the sole author of this draft law and at the moment uh, we are investigating it and illegal enrichment, and i think that the government is simply afraid of voting on this draft law, in the literal sense of the word, it attracts too much attention, and it is also completely idiotic the bill that regulates anti-corruption activities is registered on the committee that deals with regional development and urban planning. connected with these corrupt activities, he is not a member of the anti-corruption committee, does he want to do something, and why does the committee vote on this bill? why does the committee approve this bill? the bill passed through the committee, and i believe that the more we talk about, the less likely it

will be put to a vote on the agenda, and that there is another such bill he wants to initiate uh and against him and well, the opposition - this is something you can argue here, but the countries of the group of the big seven uh, they condemned the anti-corruption organizations, and i have a question here . are you sure that this is an initiative exclusively by andrii klochka, that is, he having he took up a legislative initiative and decided to write such a bill , could he still be the executor in this case, but it is absolutely obvious to me that this is not his own desire, because when a-a they improved the bill, i would have to say it to him brought in accordance with the constitution a-a more than an hour ago, about a year and a half ago, and that piece of paper, for some reason, the bill was voted through,

there were no problems, and considering that a-a there are a huge number of rumors that people's deputies from the party ot they don't even read all the draft laws that they vote on, and i strongly doubt that a person who is engaged in regional development and game development is suddenly not just worried about the future of national anti-corruption bureau and anti-corruption verticals and not just took care of the future of this, but decided to write a bill from scratch . - and to deal with the draft law for construction and regional development, well, you know , like if a doctor who deals with teeth suddenly decided to run, er, build a bridge across the dnieper

and that's how he can't live, it's necessary to build a bridge over the dnieper despite the fact that he's a doctor and he does teeth he will work on this particular bill. and who could it be the president's office, etc. why the president's office? they signed in black and white and promised all international institutions, donors , partners, allies that they would carry out an honest independent competition for the head of the nabu. you know, i'm just tired of saying the same thing over and over again. in the sense that you asked me. - these are the people in the president's entourage who work openly in the interests of the country of the aggressor, for example oleg

tatorov, that's all, that's the people all the time, strategically , they are constantly engaged in undermining ukrainian interests. people still haven't been sent to hell. i don't know. i don't have an answer. i'll just say for the sake of justice that we called andriy klitschko on the air in the press service, the servants of the people didn't answer us, they ignored this request. well, oleg tatarov. i always invite him to the air. doesn't get involved because we often mention him like this, look there was such an interesting statement from the anti-corruption center that they want to change the draft law in this way. is allowed listen, well, here i have a question, well, it looks like if this is really so, then it looks like there is a candidacy, and now it is necessary to prepare a law for it or not, it is absolutely true

because, well, why else would you want to put a-a requirements in the draft law that are also not so it is not a requirement that you cancel the rules that a person who will be a candidate for the head of the position of the head of nabu must not have a-a any political connection, that is, either work in the party a-a or be a member of the party, that is, it is naturally perfect it is logical that a-a in the law on nabu it is said that a person cannot apply for a-a head of nabu because we want an independent law enforcement officer and not another a-a member of the party, a servant of the people, who will lead everything that is only possible to lead, that is, we have a -a aa so the general prosecutors are all former deputies of the people, well, it is quite obvious because there are no more law enforcement officers in the country except deputies , servants of the people, logically, yes, a-a, they wanted to do the same thing a-a, with the elections at the head of the sap was a man from the prosecutor general's office, someone close to

the prosecutor general, and that's why now we want to lead us in this way, and this is a very wooden method, and we 're betting that no one will notice it. we are anti-corruption activists , how good is it that we have podslye seven a-a and how good that we have e-e channels that are ready to talk about it this is how we see a-a once again freedom of speech and democracy stand for the protection of the interests of the state why this is done by people from of the president's office a-a in order to prevent a-a aid from foreign partners that goes to ukraine but you know, these questions constantly come to mind ukraine is for the benefit of russia then everything is in

its place and then everything is understandable they will hold a competition for the head of the nabu , i don't know what your predictions are, they will break the record of the competition for the head of the sap, it seems to have lasted two years, well, look, i really don't know because, on the one hand, how would the government say that it wants, on the other hand, we have a draft bill i don't know how it will actually be, but again, once again, you and i see that if the process is watched by anti-corruption activists of the mass media and i lean towards the north, then we have a chance that everything will go well, thank you very much for your comment marksa savchuk, head of the public control council on buba on radio svoboda to zaporizhzhia through the only corridor in the south of ukraine from the territories temporarily occupied by russia. residents of these occupied regions continue to arrive in

zaporizhzhia every day. what these people told radio svoboda is very morally and physically difficult. they stood at the roadblock on vasilivka for a very long time. they are glad that we are very happy here because the soviets are. do you understand how easy it is? products are very expensive . we couldn't afford a lot of things. sweets. household chemicals. everything is very expensive. well, there are very few people. everyone is leaving. they don't want to be there. you can go

there to lviv and to poland, so don't forget the driver will take you етот всё, and we waited a very long time to leave the occupied territory . we we breathed our lungs full of happiness that we would once again be in a free ukraine, uh, we lived in kakhovka, there was heavy shelling there, explosions there, the child was very afraid. that is, we were fleeing from war, a real war, we thought that it was going to happen, but we understand that when the windows start to crack, it will be even harder in the future thanks to the volunteers, it was easy, yes, and thanks to the driver, this is generally a guardian angel, and these are all the circles of hell that we passed, eh, these faces, these girls, i honestly

found them, besides, they just made us turn out our bags and this underwear it's obvious that there are women with children traveling, we turned out our bags, that's all, everything was turned out, watched, checked, well, he's humiliating, honest, and we ourselves are snobby , it's simple. it's all the same, it's a return, i don't even know what the ussr is, and by the evening we arrived in zaporozhye. because we are here, we gathered, yes, we

gathered to leave, and it was a week of 5 days for me, it was scary, that’s why when this is happening, we traveled in a day, for me, it’s a miracle. well, we lived in novaya kakhovka, the situation was not there. well, honestly, i don’t really want to say it . but there is nothing good for me. there is nothing there. my home, we are still my relatives, but for me personally, as the future, yes, for me, my children are there, where at the moment all the systems that are happening there are telling that or i don’t think that we have a right to we happened there relatives, that's why everyone doesn't leave the house if it's safe there. what's happening in the occupied kherson region against the background of counterattacks by ukrainian forces , we'll talk about it later on the link oleksandr gunko, journalist, editor-in-chief of the publication nova kakhovka, my greetings to you good

evening, i'm for our viewers i will say that you lived in the occupation for almost six months all this time, and i know that you left kherson region only recently in august, that's right, i'll clarify, just explain, please , why you immediately decided to stay and then still in the end, they changed their mind and decided in august that they had to go. obviously, this is somehow related to the changes that were taking place in the region. well, of course, from the 1st day, i understood that epoch-making events were happening in ukraine and in the world in general, in my life, and i had to be a witness of these events, i as a journalist, as a writer, have to experience everything, you will see everything and describe all this in my articles and in my political works in artistic in artistic in artistic means, of course, and that is why i said from the very beginning

and then when a few months have passed that i will be here until the end, but i had to go through captivity, arrest , and interrogation three times, we did not detain, and of course it was already very difficult, there was a threat of being detained again, and therefore i decided that six months was enough to see, feel and understand everything that was happening and it was already necessary really, it was simply impossible to leave the city further. neither me nor my wife. and how did the representatives of the russian forces behave with you? what did they say to you? so, when did they constantly detain

you, when did they let you go? can you remember and tell me, well, the first time i was arrested 3 april and put me in solitary, handcuffed to the battery, i was interrogated by fsb officers, and the first thing they complained about my publications was that they were offended because i called them orcs , invaders, invaders, and said that i was spreading fake news . of the ukrainian authorities, and of course what i myself saw happening in the city and described the very journalistic activity, they arrested me and initially

wanted to make me the editor of the newspaper of the occupation kakhovskaya news, when i refused, they persuaded me to at least write for them, uh, materials, they said that they would pay well, that i could write objectively, even criticize the local occupation administration, but uh, of course, i couldn't do that, i did everything i could- i was already a pensioner, and in the end i refused, and then it was already in july, the officer who interrogated me said, well, no, no, no, you won’t be forced, mel. i would, too, if russia were attacked. for our country, but we for you we forbid you to engage in journalism at all, you can

only write poems, but we don’t publish anywhere and we don’t allow you to leave, before that they didn’t let me leave oleksandr and tell me, please , what sentiments generally prevail among the population, are they waiting or waiting there in ukraine ukrainian armed forces against the background of all these counterattacks attacks on bridges well, explosions are probably heard there, what do ordinary people say, of course, the absolute majority of people are pro-ukrainian and are waiting for release, waiting for our valiant soldiers, collaborators turned out to be very few because of that, they cannot even organize some kind of administrative management of the city. they have very few people who sit in our city hall, but the

majority of people are still for ukraine. they are waiting for ukraine and want us to be liberated as soon as possible, and in conversations among themselves they say the same as we say we don't want the kind of liberation brought to us by the occupiers. we want ukraine to return. do you understand another question? you can probably compare how the attitudes of the occupying forces changed when they came from the very beginning. well, you already we see that, in parallel with this, they are reporting about uh-huh losses among the russian army, which, well, obviously this could somehow affect their motivation in combat a-ah still. please tell me what the russian military themselves are saying about this. if you had the chance to hear hearing such conversations, of course, their moods changed dramatically in the first week of the month, they behaved very arrogantly, they

were very confident, they looked at the local residents as high as they did at people of a different kind. but in the last weeks, they look upset frightened, er, our author, who remained in the occupation, recently wrote to me that, er, they go to stores and buy up, like the last time they take a lot of vodka and look at our people with sad eyes, this is evidence of their confused and demoralized state, i understood you and one more allow me to ask a question. please tell me personally for yourself as journalists and writers, a person who lived in kherson oblast and i hope will return there, were you looking for an answer or

at least some kind of explanation as to how it happened that the russians the forces occupied kherson oblast rather quickly, these were objective reasons. because the forces prevailed, or was there treason or was it simply negligence ? do i have anything to say on this topic? by noon, russian troops were standing on the dam of the kakhovka hpp, and we were all shocked. we thought that we would be defended, that there would be some battles on the approaches to the city, but nothing happened, and many people asked such questions and wrote about it in public e-e in messengers they wrote about this and asked experts about it, and a lot has already been

said about the fact that kherson region was indeed surrendered without a fight, that betrayal took place. well, probably negligence, too, everything was a little bit of everything. therefore, naukakhovka was taken without a single shot, only under in kherson on the antoniv bridge there self-defense heroic defended themselves for several days so we are waiting for answers to these questions after the war i think this is the main question that law enforcement agencies and our central government should answer thank you thank you very much for joining our broadcast. oleksandr gunko - editor-in-chief of nova kakhovka was on radio svoboda. the international agency for atomic energy of the iaea published a report on the results of its visit to the

zaporizhzhya npp captured by the russian occupiers. in its conclusions, the iaea stated that there is now an urgent need to take temporary measures for to prevent a nuclear accident, in particular to establish a safe zone around the nuclear plant, the agency is ready to start consultations for the urgent creation of such a zone it is stated in the report of last thursday, i will remind you that the head of the magatera fael grossi led a mission of 14 inspectors who visited the station under russian occupation and as soon as the last members of the mission left this station, how zay was fired upon again the day before, in energoatom they reported that as a result of the fire that occurred due to the shelling of the station the last line that connected the node with the as with the energy system of ukraine was disconnected. this is the second such case of such a disconnection in history. the as was turned off for the first time on august 25. well, in energo itself, electricity and the water supply disappeared due to a powerful explosion in the city. marinergodara dmytro orlov reported this,

and pro-russian and russian forces in the city claim that it was the ukrainian side that allegedly damaged the power line, which means disconnecting the nuclear plant from the network . expert on nuclear energy and nuclear safety, my greetings to you. congratulations. explain to people who are not related to the nuclear sphere, what does it mean to disconnect from the energy system of ukraine, it is dangerous, it is disconnected from the united energy system in ukraine yesterday, as a result of this disconnection , the power unit number 5 and the drug unit number six had an emergency shutdown and reduced the power to 214 mw , which was used for the production of electricity for domestic utilities and a little in the dneprorud village. today it was known that there was an explosion was on a transformer, and as a result

, electricity was lost in the neighborhood power supply, but it seems that today, for now , electricity transmission has already been restored, which means a disconnection from the united energy system and that power unit number six works for its own needs, it was basically the expectation of the beginning of the shelling on the fourth of august. as soon as the russians began shelling, uh, to restore the power line now, from the crimean isthmus to the kakhovskaya, and when it came to the time of the program, how to uh, preserve the hare , uh, supply its electricity is fed through a transformer substation before being switched to the unified power system, shelling began and high -voltage power lines were damaged так далее и ето всё было демонстрационные

обстрелы корекретировсчыны онгя был очень раздамовской employees who are on the territory of the zaporizhzhya station. yes, just returning to the report that was made public. which was made public , there is a lot of talk about the need to take measures to prevent a nuclear accident, well, to be honest, it sounds so alarming there are such sharp ones that seem to grow as a result of the united energy system of ukraine, so for now power unit number six is ​​working for its own needs. if , for some reason, it will stop then it will the reserve diesel generators are connected and so on, the simulating factor is the fuel stock at the site and the fuel supply chain , because the reserve diesel generators cannot work indefinitely, the

restoration and connection of the zaporizhia as to the power system is necessary, even if it itself will not work and we need an external energy supply, so we will not consider such catastrophic scenarios . as for the report, here you are at the beginning of the reply, coming to this. maybe i will clarify here, i will just remember your previous interviews, and in one of them you said , i remember it very well, red, about the visit of the mission, you said that well, there is little sense in the fact that if the mission is temporary, it should be there permanently, and we now see that the mission was temporary, and they arrived and recorded that there is some danger of physical shelling of the station itself, and we left, and that's what you can say now after the completion of this information on a permanent basis, that's why the whole mission was of a temporary

nature . they will be replaced in the acts, well, with such a vaccine method, this is definitely positive and they threw it away on friday, returning from ukraine, he said that they will complete the military operations in ukraine, this is progress, this is progress, i will honestly say that i did not expect this, they will not interfere with the work of the personnel, they are not they have no instruments of influence on the russian occupiers. but the fact that they will give objective information to the secretary is also sad - this is a mission, it can be said that it is a permanent basis now and this is progress and this is victory ukrainian diplomacy i think this is already progress because i see it from press releases the fact is that the rich have reason not to trust either the ukrainian or the russian side always well,

many write notes with the opposite content and therefore it is clear that they want to be neutral not a political organization, they are technical bodies, that is why they want to have objective information from their experts, and they will receive it. another thing is that these experts will not have access to all premises. how did the director not let the money go? i could go to the emergency center because there we would be a refuge for the russian occupiers, but to be honest, i didn't have time to read the entire report in detail, but i read the final pages and what you quote at the beginning. i expected that they would immediately start consultations on the creation of the zone of occupation, practically yes consultations, in fact, and i did not expect them, then this will be the basis for pouring out the efforts of

ukrainian diplomacy of coalition politicians who we are supported to promote this idea of ​​decoupling already at the level of the un security council with consolidated efforts, this is the meaning , because it is rich, the mission could not occupy, as our politicians did, i populistically declare that they should occupy it , as we saw it the russians did not move to remove the military equipment of the military equipment from the industrial site, even though i am not talking about the protective hares from the sanitary zone. foreign journalists, but only their propagandists, etc., that is, they demonstrated full commitment to the international system of nuclear security, they humiliated everyone with their actions, this is the

accompanying person. more than i expected, i will honestly say thank you very much for joining the broadcast , we will follow the events at the occupied nuclear plant olga kosharna, an expert on nuclear energy and nuclear safety, was on the radio svoboda well, finally, i want to share with you the latest news, the president's office reports that president volodymyr zelenskyi has held another meeting of the supreme commander-in-chief. well, traditionally, i encourage you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda in social networks on instagram telegram twitter facebook where it is convenient for you and also two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio svoboda

ukraine subscribe stay tuned and see you tomorrow my greetings to everyone who is with us yana eva melnyk and this is news to withdraw the military and equipment of the russian federation and create a security zone around the megaten station finally published a report on the results of the mission at the zaporizhia nuclear power station the report consists of 52 pages with text and photos and is called nuclear safety measures in ukraine according to the international mission, the russians do not give personnel full access to all premises, which creates a potential danger at the station the occupiers even occupied the educational emergency center

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