who was the prime minister, whose government has now been demolished by the fiala government, and those communists whom i will remind you were in fact in all governments. after the velvet spring , we saw in the territory, that is, there are such things that speculate on internal problems there are problems there, let me remind our viewers that even ukrainians were not very ready to support, for example, the sanctions against serbia, not everyone saw the 196 people's deputies voted for the fact that georgia was the aggressor in 2008, and it disintegrated. also speculated on the internal order to him, where we said that we and georgia see a tariff genocide, that's why there are those speculators inside the czech republic who are trying to convert this kind of dissatisfaction into a return to corruption from the facades of the prime minister, that's why there is an internal agenda well, the fact that president orban has become contagious is if urban to some extent trades his right to report

, well, such a conditional veto in european unity and gets himself cheap, cheaper oil, cheaper gas, well, of course, he does not give, having still offshore of his relations with mr. putin, directly receiving money directly into his pocket, it is obvious that the same person who was the prime minister of the czech republic also wants to return in order to keep dividends from the kremlin by speculating on internal problems, so to some extent anti-ukrainian rhetoric was not the main thing, the main thing was inflation, dissatisfaction with prices, which are growing not only in the czech republic, but also in europe. well, there will be speculators. a clear statement of problems is half the solution, which is not sanctions against russia, but russia itself, which dictates,

tries to dictate such conditions for the whole world, setting red lines that we want , that we wanted since those times ago, it is the main problem, that's why we hear the already articulated rhetoric of the same sun, if you ask me about europe, then you have to talk about the leaders in european unity - these are germany and france, scholz also says that it is not six that we have problems, but we will stand dedicated to supporting ukraine until the end, and the end of the victory is an extremely important moment. i agree with you, mr. valery, on the other hand, we understand how difficult it was to introduce a strengthened visa regime for russians in general, when the question arose of the general cancellation of the opportunity for russian citizens to visit the european union, as they say opinions were extremely divided, mr. sharingovsky, in your opinion. and what does this actually mean? it’s not a question, so to

speak. well, of some good slogans, it’s a question, yes. of the so-called reality of politics eh what exactly did i not understand excuse the question eh extremely strong fluctuations in relation to the so-called visa regime with the russian federation, more precisely the ban on the entry of russian citizens, this is not only the role of politicians, it is also practical politics because a- and this is what was raised let's say so by our neighbors in the eastern countries of eastern europe, since all kinds of tourist routes of the russians pass through them first, and in particular, there was a fear that the russians have a very large number of places, and also many of them are long-term and the question of whether this free regime will allow, let's say, certain speculators there or different

supporters of pro-russian policy to freely lick like this for the countries is a certain heaven, what they have been talking about since the year we see the country that raised this calmer rhetoric, that in some countries tourism is quite important , so that they tried to provide certain dividends in this way more and more, so here, in fact, there is a real position of countries that are related to this issue and says that, in general, the position of militarism is tightened with respect to the fact that it is necessary to put these before one, hmm, before one link, so that's why we saw that these calls , for example, to ban it, the europeans were unable to do so. i think that one way or another, at least from those debates which we have seen. yes, this issue will continue to be debated. that is, we will see again different pressures and, most likely,

such a complete ban. well, i am at least skeptical. i was skeptical. what will be a complete ban? and i still remain with the german one , and this does not prevent individual countries of the schengen agreement from making tougher decisions, and this is where our energy should be directed, mr. dmytro, for ukraine, for example , a complete ban on russian citizens entering the european union is it a plus or a minus, it would be a big question, yes, in general, this is absolutely the right step, it is a very symbolic step, which would show many russians that look, not everything is not, everything is fine , that is, you can close your eyes and imagine that you are in a pink world where it is full of some strange animals but nevertheless it is not good you are responsible for the policy made by your state even if you call that you are political and this is also one of the

political elections these citizens are responsible for this and on the other hand uh, will it be possible to change something in this way, well, we see a big question. even if these statistics are very inflated, uh, in russia, uh, nevertheless, all polls show that russians are ready to tolerate uh, any troubles, that russians are ready to continue to support the majority of putin, and on the other hand, the russian government did not really prevent its citizens from fleeing. who wanted to do this, that is why , in my opinion, this will not lead to any such large-scale transformations. but nevertheless, this there will be one additional symbolic and important reminder that not everything is fine and everyone understands this perfectly, well, accordingly, a symmetrical question to you, mr. valery, i.e. the cancellation or complete ban of russian citizens from entering the european union is somehow weakened putin's regime, well, you know, if in

ukraine they say good pigs, everything is good, then bad sheep, what kind of sheep are russia already turning into, er, everything will be bad, so it is clear that by itself, any moment that we discuss, which er, we will discuss in the future, you do not decide the role of sanctions or, let’s say, some other economic issues. and there is no connection from swifts by itself does not solve the problem, but all this is made up of that puzzle that already shows the roles of the cities of russia and it is with er, you know, there are still 7 months therefore on at any scientific conference, it claimed to be a country of civilization, i can talk about it for a long time as a philosopher. today, it has turned into a country of reservation, it is clear that this is a question in itself, do not solve it, but those russians who are used to, you know, earned in foreign countries and national companies to fly to milan on russian oil gas for a party, it is clear that

for them this issue has become painful to some extent, we see how their hysteria occurs in public and not only in public. and well, i wanted would you like to note that you know that before uh, let's say , look for the mote in the eyes of others, and they are there, it is clear that you need to remove the log from your own eye seven months ago, the ukrainian authorities talked about the fact that uh, you need to trade with russia, buy electricity gas, oil, and trade with it, and if it makes any difference, as they said, the main thing is that the street was paved with asphalt, which temple does it lead to, which hero will it be called today? we see in reality that the situation in ukraine is drastic has changed. accordingly, we can see how it is changing already thanks to our garbage. well, not ours . and all of our armed forces, boys and girls, and everything you want is

pissing people. partners, and that is why i did not believe that the european union would make a decision regarding a complete ban on entry, but first of all i told my colleague that this does not prohibit the creation of such a belt among the countries of the baltic states among the countries of the north of sweden and finland and the russians can and could go here, but i remind our viewers that they will not be able to fly there , that is, they will not be able to drive there, but they will not be able to fly there, they have a logistical vision through abu dhabi, or maybe through istanbul a-a but that’s already e for very few russians, it is possible, so i think that this also turns russia into a country to a certain extent , and somehow it also contributes to this, well, let's say the coffers of our common anti-russian victory, that's why i think such a things are very important once again

i emphasize that even months ago in ukraine, the authorities and many citizens were not ready for this kind of thing, now we see that even uh, let's say good russians there, some kind of passport causes a serious scandal in ukrainian society, and accordingly the authorities must react to it. that is, we are already practically russians were banned from entering here, and we want them to do it immediately. other countries did it. well, it doesn't happen that way, but the european union is doing serious things because the visa regime is becoming more complicated. it has become more expensive, from 75 to 80 euros. this is a sanitary belt. there are a lot of european citizens who do not want to see these borders. well, let's say arrogant russians, who remember the words of medvedev's son, who himself was in america and said that he became a pope and szazvaniya and did not go to america, that is,

we are already talking er, about visas for russians and not only to europe, what was the story of the russian diplomats who wanted to attend the un general assembly on september 12, if i'm not mistaken, did they get those visas with the rest of psheringovsky? i remember they didn't give it, that is, i can is not a renewed one function and well, i don’t see a continuation of this story , most likely it’s still hanging in the air, this question is really interesting to track and please, dear guests, for a short comment, after all, valeriy noted that certain shifts are taking place in our country, fundamentally, but also around our country very important things are happening, for example, in the republic of moldova , the president of moldova, sanda, literally on the second of september, visited gagauzia. and this is a region with a strong russian influence, felt by pro-russian moods there, she spoke about the need for the

unity of moldovan society and the struggle of ukrainians for freedom, she thanked us for the fact that we are fighting not only for our own sovereignty, but also for the sovereignty of moldova, and all this actually takes place against the background of her such a rhetorical confrontation with the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation lavrov ai ya i don't really know what's going on in moldova , it's our direct interest because it's a country that borders us and it's a country that knows what a russian enclave is in its composition, mr. cherenkovsky, moldova and we are moldova and russia federation, what is happening now? if you are short, you won't be able to do it in a short way. but nevertheless, if you make everything very simple and

narrow . it was perfectly well said that part of moldovan society sees the situation in a different way . they declare this, but they do not want to support european integration announcements, to convince them to keep them, and to tie it all together, on the other hand, to really face threats that have not disappeared without having sufficient resources, even to solve these threats with transnistria, whether or not some other potential separatisms which can be shaken, this is a big and very difficult task, so here we simply need to support ourselves as much as possible and move together well, on the other hand, thank you mr. valery briefly well, in short, the ancient greeks said

that the fate of the submissive leads the disobedient by force, in this case it is an objective law and it will not go anywhere, and transnistria will not go anywhere, rather than being together with moldova, moldova will not go anywhere and will be together with ukraine one way or another in the oikumen e-e european and european comedies well, finally, we see that russia, which claimed 7 months ago to draw red lines around the world and told nato to go away with its coins, i quote this bickering deputy the minister of foreign affairs is the gate of putin lavrov and so we see how she will get exactly the opposite consequences, although where they get results, she wants to consolidate the temporarily occupied territory, including transnistria, for herself, but we see that these hysterical things will even be brought up even earlier in general these issues were not raised by moldova, the fleet was sitting on a needle in the e-e through transnistria to the kremlin, today we already see that mrs. sandu and internal politics in moldova also understand everything very well, that's why

russia is torn not only in the far perimeters, but also in the nearest perimeter. russia is practically roaring along the entire spectrum, respectively, on the ironwork for transnistria of moldova, we see what is happening from the wind , and today you know, i will say the last thing. mountaineers in belarus , today i would take smolensk without a fuss, because russia no longer has the strength to hold even inside the situation. this is an extremely important moment. well, as they say, we'll see. so, will smolensk return to native port dmytro sherengovsky, an expert on international issues from the rector of the ukrainian catholic university, as well as valery dymov , a political expert, director of the center of social and information technologies, the forum, thank you for this comprehensive analysis, 11:45 a.m. espresso tv channel broadcast, the show is in full swing, khrystyna yatskiv and our next guests e- we are pleased to welcome on the air the

people's deputies of ukraine, liza yasko and maria ionova, with whom we will talk about the meeting of the committee on european integration. and what about the requirements of the european union for us as candidates for accession to the eu if guests are in contact with us, we will be happy to say hello congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, what about the meeting of the european integration committee mrs. maria, what exactly should we expect and how is the work going on now to fulfill those requirements we are nominated by the european union, i am asking everyone to congratulate mr. antin-khristyna, in fact, liza and i are members of the committee on foreign affairs, but of course we take care of and keep the issue of the euro and our european integration under control.

now, too, many such important topics have been raised, and you and i know how sensitive the issue of freedom of speech is for us, so we would just like to remind you that it is not easy. yes, since 2014, when the russian aggression began. we also had to implement reforms and we undertook the denationalization of tv channels, and now when, you know, there is such a full-scale war going on, it is very important for us to preserve what... principles that are also currently protecting ours the military is on the frontline against russian aggression, and these are really democratic democratic principles, and that's why we have obligations not only to the european union, but also, you know, to the

council of europe. and where did we start this denationalization of channels? we now have state channels and it's also very unfortunate. well, in fact, the decision of the committee on european integration on the law on media where we have , well, let's say that our ability to defend ourselves is being eroded. it is from the russian invasion in the information space that you and i understand how important is the information front, and it's a pity that it's so political, it was a decision of the monomajority and hmm, you know, there was no need to come up with uh, to introduce new norms where careers are being cleaned in relation to the russian language, because we we also know with you that putin is on his weaponry, yes, if the explanation is that he will liberate the russian-speaking people, because the russian-speaking population is being destroyed here, and genocide

is taking place, that's why i would really like to know how it is now actually from the beginning of a full-scale war, we as european solidarity know for sure that for the time being we are holding on to this unity, but as for the mass media, i would very much like it to be the same. but the journalistic community did not give any you know the reasons for this and no progress in the context of the protection of our ukrainian language as well, because it is already a matter of national security, and they have realized this since 2014, and during the time of recovery , so i would very much like that everything after all, we do they didn't allow me. i'm sure that the a-a fraction of the monomajority also has this understanding and there are also people who should defend it and were almost in the

minority a-a but again a-a mmm let's also understand what to keep state mass media , well, it’s very expensive and we already have e-e channels of some kind, but the problem is not even that it’s expensive, but whether they become a tool for lobbying specific political interests of this or that pro-government force, the main task of creating of public or state broadcasters consisted precisely in therefore, so that they are equally close to all political forces and there is a question, er, ms. yasko, do you see the current situation now, yes, with the possible implementation of adequate changes to the law on media voted in the first reading. once again, i congratulate everyone, i would like to remind all ukrainians that the overwhelming

majority of ukrainians support the european integration path of ukraine and support all the changes that we need more than 70% of our demands on us as a country, and the next thing that remains are political signals and a number of other demands that which we are currently working on, and i sincerely hope that by december, well, the entire package of obligations that we have assumed we will vote on what concerns the media law. i would not be so pessimistic here, but like my colleague, because i do not have there is no doubt that ukrainians will never tolerate any pro-russian content, uh , the media law really uh, uh, it causes a lot of discussion, and it emphasizes that it was voted only in the first reading, which version is final. we

still don't know how to submit amendments, we can continue uh, the term uh, of the important things, you and i, as ukrainian society, we will see who will be the beneficiary of uh, the media, we will see, uh, that some pro-russian blogger was not hiding behind a ukrainian journalist, and that is why it is important to introduce certain regulations in that including in the online sphere because we are a country that is suffering very much now from the fact that we did not regulate it before and we have some so-called figures who covered themselves and said that they were ukrainian journalists actually conducting a pro-russian campaign, but this is no longer the case this law will also be used to try exactly this, it is also important that it will not be possible to finance more media from offshore, for example, this is also very

important because we, as ukrainians, must know who is financing and where the money is coming from, it was possible before in fact, from some unknown countries , it is not known who the beneficiary would be , and in this way it was not always about ukrainian interests. interests i am also an optimist here, i am an optimist primarily because of the ukrainians and because of our ukrainian people, i am convinced that if suddenly there will be an accumulation of control er and some media will serve er, well straight monopolies monopoly should be kept only er there one political force , the ukrainians will know about it, and the

ukrainians know about it, they talk about it out loud, the only thing is that they do not allow, so to speak, to multiply something like this for some specific reasons. t2 networks is the history of one thing, that is, it is about this, that is, democracy is not built differently, that is, democracy is strong not only when certain mechanisms are strong. tv channel espresso is a normal tv channel well, you see, from t2 we were taken like this and somehow they suddenly threw us out, and not only us, well, in this case i am speaking strictly against tv channel espresso well , tv viewers know nothing they support us they ask us. well, but you understand. how does it work ? respond to father lisa and then to maria ivanova. i would like to respond in this way. i cannot

comment on why this is happening with respect to one or another channel. it is my personal position that opposition channels should exist, but it is important. the moment that we are in a state of war and there are really limitations and unfortunately we have to squeeze soups and go forward. it is important that our information policy is unified, but as soon as it is different from our information policy from, well, from the information policy that is currently set as a leitmotif and how it can contradict the interests of the ukrainian state. liz, here is our tv channel. you are joining. your colleagues are joining. we are always glad to see you. television, radio broadcasting, why is this happening , that is, the point is that we want to receive questions, not uh, answers to questions for more than one month, and we do not receive, nevertheless, if it has already been mentioned from yes yes

yes well, i would like to correct it because why? to change those norms that have already been successfully implemented, and you and i understand that, unfortunately , they have returned to some norms that worked under yanukovych during yanukovych's reign, and that is why it is very disturbing now what concerns the denationalization of channels like us now for some reason we see a representative of the collaborator kovalev, who also became unknown as the owner of the fourth channel. and he is now becoming state-owned, that is, the state is meant, that is, he died under some strange circumstances in the temporarily occupied territory this was a representative of a-a party in power, and therefore. to be honest, this is really another breach of obligations to the council of europe

, because a-a, in principle, such a decision. no one can buy a channel because they are doing it legally now, well, this is just a period when we have to be committed to those conditions, and before the european union, when the negotiations are to begin, and they are already serious. that is, we are taking such steps. i'm sorry, but it seems to me that the next the state channel is where the funds will be there will be representatives of the authorities or those who do not like them and those who do not criticize them. well, we see with you the same way that support for the single marathon is falling, because this is already the irritation of many ukrainians that there is still no such objectivity. and this is the government itself you will harm yourself, you understand that this will not bring popularity and trust will be lost during the war . well, actually, it is very dangerous, especially when we see this concentration of mass media in the hands of the authorities. but yes, if you and

i all understand democratic european principles - this is a sign of authoritarianism and not democracy, and it definitely will not bring us closer and does not bring us closer to the european union, and when you and i talk about what, for example, the council yes channel, 500 million have been allocated. and we have seen 1 billion for this channel on freedom and there is a balanced representation. and i am very sorry that you know that if we do not notice and respond to such things in a very timely manner, i am not talking about those petitions that were signed by people. does not see that is, these are all signals, and if so, the authorities think that they don’t see it anymore. well, they are very wrong. you are right that society will support our euro-atlantic aspirations. indeed , now a very high price is paid for us to

become part of the civilized world, but let's not forget that a lot depends on the government from the inside, and that's how it is. for example, daughter gran is where the government is during martial law. well, you know, playing around and implementing authoritarian norms is very dangerous . it is the undermining of national security from within the country and we should be aware of this, we should not be afraid to say it and point it out in order to stop such things in time, because we demand, i'm sorry , sanctions, increased sanctions from our allies, but we ourselves inside the country, well, we don't do it enough, and believe me, at many meetings, we hear the same thing for us, as for the country, for representations to the parliament, uh, well, such claims, and what concerns russian business in ukraine, i can tell you, this will be a separate topic of our

conversation with you. thank you very much, we have to pass it on now word, but i am sincerely grateful to you for taking part in this difficult discussion, in particular, i thank liza yasko and maria ionova, the people's deputies of ukraine, now there is a small pause in our broadcast, then the broadcast will pick up our colleagues, be from the press, the goal will be in 25 two 20 minutes 10 i want drive this scumbag out of our land 5 3 2 3 fire