houses sorry for the tautology and how should they be in this case you are absolutely right that there are many security guards if you have a private house all i can advise is to check that your boiler is working and preferably put a generator to be completely calm almost under any conditions the problem with multi-apartment buildings is that if there is no power supply in the city, which in practice means that there is no electricity in the buildings, the sewage system does not work or there is no appropriate electricity at the pumps and no heat is supplied, then from such a city for minus the temperature, it is necessary to evacuate immediately, the question is where. if we take to megacities,

for example, kharkiv, oleksandr, it is the question of where people should think about, because if we are talking about millionaires, who are we talking about cities of the class of dnipro or kharkiv? one way or another, it is possible to switch from one source to another and the situation as a whole is more protected, but when we talk about small cities where there are no reserves, where is one, which is there, if the electricity is gone, if uh the gas main is interrupted by the bursting of a projectile by a rocket, then there may well be a situation when evacuation will be necessary in the winter, unfortunately, this is a fact svyatoslav , i have a question for you and against the background of what mr.

oleksandr said, it is quite cynical to suggest that residents of small towns stock up on blankets because a blanket will not save you in the winter for a long time weeks , that is, when there will be no electricity at all, how much can a person endure with a blanket, but not how much, it is literally a few days, and maybe she will stock up with burners for -25 but again, yes, you you won't last long. please tell me now , cities each decide in their own way where to spend money on generators. and where to spend money, let's say, to convert houses, although it is hardly realistic in such a short period for solid fuel boilers, well, houses are solid fuel boilers. you don't need to equip them before if if you have a preserved centralized heat supply system, then this happens at the site of such a heat supply organization or somewhere along the heat lines.

heating systems where local self- government bodies have the opportunity to somehow influence the situation. if there are individual heating systems in houses, especially local self-government bodies do not have any means of influencing the influence tools, you wanted an individual boiler, you have it, and now, be happy, i would say so forcefully a little to be honest, that's why , in a situation that consists of attacks and possible attacks on infrastructure, it is very important to work out the system of alerting residents in such a way that the residents understand and trust this system yes, that is, if we have a flight to some infrastructure there, a gas pipeline is broken, some heating line is very important to have an understanding of the time horizon in which it can be eliminated or it cannot be eliminated, so that adequate decisions can be made that is, i returned to the fact that it is oleksandr, that is, if we have uh, roughly speaking, uh, it’s november on the street and

we have about zero, well, it’s cold there, but you can somehow, well, shake yourself at home, get dressed, and if she won’t be there even for a week this warmth somehow you can survive there. but if it’s february with deep sub-zero temperatures here for a week, it’s already just starting to freeze, well, in the heating systems, it won’t be possible there for so long. well, let’s take the standard, it works, there’s no electricity, there’s no heat there in winter, how much in principle, he is already starting to work for what, well, in fact, he wears out faster, how much can he then be brought back to life, or is it not over ukraine? well, it seems to me that three days is actually in the period when you have to make a decision already. do you stay or do you i mean, somewhere i think this is the time

horizon where you have to make a decision somehow, mr. kharchenko confirms this, but let's divide it up, we have an outdated housing stock, uh, conditional khrushchev buildings , and it's obvious that if it's a few days, then for sure it can be. yes, we also have a new one the housing stock is more energy efficient because construction standards have improved in ukraine, there we can talk about the fact that people can live more or less peacefully for up to a week or even more well, let's look at it. the question is that if it has centralized heating and the main line froze because there was no heat source, then in this place you have to evict simply because we do not have it, so yes, they are. look, if the pipes are frozen, they are torn

by ice, they automatically have to be completely replaced . unfortunately, i have experience with such a situation in the so -called alchevsk. the alchevsk disaster, which occurred due to an accident at the boiler house, then just residents. heat supply oleksandr and if this experience of this war is now turned into a plus, let's say ivano-frankivsk, other towns, they switched to small boiler houses and they came for individual heating, and in fact now we understand what can happen to us after this war, we all have to start somehow, not to be alone , let's say there the boiler house heated a third of the city, it is worth using this experience and then it is worth changing in principle after we win this war , the heat supply system is not suitable and

autonomous heating systems are even more vulnerable in fact, because imagine it’s worth a quarter , all the boiler houses of this quarter still need gas, if the gas pipe is broken, it’s all finita la comedy, and it’s much faster than the central heating system, which can be restored quite quickly, one way or another, move the pipe and try to quickly deal with the consequences of such an attack, then in the case of individual heating, we cannot help you, you need to install a new boiler. and physically, this one will most likely take a month. it is clear. thank you, mr. alexander, because many people say that this would be the way out, you now argue that no, oleksandr kharchenko , director of the energy research center, with you, mr. oleksandr, we say goodbye, we move on, let's turn

to the regions again, how are they preparing for the heating season, analysts warn that the worst inflammation will be in the front-line and temporarily occupied territories, in particular this also applies to the mykolaiv oblast, we can find out in more detail right now from our correspondent nataliya yakobson, so what are the forecasts of utility companies in your region that all the heating networks of the city are planning to test two or three weeks later, the director of mykolaiv-bolteploenergo, mykola luginov, told us about this, in order to ensure that there was clean water in the pipes, as many as 25 wells were drilled in the city, and all of them are equipped with reverse osmosis purification systems. water and under our technology, so we don’t see any problems yet, that is, in principle, everything is going as it is, taking into account the problem that is disappearing, well, the behavior of military

actions during the last 5 years of mykolaiv oblteploenergo was actively engaged in replacing old pipes on novaya, and during this time it was possible to replace about 50 km of heating networks, among other things, the company is engaged in current works and also eliminates the consequences of shelling, in addition, mykolayevoblenerteploenergo provides citizens with drinking water and made sure that this water was available to the people of mykolaiv and in the winter it is not possible in the cold, we have them only they will be filled where there are simply pumping groups new eh wells will be how will the equipment be in winter and the water will not freeze wells, then everything will work . says that if the situation in mykolaiv in winter

will remain as it is at the moment, the city will be warm. however, he does not rule out enemy attacks on the heating network in this case. he says that he will have to to make very quick decisions in order to quickly eliminate all the consequences of the shelling actively preparing for winter and cold weather in odesa region . attention was paid to power grids, 900 power facilities were updated and 600 km of power transmission lines of various voltage levels were repaired, all in order to increase the stability of the power system and reduce its emergency but in odesa itself, the preparation of the heat network for the heating season is in the final stage, we are currently completing the second hydraulic test and all our systems are already prepared for each house, we are preparing transformers, we are preparing

elevator units, we are preparing internal houses in the network, all our hospitals are equipped with additional diesel generators we have created a separate team at our utility company, and somewhere there is a city light that monitors these generators in case there is no electricity in the heat supply unit of the city of odesa, they note this the heating season will be the most difficult than the previous ones, at least due to possible restrictions on natural gas supplies, the company therefore calls on odessa residents to take care of maintaining heat in their apartments, seal the windows, insulate the doors, clean the batteries of dust and dirt, and also pay on time for the consumption of heat for today, all utilities they work in a standard mode and provide communal services to the residents of our city, just like before the war. there is a request to the residents of our city that

svoe vremya paid communal services because this is an unannounced factor in the existence and quality of the work of our communal services. as of today in odesa , consumer debt for heat is over a billion hryvnias. this is a record figure, they state and add. payment of debts will help the city pass the heating season. moreover, currently, moratoriums on the increase in heat tariffs for the population are in effect, and tetyana boyko , coordinator of housing, communal and energy services, joins our conversation programs of the civic network of support and are also in touch with sviatoslav pavlyuk, executive director of the association of energy-efficient cities of ukraine , yes, gentlemen, you know, mr. kharchenko reminded us of an important episode - this is an accident at the housing and communal services facilities of velichevsky, it was the winter of 2006 and then approximately 60,000 residents of the city of eh were left without heating and tried to warm themselves with individual electric heaters if it will be on an even larger scale ms. boyko can

our eh wires actually withstand in the houses even i don't i'm talking about high-voltage, first of all, we have to understand that there is a war and prepare for several scenarios, if the scenario is standard, then i mean there will not be any strikes on critical infrastructure objects, unfortunately, i think what we saw yesterday is very expected unfortunately, i personally thought that this scenario would still be applied at the beginning of the war, and every family would need to prepare for such things. have several scenarios of what they should do if, even if we assume that a disaster does not happen, then everyone should buy electric heaters, etc. simultaneously

to turn it on is a very bad scenario, because probably 90% of apartment buildings are not designed for such a number of electric heaters, but it is obvious that every family should have such a heater, but turning it on, they heated things in the room and turned it off, and if it already included yes, well, follow up so that nothing else, well, the most important thing is to understand that our seas are far from being adapted to such volumes of load, mr. sviatoslav, i wanted to ask you again . did you once voice the opinion that now, especially when housing for internally displaced persons will be rebuilt for those who have been left without a home, there must be high energy requirements and comforted by the thought that because of the fact that it will be money

from the european union, they will make exactly these demands, what are the demands for now, let's move again and into the future should be for such housing when we talk about energy-efficient housing - this is housing that but again, it is a minus. energy-efficient housing is definitely not proven correctly, but list at least a small list of these modern requirements . well, i would name two here, the first is a high coefficient of e-e inefficiency or an energy efficiency index. that is, it is the total amount of energy that must be needed to cool or heat a square meter per year at the moment there are two standards that must be used in europe, this is the so-called passive house with a consumption of about 40 kw per square meter per year and the so-called active house will

this number is reduced to 15 to understand the scale, today most of our indicators of our other buildings are between 160 and 200, so somewhere, somewhere, somewhere in those almost 200 and 240 . we need to reduce this energy consumption per square meter many times, accordingly, these are completely different standards of windows, completely different standards of wall insulation, eh, but also, eh, there is also a completely different method of heat supply, well , gas columns cannot be about this, mainly this heat pumps are highly efficient centralized heating systems that work with students from local enterprises and, again, with heat pumps, taking heat from water supply plants from landfills and so on

and so on. mission energy system for this energy will need to be many times smaller and it will come from cleaner international sources now i would like to clarify mr. pavlyuk, the figures you cite are european standards and those we now we have it modern, or is it an average across the country, so to speak, modern indicators in the countries of the european union are now between 70 and 90% for the most part, again different countries, there is a country norway, there is a country italy yes that is, the need for heating heating is completely different there, that is, there is a court vitaly , in spain, there was more energy use for cooling, and in norway or sweden, there will be more energy use for forms, for heating, for heating, therefore . models of houses somewhere they need to be protected from

overheating somewhere it needs to be protected from hypothermia technologically it can be just as similar but again there is the use and recovery of energy e-e in the air or from the use of ground heat exchangers or the use of ground fop i would not like to engage in technological and all those things, but ecological ones are just here. you know here. i apologize here. the question is that we have been fighting in the queue, it seemed that they are modern, they meet the world norms that already exist, and here you say that we are lagging behind everything one thing, i want to understand. even on paper, the requirements that are now being introduced for the houses that will be built, they correspond to the european ones. are they still a little different, a little worse, if you can say so ? the union is also moving forward, that is, their changes, which

they plan, they are generally framed in a political concept of a new such a new logic , and it is called philosophy, and it is under political philosophy to which the work of energy and cities must be subordinated. that is, it foresees the climate neutrality of the european union in 2050 , and the european union has to pay for this climate neutrality because it understands the consequences of inaction. of course, number one is on the agenda, but as a matter of fact, when can we get involved and merge into this agenda ? if we look at the energy quantity of communities, then we absolutely see that the energy jumps are communities that have local production of heat from

local types of fuel of highly active plants, we also remember kamianets-podilskyi , chizhovku or myrhorod. that is, these are the cities that put high efficiency in the end vinnytsia zhytomyr, that is, there are already many such examples, this is not a state, and there are some such theoretical and theoretical explanations, we have heat networks, the losses of which reach about three percent in most there are more than 20 ukrainian cities, but we have cities in vinnytsia, zhytomyr, where they have to go. about three goals need to be translated and done qualitatively, that is, we have examples of how it can be done in our realities and it works, that is, you don’t need to go there every time to germany or switzerland to see how does it happen ? at the same time, there is absolutely a problem in that our heat tariffs, look today, are set administratively, they often do not cover the costs and there are constantly accumulating debts, mr. pavlyuk, let's talk about the tariffs now let's talk, we'll add information about how the state

is preparing, we'll remind you what prices consumers will pay, and then we'll discuss this topic that you started in more detail. so, accumulate at least 19 billion cubic meters of gas . according to forecasts, it will be approximately 14.5 billion with such reserves to really get through a mild winter, as today gas consumption has decreased significantly, according to serhii makogon, the head of the operator of the gts of ukraine utim factor the military threat increases the risks of a stable heating season, he noted, and naftogaz will sell gas to heat producers at a fixed price until the end of april next year, the corresponding provision is in effect, the government continued . uah 96 kopecks per cubic meter, this decision will allow the local authorities not

to increase the tariffs for heat and water for the population of ms. tetyana, and on the one hand, the state is trying to protect sensitive consumers, this is how they get by keeping this price, but on the other hand, mr. pavlyuk says that this will have to be compensated for, and it is obvious that it will have to be compensated from the budget, accordingly, everyone will pay because, well, budget funds are not state funds, they are all people's funds, in fact, from taxes. well, i hope well, i don't. i hope not. i think that the government here hopes that international partners will help us, but i honestly don't know. i don't know. i'm not sure what your expertise in this case is. the uncertainty lies in the fact that nothing comes from here well, it doesn’t come from anywhere, you always have to pay for everything and these funds have to be taken somewhere they

have to be taken there or to be paid by the consumers themselves and then it will be like in germany and in great britain when the tariffs increase there in 5-6 times, people are in shock and panic , but they are running. of the season, well, that is, it is a colossal amount, but it is probably meant that the payments are increasing, the payments are increasing, the payments are increasing and they are increasing very much, other options - it is really to find these funds in the budget, we are at war and we understand that, well, they were not there in the first place. now they simply do not exist and the only way is to hope that what is in the budget will be given by

international donors, but hmm, well, but i understand the doubts about this for these servants that these amounts will be enough, just mr. svyatoslav, you explain, we understand that you agree now with everything heard and at the same time sit down and answer the question, well , first of all, where to get money to cover the directly fixed price, and the second question. we remember the quality of the gas. it is clear that now we will all have to endure, but when we are promised that the minimum temperature should be 18 degrees there, gas will be supplied even where the housing is not destroyed, the gas heats up, well, this is the quality of the gas. that is, you are the fact . who will defend the final consumer here, or will they also talk to him? well, listen, be glad because there is a-- probably the most important part of our program - this is to combat the stereotypes that gas heats badly, gas cannot be diluted with air, gas

cannot be diluted with other gases, but where i am neutral otherwise it can be just banal explosion of turbos and no one has turned into a mind and will not do the legend that the gas is not as it was left i just stopped worrying about it at the level of national officers, why is it possible, i understood how long ago you heated tea or you can heat it now, it’s only about that, of course, in the boiler for calorific value, the pressure is because if we are at the same there are many more consumers of the pipe, this pressure drops, and it is the lower pressure that will be published in the naftogaz document on their main website, which showed that the pressure difference can vary

by 50 times. it is necessary to get it , it is significantly smaller as a result, although the meter counts for you according to the normal volume, there is nothing. actually , this is compensation for the difference in pressure, that is why mostly all these problems with gas about the fact that it burns and heats badly on the other hand, there was control, no one modernized the distribution network, they hung a mass of, for example, the same individual boilers in the house that were not parked, these things are there to park stoves and heat food, the boiler simply takes gas simply many times more, but mr. mr. svyatoslava but at the same time, there is still last year, ukraine was going to switch to payment not in e-e cubic meters, but in kilowatts for gas, so that is exactly what my colleague is talking about. thank you for your reply. energy efficient cities of ukraine

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