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therefore, this will be an emergency situation, as usual, we went through it in the ninth year, when i worked in the government for two weeks without completely without russian gas, it was january, but i wonder what putin's strategy is for this period . we see how he trains europe today and prepares it for the actual complete renewal of this transit, and i agree. what exactly is the controlled perception of quick decisions and what is one of the key issues, and today in ukraine there is an unbalanced management system because we have it regulated and today it is being sorted out and you can’t find the extreme who is in charge yes, but now we can’t put together p volodymyr and what can you offer everything and i am convinced that for the period of wartime it is necessary to take very strict emergency measures so that we can see who
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specifically is in charge and makes a decision you understand , because this situation with irresponsibility scares me personally, i agree, volodymyr. what effective management decisions can be made here, and in general, what scenarios are there under the condition of zero transit well, first of all gtsu there should already be a plan for this option, according to mr. makogon's message, such a plan already exists, although no one has seen it. well, i hope that i still hope that there really is this plan, secondly , it is necessary to somehow balance and get out of such a collision between e- by the supervisory board and the board of gtsu yes that is, it is an impossible situation when there is no complete understanding and there are such serious contradictions yes that is, something needs to be done here or change the supervisory board or change the leadership of the board of the company gtsu
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because it cannot continue such a confrontation if this continues, it is dangerous for the security of the country. well, then we need to see. is it possible for the gts to transfer money to naftogaz according to the old contracts that were signed during the anling process? in my opinion, the financial state of the office does not allow transferring tens of billions of hryvnias to the company. it is not clear to ukraine why, that is, one state company transfers money to other state companies for the fact that it uses state property, yes, that is, and this seriously undermines the stability of the state, and it is also the same one one one of risks, so it seems to me that it is necessary to review to see what shortage of funds exists today in the
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gas transportation system of ukraine and how to eliminate this shortage of funds friends well, it is very difficult, but for our viewers, we can finally mr. oleksiy to the people why prepare for some winter, what can be tangled not before the apocalypse a, but you need to understand that there may be interruptions, as for me , an absolutely basic scenario of limiting consumption is possible, and the main thing here is to make it as maximally but er minimally uncomfortable you understand, so that people understand in advance where and in what way these restrictions will be proved to them and, relatively speaking, so that the question is not to survive or not to survive, to freeze or not to freeze, but simply the question is what kind of temperature to prepare for in order to spend the winter quietly somehow, well, not so comfortably, but calmly as a last resort, local
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authorities and state authorities must have emergency heating points - this is an obvious repetition of the main risk - it is missile strikes, i repeat again , this is the main risk, of course, it is very interesting here that that yesterday the ukrainian leadership once again very persistently asked our partners, even well, i would say harshly asked for missiles with a powerful range. i think that for preventive strikes, i can get into my own business. well, i understand a little bit when you are being beaten in your cities , you probably have every right to react yes, let them be a little bit mature in their minds there it is difficult, of course, in our minds do you understand 1 2 yes she is a little over there yes yes
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mr. volodymyr what is the ukrainian military what are the modern armed they are in the kharkiv region in the kherson region they have seen it now do you understand them i understand what a panic there is and that is why we return and calmly prepare i am convinced that politics should be honest i will quickly explain what you meant , volodymyr, the state campaign, what ah, this is the operator of the gas transportation system, that nak naftogaz does not allow the state audi to itself, please explain to me, it is obvious that the old company of the state auditor should take into account they can prevent themselves from letting this be all the signs of an incorrect financial and operational and technological policy, that's exactly what mr. volodymyr, please summarize what ukrainians should prepare for a certain winter, what to do. well, first of all, i would say that everyone in each region will have their own fate, their own destiny because chernivtsi and
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uzhgorod lviv are one thing, bakhmut is there, it's another thing, so it means that there is something or other there, such front zones, that's why i think that in some people who have the opportunity, for example, to evacuate from the front-line zones where it is impossible to simply restore heat , heat supply, energy supply, it is necessary to evacuate if possible, and here the authorities should also say so and organize this process. it is necessary to prepare for this, that is, decentralization as much as possible in these
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conditions is very useful and the maximum possible maximum calculation, after all, the state can help, but if there is an opportunity, everyone should help and watch your options are a private house, please move to a private house, insulate yourself, that means with firewood, yes, i will fix it a little, because i asked about firewood, but four times the price on the road, you understand, on saturday, i will order a little more. and tell people frankly what to prepare for. volodymyr omelchenko , director of energy infrastructure programs , razumkova center, and oleksiy kucherenko, people's deputy of ukraine and ex-minister of housing and communal affairs, were with us. they talked and said that today there will be a meeting of the temporary commission, they will talk about naftogaz and try to find out there some audits, budgets and the rest, we will wait for
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information from them. come in the fourth well, now we are waiting for valery chaloga's communication extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of the head office of the ukrainian crisis media center, we will talk about the latest statements of the russian leadership and our requests to our western allies for the supply of longer -range weapons in order to continue those successes on on the fronts that the ukrainian armed forces have won in the last week, do we have him, of course, we you , valery good day, glory to ukraine, we will hear from you good day, mr. valery, glory to ukraine, valery , what did you read the last statement of the former president and prime minister of russia medvedev, he predicts the surrender of kyiv well, danilov, our secretary of the nsdc, advised him to find the bunker, he told him to return to the bunker, medvedev said that now
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everything is just beginning, should we even pay attention to such statements of the deputy secretary of the nsdc and who is he precisely with these statements whose position does he represent in the russian leadership, is there not a conflict of interests there now, is it possible to state that there is a conflict of interests in the russian ruling elite, i am actually asking a few questions. er, despite the fact that medvedev is formal even putin's deputy in the security council of the russian federation, then he is so from barsky's shoulder there, er, he made a new new position earlier, but the statements of the previous one medvedev shows that, to be honest, it is no longer worth paying attention to him, because his statements are purely such propagandistic information attacks, they are
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not the statements of a statesman. the role of that, unfortunately, from his statements, we cannot know the position now in relation to what it is, and this is a very complicated story, because they have a basic issue of misinformation, well, lies in essence, yes, misinformation of the opponent, this is the opponent, this is a lie, i will tell you the paradoxical thing is that in the conditions of war, the geneva conventions do not prohibit disinformation. that is, it is considered one of the tools of waging war , that is why they are waging war against us, and the roles of these are drawn up, who went in what plan, carries out disinformation, propaganda, that is why it is very difficult to distinguish where there is a lie and where there is truth, because sometimes the
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minister misinforms of foreign affairs, that is, a position according to the vienna convention. in general, it is considered as a person who can officially speak for the state, these are three people: the president, the prime minister, the minister of foreign affairs without some additional powers and this is a big problem for us, we do not know what it is for russia, for example , conducting a war, such goals there is a special operation, a military operation, what is it called ? respond to their actions, mr. valery well, we listened to the program of electronic information warfare of our colleague olga ley and olga skabeeva . finally the subway stopped in kharkov, well, she says she wants to believe that this is only the beginning
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, commenting on these attacks on civilian infrastructure that were inflicted by russia, as if in response to our counter-offensive, are we ready for such attacks and well, how can this terrorism actually be a bucket will there be any international reaction variable reactions maybe some new weapons will be provided to us in order to prevent such reactions maybe air defense systems maybe long-range rocket artillery those same attacks please well, the situation is actually it has changed, it has not changed for us, because the strikes on infrastructure objects were long ago, including the generation object, do you remember the first one near zhytomyr, there were targeted strikes, there was a period when they were targeted, that is, the difference is, but they are the same every time they said that it was after all on military facilities, well, something went wrong, and there were fires there, and this is the first time when there was a targeted attack by cruise
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missiles, just at the thermal power plant, well, what is categorically prohibited is the convention that regulates the genre issues during the conduct of the war and no one denied anything. that is, this is the first time they have actually admitted, admitted that they are hitting civilians and infrastructure, this is also what propagandists urged them to do in moscow . khokhlam and let's kill them already. that's why we don't hit their houses directly. that's what they understood. hmm, it's a very serious thing, no matter if it's in the kremlin or not, because these are already terrorist acts and it seriously changes the situation , we understand that answers to international structures on war crimes, as it was not, now, unfortunately,
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there is no, it will be jumping and that’s it. but it will be. then after the defeat of russia, and now there is no answer, they understood that they will lose to us at the front , and the public opinion in ukraine that we are already winners must well, to somehow support that , that’s the way it is, the situation means that it means it means that it is more important for putin what will be thought during the celebration in moscow than, in principle, what will be thought in buryat there in you after the coffins return to them in the villages, that’s the way situation i think that this is a signal is absolutely clear, and yes, we must expect that there may be more, what is it called ? such emotional ones are called emotional or desperate actions. therefore, we must also pay attention to our planning. this means that this means that we need
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an anti-missile defense system as soon as possible. the germans are us. there they promised these two plus two systems no, how come they don’t give us something, the americans were exactly the same this year, the next next year, although at first he said something that in september the first ones will come to us earlier, he said, i’ll just say yes if the argument was er escalation so that the future would not be like this, and here the system is escalation, you are protecting people, the system er iris is not provided, it is german, the death of hundreds of ukrainians will be on the conscience of those who are now slowing it down. that's all turkish media they write that erdogan has a meeting with putin too, it should take place on the days of september 15-16, uh, he should talk about possible negotiations with zelenskyi with ukraine, mmm. what do you think , can there be such a conversation, and what happens next, well, in absentia. this the conversation took place between you and me yesterday, the day before yesterday
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they saw such a good, good sent zelensky that without you, well, there is a song without hands and here it is more so diplomatic without you, that is, everything already for the nearest period, there are simply no opportunities to discuss anything there, already in absentia this was all expressed, well , that is, russia needs to be fixed for today, they understand that they will continue to lose what they have gained , it is necessary to fix it, and obviously, on the conditions that they want, the capitulation will not work and no one in ukraine who currently rules from the country will be able to do it, because the people will not give it, respectively the situation will continue until there are no serious drastic changes on the fronts. i mean progress towards the de-occupation of the territory of ukraine, and then there will be questions of negotiations,
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but one thing i want to tell you when you hear the statements of the official representatives of ukraine there from all of the russian representatives and us sounds like this, everything is the same , any war ends with negotiations yes, yes , yes, i will tell you, not every war ends with victories, there are wars, especially such as i think yes it ends russia was unprovoked, attacked us, entered our territory, what is our first goal to liberate our territories, yes, and then what kind of negotiations do we liberate our territory, we enter the borders of ukraine since 1991, and what kind of negotiations, why do you understand russia, not even a war announced officially bearing in mind that there might be their defeat, they bet their defeat in this special operation from the very beginning, knowing that well, i don't know who might be intelligent, someone might be
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an analyst, and i thought maybe defeat might be like this defeat. this operation will end. it will simply be announced in the kremlin. the special military operation has ended. this means that the donetsk luhansk groupings have been transferred to the moscow direction for possible opposition to ukraine. everything was won with you perfectly, we protected russia and everything and now they are ending the war, i don't think that we need to insist on negotiations all the time - these are inevitable negotiations - this is the only the method of negotiations, then no negotiations. and there will be international instruments, tribunals, reparations courts, this will be all, but it’s not negotiations, it’s a completely different style, e.p. valery, what is happening in putin’s circle, but still, they did not fully answer my previous question, do they have heads there? well , the hawks and those even more ultra-nationalist and
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anti-ukrainian forces are even more so than putin. if they come to power, then putin will look like a human rights defender. kovalev, is there no threat of ultra-nationalists coming to the kremlin? please, i didn't answer you knowingly. because when i was the secretary of the commission under the presidents of ukraine and russia, back in the 90s, when i knew and know in principle many people to this day, it's not that i haven't communicated since 2014, of course, but i i don't dare to give evaluations right now, but specifically people there are told that i'm such a simple genius that i know everything that happens in the kremlin, we don't know much about what's happening there, i can give my evaluation so external from what i see from what i see that there is a serious dispute going on now between a group of two groups of security forces there is no no no two you see the kremlin, there is more and buckwheat among the extremes such as dugin who, in
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principle, most likely had their own blown up there. that is , well, this group of so-called radical radicals , that is, who represent certain structures, er, military, well, you understand, war is beneficial to some groups, that is, they have advantages at this time, well, this is a war so as not to die, but when the generals are already dying on our territory, then the opinion about them changes a little, and of course everyone is already fighting for what will happen after putin, that is, for them, the government is the first there is a queue and all the st. petersburg clans are seriously connected with criminal structures. that is, you see, the new government in russia is the fsb. but are there a lot of other structures that want to win this competition, that is, in principle, let them be there, the days of success are falling out of the
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window, many are now something began to go out of the window, the menstruation of this is a struggle, they are cleaning up some tails. that is, this is all a statement, for example, what was and it is not a fake statement of municipal deputies. there is a list, these are real people of moscow , st. petersburg, a statement to the state duma in order to putin committed treason what what well they don't say there that it's bad that ukraine was attacked, they say that it's bad that in such conditions they didn't list the consequences of defeat with the demand to go to putin, this is a real appeal. imagine this, it's covered up by serious people, it's not just that it's already starting, putin's signals are starting and uh, i don't think that there are other forces in russia except the security forces now that can uh, come to power, i very much doubt because, especially during the war, propaganda uh, how uh, well
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, she had and internal function very seriously therefore in in principle, it now looks like there are some drastic changes in the group of people who will lead. well, there is a catch, yes, they are not changing, but simply the very fact of putin's departure from management is a serious matter, there is a window of opportunity for many things to be decided, well, imagine if someone comes for putin, having this window and with the americans and the request, there will be an agreement. well, of course, to free ukraine completely, to withdraw, to pay some reparations there, and so on, and this, well, i will tell you, is quite realistic, but simply that the sanctions are lifted is enough quickly but you, what are they, then they are already dreaming about it, they just don’t know eh they put putin themselves and this system was twisted by the informational work of the propaganda well, just how did you know how it can be done so painlessly and immediately so that people don’t see in russia they did everything, well, it will happen
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sooner or later, that’s why i think that putin will not be enough, so he will turn back and he will have to make a war and simply stay in power, this will not happen, but i will tell you that we should not think that there is putin, there are some better ones, there is no better one unfortunately, there is no such thing as an approximate headquarters, and that is why we cannot get anywhere. we must understand that whatever the power in russia was, we need to be ready to defend ourselves from them, that is, protection from russia. ukraine is asking its allies for new weapons. against the background of a successful offensive on the territory previously occupied by russia, ukraine made, well, we are talking about missile complexes, in particular, an artillery tactical missile system, or the attacks are said to have a range of about 290 miles, well, the biden administration, which sent
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weapons and other security aid to ukraine for more than 15 billion previously refused to provide such a system due to fears that ukraine may not strike on the territory of russia itself. how do you? well, you are probably familiar with this material, the following happened to the journal. how do you assess the prospect of providing such weapons to valery? recent successes of the ukrainian armed forces in kharkiv oblast, donetsk oblast and luhansk oblast, or is it possible that on the contrary it will allow our western partners to take the position that you already have enough weapons, your military successes, the latest processes testify to your comment your forecast i think that in short the successes give the possibility of new weapons, that is, the reason is the reason that there will be strikes on the territory of russia. yes , they may already be at our border . we have already reached the border of belgorod - it is close to our systems of salvo
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development, that is, we can use our system and ours there, what we have in order to do this. that's all, that is, this argument is completely removed, the arguments are not in this rockets there may be operational-tactical not only these systems, there may be others, but well, i will tell you this by ear, so we do not have any ban on the use of long-range missiles by ukraine in its own countries or in other countries, up to 500 km, up to 500, there are no bans, the americans they know very well from the word go that we, uh, why did we enter the export control regime? for us, what can we do? i am sure of this, because of the
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obligations that were under the budapest memorandum in 1991, when the law was about joining the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, you wrote there that if there are circumstances that pose a threat to ukraine, we can radically refuse it that is, we will not refuse the contract, but we will produce missiles or use them with a range from 500 to 100 kilometers to a thousand. i'm sorry, these are missiles with a shorter range or even an average range of up to 5.5, this will be our right. and what about up to 500 - that's it the obligation is external, we do not have to put forward any arguments. i 'm sorry, when we accepted this at the time and at least chose this niche for ourselves up to 500, so why do we have to listen now that it will lead to something, well , that is, there are no reasons. well, it is clear that the partners themselves make decisions to give or not to give. unfortunately, this program has been curtailed since the 19th year. well, it must
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be said honestly, it was curtailed. this is a mistake, a criminal mistake by someone, but now in the budget we need to allocate money for the missile program, we need to do our part quickly. because we always have partners will do with from the point of view of their interests they coincided with ours they did it did not coincide they did not do it as for these missiles now i think that under pressure in their own countries , well in the states - these are the elections on november 8, the congress is very insistent i think that they will still take this step and these missiles what exactly do we call them there, what are they unique and how unique are they, we had the same ones for 300 km. it’s just that we have been hacked now and now we don’t have it, we just need to replace what we already had. on on the border between armenia and azerbaijan, there are already the first casualties, armenia has already turned to adakb
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, pashinyan himself called putin for support , azerbaijan blames all provocations, the armenians say that it is his infidel karabakh, it is his law on the territory, how can this affect the development of ukrainian russian -ukrainian war, can it distract part of the russian forces from this conflict and what will happen next in the caucasus with nagorno-karabakh, will azerbaijan be able to regain its territory i do not want to comment on azerbaijan in armenia who is right and who is wrong, i will not take sides now, the fact is that we started this direct shelling of mutual territory, yes, an appeal to the dkb, according to the dkb statute, should immediately step in on the side of armenia, that is, russia should protect armenia, well, there are all the countries of belarus, kazakhstan, we will see what what kind of structure is it? how much is it on paper? what kind of propaganda trick is this? if now they go to war, everyone is on the side of
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armenia. well, then we will see . russians, uh, armenians just now, if the armenians hear, well, your country looks like a vassal vassal and they don't help you defend yourself, they don't help you, and you, russia, are sneaking up on the russians from all sides, well, drop this matter already, uh, do the right things and you will feel stronger and you will find a territorial solution for yourself. and it looks funny . i am not looking at this leadership. germany will not answer here. nothing is effective. what will this indicate? well, weakness from russia, we see that here they are mined at the fronts and this is used by everyone who has their own interests in other regions, this is not the end of the story, in terms of the weakening of russia, we will see at different points how it will simply be swept aside and not counted according to interests
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. and can they throw something there? u their idea is fixed. we need to break up ukraine and to destroy it, you understand. well, there are some common interests, er, russian, they are in conflict with the interests of the cups of er, these people and fascists who, in principle, do harm, well, let god do with them and russia too, but when everything is over and it is certainly more difficult to fight on all fronts than to beat ukraine valery chaliy, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the states from 15 to 19 years and the chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center, but you can transfer russia there and this first guards tank army which was supposed to protect moscow from nato, but she escaped from kharkiv oblast and left her equipment there. iryna koval is on the medal again in more detail about everything iryna, we congratulate you , thank you, colleagues, literally in a moment, except
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