evgeny zakharov p yevgeny, we congratulate you good day good day well here is a specific case volodymyr matsokin told us at the very end when a high-rise building simply collapsed and people and small children remained blocked such examples of russian crimes as they are now they are going to document how it is right to commit such crimes we document and uh, we have a lot of such cases in our database , that's what i'm saying, we're talking about the initiative of the tribunal for putin, which covers the entire country, in our database now there are 18,000 uh, 900 episodes of crimes from them in the kharkiv kharkiv region, where the kharkiv trial group works, there are more than 5,000 such

crimes. well, i want to say that these kinds of destructions are about 70% of the total number. well, i want to draw attention to another category of crimes that are less talked about. case in that the occupiers kidnapped those people who, in their opinion, could become their opponents. no matter what politicians resisted, they simply kidnapped such people. these are former combatants at the previous stage of the war. these are police officers. border guards, deputies of local councils of entrepreneurs , journalists, journalists, teachers, and there were even such priests, yes, there are a lot of such people, we have documented 24 people who were thus

kidnapped from them in the kharkiv region around 1:00 a.m., almost half of them go to kherson region , zaporizhzhia luhansk region, and they are in these four regions cover, well, in fact, 99% of all abductees, so i want to say that the people who were found are those who managed to free themselves or who were freed, and only tens were reported. hundreds and where are these people today? well, these are the questions that we and our law enforcement agencies have to answer. the fact is that they were held in unofficial places of deprivation of liberty . well, for example, it is known that in vovchansk, it was the vovchansk aggregate plant, where people were really tortured. we know something about it, some of those who all after all,

he resigned and gave us information about it, which is on our website, the same story happened in kupyansk, and so on, but there are hot people who gave this information, the locals knew who was the teacher, who was the priest, who was the comrade, they had lists the russians had previously prepared lists of those whom they considered their enemies. and who formed them. i'm sorry, i'll check. and who formed these lists? they didn't write them themselves. where did they get this information ? this is an interesting question. i can't answer who exactly formed them. the fact that they were given information, as they are still given information and pointing to certain objects for bombing, unfortunately, it is kept

quite tightly, everyone has such an impression, uh, of these wobbles, well, there were collaborators who also this was done and we know many such cases when, say, a former policeman on filtering points to this one, that one, that one, these are my former police colleagues, and they were immediately taken to a camp for 30 days for this filtering, and that was all, this also needs the attention of the security services ukraine's law enforcement agencies, the police, in particular, also to identify these people, and it is necessary to deal with these unofficial places of detention, find them and try to find those people. well, at least you understand if they are alive, those who them and

well, for more than two weeks, more than a month, more than two months, and even more, it was unknown whether they were taken somewhere, etc. all these crimes must be investigated and the perpetrators must be brought to justice . with the aim of depriving people of electricity, now my native kharkiv is again without electricity, it was again yesterday evening suffocated at 12:00 at night, but today they were shelled again and again, there is no electricity and what it is interesting that the russian propagandists said that this is the answer to the... this is the russian answer to the... to the hopes of the ukrainian armed forces, this is the logic. and you

, they, to the military defeat, they answer to whom in civil security, they can't call it anything else, and i i think that on this occasion it is necessary to ask a very serious question in kharkiv oblast from what you collected. what are the most egregious facts of crimes arrested without any court decision without any grounds , in fact, where did these people go? happened to them with all this, we need to deal with it, were there any facts of sexual violence for your information, were there appeals about these facts, quite a lot of people say that there were facts of sexual violence, but since i have no confirmations of such

uh, weighty and there is no evidence of such cases well, we ca n't talk about it in the database, eh. few such crimes are documented for this very reason, and i will note that the law enforcement agencies actually have opened criminal proceedings, so much so that there was a lot about it for half a year under the russians now a huge number of people who have received, for example, a russian passport, what to do with him, is he a traitor or not, he just received a ukrainian one according to ukrainian legislation, another russian e-e teachers who came to teach in a ukrainian school were caught in kharkiv oblast, apparently no crime according to ukrainian legislation which crime according to which article it can be interpreted like this or people who just now left for russia in cars or six there in ukrainian if they return them again tomorrow they will accept you in ukraine they will say please continue

here live you left lived now come back that is, is there any understanding of what to do with those people who in one way or another cooperated with the occupier or simply lived under his rule and worked there, i don’t know in schools, local administrations there , a person worked as a cleaner in the administration, was she a collaborator or not? is she a secretary, a collaborator or not? that is, is there some kind of mechanism, scheme, please? well, i think that there is no need to bend this stick too hard, so to speak, to assume a cleaner who worked there for money and cleaned the room for collaborators. it seems to me that it is wrong to consider others who worked for the occupation, for example, doctors, they performed their duties, they treated people, and er, they cannot be considered collaborators

, the situation is more complicated er, here with teachers it is well known that there was intense pressure on them to teach under other programs and they were required to sign new programs for which they were granted in russia, so how to consider those who signed these programs collaborators or not well, strictly speaking, collaborators, but still, i think that it is necessary to take into account the situation in which these people were, because refusing such things threatened them with the same deprivation of liberty, torture, etc. and there were such threats. well, i know well here i know more about this situation in the kherson region, for example in kherson itself, about the kharkiv region, so far this information

is unknown to me in detail, but i would simply say a priori that it is necessary to bring to justice those who, by their actions, contributed to the occupation to the authorities, first of all those concerning the teachers, let's say if they, uh, supported the council, if they wanted it and did all this voluntarily, then they can be held accountable for uh, collaboration, if you forced it already, i think uh, it was no exaggeration at all be an individual approach in each specific situation for all such people because there is no collective war, well, it is always individual, mr. yevgeny, it's just the same raisin - it's uh, 46,000 people, but ahead of us are donetsk and luhansk, cities of millions and uh

it will be very difficult to check the fate of each of these millions of people who live there. how do you feel about the idea of ​​introducing a non-citizen passport in ukraine for such people who lived there for 8 years, a certain part of which was under occupation? er, give a frame for this. a status that discriminates, as for me, it is written incorrectly. thank you, mr. evgeny. evgeny zakharov, chairman of the board of kharkiv, agent of the village union on human rights and director of the kharkiv human rights group on collaborators let's continue to talk with iryna fedoriv , ​​editor-in-chief of the website of the movement honestly, mrs. iryna congratulations, i wish you good health. how do you feel about the idea of ​​introducing a passport for a non-citizen? i support the previous guest in the studio. we can only act within the law. we cannot violate

the rights of citizens if someone violated the law, then we have to bring him to justice for the fact that he violated this or that article, but well, we cannot act in such a way that citizens take away their citizenship, they are even responsible according to the law if they they violated some article, the question, well, first of all, a law can be passed, any law on the status of a citizen can be passed, 226 signatures bye -bye in 8 years in the same luhansk in donetsk, well, first of all, a huge number of people were born, were born and received passports of the dnr the lpr is a huge number of people, hundreds of thousands, and now they have passports of the ldr with passports of russia, young people there, who were 18 then, now they are 26, why should they automatically issue ukrainian passports or what ? look, uh, i think that lawyers have a say in this work but if you and i do not recognize the lpr and the

dpr and we do not recognize the lpr and the dpr, then the passports of the so -called lpr and dpr - these are just pieces of paper, of course , but they can have russian passports at the same time, so what is the issue with these people in ukraine a prohibited dual citizen of n countries and is a citizen of russia, in order to acquire the citizenship of ukraine, she will have to lose her russian citizenship, so if we talk about the lpr and the so-called dpr, then all they told people there were pieces of paper, just like the bodies that they are created, fake bodies in let's not compare the main ones and look at the constitution , the only possible citizenship in our country is ukrainian citizenship and the constitution and the main law is russian citizenship. well, it means that with russian citizenship you cannot get ukrainian

. in particular, the eastern part, well, from the central part, there is this half, the right half, right-bank ukraine, please find a safe place, it is obvious that the moon is russian, left-bank, i'm sorry, yes, well, ladies iryna, your clients are fleeing in the meantime serhii gaidai, the head of the luhansk regional military administration, reports that whole queues of occupiers and collaborators have formed, and they are fleeing from luhansk region with suitcases. well, the occupiers have recommended to the collaborators that they be released as soon as possible to leave those territories, so that they have not yet released, but it is obviously expected who should be afraid and here are those who are fleeing, how do they get on your lists well, i can say that literally today at a meeting of the chesny movement, it was decided to urgently start a burgundy company in the liberated territories, because we understand that

there are people who flee, but there are those who remain and are against us, and we need to know information about others . -a surname, patronymic name, everything they know about those whom they suspect or are absolutely sure are collaborators, traitors or overstayers, we will definitely check this information and attach it to the special services. our task is to conduct such information campaign with the participation of citizens in the east, south of the country and in the kyiv region, because we understand that we have more expensive troops in the north of our region. in this direction. what do you know about the detention - this is one of the latest

news of the day of the ex-head of the security service of ukraine of the kharkiv region, roman dudin, was he on your lists of colomorants, i know for sure that his there is a profile. well, i don’t know when we created it exactly. i understand what happened when there was suspicion of treason and they know that on may 30 zelensky released him, but duding himself made an excuse that he allegedly spoke in kyiv region after the release and that is why he was not questioned well, we also need to work on this case, i think that we will still be in contact with law enforcement agencies and special services in order to get more information about it, mrs. iryna. thousands of thousands, 1,100 people who simply disappeared, there are former people of the soviet union, teachers, priests, well, opinion leaders and

activists, and these lists were written by someone, what do you think? who are these people, who were involved in creating these lists, are they russians ? the russians were obviously drawn up, that's probably why evgeny zakharov said that the russians when they came, there were already lists, they didn't even receive any information from the local population after the occupation began, they immediately knew who to go to, now iryna fedorov will join and fell off a little we are waiting for a communication about the collaborators, we are talking about them because after the release, one of the first topics after security, actually, after the sappers, are the collaborators who remain because it is possible to prove the fact, it is very difficult. well, according to the latest information from our intelligence the new administration about kharkiv oblast according to the gur data, during the escape, the occupiers engaged in mass looting, loading

generators, telephones, computers taken from ukrainians into cars, there were many recorded cases of looting of schools, even horizontal barbells and sports equipment were taken from gymnasiums projectiles in one table, they stole a bus, and while they left it 6 km away, 36 bodies of the occupiers were found in it. this is the story. irina fedorov , please. there was a question from nevylevskaya. someone formed them, well, they were formed by the russians . them and you zakharov said that when they entered ukraine, they already had all the lists ready, who do you think filled these lists and pro-russian parties were banned? maybe there were people who provided information. well, we understand what is a part of state traitors and collaborators from among the law enforcement bodies of judges well, that's why i think that they 100% worked on more than one segment of the

audience, er, they worked here with politicians and with law enforcement officers and judges and received maximum information from there ms. iryna please tell me what now it is happening with uh-uh legislation uh-uh, because this director of the kyiv lyceum did escape from custody, so who was accused of collaborating with the russians, she simply left for the territory of hungary, and the state the border service said that we didn't have any information that she couldn't be released, but she didn't have any restrictions on leaving the country, we released her, how do you go about this? it's a very wrong system of people who are suspected of collaborationism in adjusting the fire, what do you think if we are talking about the fact that we have evidence of a person who adjusted the fire in the armed forces of ukraine and can adjust it there in schools and kindergartens and we release her

and she can continue to be under fire well, what kind of social danger are we creating? well, of course there may be a lynching, therefore the correction we tried very quickly to push through the parliament through the committees, we succeeded, but unfortunately kyiv region and here, apparently, the judge is responsible personally, because the judge gives a decision in the name of the law, in the name of ukraine, and at his own discretion. he also read that this person is charged with this well, crimes against the people, he then covered himself with the norm of the law that was in force, the question is what is the law called, but he was not obliged to be correct, that is, leave the bridge under you, leave the light and water in a different way, and the subway stopped and on it is a pity that there are victims, the head of the kharkiv regional military administration, oleg sinegubov, said that the russian occupiers struck kharkiv, a road surface in the kyiv region was hit, and

unfortunately, one person died, doctors continue to work, information is being added, four victims were also added, according to sinegubov , in addition, traffic was temporarily stopped in the city metro, the metro staff was instructed how to act in such cases. all passengers who were on the trains got out, they were helped to do this, they were taken out by the city ihor terekhov, informing the city of the structures that the light in the city is taking over again, wrote already yes yes there is no light in the whole city the lady is lying there is no light everywhere in the city completely yes yes now there is no water and there is no water either so it is necessary it was uh the last

flights arrived yes about an hour and a half two, you don't have the main information, because we are dealing with fixing the power supply, that's why poroshenko, i don't know the exact situation. sorry, it's a thermal power plant again, or what a hit, can you say when it was, you won't understand it more now the head is to make electricity supply and prepare for winter, that's all, i'm just now making a lot of calls with our european partners to those who have destruction here too, unfortunately, i can't say what exactly you are preparing, how are you preparing for winter, well, in

such conditions, when the water suddenly disappears, the light disappears, what are you planning the measures, well, first of all, it will be the purchase of various generators of different power, eh, the first priority now will be the purchase, i can’t say more so as not to betray the enemy where he can be kissed, as well as the mood now in kharkiv, because the previous day was also restless, but everyone understands that it is necessary to hold on and finish the new thing to the end. thank you, sir, for finding a few minutes for our broadcast. oleg abramichev, a member of the kharkiv city council, said about the last flights that tornadoes were the most likely to arrive in kharkiv and there is no

power supply there now, the entire city is completely out of power and the subway is not working, people were brought out with the help of backup e-e of these power sources, there is an increase in the road surface in the kyiv district, he said the mayor and, unfortunately, one person died as a result of the arrival of the latter in kharkiv, and four more are injured. by the way, i found a photo of a colleague of the judges who released alla dushkina . then another last name, i still haven't found it. i found only a photo , we will show it after the news and identify these people. well, let's just name the judges who released the state traitor, but in parentheses, the one who was included left for hungary. and now in a nato country and a country of the european union there is a calm corrective fire of obviously

russians on the russian occupiers of the sbu then in court and the prosecutor spoke about the fact that the sbu has indisputable evidence of the participation of this but dushkina precisely in the adjustment of the artillery fire of the russian occupiers, well, on ukrainian and military and civilian objects , it is interesting how these were controlled there are three, when are the duties of the court of kyiv very judges, uh, we hope that the judicial reform after the victory will be one of the first that we will complete to the end in the end anna eva melnyk with news to us on eva to you thank you colleagues, the most important news edition will tell you in a few moments, in particular, that france and romania are expanding as a sport