of the members of the mission, in particular, i would like to remind that the head of the un mission is a retired lieutenant general from brazil, where we remember a lot, by the way. yes, alberto before santos cruz was among those, so what dmytro lubinets wrote on facebook about this person, yes, about this general alberto before santos actively supported the current extreme right-wing president of brazil as part of his election campaign. even after the election, it is worth reminding that the president himself held a meeting with putin in moscow on february 16, 2022 , where he expressed solidarity with russia without clarification of the circumstances a already in a few days suspended the powers of his vice president hamilton murav for comparing russian aggression, that is, he compared russian aggression with the attacks of hitler's invasion in europe in the 1930s, after which he was fired by the president of brazil for his election during the campaign this

brazilian general, who is now going to the deer park at the head of the un mission, was very vipagitator, his name is alberto do santos. have you read this question of dmytro lubinets, mrs. elena, do you agree with the human rights representative of the parliament dmytro valeriyovych expressed his doubts about the neutrality of this mission, saying that general alberto do santos cruz, who heads the un mission in brazil, actively supported the current extreme right-wing president of brazil during the election campaign . even after his election, he reminded that zhair balsanarov the president of brazil held a meeting personally with putin in moscow on february 16 of this year, expressed solidarity with russia without specifying the circumstances, and within a few days he suspended the powers of his vice president hamilton muravo, who compared

russian aggression to hitler's invasion attacks in the 1930s in europe, well, he wrote a lubinets to himself on facebook. do you, well, do you agree that there are questions about the neutrality of this un mission, see the united nations was not created in order to support any of the parties. for certain parties, let's say yes to monitor the observance of human rights and if this is the secretary general of the un or what is his correct job title, i'm sorry he can't er, well, he accepts one of the parties. so he is already , let's say, professionally unsuitable for this position, and in this way, in principle, we will determine and

clarify the situation within ourselves. to what extent, in principle, can we trust this organization, and in fact, er, i think that there are levers who will be able to change the situation and , uh, we are now there to stop it. here, on our story , it is simply, uh, a good question of the geneva convention on human rights, and, uh, bad communication, olena tolkachova, the head of the patronage service of the azov regiments, about the fact that the un has the closest days to arrive in the occupied city of olenivka, donetsk region, mrs. elena, the connection was interrupted, you talked about that letter, you are collecting signatures there, you are addressing it to the secretary general of the united nations, so please articulate again what they are demanding, you are the sole owner of the united nations organization, which is established -he is the leader and here

the position is important, the position of the entire united nations organization and not some individual person who has some of his own preferences eh if eh because of eh some of his personal eh preferences eh he will harm the observance of human rights by his actions. i believe that the united nations should treat such a person with no faith. well, here it is clear that either the leadership of the united nations must be changed or that the organization of the united nations must be influenced by them. again, some of their special meetings that they hold under this, which do not bring any results, but if it is already

here , it is simply obvious. i think again, this will be an occasion for the united nations organization to think about who is in charge of this organization at the moment. thank you, ms. elena, and we wish you success in the collection of signatures in the appeal to the united nations olena tolkachova, head of the patronage service of the azov regiment, a mission is to arrive in the next few days to the reindeer herder in the donetsk region, and we remember that there was a mass murder of ukrainian prisoners of war , about 50 of us prisoners of war from our countries died two months ago, so they will be there to investigate in two months what evidence of murder they can find after it is interesting whether the un will once again demonstrate its stupidity or will there still be

any results how many latin americans are now deciding the fate of ukraine the pope and an argentine head of megate an argentinian person who will come to head the commission who a brazilian will solve a crime in a deer park. i just think that the fate of ukraine is probably for latin americans. well, not so close, not as close as, for example, for the poles or lithuanians or the germans, the french, and the british. this is my personal yes. meanwhile, the lviv volunteers are demanding a meeting. do you want to meet with the leaders of the regional security forces and stop the persecution at the end of last week? we will remind you that the volunteers appealed to the authorities due to mass searches. at the moment, the appeal was sent to the lviv regional military administration, and on september 20, at the session of the lviv regional council deputies plan to listen to information from these same law enforcement agencies about the state of affairs regarding the persecution of

volunteers before law enforcement officers came with searches to the lviv volunteer oleg yanitskyi and the famous linguist svyatoslav lytynskyi, and a criminal case was initiated against the artist oles dzindra and the volunteer yurii muzychuk. well, this is what the volunteers themselves say. the person who provided us with the premises free of charge from february 24 asked us to leave today due to the fact that the searches volunteers and he is very worried about the fact that they will come to him and he will have a lot of problems. for us, it's just terrible, because we have to transfer this help and take it, there is simply nowhere for us to go there is still a small warehouse, but there are more medicines. accordingly, we are now simply in shock because of all the searches, what is happening and how people are already starting. only those who help are afraid, but people abroad are writing and calling me and telling us what is happening, we are afraid to transfer help to me it seems that all volunteers are nightmares. and we see

the nightmares of those who have been working since the 14th year. and why do i emphasize from the 14th those who have stayed afloat in volunteer activities since the 14th year, this means that they are crystal clear in front of people, because otherwise people did not give money for such a long time, because there were many moments when there was no money at all, and those volunteers worked all the time, but at the same time, we see how things are stalled in the zaporizhia military administration in the volyn military administration. i don't really like it when volunteers are divided into those who from the 14th and these, which already seem to me to be the same thing, but on the other hand , in fact, the case of the zaporizhia administration has died down, and the searches of volunteers continue, and we cannot talk about this, the regional leadership the head of the region, the mayor, there are a lot of interesting people, and here it’s just an artist, who’s there, hmm , mykhailo tsimbalyuk is with us, the people’s deputy of ukraine,

we will talk to him, ask him, the first deputy chairman of the council committee on social policy, the lieutenant general of the police, by the way , mykhailo, we welcome you, sir general of good health, that there is really a different approach in our country regarding the investigation of abuses during volunteer activities, when in zaporizhzhia we have the head of the region and the mayor in the case of the deputy the head of the region is allegedly involved, then we somehow announced the dbr about searches together with the sbu and nothing for two weeks, nothing. not a word, and here and there, volunteers are some artists, artists and poets , well-known people and leaders of public opinion without government positions, then they are they are starting to promote the full program, they are actively informing about what is happening there in cases and so on. mykhailo, as an employee of the law enforcement agencies, how do you

evaluate these different situations? there was no preconceived notion of one thing or another . i will say that volunteering is an extremely necessary and honorable mission today, and i really agree that you cannot divide those who are from the 14th, who are just now. everyone does their job and does everything they can from grandmother who knits socks for the military, and in conclusion, those people who invest do not have any money personally, honestly earned and do their job without unnecessary advertising, as for the searches that are conducted, well, first of all, i want to say that the verkhovna rada gave a tool for law enforcement officers and this scalpel is a tool after passing a bill to strengthen responsibility for abuse or for the sale of

humanitarian aid. so this is serious. why? because you can’t make money in wartime on such noble things when the military expects help. and it is sold and or squandered left and right, but on the other hand you can't cast a shadow on the honest, on the millions of honest people who do their work , because of that, the situation here is very ambiguous and difficult, and law enforcement officers should not forget that they are endowed by law to engage in crime prevention, that is, if there is the slightest information about the preparation of a crime , then there is no need to wait, there is no need to provoke, but on the contrary to warn in order to prevent people from committing this crime. the proceedings

are under the regional authorities, people say that they first want the openness of this process, the volunteers themselves are for the fact that if such people have committed a crime, that they bear legal responsibility, but on the other hand there should be an equal approach to all crimes in zaporizhzhia, it seems to me that the search was carried out jointly by the security service, mihai , i was wrong, the consequences are completely different, i do not believe that the current government can influence the national anti-corruption bureau or, in fact, as far as is known, they still conduct their activities more or less independently, and an anti-corruption prosecutor has already been appointed, who, in my opinion, has already shown himself to be a professional , so i would not combine them in the lviv case. i personally submitted several parliamentary requests and in

dbr and the office of the prosecutor general regarding those circumstances, and as an expert, i have many questions before these searches were conducted. i understand that the court authorized them, probably with sufficient grounds, but to conduct searches in the presence of minor children and, er, and their mother, that is excuse me there are certain procedural points of violation and whether it was necessary to conduct the head of a public organization, who at that time is in the neighboring state of poland. to wait for him, that is, it is important here that, firstly, the presumption of innocence cannot cast a shadow on people who have not yet received a court verdict, and the thing is that there should be as fast and transparent a pre-trial investigation process as possible,

materials should be sent to the court so that if a person is guilty, he should be punished a if she is innocent, then those who carried out their work in relation to svyatoslav in an unprofessional manner should be punished. i have known him for many years, he is a really successful businessman - he is a person who has won several judges, unprecedented to your state regarding the passport and there are pages of the russian language among other things, he was one of the candidates for the language monogamy, so i would not like there to be questions about some political bias, but the searches were not carried out by lviv law enforcement officers, but from kyiv. i know which one there is a practice or sometimes there is mistrust of local law enforcement officers and colleagues from the center can carry out operational search measures or carrying out such e-e measures as searches without agreement with local

colleagues, it is possible that it is unrecognizable and it is possible the sufficiency of the materials for conducting such measures, emphasize once again that we, as a people's deputy, will keep control as much as possible regarding the non-disclosure of a-a secrets of the investigation into this process , otherwise, it is true that many people give up, and this is unacceptable during martial law and when someone will say that let's wait for some things after the victory. and here i'm sorry. no one waits if they're criminals. let's drink if they're not guilty. you who didn't carry out the work professionally even in the first days of a large-scale operation the so-called, but in fact, the war was not in kyiv, but in others. yes, i mean some of the heads of law enforcement agencies, gentlemen, as a lawyer , you know the assessment, don’t you think that there is some ordered or coordinated wave of discrediting

the volunteer movement, and on the other hand, there is well, the facts of the abuses of the regional authorities, well, in particular, there are terrible things about zaporizhzhia, there are some wagons, automobile tanks, sea containers, well, in the list, which appear, and then there is no steam from the mouth, there is no comment regarding the continuation what is your assessment of this case? as a lawyer, please look first at the zaporizhzhia case . as far as i understand, mr. mykhailo has confirmed that the investigation is underway accordingly. i think we will hear a lot more about this. all those responsible for the distribution of humanitarian aid and embezzlement of state funds, funds of charitable funds , funds of western partners eventually ended up behind bars, and this issue is not even zaporizhia's, and it should be investigated without taking into account any

any surname that stands now as embezzlement , whether it is the mayor or a judge. by the way, how were the situations in chernihiv oblast, whether it was some cultural figure, everyone should be punished . time for the country, for the state. everyone must answer, and this from my point of view, well, it should be equated with treason, regarding what we were talking about in paris, regarding lviv oblast, i understand how law enforcement agencies work, what some local law enforcement officials they will go to some volunteer, they understand that this case can be public if he does not have confirmation about the decomposition. moreover, he will not go to some volunteer who does not have the appropriate grounds and confidence that there is really some uh some crime in kyiv. well, it won't be because they get

much worse than if they don’t climb at all, but in general volunteer work, after all , all volunteers are happy not to have to deal directly with money, any money they can one way or another how to lead to criminal cases take money in your hand, you want to raise money, there are no questions. go to charity funds, negotiate with them, let them receive official funds and buy with these funds. if you need it , sooner or later. it is a crime that you are selling off this humanitarian aid and only in this way you can fully defend yourself, there are no other options, mr. mykhailo, how do you see what it is called, stabilization operations in the liberated territories, as lieutenant general militia well, the first thing is the release, and then

what? how to clear this territory not only from the enemy, but also from the locals who helped the enemy , how to restore order in these territories , establish the government, well, once again, i want to express my great gratitude to all our volunteers, because they have already started in the de-occupied territories, and of course we are extremely grateful to our armed forces of ukraine and all the military formations that participated there, the military did their job, they freed the occupier, but now there is the next stage by the way, the ministry of integration is preparing amendments to the law or a separate law, because not everything is legislative yet regulated. because ukraine is facing such a situation for the first time, that is why the national guard and the national police need

to enter that territory now. oblasts of ukraine, this is the testimony of operatives, whose task is to first go in and establish who stayed there unambiguously . communicating with the local population, it is a very difficult question regarding those who betrayed the state. collaborators need to be installed together with them, the state emergency service comes in regarding the expansion of the territory, this is also a very complicated process, and then the ukrainian authorities are installed, those who actually left the territory are returned, this means local authorities and military-civilian administrations are being created, and now there is a discussion if simply military administrations in order to actually establish ukrainian or restore ukrainian state power there is also a serious challenge that many

there are still agents of the fsb in that territory , and the security service of ukraine, our counter-intelligence, will be involved. that is, it is still a very important and difficult path in order for those who broke the law and betrayed ukraine to be punished legally , but in spite of what they say among the people honest people who actually spoke about the ukrainian position were caught, but now they will need evidence that someone can slander them, because in fact such information is already coming from there, in particular, about deputies of local councils who were in difficult situations because of that task for everyone, i am sure that our law enforcement agencies will succeed and the military will go on to liberate the ukrainian land from the moscow scum. olezhe is receiving different information from these liberated territories, even such that the

houses of those people who cooperated with the russians, who fled from these territories together with russians, people without waiting, well, they know that it is very difficult to find the truth in our fair and honest and incorruptible ukrainian courts, then the trial twice, it can also become a reality in these territories, god forbid of course this is a state governed by the rule of law. what do you think? how should the ukrainian authorities behave in these territories? well, in particular, the civil or military administration. i think there should be a military commandant there at least for a period of half a year after the release. after the release , the authorities should partially pass to civilians, your opinion, sir. mountains, you have asked a very important question and very accurately. let's measure these territories for a minute. those people who were there during the occupation can be divided into two parts. the first part is divided into three parts. the first part is the collaborators.

after all, they are not much more warm together with the russian troops, but they need to be trained and this is a matter for law enforcement agencies. the second part is just people who got into a difficult situation and they survived there. the third part is people who cannot be officially named as collaborators. ordinary people, but those people who were waiting for the russian peace, who until now, even after liberation, have been washed by these russian-language narratives and russian standards, and this is a big problem, because what pain in most of them, but they will continue to wait for the arrival of this russian measure to them, and the son needs to be trained, and secondly, what is the problem that most of our people who were refugees

emigrated and will now return to their homes? and i this morning with talked like that, they definitely served what you said, we will most likely see these trials, they remember what someone said because they documented who wrote what and where, and when they return home, they will remember all those russians, not to collaborators, but to supporters of the measure that they they said, i will be here, and i will be there, and this is a big challenge for the state, firstly, for the local level, for the police, how to prevent that, and secondly, we must ultimately decide together with mykhailo and the motherland with a yes vote issues and problems of the russian world, so that we find the punishment so that we do not have promotion and public exiles in the treaty world. in this way, we will make the fuse. when our people will not

arrange others for themselves and will not punish it with their own hands and the state i am currently in business with a similar bill about decolonization. it seems to be called that, but let's finish it with volunteers. i am here for a year. there are pension halls. the corresponding bill about the ban and long-arm measure in ukraine, about equating them with nationalism and, accordingly, punishment in accordance with the measures of hitler's and of communist communist ideologies. i think that the first step on the way to the impossibility of lynch trials will be the completion of an ordinary ukrainian court in the case of nelya shtepa, which has been 8 years old in the whole case. i think that everything may be the first question in the court maybe not about the volunteers but about the head of the sbu, well, this is important , kharkiv ugu collaborators gives people who may have cooperated, the court still has to prove. today, dear gentlemen, the court arrested the suspect

of treason, the former head of the kharkiv sbu department, roman dudin, without the possibility of posting bail, because you have made changes to the criminal procedure code as i understand it . if i am not mistaken, you will correct me now about everything, dbr wrote in a telegram based on dbr materials the court chose a preventive measure in the form of an arrest for a dense employee of the sbu and who until may 22 headed one of the regional offices for two months without the alternative of bail. well, then the president fired him for negligent performance of official duties and zelenskyy said at that time that he did not work for the defense of the city in the first days of a full-scale war, but only thought about himself personally, friends, for a minute and a half or so there are many more such dudis who also need a certain check at the head of the entire regional administration of the front-line p. mykhailo, i am asking well, in fact, there are such

persons, it is very important that the president fired him in may after that and gave an order by the law enforcement body of the dbr, in fact, it was documented under two articles the only thing that can be used to prove his treason is the quality of the operatives' materials that were collected. and the fact that he left his place of service during martial law, it has already been proven that he left in the kharkiv parking lot region, that is a difficult period for this article , he will definitely be brought to criminal responsibility, he is not alone, it is a pity, but it is very good that the law enforcement officers of the counter-intelligence service of the security service of the russian federation in this period are precisely detecting, documenting and bringing to justice those persons, but the fsb, unfortunately , still has a large number of agents including the

inspection on the territory of our state, but on yours, yes. he is, by the way, your countryman, he is also from dnipropetrovsk, from dnipro, poroshenko, i don’t want to offend you. i’m sorry, i just opened it and he he has the rank of lieutenant colonel, it is interesting that he headed the regional administration in the village, the lieutenant colonel himself, please look at our sbu, there are a lot of such examples, i will recall the history of kherson region, it seems that the same obstacle was in kirovohrad region, but now in kharkiv region. well, we must admit that the service of security for all 30 years of our independence, it was permeated and infiltrated by the russian version, there were more of them than well, in general, it was possible to digest this and now it is knocking us out. i think that in the near future, until the end of the year, we will hear many more such examples when they will be misrepresented, they didn’t reveal it. and when they will be arrested and brought to court, it is a

pro-russian agency of the security service, but there are probably a lot of such agents, and other law enforcement agencies, the prosecutor’s office, and the cabinet of ministers seem to have such agents. a week ago, a meeting was held there in the corresponding operation, several russian agents were arrested, and there are such stories by the local self-government. we have a lot of work to do. those people will be squeezed out of our state bodies. thank you , gentlemen, for this discussion. by the way, it is bitter that we have such agents in the neighboring hall. let's see, please, they vote with you, even together, these elements, well. now it will be preserved very officially publicly, all the agents say that they are for ukraine, but they are working for i don't know what it is for. it is necessary to prove that the

majority of the security service employees are honest, courageous professional people who are still on the front lines of the police station today - and this is the truth, the truth in in april, security service workers came to me and said why i am against minsk 3 oleg dunda mykhailo tsimbalyuk people's deputies of ukraine thank you radio svoboda next blitzkrieg of the armed forces of ukraine in kharkiv oblast ukrainian troops went to the borders with russia in kharkiv oblast what's next energy blackmail russia or a rehearsal before winter