it's true, it's not true, because very serious people and trade networks are under attack. this seems to me to be a discredit to the entire volunteer movement and the movement for receiving and providing humanitarian aid, mr. oleksandr . let's start with you, please. wrote a facebook post, it would be 389 wagons when we take out mercedes buses from the mercedes sprinter type in 2 tons and every time we try to prove something . the zaporizhia direction and to the east, and every time we came to the zaporizhia direction, i will tell you that the volunteers with whom we crossed paths very often raised this issue, that is, they very often said that they filed numerous complaints, i will not say that it was specific high-ranking officials, because this were ordinary people just as i am just an entrepreneur and have never participated in politics, that is, no, no good, you know what they gave me so-called

tips like people say so and so so so we ask you to check such and such volunteers from by specific names and surnames, i heard it many times, of course, it hurts terribly, and that is why, after the beginning of the full-scale invasion, i left my job, my business, which i was engaged in , and switched to volunteering, because in my opinion, then i was able to at least get some part of this help to redirect personally and put it in the right hands without relying on the authorities there or without coming across huge volunteer organizations like the red cross caritas and so on which on their own functioning on my private in my opinion, about half of all funds received are spent, yes, have you had such situations, oleksandr, that you brought aid and then somewhere it ended up on a shelf or not where it should be, well, we didn't have it for the simple reason that we always bring it in and we distribute it. that is, we came to some villages near kharkov, stood on the

street and distributed it to people on the street. or we come to khaba because we come to the church in some village council that we know. we transport ourselves around the district or to a neighboring district because, well, this is a humanitarian aid, like potatoes, such things. they are quite so heavy. well, there is no point in carrying them further, so it is easier to buy the same potatoes for the front line , for example, in the dnipro and bring them from there than logistically, we personally did not have the opportunity to deliver, only thanks to the fact that we are closed by a small group of entrepreneurs and deliver to the private population, but

we have encountered. and to the car dimensions, i will say that in the official notification of the nabu , you can read it on our website. counter-intelligence of the sbu engaged in the competition conducted more than 20 searches in zaporizhzhia, in particular, in the premises of the city council of the regional administration, warehouses and residential premises of possible persons involved in the crime, the authorized investigative action is carried out within the scope of the investigation into the fact of possible illegal appropriation of humanitarian aid, legalization of proceeds of crime and illegal enrichment of taras you know about this story and why a week has passed and somehow not even a breath from the lips well this well this is huge a scandal, as i suspect that it is possible that there may be a scheme regarding whitewashing, yes, we open a case, and we reported it, and then everything was closed. well, but if it is true, or if

it is true and they reported it, well, it is, well, it is, well, it is a big scandal, i agree, uh, i would introduce military time in general other norms and punishments for such things well, but this is my personal opinion, we will not be late to try and you know that i also want to emphasize that parallel to this, on the one hand, there are many cases and searches of volunteers in which, for example , i personally have no doubt that their integrity so in several such searches have been conducted in lviv, literally, these have also been conducted recently, on the contrary , other volunteers are also being searched, as was the case at the beginning of the war. we also know several high-profile cases, and here i already personally have a different opinion about whether these things really happened or no , also if we are talking about employees from the city of zaporizhzhia, here too i personally can see the work from the other side, but i am not a law enforcement officer like you, we are not an investigative body, we do not have any

real information about what happened embezzlement did not take place. is this some kind of scheme? is this some kind of fundraising to be used for other purposes? we have, at the same time , in the information space, commissioned cases or cases that, unfortunately, take place only on paper and do not have a real nature of the crime, and i am convinced that there is a parallel case that has the real basis, that is, the early investigative actions of the investigator are operational and this is all, and when we look at it all as a single picture. really a-a hm is engaged in such matters, and who is not , and from this society , this spirit, the volunteer spirit, is greatly pushed forward and significantly falls, because according to mr. oleksandr, it is not easy for everyone now, that is, the funds that we attracted at the beginning. if at the beginning of the war we did not manage to attract as organization of several hundreds of thousands of euros, now these sums are significantly reduced and are already in the hundreds of thousands of hryvnias. yes, even without taking into account this inflation. therefore, it

significantly affects us, and if this happens, then we must immediately attract people of responsibility and we cannot, our judicial system and law enforcement cannot work and how they worked during the war and before the war. engage in this sport fishing. that is, it must happen in fact very clearly and concretely, and even before the end, i will also quote our website from the press office. go in, read and watch we are informed there with a reference to the sbu that the sbu informs that during searches of officials of the zaporozhye city council, anatoliy kurtev, the mayor of the people's servants, he was the secretary of the city council, found similar substances in the city council, similar to narcotic drugs that are sent for examination. they will sniff there and obviously find out whether the drugs are illegal or not. firearms and ammunition for them are not registered. well, obviously there could be a war and the main thing is a large amount of cash. that is, there are the followers of this ihor zvarych, do you remember there was who said that in our country there is a tradition of sowing dollars

before entering the premises, probably those followers of his have settled there in zaporizhzhia, ihor, you will contact us, we will follow the development of this story, it is very important that the volunteer movement does not his reputation was not tarnished and these good intentions and people who do good holy work were not discredited. thank you, oleksandr chaban, the last question for you is taras khomenko, who says that the number of zeros in that aid has decreased significantly and your partners with whom you the same british people are working, do you feel a decrease in the number and number of people willing to help , the rivers of volunteer help are drying up here too we have never raised funds except for our own or our immediate acquaintances, we only received help in the form of bulletproof vests or any food products, that is, not financial help materially, but not financially, but if comparing the first days of the war, we sent approximately 4.6 full beads every week, now

we send one thank you for the information and for the fact that on our broadcast, we talked about these moments and problems. we hope that these moments will be changed by legislation. and volunteers will be able to go to ukraine and bring help here. of the regulatory hub we are going further with sandra krutevich, the sister of the chief of staff of the azov regiment, bohdan krutevich, and a member of the association of families of defenders of azovstalia , mrs. sandra, we congratulate you. good day. glory to ukraine . we read from the last that the family of the amazov people is still unknown, the fate of the prisoners of the village of olenivka in donetsk region, russia everything has not yet admitted international organizations to the colony, the head of the council of the wife of mother defenders of ukraine, women of steel natalya zarytska, military families call on the un to conduct an investigation of the terrorist attack on the temporarily occupied deer farm on july 29, it took place today

40 days ago and they also ask to exchange all the prisoners for all or to carry out their extradition to a third country before the end of hostilities . about the release of the azov steel boys from the azov steel, first of all, the azov men who were injured in the deer park, and we still don't know who died, we still haven't received the bodies, we still haven't received the boys who are now in after of this cynical terrorist attack in the deer park, they should have been returned home a long, long time ago, and we could have provided them with the normal medical care they need, so they will not provide it there. of course, we are also appealing to international organizations to the world influenced and helped us

to return our boys and, first of all, the boys who are now affected are from volyn and they are all from azov, that is more than 200 people. that is, you, they should already be in ukraine and not wait for someone to come there and pay attention to them sandra something and they told you any information for these 40 days to the representatives of the families about what happened there and what is happening with your relatives. well, in principle, no one can tell us because no one has gone there so far , and the ukrainian side would like to come there, but the red cross cannot come there without permission, the red cross can provide information to our state, provide information to relatives, and give lists of who is wounded and who is dead, and we still don't know today - exactly 40 days since the cynical murder and torture of the boys, and there is still no answer to those questions which we have

we haven't seen anyone yet. we can't even understand who died, who was there, who was injured, and who is in what condition. we don't even know about the commanders, no information at all, from the moment they came out, and after that, no one from the relatives knows where the commanders are . what happened to them, whether they were alive or not, the people of volyn should give us information about this, and answer all these questions first of all , including the red cross and the un. well, the families of the soldiers are calling on the un to conduct an investigation as far as you know what happened in the fawn of this terrorist attack so much you hope that this organization will be able to conduct some kind of investigation ah well, first of all, we created a petition . i ask that it be distributed as well in mass media so that people, first of

all, ukrainians, and us anyway more than 40 million, and i don't think it will be very difficult for the un to finally create a monitoring group that would er not only er check who was there tired of everyone the people of azov, first of all, because torture is applied to them, they are killed, and i provided information to their families, where they are, in what condition, and finally returned and controlled the attitude that is applied to them there, they are kept in isolation, no one knows i will tell you more, even those people who are in uncontrolled territory and somehow try to transmit information here, even they cannot find out exactly where the azov people are located, there is no information about them at all, they are being held in strict isolation away from e-e, even those

prisoners of war who are now from other e-e units and no one gives any information, therefore, for this, a monitoring group is needed, and first of all, an international one that came there, collected all the information and would transfer it here to sandra , about a month and a half or two months ago, there was information that some of the azov residents were taken to russia. they are in the lefortovo prison in moscow. maybe you have some information about this, and maybe some russian official sources wrote something about it. later, you know, russian sources write a lot, but in order to find out whether it is true or not, there are international organizations, first of all, the red cross. for example, i did not see that the red cross made a request and asked not to i asked and already demanded permission from lefortov to check it to check whether there is a commander there and whether there are any soldiers there at all. there is no gold

because they were transported around the occupied territories of ukraine there, donetsk, donetsk oblast, luhansk oblast, on the mainland of russia - this is so and they were scattered a lot they are kept in isolation, i don't know how we will look for them, how we will collect them, and what needs to be done for this, there are international organizations for this, we need the world to be finally, how much can it be tolerated, sorry , how much can you kill, torture, how much can you look at it for why is all this being done, i just don’t understand that the ukrainian side of gurmov is engaged in the exchange of prisoners e-e do you have contact with them and what information do they have about russia if we were a third

country? i am 1000 percent sure that ukraine i would take on the obligation and enter as a mediator and find an opportunity to get other prisoners of war from other countries, so i simply do not understand why other countries look at this and do not help in any way. i have a very great desire and the hope that maybe she can help us now, for example, great britain has just won the elections and the new prime minister of great britain is elistrat. she has experience, i read the biography and they are experience in the prisoner of war agreement, if i am not mistaken, she is iran pulled out such serious prisoners of war, and i don't really remember the sentences of the iraqis, for example , that's why i think that there would be a desire, we will of course

apply and look for 100 more options how to do it , but uh, not only our desire, not only our uh appeals, well, they can help. we still need a lot of publicity and we need the help of the world. we have to return them as much as possible. they gave them a guarantee that they would return home in three months. the boys who left there told how the red cross entered the buses a and e said that you guys will live there for a month in the barracks there for a month, two or three months, everyone will return home, we still haven't returned even all the wounded, what are we talking about, there are almost thousands of people, only azovians, what can i say about all the others, i don't see during all this time, we returned them to azov, well, how long can we wait with the center? maybe

you had the last connection with your brother. i want to ask simply for the future of all journalists, all the time you say the last word for us, every word it's very important, so er, please be very kind once upon a time, i personally had contact with my brother on may 20, when he was still in azovstal. since then, i have been in contact with him, and i have no idea where he is, nor do other family commanders. we communicate constantly between we are looking for information. maybe someone came out somewhere. maybe there are lawyers because we have already involved international lawyers. maybe someone helped us find some information. so far, we don't have anything like that. what can ukrainians help you now by spreading information? sign the petition, so first of all, sign petition in the second step is to constantly spread, to demand from the

world to pay attention to the prisoners of war, and first of all, i repeat to the azov people, because they are like a bone in the throat in russia, in principle, they torture and kill them because they, well, this is an example of a ukrainian, they went there, volunteers there most of the people are just volunteers since the 14th year, they were not called up for service, they just went according to the call of the heart, uh, to save and protect their country, such as my brother, for example, who just took up arms without having any military skills before that, went to defend the state there, well, almost all the guys, well, i would say even all of them, because no one called them up, they went themselves and joined the azov regiment and on a voluntary basis, they knew very well how russia treats azov, and they knew very well that if something happened azov is the first priority,

well, we will get it, let's say that's why they must be returned first of all, and i have a very big request for everyone to constantly tell about this and not forget, because this information becomes publicity well, there are not many people like him anymore who does all this but a request to do it three times more constantly and today we are on the maidan, sorry, not on the maidan on sofiivska square at 8:00 p.m. just join thank you today 20:00 kyiv sofiivskyi maidan commemoration of the victims of the terrorist attack by the russians in the village

of olenivka in the occupied donetsk region this road thank you sandro sandra krutevych sister of the chief of staff bohdan krotevych's azov regiment well, the members of the association of the families of defenders of azov, who are now demanding the return of their own, appeal to all possible international associations and countries in the world. well, while the latest information from the ukrainian parliament is very important information, at the meeting of the servant of the people faction, they presented a new candidate for the head of the state property fund very unexpectedly, as for me , the candidacy for the position of the new head of the state property fund is claimed by a people's deputy from the fraction of the voice of the mayor, rustem, his candidacy were presented at the meeting of the faction, reported the spokeswoman of the political force, yuliya paliychuk, the voice of the people, rustem umerov was present at the nadvir faction, where he presented his vision of work as the head of the state property fund, according to the questions of the deputies, he became a member of the ukrainian delegation in negotiations with

russia, a delegate of the kurultay of the crimean tatar people , an adviser to the leader of the crimean tatar people mustafa dzhmilyeva and was his assistant consultant became a parliamentarian in the 19th year according to the list of the faction, the vote was accordingly interesting, unexpectedly, but then we we will talk about the affairs of the majority of the situation, it is important to multiply valery, dear, the military expert defense express should join the conversation, mr. valery. we congratulate you. good day. let's start with the deer. we talked with the relatives of the representatives of azov . in the deer park, well, the peculiarities of the terrorist attack , most of the experts and observers who, er, had the small er, data that characterized this

event, nevertheless, are inclined to the fact that in thermobaric munitions were detonated in the premises and it was a planned killing of the defenders of ukraine by the occupiers other versions of which were particularly voiced by the occupiers regarding the fact that it was a ukrainian strike or it was with the help of artillery systems, they are mostly quiet in nature, a sign that can be seen in the photo so that they get into the network or in angle shots, they do not match any signs characteristic of such strikes. therefore, after all,

one of the main versions is precisely is the use of thermobaric munitions, which is exactly what characterizes the consequences of this event, er, and well, the nature of the damage is very severe, and hm, what can we see, but still, er, i don't think there are any great alternatives that it was something else and than a purposeful action by the occupiers, an action of revenge against the defenders of ukraine, and what are these thermobaric missiles, well, in simple language, you can explain thermobaric ammunition - this is, uh, that's exactly the kind of thing that uh, well, many people have heard about such a voluminous explosion is when it is atomized

er, a sharp, identifying er substance is a gas, and then er, this gas quickly fills er a certain volume, and well, indoors, the use of this ammunition leaves no chance er for everyone who is in it after after that, as the gas fills the room, it is further blown up and it turns out that everything explodes, and everything that lives, well, this explosion most often leads to the lethal, detailed, lethal end, because the character of this explosion, it is not like the explosive tarpaulin of some kind substance er is a volumetric explosion that causes er

such a great pressure and er a person dies from barotrauma and burns p valery what is your assessment er of the current situation on the front of this military picture that in us with a counteroffensive to what extent. it depends on this that the occupiers abandon their plans for referendums. now , this picture that we see is still significantly different from what we observed in august , and at least if we analyze the official reports of the general staff of the armed forces in ukraine, we can see a qualitative increase in the number of e-e destroyed and occupiers and e-e. what is most important is the equipment of the occupiers and one of the important points is the e-e mass of destruction of artillery

systems. for example, here in today’s e-e report of the general staff on losses of the enemy, we are talking about the destruction of at least 22 artillery systems and two e-e rocket systems of salvo fire, well, this is precisely about the divisions of this equipment. in addition , every day we will receive a report about the destruction of 40 to 60 units of armored vehicles, well, if so rough to take that's up to two battalions of tactical groups and of course hmm, well, a very large number and this kind of result can only be achieved by such planned actions and thanks to the effective means obtained from our

partners we also heard about e-missiles e-e with laser guidance, we heard about e-e the same drones that can illuminate e-targets with a laser beam e-e and we heard about counter battery e-e stations and therefore at least it is possible to conclude that all this worked by creating a single shock-reconnaissance the contour currently requested, in particular, the ground forces are actively using it and not only in the south, because in the same loss reports it is clearly written that the enemy will suffer most of the losses in the donetsk direction, i.e. today 50,000 such a round e-e as they say the figure. how do you assess how objective it is? it can be more or less enemies. in principle, different observers make different estimates, and there are more

estimates, there are also fewer, and it should be noted that those estimates given by the general staff are most often justified because, as a rule, we are talking about confirmed losses and, in principle, they are close to the situation we have on the battlefield, well, in addition, it must be understood that these are only losses that i think that there are at least twice as many of those who were seriously wounded and cannot, will not be able to rejoin, and the so-called five hundred are those who refuse to continue with the military. actions on the territory of ukraine 50,000 + 1 according to ria novosti

in berdyansk, a car belonging to the so-called commandant of the city, gauleiter artem bardin, was blown up. it is reported that after that there was a shootout. this is what his car looks like after the explosion. later, according to information, rogov confirmed this - this is another occupier from melitopol already there instead of someone from ambalevsky, according to him bardin was hospitalized in serious condition. well, i think that after such an explosion, what we see there is hardly a chance of survival. he added that the explosion also damaged three civilian cars of people in there were none, the collaborator clarified that the sounds similar to gunfire that the residents of berdyansk heard after the explosion were the detonation of ammunition. this is what his car looks like. give it even lower from the back . here is your assessment. aga rogov accuses ukrainian defenders of blowing up martin's car. how do you assess the actions of the ukrainian partisans well , and ukrainian special forces in general well, maybe they are not in the occupied territories, how important is it, please, but you can summarize in a minute that

each of the collaborators, each of those who went to cooperation with the occupiers should know that kara will be inevitable. and it is precisely such actions that show the resistance of the population to the occupying authorities, which thought that everything would be quickly gathered to hold referendums , but in the conditions currently created in the south, in particular and uh, in the background of us counter offensive of the armed forces of ukraine uh, here are the plans of the occupiers in the rainbow, they uh, they go to dust, and now is the time for all those who went to cooperate with the collaborators to think about their future and uh, or run away of these temporarily occupied