in europe, valery, not everyone adheres to this position, you already mentioned hungary, viktor orban just literally announced that we have introduced 11,000 sanctions against russia, but they were not successful, and the inflation that then came to europe and the energy shortage can bring europe to its knees well, orban's position is already known and we are not surprised by the rebroadcasting of the kremlin's thoughts through orban's mouth, but after all, hungary is a member of the civilized part of the world, not the horde. orban is constantly playing along with putin. why, first of all, urban is another not all of hungary. and for example, in the same format, rammstein hungary was taking a role in its role. the government in hungary will change today. it is so populist. why is he doing this? well, there are different

estimates and speculations. there are also facts about his involvement and receiving funds from his party. in the elections from russian projects. that is, this is not an isolated case in other countries, the same thing happened, i will not be surprised if urban takes some position, then you have things to do. of the interests of europe against the interests of the european union, conclusions should be made by orbán, of course, of the hungarian people, who now mostly support the driver for today, but this may change and brussels, which gives the fund to hungary, which is in the eu, i think that because the position is such an absolutely clear position, it means that statements are not even only the actions of the members of the european union must correspond to the common foreign and defense policy, what does he destroy, erode

the common defense policy and the external european union, there are sanctions for this an internal issue, that is, there are sanctions. i am not talking about exclusion from the european union, no sanctions, very simple non-admission to funds, that is, he sings in a different way immediately, the questioner sings, you will see, that is, the key basic thing for him is a game for the bodies. well, there is already nato, and that is here the question is the common policy of the members of the north atlantic alliance and it is clear that orbán is an official, but how did you correctly say that the hungarians support him, otherwise he would not have been in power and obviously there were some protests anyway hmmm if there orbán was not involved in any gas facilities . i understand that you hinted at the fact that they have some common business interests with the russian federation, russian gas goes through hungary, and

then the operator of this gas in europe is, er, someone from the hungarian government or someone from leaders of the hungarian government, is there any possibility, is there any plan for ukraine, how to overcome it, because hungary is next to us, it is a country with which we border with which . well ri- there were various incidents when it was necessary to solve these questions in principle, why, why, why do hungary and hungarians behave like naughty children in a european school. er episodes from romania well, there are the speeches of the president of

romania , they were such at the call of some there there are none of these issues, especially when the war started, they understand what needs to be done in many respects . there were such conversations from poland, but now that russia has attacked everyone and this is an attack on everyone, the hungarian position looks like a separatist one, that is, it is different from others - is this a parade position or a separatist effort ? contact directly with the kremlin and it is very dangerous, because if someone is allowed, then why can't others also play the game. so, uh, and still get at the same time, that's

why i think that we have to work as a conspirator in the future with the hungarian parliament and various political forces on it is really not easy to talk about the provision of right-wing mountaineers in ukraine and ukrainians in hungary. all this must be done. by the way, everything will become easier from the moment when ukrainian ukraine joins nato and the eu joins nato, a lot of questions will immediately disappear. well, what is raised because, well, what will he talk about then? but the political scumbag is not his political strength. well, they will take such a line, and if we don’t tell them, they will have their own. well, here we need to attract arguments and apply them with the support of our partners of the european union on and the americans , that is, otherwise hungary can go very far, that is , they will not be able to sit on two arrows, but

we must work with the hungarians, as with us, we are a friendly people who are on our borders and we will be together in one european house, friends. we are in live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks on youtube and facebook. if you watch us on youtube or on facebook, please like this video in order for it to be promoted in the trends of these social networks. and subscribe to our social networks, read our news on the espresso tv website, we work for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week. so, mr. valery e putin announced yesterday that he wants to revise the grain agreement because, according to him, the grain mainly went to the needs of the countries europe will hear what putin said yesterday at the eastern economic forum. this export through the territory

of belarus is the easiest and the cheapest because it goes from there immediately to the portal of the baltic sea and to the baltic sea and further to any point on the planets, but for this you need to shoot sanctions from belarus this is not our question for the president of belarus in any case and the best site for questions exactly like this and if someone wants to solve the problem if it exists at all, this is the previous one, it was a synchronicity . what is developing, well, he means the countries of africa . he talked about it, only 3% of all exported grain was sent, and yesterday volodymyr zelenskyi said that grain is exported from ukraine to different parts of the world. 54 ships have already been sent to asia 16:1 to africa, 32 ships to europe, from which asian and

african countries also receive a part, at the same time, the president of ukraine said that uh, well, russia, uh, has a russian division of the world into those who deserve danger and those who do not deserve safety today i already am i am reading the position of erdoğan, who acted as a mediator in this grain agreement, he says that deliveries of russian grain to the world markets should begin as soon as possible, that is, putin tried to, by concluding this grain agreement, to solve his issue of exporting his sales to world markets . markets er, well, taking into account the fact that actually um, a logical logical question arises. just ah, ah, what's the deal, you can say, what 's putin's business in general, as far as where we export our grain, that is, he entered our territory opened our ports and now says that ukraine is exporting

not where we agreed to where russia wants, or should this be taken as another blackmail by putin, because i understand that he is going to close our ports again and say that well, we agreed that they would go to these grains convoys to africa, and they went to europe for some reason. well, we have already said everything, really, no. he has no such right, and even in that, in my opinion, this is a very strangely made agreement in two copies. because putin understood that he is losing again on the fronts, the armed forces of ukraine are taking the initiative with difficulty, but they are starting a counteroffensive, that is, he is losing, he needs to fix now the encroachment of the territory of ukraine , and it is clear that he understood that this vine is due to the so -called grain agreement mediated by turkey, in the

villages that we let's go once for this ukraine so we can go further, now we need to look for various x-ray experts sent in a shadowy way behind the scenes, plus they call the re-examined merkel there, does she want to, in general, all of them rushed to fix putin's again victories well, the way he wants to present it. therefore, this is a very dangerous situation. he really wants to turn everything upside down again and show again that it is necessary to capitulate, otherwise the decision will not be made. why here, what are we not doing? for some reason, we listen to all this, this flow of opinions that contradict each other, but it is purely to achieve our interests, and why do we not control and what does the un secretary general remove, what sanctions are in the ports for the delivery of

e.e. to russia by ship, does the general himself manually remove what putin said yesterday he said, thanking the secretary of the un, any sanctions on the movement of these ships are being removed because the sanctions on the food on them, the fertilizers that are on them, flowed from russia. after this agreement, they simply won because they also supply a lot of everything. and what does he want now, and he wants to financial instruments were removed from him in the ports and the messenger of the end is done manually, where is our question, what is going on behind the scenes, what is it, what kind of sanctions is putin removing, and he further hints at this, you showed the plot when he wanted and it was necessary to remove the tension export sanctions in the direction of and through belarus yes, from which shelling of the ukrainian territory is coming and now there will be manipulations about the same point, therefore, a complex war is resolved not only on the fronts, and there will be a combination of many

factors and the ability to dynamically react quickly to it , not just informational threats well, we said he was exposed in this lie. well, what about further actions to prevent the sanctions regime from being washed away, the sanctions pressure that is developing started with this grain agreement, so there are our interests. there are, but we have to consider what is more important for us, the sanctions began to develop very seriously, further steps will be aimed at blurring the sanctions and countering the supply of weapons, these will be the two directions of the russians that they will beat on the sanctions , they have already started to act noticeably, they have been for a long time, of course, these mechanisms began, but from august, somewhere in the month of they started he can act from july, from the end of that year to the spring, then he understands that it will already be in full swing of unemployment + 200-300 thousand, this is already in re in some tangible, that is, he obviously wants to return to the so-called agreements during the war, this is very interesting to him

against this background, we see the meetings of the un security council, these meetings were convened several times in the last few weeks and they talked about the situation at the zaporizhia npp and talked about what russia is doing with these so-called filtration camps, they talked about this yesterday at the same time, russia is constantly trying to dictate conditions to the un security council because it is their initiative that all this is happening, they are talking about the fact that the ukrainians are all shelling the zaporizhzhia npp, and we are defending it there, again the question is why they at all those russian troops are standing there. why don’t they uh-uh do n’t leave there and why doesn’t the slave without him insist or issue ultimatums there to the same uh-uh russian side, but in this situation we generally return to a rather simple problem. and what is

russia doing in general in security council of the united nations, taking into account the legal succession of the soviet union in 1991. moreover, we know that russia did not officially join the un as a country, it was done by the soviet union and two republics of the former soviet union, belarus . and ukraine eh russia has submitted a letter from boris yeltsin in 1991. we are the successors of the soviet union. therefore, we should be in the un and in the un security council. what is the current time, just ask the question and hold it. it is procedural to keep russia for some time. expelled from the un security council and, in principle, forced them to go through the usual procedure that these countries that join the united

nations go through and see if they meet the requirements that are in the un, despite the fact that china went through such a procedure in its time, china now does not supports this issue and, frankly speaking, there are few prospects in this right now, but you are telling us to put the official circumstances on the internet, a representative told us yesterday just as he was addressing everyone, they said here and to you who are dealing with the places of the soviet union , that is, officially we put it, moreover, it is in the archives un letter from lawyers and vagonivskyi who say that it is really necessary to go through the procedure, they did it and this is really a question, but let's imagine that russia goes through that procedure, it somehow loses its image there for a period of time it is organizationally difficult, but then it returns , the problem is not only that, the problem

is that russia is blocking the decisions, uh, which it violates the un charter, it carries out unprovoked aggression against an independent state, well, this is the basis of the un to say in essence that if it there was some business or some organization, then if the basic rules of cleanliness and organization are violated, it is destroyed, but you understand what the matter is, that is why he is unable to solve anything in the field of security while russia has the right to choose. therefore, the key is to deprive russia has veto rights. yes, in fact, today the first step in this regard has been taken. the assembly has understood the decision on the procedure. there may be a re-vote in the event of a veto, but it is still ongoing . what i am looking at more prospectively is that the lies and the russian attempt to manipulate all the people's security forces have actually already exhausted their resources. well, that's why i

expect at one of the meetings of the security council that everyone will simply turn their backs and leave these liars. diplomats are not propagandists, they are really people who take part in the war, they should have these people. well, i mean, diplomats should appear before the tribunal because they knowingly instigate the war, manipulate, lie, cite unrealistic facts and even brazenly throw out a challenge to everyone. why can they do this in they unfortunately have a neutral position of china, india, brazil, and south africa, while these countries will largely occupy such a neutral position, russia will have the audacity to tell that they have other support for education this is a challenge, why is the whole world in such a war, why are the chinese, who in principle should react to some

things , nuclear, e. brazil received information that united states secretary of state blinken arrived in kyiv with an unannounced visit. european countries that may be potentially threatened by russia in the future well, we have already talked about these 685 million dollars, obviously the total package of aid to kyiv and the european states to the eastern european states probably amounts to 2 billion e-e dollars for the scenes of our program e p valery i would like you e to ask about belarus first, let's see what lukashenko answered to a schoolboy's question about the future of belarus, whether it is possible for belarus to join another state by force or voluntarily

what did lukashenko answer? belarus is always sovereign or there will be some kind of violent or voluntary reunification with another state. thank god vanya, the question is not appropriate . reproach of the president that he is there gathering someone, somewhere, belarusian, someone to pass the sentence, this means more readers, my eyelids, the service of the president , this is how they will cross out a single decade , stay away from the internet and do not listen to those who this is what the only president says, that is, this

person who announced that she is creating a joint union with russia and is going to unify into a single state, this is a person who provided russian troops and gives russian troops a place to attack e-e from the territory of the republic of belarus by foreign forces to the troops, this person, who promised together with putin in 3-4 days to wipe the entire ukrainian army into powder , is now talking about how i can take and cross out the 25 years of my presidency , there are a lot of questions, well, this is a big one what a liar i have to say it here, and i have to speak frankly about it, but i have a completely different question, er, we are still in diplomatic relations with this country, which is ruled by lukashenko, we do not recognize him as the president,

for us he is the self-proclaimed president of russia in september 2020, we do not we recognized his powers and the elections we did not recognize that took place two years ago, but we maintain diplomatic relations, is it normal that in the seventh month of the great war in which belarus played an important role, and regarding the offensive in particular on kyiv, what do we have with them? diplomatic relations, what are we conducting trade with them, what are we pretending to do, well, we understand that our neighbors are, well, russia is the main one there, what is there to take from that belarus, if it is under russia anyway, is it correct and is it not necessary to ask the question now again about the severing of diplomatic relations about the introduction of visas for belarusians about the fact that we are making a large sanctions list of those people who are involved in russia's aggression on

the part of belarus well, we asked if it is normal no , it is not normal or correct i don't know it depends on that the same toolkit, that is, when i think that we are already late with these many measures, we are already late. well, here we have to see what will play its role, because this is breaking even diplomatic relations, not just because i want it to mean to someone, this is a forced step. is it a necessary step for further ones? people, that is, in this case, there are all the grounds for breaking off relations, whether it should be done or not should be determined now by all those who give out the full amount of information and e-e are building pre-term actions and long-term if speaking about the introduction of the visa regime. i think that this is a simpler question. i think it should be introduced because this is a question of the protection of ukraine. that is, it will at least provide some kind of preliminary check of those who enter

ukraine, that is. lukashenko says he is already you say he is lying he is adjusting in fact the paradox is that the success of the armed forces of ukraine on the fronts in ukraine strengthens his position in belarus because if we had no success he would have multiplied it by zero yesterday and they wouldn't ask him why he was there for 20 years or how much he built, they threw him out for garbage, took him somewhere in samara and left him there, they just brought in the troops, but so far it turns out that the successes of the armed forces are being shown by lukashenko, well, god forbid. in this regard, a he will not remove his responsibility , neither historically nor politically, that is, all this will remain , but he is right in that personally he is not interested in being multiplied by zero and thrown out as a person who feeds and robs

belarus, that is, in fact, he wants to do it himself of course, that is why he will be up to the last line of defense to control this or that sector, for example, he does not control, for example, maybe there are shelling by russians, in fact, he does not control defense issues on that level. well, what to do? war but he can control absolutely nothing and putin has such opportunities he is trying to do it and will continue to push lukashenko therefore kharchenko let him pray for our troops for our troops the paradox is that we are now saving his life no more no no more no less the very life personally well, because in the event that russia is thrown out of the territory of ukraine, it is quite possible that belarus will become the next state that will throw out russians and the same lukashenka, because

it doesn’t matter what the opposite is if ukraine throws out if and when throw away your territories, the threat to belarus will decrease, they are now maximally increased because russia has bases, it controls it, it will not introduce a war on the territory of belarus, but it already has the full right to the unlimited , uncontrolled presence of its armed forces, this some belarusians say that this is such a soft occupation of belarus, but now there is more of a threat for belarusians , because it is clear that we have common interests with the belarusian people, well, they are basic, but a large number of belarusians support lukashenko for a long time, they have their reasons for this, so it is very difficult here situation, but in external relations , everything is very simple. this is a person who did not fulfill his promise. he said that not a single soldier will enter there, his head of the border guard service, his

minister of defense, they all lied about it, eh. you can't while you're just from these territories, they could do it. they could not put their back or something below the back of their friend from moscow, but they could think that they are representatives of the belarusian people, and they bent down and posed, well, they will be in such a position and you know, i can't help but ask you about another president of turkey, recep tayyip erdoğan, because we see that during these six months, support from the turks in this war for ukraine, and on the other hand, we see that erdoğan is trying play with the russian federation there it seems that during this year, they imported almost 1 billion cows worth of goods to russia, and now ertoga is trying to talk about the need to open

these grain corridors for russian goods. that europe is in panivka, erdoğan says about how to spend the winter in the conditions of the crisis with energy carriers, jordan is trying to play with us with the west from russia, and why why can't he, let's say, choose one position because it reminds me a little of this multi-vector external historically, turkey has always done the politics of ukraine like this, even remember the second world war . turkey initially actually traded with hitler, supplied him with important metals and some elements there, and already entered the war on the side of the winners, the last time, literally, the period of the war, well, this is byzantine ottoman policy, it is not going anywhere

it happened, it was determined primarily by the location of the turkish people. it is located in such a region and at the junction of europe and asia, there are various mixtures of various interests, and of course this is the result such a field, that is, this is historical, believe me , turkey now occupies not the worst position from what could have been, for sure in the sky, therefore it is difficult for me to say, on the one hand, as a nato country, of course, it should play more together, and with which nato, and it acts normally, it is in in principle blocked the entry of russian ships there, uh, still makes some decisions , supplies hectares to russia, does not supply, that is, in principle, yes, but everything else needs to be convinced , including uh, that this connection that has strengthened with

putin, the cardigan, is personal to him. erdoğan it will not be beneficial and on the contrary it can play a bad role, now you need to have an image, because trust in him is falling inside the country, 80% of inflation , again, he closes economic issues. thus , on the one hand, on the other hand, when he starts to play the role of this intermediary and with ours, he loses a lot of things, well, this is a paradox, it seems that at the first stage, it would have strengthened, but a very serious cream from russia can play a bad joke with him. therefore, let's be realistic, we are not getting what we would like from turkey as much as possible, but turkey is definitely not the worst in terms of support. thank you, mr. valery, on this optimistic note, we will end our conversation

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