there are no power plants, that is, by the way, you mentioned the heat of the power plant. yesterday, the russians launched 12 missiles from the caspian sea, nine of them were fortunately shot down by ukrainian air defense, but three missiles still reached ukraine, in particular, in ts5 in kharkiv oblast, president zelenskyy called this the event of a terrorist attack and showed a video from the place of extinguishing the fire that arose as a result of the shelling, people were left without electricity, we can hear president zelensky even through the impenetrable darkness, ukraine and the civilized world clearly see that these acts of terrorism are intentional cynical missile strikes on civilian critical infrastructure, no military facilities from the intact kharkiv and donetsk regions in zaporizhzhia, dnipropetrovsk, sumy, partial power supply problems, you still think that we are one people, you still think that you can scare us

, break us, make us make concessions, you really do , nothing understood did not understand who we are for what we are what we are talking about without gas or without you without you without light or without you without you without water or without you without food or without you without you cold hunger darkness and thirst are not so scary and deadly for us. like your friendship and brotherhood, but history will put everything in its place and we will be with gas, light, water and food and without you. someone wrote a good text and it sounds very good, uh, president zelensky, well , at least with his official pages e-e mr. igor, it is clear. the eastern front, the southern front, crimea, and the armed forces of ukraine will return

the ukrainian state sooner or later. of the world from the caspian sea from strategic bombers over belarus over tambov or i still do not know where these weapons and these missiles can be sent from allowed us to make it impossible for us to repeat the situation when pi was also without electricity in the east of ukraine yesterday, well, look again, the missile program of the air defense system is the umbrella that can be in ukraine, let's say it should be in ukraine, in order to be able to survive near this neighbor's palm tree, this is the first thing we

still have to do. well, you know, recently there was a redistribution of funds in the parliament from the budget and the funds went to the road again, you understand. to be honest, this is what it looks like for me personally looks quite cynical well, i understand that it is very good when a wounded comrade can be taken to the hospital on a good road, but it would be better if the wounded comrade would not be injured, it is probably true it would be better if we had some kind of umbrella yes therefore, in this situation, what should we do? well, first of all, we should not make the mistakes of the past, well, that is, we clearly already understood everyone. all of ukraine understood , but nevertheless. it would be, as they say, there is a barrel of honey, and here is that spoonful of tar that happened recently, so that is, as for the text, the text is voiced by a good commander-in-chief , but he voices it as a politician, as the

commander-in-chief, not only for ukrainians but as a signal to our western partners, putin is bombing the infrastructure in ukraine in general that the population will come out with votes, peace will be demanded at any cost. time only makes us worse listen, well, i remember how there were fan outages at the kuchma, at the tailor's shop, they turned off the lights well, here, well, we are all, well, what will scare us that the light will go out, well, the light will go out well, we will not go out to demand measures at any cost, because already this blood that was spilled after all those stories about bucha, irpini and everything that happened in ukraine, you understand, well, ukrainians will no longer demand measures

at any cost, they will only demand victory and even if somewhere in the government offices of someone somewhere there will be an idea that it is necessary to start negotiation processes. ukrainians will not understand this, but would not accept it, and most importantly, they will begin to demolish that cabinet, you understand. therefore, this is a very big risk for any person who has such an opinion, we only we are counting on victory, you saw how they react, let's call it yes, mom, moms in kyiv with strollers, at the alarm signal, everyone noticed it, well, the alarm, well , we looked . in the war since 2014, well, some people began to live in the war since february 24, that is, the period when a psychologist usually takes place, as they say, 21 days. thank you. so you are such a

story. thank you, mr. igor . people's deputy of the eighth convocation thank you for participating in the program, i will remind our viewers that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on youtube and facebook platforms. if you are watching us live now, please like this video so that it is promoted in youtube trends. and don't forget subscribe to our channels in social networks on twitter in telegram on instagram we are everywhere read our news on the website espresso.tv and we are in touch with andriy illenko , an officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard from donetsk region andriy glory to ukraine glory to the heroes thank you for joining our broadcast and thank you to defend us from the russian

occupiers . such actions, as analysts say, will not end the war at the moment. it may drag on until 2023, but this special operation turned the tide of this war in its favor. did ukraine turn the tide of the war? do you agree with the statement that the course of this war has already been changed, what arguments do the russians still have in order to oppose the armed forces of ukraine? well, i think that what happened over there in the last week or so, the counteroffensive in the east is the second turning point in the war because the first turning point occurred when the muscovites fled from kiev, chernihiv and sum, and when their blitzkrieg failed. when it became clear that they would not achieve anything

in terms of a quick seizure of ukraine, the overthrow of the government, not chaos, and so on. that is, it was the first papilloma and now the second turning point really took place, when russia suffered the biggest military defeat, well, since the times of probably the biggest defeats of the soviet union in the second world war, this is the year 41-42, that is, they have not been beaten on such a scale and so humiliatingly, well, really since those times a-a and this, in my opinion, is an even more important turning point than it was at the end of march er-e because this turning point shows that we can not only wear down the enemy on the defensive while standing on the defensive and we can do well grandiose offensive operations er to redraw their huge compounds, to surround them,

to drive them out of large territories, er, to do it very quickly, rapidly, er, well, you will remember that in the last two months, even more, starting from the end of june, muscovites well, they tried attack on donbas and well, at most they moved there for a few kilometers , that is, they could not penetrate our defenses, they suffered heavy losses, and when ukraine began the counteroffensive, they literally walked 50-60-70 km there in two days, and this suggests that, in fact, this a military feat and this is a huge psychological break, a huge psychological parliament because the whole world saw that you can not just beat him, but you can simply drive him with his face on the floor, exactly

what the ukrainian army is doing now. it will finally end there in the coming weeks, it is obvious that there is still a long enough period of serious struggle ahead, but what we are seeing now is, to a certain extent, irreversible processes. that is, these are irreversible processes and by the military, and even i would say more by the political consequences, that is, within muscovy itself, we see that such a serious internal process of destabilization has already begun, and well, in fact, muscovites have always been like that. they are always there ready to forgive any tyrant, any murderer on the throne, the only thing they can't forgive is weakness, it's about a group war, and that's why i think that now putin has big problems, and he's losing his legitimacy even inside russia, well,

obviously putin and his minions are trying everything to initiate some negotiations with ukraine at least during the last two weeks, there were different versions of what negotiations could be, on what terms, of course, the russians say that only on the terms of the russian federation, at the same time, president zelenskyi says that he is not ready to negotiate with russia now, let's hear from the president zelensky's sense of me is that we have a relative sense of non-terrorists, even terrorists can communicate because they know what they want, i will let go of this plane, i need money, i will let go people, give them money and a plane. there is no confidence that they will tell you that they will do it. i think that they will not. no one believes . as they say, comrades do not shake hands, it is

for what they did and not even for that. and in what format he killed not according to the rules of war and now he was killed. and he went to a peaceful man, raped, tortured and killed him . he is not a terrorist, because if he did it for the sake of a stove, then who is he? what is he not even a terrorist, that is, a terrorist who does not know what they want and is ready to give an ultimatum therefore they should come and first, to a different status, to become just an enemy so that we can open a diplomatic corridor with them and from our territories until the moment they become terrorists, they must leave , leave until this moment, they must show the political will that they are ready to give back someone else's

land, then we can at least talk about some corridors that open certain diplomatic steps, by the way, during the last few days, uh , there have been various uh, various proposals to ukraine from various sources regarding western sources to sit down at the negotiating table with the russian federation, the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov, said that we can sit down at the negotiating table only when the troops of the russian federation withdraw to the borders that are as of august 24, 1991, that is, the liberation of crimea, the withdrawal from the kherson region the withdrawal of zaporizhzhia oblast, what is the withdrawal from donetsk region, and in fact, the complete deoccupation of the territory of the ukrainian state, at the same time, president

zelensky, whom you just heard, gave an interview with cnn, quoting zelensky, i know that some countries are pushing the direction of the minsk process. i want the world to recognize that one thing is a diplomatic solution and the other is minsk-2 minsk - three minsk- minsk-5 minsk 10 - these are two different things because minsk is an empty piece of paper zelensky said, does he mean the minsk agreements added that an agreement between the two countries can be concluded after russia leaves ukrainian territory without clarifying what he means, friends, you know that the russian federation has never kept any agreements with ukraine since the restoration of ukrainian independence on august 24, 1991, tens if not hundreds of hours were concluded between ukraine and russia, all these agreements were set aside when russia needed it. we

remember that there was an agreement, a big agreement on the recognition of the territorial integrity of ukraine and the ukrainian hm state, that is, the borders of the ukrainian state since 1997, this great agreement was signed by president kuchma and president yeltsin back then yeltsin told his oprichniks who flew to kyiv and held talks with kuchma in the mariinsky in the palace, he said that you should wake up and think about ukraine every morning, but what did yeltsin mean then, did he think that putin would replace him literally in a few years, and this putin would start a war, first a covert one, and then a full-scale war against ukraine of the state , yeltsin obviously did not guess about this and did not know, although there were probably certain prerequisites

before that, we know that russia absolutely uh-uh hated all the agreements in the format of the budapest memorandum because they guaranteed us which after the ukrainian state gave uh nuclear weapons uh russia absolutely uh quietly violated this agreement russia violates all the agreements it concluded with ukraine and denounces all agreements however , it is obvious uh and the reaction to these words of zelenskyi is indicative that were made regarding the impossibility of conducting negotiations with the russian federation, and dmitry medvedev, the deputy chairman of the security council of the russian federation, says that no one zelensky said that he will not conduct a dialogue on the topic of who issues ultimatums, current ultimatums, children's warm-up before the demands of the future and he knows

the total capitulation of the kiev regime on the conditions of russia. well, this is medvedev's quote. we are in touch again. andrii illenko, an officer of the freedom battalion in the national guard of ukraine, a politician is currently a fighter of the freedom battalion, which is located in donetsk region. andrii, i have already quoted zelensky and medvedev regarding possible negotiations . medvedev says that, in fact, they are waiting for capitulation, as he says of the kyiv regime on условия россии we have already seen putin's reaction the historical reaction to the offensive in kharkiv region, an attack on civilian infrastructure, critical infrastructure objects in kharkiv region, what do you think? what other arguments could there be that could be on putin's side in order to force zelensky to sit down at the negotiating table, communication problems, and therefore the

situation the following is what the muscovites are doing now, namely that we have started targeted shelling of the energy facilities there, the power plant, and so on. this is actually the tactics of the weak. that is, it means that they lost completely on the battlefield of their this the agitated so-called second army of the world well , it was guessed, let’s call it that and now it’s just draping from ukrainian lands. and this is classic terrorism, and actually terrorism, it’s always the tactics of the weak, that is, those who actually can’t use any conventional means, you can’t use, well, actually there, military places in the classical sense, that is, and they are added to terrorist methods, well, actually, it is a

terrorist state, russia is a terrorist state, and the only tactic that can be adequate in relation to terrorists is to destroy terrorists. well, it is not spring with of course, there are no negotiations with them. and that is, what is putin really counting on? he is probably counting on the fact that with these actions he will sow some kind of panic in ukrainian society, that he will thus force the ukrainian authorities to some negotiations and some concessions, but the situation has gone so far and ukrainians are now so are united and have such a great fighting spirit that it is absolutely impossible. in no case will there actually be this ukrainian offensive that will continue and it will be impossible to stop it and so they can cause harm, unfortunately, this is not news , they have done it before

. secondly, well , i’m definitely not going to give the advice of the general staff there. but it seems to me that the power plants that are not only on the territory of ukraine, that’s right, they are on the territory of the russian federation, they are on the occupied territories in the same crimea in the same donetsk luhansk well and so on in the border regions of russia and the border regions with ukraine, so i understand that we already have opportunities, maybe someone there will start smoking soon at some objects well, i don't know, again, these are my thoughts i believe that it is necessary to give an adequate response to these actions, therefore, in any case, it is not me, it will have a

global impact on something, there may be difficult times, it will obviously be a very difficult winter in ukraine, but we will persevere, we will win, and well, we have no other way . medvedev, quoted by me, already spoke about that we can we arrange a doomsday there or something similar, threatening the ukrainians if they enter the territory of the annexed crimea, as the commander of the united states army in europe, general benhodges commented on the possibility of the russian federation using nuclear weapons, there is a risk of the kremlin using nuclear weapons in this situation, but i think it is unlikely i do not think that putin or his closest advisers are determined to commit suicide. he added that the united states of america has responded in the event of russia's use of nuclear weapons, because china, north korea and iran are watching this. andriy, how likely is it that russia will use nuclear or chemical

weapons against ukraine? there is another hangover from which he will probably not get out. and if we talk about the possibility of using nuclear weapons, well, of course, we cannot completely exclude such a possibility, because we really have dealing with terrorists with absolute maniacs on the other hand i also agree with that assessment of the american general i consider it extremely unlikely that is completely such a probability cannot be excluded but i consider it extremely unlikely because really for putin for all these gangs of his will be an absolutely suicidal step, the answer to everything will be unambiguous, and the answer is already from the entire civilized world, but in

any case, unfortunately, we live in such a time that we must be ready for absolutely everything, but i will also say that i am absolutely not a supporter of inflating some historical pretext, i also think that it is very unlikely and i am almost sure that it is an unreal story german defense minister kristina lambrecht said in an interview with politiko that ukraine is currently protecting the security of europe in the fight against russia, quoting our values democracy freedom and security are protected in ukraine because we see the strategy of president putin to spread fear and also to threaten that he may go further, at the same time the minister of defense of germany stressed that her country should learn from the mistakes of past years and adopt a national security strategy that paid more attention to military needs, well , considering that the germans are now reviewing their national strategy, it is obvious that ukraine

should also review the national security strategy and , in general, how much do you think the economy and all structures in ukraine, which are currently working as far as they should be transferred to the military rails in the conditions of wartime, it is also meant in terms of how the population should prepare or continue to prepare for the war that remains in the rear, and before preparing for a protracted war with the russian federation, certain steps are obviously needed, certain directions that must be developed in the state well, i think that in fact there are many things, as practice actually shows, and these last ones have been there for almost 7 months of a full-scale war, then ukraine was able to effectively readjust to the wartime regime. of course, there are many aspects where it could have been done much better. and it

seems to me that one of the main tools is struggle with collaborators struggle for the internal fifth column but it seems to me that the work here is simply not over i believe that this work was carried out effectively enough in relation to the fact that there are changes in approaches in germany. well, you know, ah, well, on the one hand, it is good that they have finally realized the realities of certain things, but still, words are not enough today to me it seems that just words are not enough, and today we need actions, decisive actions, and actions that break the patterns that are still there. six months ago, no one could have imagined that there would be such actions, but precisely such actions are needed today in order to, including

germany, i believe that this is a country of course, she is not to blame for what is happening now. it is all on russia, but part of the responsibility, including on germany, is because it was germany that was the flagship of, let's say, the most loyal to russia politicians in europe, germany was the main as an economic partner of russia in europe, it was germany that carried out all these projects of the type of clinical flows and, to the maximum extent, sat down on russia with a basic needle, planted that europe was pumped with money on the russian gas needle, accordingly, russia , therefore, i believe that germany bears a part, including moral responsibility, for that that this monster has grown up, that's why today is not just words, not just statements, today we need deliveries of heavy equipment to ukraine today we need deliveries of the most modern weapons to ukraine today we need

money for the support of the ukrainian economy for the support of the ukrainian army, that is, these are the real steps we expect from germany today, just to say that oh, sorry, there was a mistake, that's all, we introduced the wrong policy there for 30 years, i wanted to marry, that means we wanted to be friends with putin, we were friends with him and suddenly we realized that it was a mistake, well, mistakes must be corrected with actions, not words, that's why we are waiting for actions from germany, mr. andriy, have the events in kharkiv oblast affected the front in donetsk oblast, or is the shelling intensifying? that now the russians have been looted as they say in their official press releases or are they still in a state of shock fleeing from our troops in the kharkiv region well, the fact that they are in a state close to a juicy one this is absolutely true, i do not think

that they have the opportunity, let's say, to carry out some large-scale offensive actions, they tried to carry them out for the last two and a half months, and by and large nothing came out of them now, against the background of the fact that their entire northern flank collapsed, and there it was a complete failure, if we also in fact, we don't even know what the maximum attacks of the ukrainian counterattack will be, because we don't want to run ahead and make some announcements, it's wrong . something large-scale will be imposed on us in the near future, i think it is a little realistic, the story is now an initiative, a strategic initiative on our side, perhaps on such a scale for the first time in this war, and this i say once again, it is extraordinary and moral and

political breakthrough thank you, mr. andriy, for the conversation. this was andriy illenko, an officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, who is fighting in donetsk region for today, friends. i say goodbye until tomorrow . tomorrow we will be visiting volodymyr yelchenko, the former permanent representative of ukraine to the united nations. russia's position on the world market and in world politics, whether or not putin will go to the g20 meeting, how putin is perceived after the defeat of russian troops in the kharkiv region in the world, which countries can help us in this difficult time and join the rammstein group in a word, there are many, many questions that affect foreign policy, we will talk about it all again. i will remind you with volodymyr yechenko tomorrow at 1:00 p.m.

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