to fight traitors and collaborators along the entire vertical from the highest level to the lowest, if someone tries to use his authority through acquaintances through some other corrupt ways to try to avoid responsibility for the traitor, then we must understand that this is already the action of the whole network and in this way society first of all, not the letter of the law, more precisely, the letter of the law and society must together guarantee that no traitor escapes responsibility, because the lifeblood and health of our fellow citizens are behind it. thank you very much thank you mr. ivan and ivan varchenko, an expert on security issues, a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine, worked live on the espresso info tv channel in the middle of the day at half past ten in the morning, and on valevska, antin borkovskyi, and then timur podstryuga, the head of the management of the association of sappers

of ukraine, will join us and we will talk with him in more detail about demining of liberated territories, and in general , there are apparently no safe places, especially where there was an occupation or where russian troops simply passed, such areas as chernihiv and sumy kyiv region and of course the east and the south. i don't know even in these liberated territories. it's just in the forest for how many years. where will it be possible to walk? now we 'll ask professional sappers. how is their work going on ? we're digging in kyiv region, they had a time there, they mined apartments and on the street. there were cases when there were just stretch marks. and what's there in kharkiv region in particular, we'll ask, we'll add information for now, yes, interesting information once again, roman dudin, who until the end of may headed the security service of ukraine in the kharkiv

region, was detained on suspicion of treason . more detailed information should appear today. we should note that mr. dudin criticized the activities of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, and the authorities, in particular, in the kharkiv region well, as they say, we are waiting for details according to the information of the ministry of defense of great britain, against the background of the offensive of ukraine, russia probably ordered the withdrawal of its troops from the entire occupied kharkiv region to the west of the vydrivsk skol region, in the report of this department, it is said that isolated pockets of resistance remain in this sector, but since wednesday, ukraine has recaptured an area that is at least twice the area of ​​great london, that is, almost one and a half thousand square kilometers. since september, the security service of ukraine

detained kyivans who were working on the launch of a pro-russian media center, so they were agents of the russian federation and worked on the launch of the tavria media center on south of ukraine, the security service of ukraine reports. the main task of the enemy resource was the mass distribution of kremlin propaganda in the region through the specially created telegram channels, dozens of online television and radio applications, these resources were to be used to justify the aggression of the russian federation and spread disinformation about the situation at the front. was supposed to act under the guise of a so-called media center and cover the audience of odesa, mykolaiv, kherson , zaporozhye, dnipropetrovsk regions and of the temporarily occupied crimea, it’s just interesting. what are the people who are organizing this thinking, investing this huge amount of money? from the very first news, it will be clear that this is a means of mass information and ukrainians

absolutely clearly filter this and understand where the wind is blowing. board of the association of sappers of ukraine timur greetings good afternoon please tell us about the work of sappers in the liberation, the demining stage, how is the demining of the liberated territories, in particular, kharkivska oblast in the kharkiv region well, first of all, we must understand that any recovery of the region after armed conflicts after the war begins with demining. also, we must understand that demining is different, and different procedures and duration depend on this, and so on. the forces that are being involved at the moment. as i understand it, in

kharkiv oblast, operations for operational demining will take place first of all, which will be involved, as was the case in kyiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, primarily pyrotechnic units units of the state service, emergency situations of the armed forces of ukraine, but we hope that countermining operators will also join this process, and the process of humanitarian demining will begin with the transfer of land and the corresponding guarantees of quality and safety, and there is already information in these green points. i mean hard, are there any special features of mining there, and when did the escapees not have time to mine the green points ?

days of a full-scale war, in fact , the situation in kharkiv oblast is very difficult, i must remind you that the first such unprecedented discovery of anti-personnel mines of the latest model on the medallion , point three, were found precisely in kharkiv oblast, in the area of ​​dergachiv. if i am not mistaken, er, the situation there is actually very difficult, moreover, we understand that kharkiv region was very actively shelled and if we talk about er, demining processes, we have to understand that it is not only there that the territories are mined directly there by the deminers of the russian occupation, but also munitions that did not explode because there are a lot

of munitions that we are shelling our territories , they do not initiate and pose a threat to the civilian population as well, this kind of makes it difficult to complete the task, i would like to ask you what the newest anti-personnel mine of the medallion type looks like here are the samples for our tv viewers to be oriented, where the viewers and the civilian population must be oriented to all the dangers and even if they know what my medallion looks like or any other the mine is the same petal that also carries a threat, uh, that's all, people usually imagine that there is an anti-personnel mine. it resembles, i don't know , an anti-tank mine. it's big, so big. that sausage is twisted, so on and so forth, and we

understand that mines are anti-personnel. they have can be much more accurate if they are much smaller in size, do you understand what the danger is if we talk about pom 3, then seismic sensors are installed there. that is, it reacts to the movement of life force, that is, to the movement of a person and it is not necessary that you first you'll see what she's talking about, that's why people should first of all be careful, listen only to official sources of information, where you can go back, where you can go, where you can go , where the humanitarian exchange procedures have already been carried out, that is, where complete demining takes place and land is transferred to the final the user can only then talk about safe areas and arrivals there are already people in civilian clothes and so on and so on. here in

kyiv region after the liberation it seems that for several years they said it was necessary for complete demining what can be said now about the liberation of kyiv, how far is it safe there, and is this stage of the final stage already completed? no, of course, it has not yet finished and it will not finish quickly, because the situation is very complicated, so that we understand what the volumes are. in the east of ukraine so, until february 24, the territory that needs humanitarian demining intervention was estimated to be about 7,000 m². that's how it was in kyiv oblast, according to a preliminary estimate, it's more than 8,000 tons, it's only kyiv oblast, here's the positive thing is that already in may, it was supposed to start

the process of humanitarian demining, er, we just started it because we were here on the spot, and our safari had already joined the representatives of the state bodies that were engaged in operational measurements at the time, which may have caused the process er, but i always emphasize that humanitarian demining is er- it's not just that you are leaving with pyrotechnics there on call, as operational demining is continuous demining, and the most important thing is that the earth is then transferred to the end user with appropriate quality guarantees and safety and where the operator is already responsible for cleaning this area against the mining activity, it is necessary to emphasize that humanitarian demining

is this . compliance with the law of ukraine on countermeasures , that is, to call professional sappers and not try to somehow do it yourself, this is what you mean if we are talking about operators this it means legal entities that have gone through the certification process and received the appropriate certificates. who have the right to engage in this work? well, and compliance. and after that, transfer the land because it is also a complex long-term procedure and it is necessary here again to emphasize that before the transfer of the land, what we are currently doing in the kyiv region is being carried out. external quality control is being carried out. inspections are coming. i am already checking us as operators to see if we have done everything correctly and clearly

. only after that, the transfer takes place that's why i emphasize that it is not enough to simply be a sapper and have a document confirming that you are a sapper and engage in demining and provide such services . mine activity in the ministry of defense of ukraine is not assigned to the national body against mine activity. that is why it is such a difficult procedure . of the informational and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel, well, in the next few hours, together with the best ukrainian experts, of course, anna valevska, we will analyze the most important events for us in borkovsky, well, i wanted to ask what happened to timur, which

most often do not meet, but it did not work out further . and nuclear safety and brand zheleznyak will also comment on nuclear issues , a scientist of the institute of environmental radioactivity of focusim university and a former chernobyl liquidator, let's talk about nuclear energy, energy security of ukraine, and of course zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, what is happening there now , we are waiting for our guests. well, while our guests are joining our broadcast, i will once again announce important news from the maga, they say that consultations on demilitarization are ongoing of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which is currently temporarily occupied by russian troops, an option is offered to withdraw russian troops from the territory of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant under guarantees of the armed forces of ukraine, do not enter them, we

understand the situation is non-technological, political and military, well, in any case, at least megate appeared with a specific, important initiative of our guests, olga kosharna is already with us, mark zaliznyak. we greet you. good morning. greetings, ms. ol, please give your comments . react to this statement, a lot of consultation then because the president of france, macron, called both president zelensky and president putin, eh, as a result of these conversations , yesterday, eh, the russians shot infrastructural energy objects of ukraine and, in particular , a thermoelectric plant would be installed in kharkiv , which as a result of the city's ethics

would remain that the situation at the front, so to speak, has now swayed in our favor, the armed forces of ukraine have performed a certain miracle. so we understand how successful our counteroffensive was, on the other hand, we understand that the situation in zaporozhye is a little is different, let's hope that it will change, so in any case, we are waiting for the prospects of demilitarization, we understand that the issue is a political issue , a military one, and not only a technological one. it's crazy, they say that they are a military operation

destroying civilian objects, but everything is there and it expresses the whole civilized world, they have been playing such a game for many weeks, they have been playing such a spectacle that the ukrainian army is shelling zaporizhzhia station, but it was with this last missile attack that our thermal power plants demonstrated that this is their style of work. i don't see how they will continue to play the whole game, on the one hand, accusing the ukrainian army of firing everything, and on the other hand , they themselves are shelling our energy plant the object is the first, this is the second, and we all understand that putin now very much needs a pause and we really need a negotiation, and we very much understand that zaporizhia npp has become a bargaining chip, as such a lever on which he is probably pressing a lot.

i am satisfied with the talks with macron, because if he is stronger, also because there is a threat to the energy systems of ukraine, if the thermal power plants are destroyed and the zaporizhzhia plant can be switched to the russian system, we will have energy supply, but i have already said on the air, i say once again that my belief is that the collective intelligence the beginning of the civilized world is higher than the intellectual than the intelligence of the windy gopniks and the henchman of our army to them, we will be the solution to many of this sin plays its game. i have already said in the previous interviews, they have their mandate, they cannot go to it , but i believe that it is necessary to understand that these are all parts of the same game and very often i read a lot these days the accusations of many people that they have russian money and that is why they play i got interested in russia for the first time. there is a fund, what are the stores

, the structure is the structure, they are marketed in, but the money you put in them is separate, this is a special fund that invests money from a civil case here, because in the real budget, 11 stores are invested in the united states in the 21st year states 25%, government of russia 2.5%. japan 8%. and russia, according to its plan, somewhere in the eighth or ninth month ago, they have no financial influence. they have the influence that they, as descendants of the soviet union, they have all assigned this status. they have a place in the ten permanent members of this fund, but they do not have a decisive vote. i believe that something. now we can see that it is a complicated game, but it is a game in which the civilized world uses other different levers and thank you thank you thank you mr. zheleznyak accordingly the question to ms. kosharnaya yes

demilitarization in words this is good but key the question is even if we all started moving in this direction, the russians would withdraw their occupation forces from the zaporizhia nuclear plant, the key question is whether our ukrainian personnel would remain there? and in general. how can you comment on the story of the transfer now from ac to the so-called cold reserve? energy supply is the united energy system of ukraine and it worked on the critical low capacity of the turbogenerator of 114-140 megawatts, which was quite difficult and dangerous in general, and even the chest wrote about

it yesterday on its website. but after this , it started to enter the cold state, the last one, it takes time, eh, i gave up, wrote that 30 hours, our engineers say that 15 hours are needed for that transfer the cold state, while the zaporizhia station does not need to be internal , it consumes the existing energy system of ukraine. as for the switch, the russians do not remember it yet, i do not know. in what condition is the switch of the transformer dzhankoyskaya, which played a key role in switching the zaporizhia station to the combined system of the russian federation krym is different and different information is from one source, it seems that from crimea they are fed to the melitopol substation through the

kahovskoe substation from dzhankoyskaya friends no. in general, this is a question. i think that the russian federation is now in need of switching the zaporozhye station, judging by the events at the front. zaporozhye oblast , that's why this is such a task. they don't need it. oh, what , macron's negotiations with putin and zelensky are all on the eve of the meeting of the board of managers, and the rich who will be there before the general conference. which on september 26-30 and after that, the hero already reported that there is a draft resolution prepared by poland, canada, and judging by the demand for the withdrawal of the russian zaporozhian

assas, the creation of a zone is a little stronger than the march resolution of the governing councils. such a moment is again, the fact that the usa spoke about the need to review the veto rights for permanent members of the security council, it was already a question rose in april and here i think that our diplomats should be connected so that the measurement of the right of veto took place after all in the organization of the united nations so that it would be possible, if necessary, to attract a peacekeeping force to the un uh, to create a safety zone around the plant marko a, what is the effect, what are the consequences of the fact that the station is now completely stopped, on september 11 at 3:41 a.m., it happened like this, this sixth power unit, uh, what

is the effect of it now, uh, what is actually happening there these are the cities of the station. and what is needed to turn it on to resume work? well, they already said that it has a positive attitude towards the institution, because from the point of view of appeal security, i am a specialist in official security. it is safer if the station is not working. because when the station is working, it is in a situation where they are without a jet that's a good term before the magic scenario can happen again because it was the loss of power and as a result of the national economy as a result all four units exploded because we look at the situation honestly energy supply from the point of view of radiation safety is the best hot period if the station does not work from the point of view of radiation safety and a little from the point of view of switching i do not quite agree with the services here because i see how all russian

structures work, everyone does their own thing if you will have a mandate from the ministry for positions switch the station to the crimea, then they themselves will do things to ensure that traditionally at the front. therefore, we must be ready for such a situation. well, it is possible to do it now, if there is such an instruction, we we don't know exactly the situation. there was information that our army is going to disrupt this substation, which is key for the transmission of energy to crimea, but here the question is if they will throw a big effort of money. how long is this land? but we all understood one thing, that in russia they are now using any means of such blackmail . and how is it? you can play

use all the zaporizhzhia station, we will turn it off but i am sure that we have received such support from our western ukraine ms. olga, i would like to ask you about the prospects, so to speak, of introducing powerful sanctions against ros atom, we understand that ros atom and the kremlin fear this, that is why they rosatom is trying to be not too public in its attempts to loot our nuclear plant, a key nuclear plant for our energy security, on the other hand, there is information that certain contracts are still working concluded on the ukrainian side with roz atom, we understand that the situation is very delicate and complex, because nuclear fuel and nuclear waste are generally a separate world and a separate one . this

is the shelling of civil infrastructure and energy destruction of thermal power plants , this is another proof that russia can get the status of a sponsor of terrorism. how did latvia do it? the usa to this question but if the european countries will, uh, at the level of their state , make such a decision because all the orders that it consumes with a terrorist state are because, well, what kind of military object is the thermal power plant, that's the first thing, the second thing. as for the energy atom contracts, it supplies fuel, there was no official information that they were suspended or torn.

of nuclear energy, which rosatom liked to refer to in his notes. well, that is, they did not comment directly, but they said to me, we show the consultation, and by the way, in the report, makote, eh. as for the russians, it is clearly written there, first of all, nothing is written about consultations, only about consultations in the notes of russia addressed to magothe, and in the report of the wealthy following the mission’s visit, it is written that the representatives of rosatom eh mean eh interfere in fact in the operative activities of the personnel that negatively complain about the management of the station, in general, the staff, there is a large section of devoted, in particular, that people are fired from me, it’s almost quiet that the staff of the fire department has decreased by half, here is the structure that deals with emergency preparedness, crisis response, there are 300

people less there is no access to the emergency room to the emergency center, these things are certainly alarming, and the fact that the power supply would be light and water for several days after i think that you are interrupting, well, terror against the ukrainians workers of the nuclear plant is conscious, they consciously want to squeeze them out so that afterwards they can explain to the representatives of megate. you see, the ukrainians don’t want to work. and that’s why they use terror, that’s why they killed the diver, and that’s why they torture and insure people. they want to squeeze them out in this way. came and helped and offered temporary help to our occupying russian atomic contingent, this is a conscious policy, your version also has the right to life ms. olya thank you olha kosharna expert on issues of

nuclear energy and nuclear safety. experts, it is safe for our travelers and those who, for obvious reasons, no no, i think it is meant within the state in connection with the russian shelling of the infrastructure , a number of trains are expected to be delayed, kharkiv, sumy, and poltava directions, however, none of today's flights have been canceled, the movement continues on the entire railway network, so dear tv viewers, be careful , and of course, check the new or updated schedule of the respective directions. well, and news on the espresso channel, you will learn everything from there promptly the latest information anzhelika sezonenko

is ready to tell us about everything news anzhelika thank you for the word because of the successes from the soums because of the successful contour offensive in particular in kharkiv oblast and in the south, because of which it is shelling a number of regions about the consequences of machine guns 201 days of heroic resistance of ukrainians to the russian invaders to your attention news on espresso anzhelika sezonenko works in the studio in donetsk region in kramatorsk russian rockets hit the hospital two private houses and a garage were previously without casualties, the head of the regional military administration, pavlo kyrylenko, reported, and around midnight, the russians fired at kostyantynivka, and the dry grass there caught fire in the open