will be, it will be, this may already be a turning point in our economic decline. we will start to grow. why do low-income ukrainians receive money? right now, the minimum pension is 2,000, and $100 is already 4,000 uah. imagine the income there will be more than five betrayals of pensioners, and there

will be more stimulation of the revival of small businesses that will sell goods, provide services, repair what should be done after the rush of this rush? a certain amount of money goes into the budget of economic transactions, and because of the tax, the additional value of vat is needed , and will the income tax on salaries and the budget start to come to life? they will exchange them for dollars, that is, the supply of dollars will be very high and the dollar will start to fall a little, and the hryvnia will rise, that is, such

a step and inflation will be much less because of the revaluation of the hryvnia, the strengthening of the hryvnia will lead to a decrease in the rate of inflation, this is an innovative step and not we need no governments, no regulations, no bureaucrats, budgets, give ukrainians 100 dollars for each ukrainian, the rich will transfer these funds, uh, many economists would consider this idea somewhat utopian it's a great pity that our conversation time has run out, oleksandr, thank you for this innovative approach to the situation of economists who only read newspapers, well, let's continue with informational property value

. well, it comes through individuals, i also remind you that joseph biden is asking congress to allocate another 11th of and 11th billion and 700 million for ukraine, the administration is asking congress to praise the allocation of additional assistance in the field of security and economy and 2 billion dollars to help strengthen domestic supplies of energy carriers to compensate for the impact of the war on the world energy market, mr. biden can immediately write down my account i do not mind personally to my card how do they say help from our donors came as suggested by mr. savchenko, we are taking a step further and on our broadcast, the bbc film is for your attention dear tv viewers, the film of our colleagues from the bbc is dedicated to the tragic fate of the children of mariupol