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[000:00:00;00] there is no such side regarding the arrival of their employees to the deer park. i will clarify here about the un, there was a statement that they are ready to send their investigative team to the deer park, is that correct? i understand that there is still no response from russia on such a proposal of theirs, so publicly, the russian federation declares that it is creating conditions for the arrival of this un mission, in fact, it does not happen at all at the united nations organization, there are many questions , in my opinion, the organization was created as a result of the second world war in order to the third world war never took place and so that no country could start its aggressive policy there or if it starts, there was a very harsh and quick reaction, in fact, what we see is that it does not cope with any challenges , what was the reaction in 2014, well, in fact,
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none of the inherent and this, in my opinion, led to the fact that on february 20, the fourth in the year 22, the russian federation began a new stage of this war, a large-scale offensive, again, what was the reaction of the united nations, well apart from deep concern, there is probably no inherent concern for you to understand and for our viewers to understand. at the moment, we have a permanent monitoring mission of the un in ukraine based on the structure of the un. this structure has been working in our country for a long time. a separate mission was created on the basis of a decision of the un general assembly voted in april. regarding the collection of evidence of war crimes committed by the russian federation on the territory of ukraine i met with them separately for the third time as soon as the information about the deer appeared, we are official as the ukrainian authorities, i as
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ombudsman, we turned to the united nations as a result of the launch of the third mission to investigate the events of the volyn region when we showed the whole world that the russian federation is not stopping and is moving on. the un regarding the investigation of what is happening at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant , i have a rhetorical question for the hotelier who came to ukraine yesterday, how much more is needed to launch missions so that you actually start acting, well, 100-200,000 at the time when you and i are recording this interview, mr. gotyarish is in odessa, and i wanted to clarify whether he might have expressed a desire to go to the occupied territory in the same deer park and directly in this way, to find out what happened there, as far as i know
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, he was on such a proposal. he did not get up. the only information is that allegedly just during the conversation with our president volodymyr sench zelenskyi and with the president of turkey, because the panadogan sounded. the information that allegedly the designated head of this mission who must come to the deer park more than three weeks have passed since the explosion in the deer park, can we already operate with any specific figures regarding who died there and how many of these dead people were given, since certain lists were declared in open sources, some azov residents said that they partially confirmed what is your information here, let's say yes, it is officially confirmed, we do not have the information, again , how should we get it, we applied as i said i officially applied we appealed to
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the aggressor country through various a-a channels of communication to provide lists of real lists of the dead and wounded. we have no official answers. we appealed to the international committee of the red cross, which, not based on the geneva convention, should also receive any information from the russian federation. just the procedure for verifying these lists should be confirmed to us by the international committee of the red cross, there is no answer, the answer is that russia also does not provide them with any information, so in legal language i i can tell you that at the moment we do not have confirmed lists of the dead and wounded in relation to those lists that hmm exist and were made public by the mass media of the russian federation , we really have reasons to believe that they are not entirely true, this is also due to communication with relatives of prisoners of war and they themselves
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conducted an analysis of these lists, a lot of things match , therefore, based on this evidence, we can say that there is no trust or there is 100% confirmation that these lists are real, as in this year, regarding where and in which the defenders of mariupol who were captured by the russians are in the conditions. well , our intelligence agencies primarily work through different channels. which we receive, we can say it is true or false, but in fact we know almost everything that happens in the temporarily occupied territory .
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are held, but the general picture in what conditions. how do they relate to what happens with the admission of international partners? we all know the conditions are terrible . we have confirmed facts that more than 50 people are held in a 3x4 room, and it is 12 m². that is , you cannot even sit down there. torture is used en masse. it is not allowed. the international committee of the red cross looks at her precisely so that internationalists do not see the traces of torture from such a terrible attitude. they are simply not allowed by all these facts. in addition to checking, they generalizations are opened, criminal proceedings are established, specific names of servicemen of the russian federation are established. believe me , all this becomes such an additional argument for opening a separate criminal court, a separate
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tribunal, which must condemn all actions not only of specific servicemen of the russian federation, but also the leadership of this country who gave the order, the information appeared literally before that how you and i met from intelligence that on independence day the russians may be preparing a public trial in mariupol over part of those defenders in mariupol who are there and well, the intelligence forecasts are very scary. that the russians can launch a missile attack on this place. can we somehow help in this? well, regarding what will happen in mariupol, we really have data that it is possible by the way, once again, based on these facts, i turned to the russian side, i can also say that i officially turned to mrs. maskalkova to
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intervene in the situation, if she is an ombudsman, she should respond to all these challenges and prevent repeated violation of the geneva convention. it is clear that according to the first answers. or rather, the lack of an answer. i understand that there are no such great chances to hope. but nevertheless, we do it in the same way. we appeal once again to fix this next violation of the geneva conventions, another war crime on the part of the russian federation, so that the fixing took place both by the organization of the united nations and by the international committee of the red cross. i think that they will create this picture, they are interested in it, it is necessary to ask about it supporting this war against ukraine. how to do it, you need to show that you are real, not
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ephemeral, some nazis, fascists, who are fighting against the russian- speaking people of donbass. look at them. they are terrible. how many atrocities have they done and now we are judging them here? in fact, this is their main goal, i don't think that any rocket will fly there. at least i rate such a possibility as very low. because they need to show a picture, this is the picture they will create. it is clear that this is also additional pressure on the leadership of our country that we let's do this with your military personnel , or sit down at the table and discuss the information you have on the account of the captured defenders of mariupol . a few days ago, denis prokopenko's wife , kateryna, said in an interview with the public that according to her information, her husband was taken to russia, but she does not have any confirmation regarding this, neither from the state structures of ukraine, nor from the international
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committee of the red cross. can you confirm this information, why, again, we cannot confirm the information that he was taken out and we can to confirm the information that he was not taken out again eh hmm confirmation of the information regarding the detention of a specific serviceman and as a group of servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine takes place through the international committee of the red cross when a question is asked separately by surnames, for example, when i contact the internationals, they tell me that we thank you received but found information we cannot inform you, we only inform relatives and here kateryna prokopenko complains that the international committee of the red cross on account what is not in contact with her and she is not alone in this. i understand from your words that we rely a lot on the international committee of the red cross, but it looks
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like they are working as well. the mandate that is already prescribed in the nevsky convention is the only thing we have, i will say that this is a claim not a claim, but this is a real situation, but a real situation, for example, when i talk to them, i say well, then in your reports and publicly show that the russian side does not do you even allow this? what concerns the ukrainian side? you can check the state of compliance there with the conditions of keeping russian prisoners of war. here in ukraine they say yes, i say you have problems with this. no , i say, then if ukraine creates all the conditions for russian prisoners of war for you, you can come at any time to check their condition there, compliance with health conditions, keeping food , anything, why, then, in the same way, you do not demand the
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same conditions from the russian side, they say we demand i say yes, but there are no results in that, and the point is that apart from extortion, we do not see any progress there. but nevertheless, i can say that we will receive 10% of the requests, we receive a positive response but even if we raise a global issue and if someone thinks that the international committee of the red cross is not doing anything there at all, let's refuse their services, then he can tell you what we will automatically do for our e-e citizens who are on the territory of the russian federation there on the territory of temporarily occupied ukraine, therefore, first of all, we must understand this, record it, demand that they legally, it is the international committee of the red cross , legally record this attitude of the russian
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federation to the implementation of the geneva conventions and raise this issue for consideration at the site of the united nations, in my opinion , what can and affects the position of the russian side, this is the first position of the un, and in my opinion, they do not want to raise the issue of, for example, removing them from the united nations, and the friend is armed forces of ukraine, together with the help of our partners , i separately want to talk to you about a topic that seems to me close to you, as it is not long ago, deputy, but i do not know how this topic is close to you now, in which shift ukraine will be a candidate for membership in the european union, etc. this is potential membership, it specifically provides that ukraine should change its legislation regarding national communities, eh, you are the author of the draft law, which as of last year was ready regarding national communities, meanwhile, a year has passed, it is still
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has not been adopted, but such a request from the eu is a year after the moment when the president announced this bill and after the start of the full-scale invasion, you can see that this bill has to undergo some more changes, its development took a long time and is still ongoing, i started this work in the 20th year, it is already ongoing two years, but in july it was like two years when i was elected. i transferred all my achievements to the members of the specialized committee. i participate in the working group already as an ombudsman of our state. i see how quickly the work is progressing and i i am sure that this year, either in the first reading or in general, we will adopt this draft law , the most important thing. why the work is taking so long is because i approached it with the principle that before
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even registering the draft law, it should be discussed with representatives of national communities , especially with those who are constantly criticizes ukraine's position that they are not consulted on this, first of all, referring to the representatives of the hungarian national community. i personally went to zakarpattia several times and met with them there several times met in kyiv, that's why the process is quite difficult, let's say so. but nevertheless, from my point of view, we took into account fundamental things, and this is the creation of a separate state body, the creation at the level of the law, this creation of a public council under this body is the creation of the same of the councils themselves at local local self-government bodies , this is a separate term in the budget of ukraine regarding the support of programs of representatives of national communities, this is the
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creation of houses of national communities in all regions and separately in places of their compact accommodation, that is, we have a lot of new things, real things that they need, and there in their lives, we did, did you mention, did you mention the hungarians ? it is a spicy question now, in the conditions of a full-scale war between russia and ukraine, what will happen to the russian community in ukraine, which, if you believe the census from 2001, well, one of the most numerous, firstly, everything changed dramatically in 2014, secondly, it changed even more dramatically 24 february this year i know a lot representatives of this national minority who , in principle, from february 24 switched to communicating in the ukrainian language even in their personal life.
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believe me, this problem does not actually exist, this problem only exists in the propaganda stories of the russian federation, and in fact they fall under the influence of this law, if it is advertised, we make reservations in the law regarding the country aggressor, this will be done separately, that is, there will be some smaller list of possibilities for them, according to this law, there will be a warning about possible use, for example symbols of the aggressor country. that is, we understand in any case that because of what did not just happen, but because of what has been going on for more than 8 years, namely the war on the part of the russian federation, we must make such safeguards that will not allow the aggressor country to additionally use the subject of national communities against our state, so i think that there will definitely be a consensus here both among
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national communities and among people's deputies who will have to vote for it, the main problem from the point of view of the representatives of of individual national communities, this is the language of learning. and i always speak before our international partners, in front of representatives of national communities , i show the position of our state. i speak greek, that i, as a citizen of ukraine, this is the most important thing i should demand from the state of ukraine, this is the creation of conditions for teaching the language of national minorities and definitely the state language in ukraine, for example, in a city of compact living, well, this is the donetsk region,
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conditions were created when children definitely study from the first to the 11th grade in the ukrainian language, and conditions are created for the opening of greek classes, textbooks are printed in greek at the expense of the state budget of ukraine, salaries are paid to greek teachers language at the expense of the state budget of ukraine, filling repairs are made at the expense of local self-government. therefore, the state creates conditions when a representative of a national minority there studying greek in ukrainian, but has a desire to learn greek as well, the state has created all the conditions for what is happening in our country with russian, before the full-scale war, there was an opportunity to choose russian as a second terrestrial language to study it, again , there were no transitions - this will remain in approximately in such a way that we are now on the path of russification, and in education it is also
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in russian, as i said. this will be a warning against the aggressor country, again with all due respect to everyone, but we cannot do this to do because it is always a language issue, it was always used in our country for political points, you know, we were constantly divided as the elections will not come, who all only talk about the language , there are no more problems, this is rhetorical, you know , so i will give an example of the russian and hungarian national minorities, that is, i think and all international partners absolutely support logical behavior when in ukraine in a ukrainian school citizens of ukraine study in the ukrainian language, nothing cuts ears next to this the state of ukraine is creating the conditions when the representatives of the
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hungarian national machine will learn to learn the hungarian language, but in parallel. and now, as the vision demands from us at the beginning, at least the representatives of the hungarian munschyna want that in ukraine, at the expense of the state budget of ukraine , in the ukrainian school, citizens ukrainians studied exclusively in hungarian. please tell me, if we are talking about mirror parity, can i imagine, for example, when in hungary hungarian citizens in hungarian schools exclusively can learn the ukrainian language, then i can tell you that there is no such thing in principle, the children of representatives of our diaspora study there in sunday schools and they are financed, as a rule, from a charity account, so one more question , literally, you mentioned that you are a
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representative of the greek community, really it so happened that the place of compact residence of the greek community in ukraine is mariupol, which is now occupied. in addition, we have a specific situation with the uroms, who for example lived in melitopol, which is now also temporarily occupied. what happened to these people? did they evacuate? are they staying there or is there any? well, i don’t know any separate communication regarding them, in particular with greece, for example, maybe greece is helping in some way. yes , there is certainly communication. those who wanted to leave , they left. many of them are now in greece . greece has created the conditions for accepting representatives and accepting citizens of ukraine who have greek roots, so to speak, as it does, and there are a lot of countries that are sincerely rooting for us
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. someone has stayed temporarily. of the occupied territory and such cases. we have it again. it probably does not depend on nationality, on belonging to this or that national community, it certainly depends on making a personal decision whether to leave or stay in the occupation. touch on a topic that , in my opinion, has not been fully discussed, this is the dismissal of your predecessor lyudmila denisova, and here you will have questions not only as a current boatswain, but also as, until recently, a deputy of the verkhovna rada council and in particular the initiator of the resolution of no confidence in lyudmila denisova, tell me your version of the understanding of the situation for which you and your colleagues fired lyudmila denisova, well, first of all, legally , i have the initiators, the initiators, there were
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a certain number of people's deputies who collected letters regarding the expression of no confidence in the current abytsman, legal, these letters, through a submission, went to our committee, the profile committee, we held a separate meeting where i invited lyudmila leontieva denisova to give an explanation, we a-a unanimously we made a decision in the committee, we did not vote either for or against such an initiative, we voted unanimously for the fact that if the people's deputies withdrew from such an initiative, let the ukrainian parliament decide whether it will support such an initiative or not, i can officially tell you that it is not a secret when it was voting in the session
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hall, i pressed the yellow button in the legal sense. i did not fire anyone. the deputies assumed that the facts that were publicly disclosed by lyudmila leontyeva did not find their official confirmation, well, about the sexual crimes of russian soldiers against ukrainian children, there was also a claim that since the full-scale offensive of the russian federation on the 24th, most of the time i did not check this information this is according to the people 's deputies, most of the time she was abroad. and according to the people's deputies, the ombudsman should be inside the country, again, for example, i share this point of view and all the time i in general, to be exclusively in our state, the
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remark was addressed to all the deputies who voted for this dismissal, this remark was made in particular by the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights that among the requirements of the legislation for the dismissal of a butsman, there is no such thing as an expression of no confidence, that is, in fact, she was dismissed e-e in violation of ukrainian legislation and we have a profile e-e law e-law the law on the powers of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on human rights and we have a separate law regarding the maintenance of martial law in ukraine , changes were made there, where regulations were introduced regarding the possibility for the ukrainian parliaments of those heads of institutions appointed by the parliament to introduce a new procedure for expressing no confidence in it from a legal point of view on one law, indeed, this is so
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. - another draft law has a procedure for dismissal , therefore, in this sense, conclusions should be given by the ukrainian court, if as far as i know, the same head of the ukrainian helsinki union declared that he would help ms. denisova if she were to apply to the court, she already stated that she plans to, i do not know whether they applied or not, but again, it is the choice of each of us whether to apply or not , explained ms. denisova, who raised questions the deputies then somehow investigate these sexual crimes. this is a question of whether she really misinformed society, then there are already some results. only the
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ukrainian court can say whether it is guilt or not. i am not saying it is true or false. i am saying. at the moment, i am doing everything to ensure that all the facts are officially confirmed. we will wait for the results of this investigation . disappeared today at 9:30 p.m. to the attention of the officials who are over the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine, how not to become a collaborator, leave the occupied territory and take your relatives, if this is not possible, inform the management about your situation, avoid contact with the occupiers, securely hide documents that may interest
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the occupiers or may harm you, do not participate in any meetings organized by the occupying authorities , do not sign any petitions from the aggressor, do not agree to work in the official bodies of the occupiers, do not provide other assistance to the occupiers , take care of yourself and your relatives everything will be ukraine more than 100 talented sportsmen and sportswomen more than 100 famous ukrainian men and women their
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lives were taken by russia we honor each and every one for the sake of your memory, angels of sports, angels of ukraine from the phone, imaginations, a remarkable woman gave birth at the age of 14, she was started by herself, panic begins but all the same, she drove like heroes, i don't understand at all how she was able to touch so many dogs, five cats, a hamster -chameleon spider and some other fish even at this intersection we were fired upon, he began to lose consciousness very much, hope that he is alive from
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