tanks and seven infantry fighting vehicles were completely accompanied by infantry. well , as maxim said, well, the second army in the world, but they are working after the second world war. the main thing is that the first one goes in the column, the battalion commander, or whoever goes there, the senior one. our task was a bucket to let this enemy into the chernigov club, we hid behind it as maxim said, i was waiting for this enemy behind the fence, as they say, they caught him alive, he left, uh, immediately told the gunner to shoot, he fired, uh, right away, the cannon fell to the enemy, we already understood that he will not to shoot because the cannon fell, he didn’t mind, it falls, uh, well, he charged it, uh, he charged a collimative projectile and

hit the mechanics right into the armor on the side of the forest, and i think the system failed and the cannon fell down, and that’s it, that’s all he is capable of he was not combat-ready, he fumed , then he left. as maksym said, the following tank was knocked out. they knocked out that tank and managed to escape, and even on the video cameras, they saw that there were people in chernihiv. that a large convoy was driving. well, we knocked out their battalion commander and another car destroyed the battalion commander, everyone saw it and began to turn around and leave chernihiv because it was the first day, so it was. because the people realized that there was no command, why would they have to go to chernihiv ? as they say, it was felt from their behavior from their actions that they did not

expect such resistance and well, they were confused by the fact that they were met with armed armed resistance, a worthy opponent, so they did not expect it. they thought that they would drive in, we would run away. they thought that we were them. saw such a large column and we will turn around and immediately go there ugly to chernihiv or are we going to chernihiv? well, how did we capture the commander of his battalion commander? that they don't sit at home there or something else. and they were personnel contract workers, he was an officer, then he was a sergeant, well , the battalion commander, i asked him a couple of questions , he was silent and didn't say anything . there was a balance of power

they said that the column was very large russian and how many of you were there, how many of them were there and how many of you well, in order not to betray the infantry, we had a territorial defense, we had more territorial defense, there were wounds of chernihiv chernihiv, the city of chernihiv, there were somewhere 60-70 men, and there were four of the armor tank , four tanks covered this line we were standing in the city of chernihiv, of these four tanks, uh, it worked. well, as they say, i’m not saying well. well, only my tank worked. because, knowing that we were getting away with it, the battalion commander gave the order to withdraw some of our tankers were standing on the right side, because when they stood there until the end, well, it would have been bad, and they would have given the

order to us, they left, and i simply had a good position to meet them with a shot. they stopped, yes, everything turned out very well , that is, your one tank actually stopped this column , yes, the gates stopped the attack on chernihiv. yes, i thought that ours were there, i don’t know, 100-150 uah tanks, well, it seemed to me that there should be some kind of parity. and to stop such a thing a whole column with one tank or four tanks, well, well, it’s hard to imagine a guy, tanks were just tanks, they were surrounded around chernigov , there were only four on our border, yes , that is, there were several similar similar stories in different directions, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. what, after that, i want to go to the donbass, but also of the eastern front, but chernihiv, and they regrouped, they made more attempts

to enter chernihiv from the second time there to attack it, or did they realize that your positions were so much stronger that it was better to stand aside, well, they tried to enter they regrouped, and on the 28th, somewhere around the beginning of eight in the evening, they asked me to go back to the position where i was working on the first tank when they asked to come in. i moved there, where i knocked on the side, i just stood behind him and hid under a bush, that is, a burnt tank i was practically invisible from the sky, well, the tank was burned, well , i was standing under a bush, and at that moment they asked me to come in again in the evening. i don’t know what the superiors told them that we were no longer there . in i opened the window, got out there and drove like that, they were driving, and you remember their headquarters armored personnel carriers, they wanted to break through again, well, the tank i can’t

say about the tank, but the armored personnel carrier was knocked out, they were able to drive 1.5 km on it, and the documentation shows that they were full of everything . you won not only the equipment, yes , but also the documentation is important, yes, yes, and their superiors, because how many of these commanders did you gather then, well, if you think about it that way, then the battalion commander and the chief of staff. purchase, i have the impression that they are just silent , they are just silent and that's all. but the ordinary people tell the same story, the same fairy tale everywhere that we were going to study, we suddenly found ourselves here, that means on ukrainian land, the people didn't know that this was ukraine , they didn't see anything, they didn't tell us anything and we, ah,

but well, another tank is coming at you, shooting at you, there must be some kind of guess, yes, somewhere it will appear that it is possible that you are a debating country, yes, this is no longer training, i guess, like them, by the way, arthur wanted to ask you you have been fighting since the 14th year like them things have changed since that time, the war has been going on for eight years and, well, usually all military personnel learn in the course of these skirmishes during the war , the russians have learned something, their tactics, their behavior, their level of their training have changed, and psychologically, is it possible to notice some changes in their behavior, something has changed in them over these 8 years, in my opinion, uh, 8 years in our country, as it was 8 years ago, we had donetsk and luhansk, people there learned something to fight, but russia never learned. she has only been studying for six months, you came war

they are already starting something there, changing their tactics at the beginning, they wrote a book called sovetskaya to go to the battle line, the commander is the first, everything is in battle, the line must be broken through the line of the enemy there, that’s all well, that’s how they worked, well, this is a little bit of textbooks from the year 62 or 42 year, yes yes, did you understand when the defense of chernihiv began that the capture of chernihiv by the russians opens the way for them to capture kyiv, did you understand the importance of the commander telling you that the boys must be held at any cost because this is chernihiv, it is the gateway to kyiv he said so the battalion commander that when we withdraw and chernihiv will be difficult for us later and it will be more difficult for kyiv - well, we are our tankers that and

the territorial defense held on with its teeth to this piece of land, they even held this land and did not want to give it to chernihiv and did not give it because we are on our land, we knew what we stood for, uh, we held on until the end, you know, i stayed in kyiv when the war started, and that's why i want to personally thank you on behalf of all kyivans whom you actually protected in chernihiv and sumy until things too i.e. precisely because the enemy was not able to fully break through these lines with all its strength. that is why a critical large group of groups did not gather near kyiv. of course, kyiv also had its own circumstances and there were some natural obstacles in the form of the irpin river. there were many different circumstances. but your the contribution is also impossible not to mark, impossible to overestimate, thank you very much. from everyone, your thanks to

everyone, the audience is really joining in. although they are there along some roads, they were advancing on kyiv, but they could not capture whether or not they wanted to to turn it into a base for some channel of its power just on the way, therefore, the withdrawal of russia from the kyiv region would not have been possible if it had not been for such heroic acts of fighting that were done on everyone say that in general the defense of chernigov and the sum have at all this is a separate page of this war, we will read it and we will talk a little more about the films, we will have a lot of 1+1 , the night watch project is returning to the air, and today , september 11, ukraine celebrates tanker day , so we have heroes from this front in the studio, artur oliferenko, captain, commander of a tank company, and borysenko, maksym, sergeant, tank commander, soldiers of the first separate tank brigade of the seversky brigade, in

the first part, we talked about the defense of chernigov . and i was very interested in your thesis, arthur , about the fact that the russians began to study us somewhere in april, the commander of your brigade, leonid khody, was activated in marathon. he was then somewhere in the east, directly from the combat positions. he told us that we asked about the fact that old soviet t-62 tanks were being supplied to the russians. how weak they are there, because everyone makes fun of it on the network. and he says that it doesn’t matter what kind it is, yes, he has a gun and he shoots, that is, tell me how the tank battles in donbas differ from what happened in chernihiv. they weren't ready for chernihiv, it was actually such a small shooting range, yes, for your close-range shooting. if that's how you can compare ah, on the eastern front, everything is a little different, what's happening there. yes , it's very different from chernihiv, in

the direction we worked there were moments for lysichanskyi in the direction of the operative there, the number of artillery exceeds ours and the number of troops in our country has had such cases, they occupied the indicated line to repel the enemy, incredibly large columns of equipment were coming at us, tanks, bmps, infantry are very successful in their task of breaking through this line of ours, which we are defending , but they say that they are learning who used to go to the colony, now they are already trying all the time, how is it

there, the balio line, somewhere to hide the car, their seats, so that they are less visible, there are already uh, there are such people, adequate, there are those who, as the wage earners say money just moved. but there are people who are adequate, professionals, and there are enough people, so they too, and because of the advantage in artillery, even the morning begins and they begin to cover all the landings in the morning, even there and our troops are not there, they steal this landing god forbid something gets smoky there, they begin to cover it until the end of it so that they will not climb, as it is not a forest plantation, but the trunks themselves will stand, that is, the shells, they do not count, they do not count, they can, too, just as they advance, they are chaos on they are destroying, well, it was wild for me, they were destroying, i

was looking through binoculars, they were destroying a village, a village, a village , 30-40 houses, they had not completely destroyed the whole village in two hours, and then they came in with their tanks, that's all, well and it is very difficult to counter this kind of artillery shelling, yes, it is very difficult, because we have artillery, yes, there are the latest types of artillery, but we have few of them, and they have more firing points, and ours can’t all these points of fire hit the question to the gunners, it's to the counter-battery fight, and such are the classic ones, that's how in the movies, tank duels take place, there were such battles. when you see the enemy, he sees you. well, you understand that it is only your skill here. there were such battles. tell me

, please, how we will return to chernihiv. chernihiv. as they entered we looked at each other, he may not have seen somewhere , well, the distance was, well, 500 meters, in the same way, on lysichansk, they left just further , their car was parked at 1100 well, i don't know if he saw me, well, i saw him, and i worked because of that what are you i probably saw him first, you are sitting here, yes, yes, yes, yes, i just worked on one side , rolled out to the other side because i asked them to stop and they are trying to go there, i rolled out there, worked and they went along the main road and from vovka yarovka we go up to the neighbor the french got used to helping them, our paratroopers, they didn't cope a bit, the combat infantry were walking a lot, he left, let's dismantle the tanks there, well, it's

ours to destroy them, and at one point, as many as three tanks came forward, the french knocked out one tank, that's it stops, it starts burning, the tower flies away and a car drives behind them. they don't even look at the next morning. the next one has cars and they just drive around this burnt tank, that is, they lie wounded, they don't stop. they don't collect them, drive around and drive straight ahead. the second point repels it, it also lights up, the tower flies away, the bmp goes around, one is there, the wounded one is already lying there, the second one goes around and moves on, the frenchman goes out again with a cumulative projectile right at the mechanics, the bmp lights up, that is, there are no bmps and the frenchman left the hill, the frenchman did not roll over the forest, and the 802 rolled out and hit the frenchman in the forehead.

the crew was intact, but the car was slightly damaged. at that moment, i rolled out a little to the side. i saw where the spike was coming from, and i hit it with a shock absorber, and it remained there in place straight. on a hillock as a good target for our infantry. on the side, we had a javelin guy who jumped up a little from the second position and helped me in general. point out of sight, if i was walking and they would shoot at me, that is, they hit one car, i was obviously already hiding or would have retreated, and they are advancing and advancing, that is, they are there or they are not counted as people, and why are they just being let in? they are promised that they make such sacrifices. this story seems

so small to me. the film is cool, yes, it tells the story of a tank battle, but you tell it so cheerfully, but at the same time, it is probably also scary, especially for such a young person like you. well, this is an iron box in which you can simply there are such cases of elementary burns and not having time to jump out. well, in principle, there are, or is it possible, modern technology, it is no longer as dangerous as it was. so in soviet tanks, when people simply burned inside, like a church, there is still a church. how does a tank commander direct this tank if it stands in one place and works from one place? it is clear that either artillery or stealth will somehow destroy it from the side. and if you shot, rolled and hid somewhere, that is you are constantly maneuvering. well, as you can see, i will also say here that you and i are communicating perfectly. i want

literally one river, isn't it scary, and what am i afraid of on my own land, let them be afraid of me in a tank. by the way, i wanted to clarify. yes, such a nuance yes, we all read the news, and what is happening awakens us to some earlier atrocities committed by the russian military, and well , you yourself understand what emotions rise inside each person at this time, how does it affect you and how can it somehow affect your behavior during the battle, such news when you really hate these people, somehow it affects your emotional state, it adds illusions to yours, and maybe some kind of, you know, i call it spas in tonicus, that's teutonic rage, teutonic rage, well, it adds, as they say, anger hmm and in battle they want to want well, you must also understand

that if you are a good commander, then if you are very rude in your car and you will not drive and think less than that, anger will quickly destroy you. that is, you cannot drive a car and you can be angry, you can be angry while there, we rolled away from somewhere, it was cold there, uhu, we rolled over for a couple of minutes, they called us names there. yeah, they are so bad. and you were driving. when you shoot the other way around, you have to smile. well, it caught fire. oh, well, one plus for me, and i want to contact you too, and we still have a few more . minutes, i literally want to ask, what did you understand about the enemy, starting from february 24, are there any observations, any conclusions? what did you draw during these six months of war? analyzed for myself, i just didn't understand why the military of the russian federation came to our

land, what do they have in mind? how many prisoners did i see, i asked them, what was your incentive to come here, what did he say ? we were mobilized, we said we would come, we came, why can't we refuse or something else, well, i just don't understand this anymore. yes, in battles , too, he says exactly what they say. when after the fight the battle is ending, it's really scary, too, that's right, the battle is over, you're already scared and you approach the prisoner and say, "you're not scared, but he's sitting and looking at you and they say, why did you come to me anyway, well, commands, what do you need to

worry about everyone a tank in hand yes and coordinate the work and how is the work coordinated in battle so ten tanks well, uh, i'm doing uh, at the moment how, for example, there are five cars leaving, there are six cars from the company, i hear a little bit i stand behind my tanks so that i can see strimplex, with the commander's turret, all my tanks, so that i can control the battle, because i don't know where they can leave, so my right flank, for example, will tell me to see the enemy, i'm destroying everything, i realized that i need to pay more attention to the right the left flanker means he observes on the right flank , i have to help in case of something. i'm also a kind of me and i lead the company, but i also help it to fire, well, in case of a breakthrough of the enemy from the

right side, i need help from the guys, i'm going from the right side to help the boys in the case of the left the side of the left side is going eh, yes, that’s what scares me, and it’s scary for myself, the newest one . there are 10 tanks in front of you, and their lives and their successful shots depend on your coordination. well, i imagine maxim was telling me how the tank was driving. he did n't see us. well, we saw it, but maxim was looking at the tank. he tells me the tank and in i was killed because the crew of the frenchman yak maksym said, they were hit. were their heads twisted as to whether the guys were alive or dead

, as they looked at trimplits that when our tank was hit, the guys got out from behind the boshns. i already felt lighter that the guys hid in the landing, that they were alive, and there they were with the paratroopers i already knew that the guys with reliable hands are kindergarden, yes , the guys with reliable hands have a lot of pain there, everything is right, the end itself, here is a literally short question . so when does this counteroffensive of ours take place, for which we all hold our fists and pray for you? tell me please, how has the behavior of the russians changed? has it changed? they say that they throw away all their equipment and run away from the high school just in panic, and the prisoners seem to be hundreds and so on. and so on. is it true and why did it happen? they seem to be captured, they surrender , they abandon the equipment, even in general, according to the conversations of my uh, uh, comrades. well, uh, as they said, we haven't reached it

yet, they are already getting out of the tank, they are leaking, i say, it's the next tank, we already have only a few questions, well, about the trophy two words, please we are disassembling eh we collect and we will collect trophy tanks this is like for a tanker how is it a collection eh so you took for example the t-72 so you already need a second modification of the t-72 b3 you need already the more the better it will be only cars so so so so draw sit down on their marks and already work on it, yes, yes, yes, because uh, when we take trophy tanks, uh, there are specialists who uh, they know, and in 72s they sit down and continue to fight on them, and the same tanks of theirs turn out perfectly they are going in their direction , but i also talked with your soldiers and they say that your commander

the brigade commander, yes, leonid walks, he is constantly on the front line, well, it’s true that with the guys there, he rushes and helps coordinate, does not sit in the rear, nor does the battalion commander sit in the rear, i saw him a lot on the front lines, very often helps battalion commanders, even helps commanders what should i come up to tell you what is better to do? the brigade commander is good. if there were more such brigade commanders in the brigade, it is possible that the first one is the severska one, and the first one, and there are many of them. the first severska is one of the most powerful, well, we have to finish maxim, the two of them before the broadcast talked about an incredible story of how they got into the army in two minutes. well, i did not believe that such a thing could happen. tell me, please, this is a very interesting story of 14-15 years old my father was taken away for

mobilization, i was in debaltsevo, then i returned, i wish i had studied and there was a large household at home, i thought to myself that i wanted to go to school, not to the lyceum, i already thought that i wanted to join the army, i want to try , well, how is this discipline? well, show me simply i just wanted to be at home. at that time, my father said that i would not be allowed to join the army because there is a war. you are 18, and he says, i know how fast you are in my life, you get yourself together and go. my motorcycle has arrived. i get up in the morning and say i will go to the district to buy spare parts for a motorcycle. and i myself go to the military commissar for my passport and go to the district military office. i say i want to join the army . how old are they? i say 18, and then i was on conscription from the 21st. says

let's accept, i say so. and on the contract they said that it is possible with 18 well, they sent me to the commission, i chose all the documents. i arrived without spare parts. my father asks me if there are any spare parts, and i say that there were no spare parts. i just ordered them. i say that in a couple of days we should go and pick them up. i’m already saying the money that i paid. it’s clear what i brought. well, i left in a couple of days. days, i have already collected all the documents, they told me tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. i will arrive with my things and you will go to the military unit, you will go to the tank for the first time, and they also asked the guy who do you want to be, i say so, i don’t know, i say where will it be put ? in tanker, well, tankers, yes, tankers. well, i came home already in the evening and said i was already a tanker. no, in general, my parents were like, well, my father was like, well , my father looked, my mother cried, i said that it’s okay to cry. i climbed into the tank. i got into the tank. we have a lot of buttons, a lot

of all kinds of incomprehensible levers , a motorcycle. calm down on this one, we'll tell you, we'll show you. well, in two weeks , they told me everything, showed me, and i went on a tank, not at a gunner, that is, i was already there, you could say a small professional. i already knew that people came and were still studying. i was already walking smarter. how many years has it already been over time, the sixth year has already passed, the seventh has already started well, that's how it happened incredible stories and we read such stories in books, yes, only works of art, but how people go to the military, but such stories are happening now , we have not heard of them yet, friends, how we wouldn't want to

to continue, the editors are already crucifying me there , we have to conclude, we want to sincerely congratulate you , first of all, on the holiday of the tankman's day, and to thank everyone for this ukrainian people, thank you for what you do, it is extremely difficult work, every soldier in every direction is doing what is possible, and here is your presence here she really is. i think that what we heard will reassure our viewers, and it will add more faith, even though we already have unlimited faith in our armed forces, or will it add faith in our victory. thank you very much, and we will tell the viewers that after the broadcast, i i hoped that they would give you a week to rest there for a few days, even if you came to kyiv from the front line, but they say you are coming back today , so we wish you to return to a peaceful life as soon as possible, return to your homes and come to our broadcast after the victory, we will be glad to see you here may god take you, the fighters of the first separate tank brigade and captain olivtserenko artur