and the person who represented ukraine at international tribunes, international organizations, do you now see any prerequisites for how and when russia and ukraine can sit down at the negotiating table, and what can be the subject of these negotiations. to be honest, i listened carefully to what he said mr. lavrov, and you know, i wanted to return for a moment to the issue of the american visa, and he is going to tell the mountain assembly from heaven and tell this delusion. and i can’t say anything to me. uh of course, i don't want to advise our american partner, they know how to do it all themselves, but there are such examples, for example, how the

americans give visas to delegations, for example, to cuba or iran, two are given, but the movement of diplomats of these countries, including the minister of foreign affairs or even presidents, is not good for the body it is limited to the house of the permanent representation of cuba and stamped by the un and one street or two there are three streets and one let's say so the route if deviated you violated the rules of staying in new york and in the united states of america, this is already a violation of the law , but i think that if the laurel visa is given to another member of the delegation, then it would be possible to restrict their movement like this, it will look very cynical but beautiful and it will be such a psychological blow, you know, even more than just giving a visa well, let ’s go back to these norms of the name of lavrovych

medvedev. well, i already said no one, eh. so, you are on the rostrum of the general assembly, eh, listen carefully , there will be no questions. so, i have a question. who is there to meet? it's the same with north korea, but north korea will also give it winters, well, so what, uh, i'm the moscow region, you can sit there and feel great, why go to new york for this, by the way, there was information about what russia, belarus and germany are not invited to the funeral of the queen of great britain elizabeth ii, iran will be represented only at the level of an ambassador, well, this is also a certain signal and a sign that the world does not want to see representatives of these countries, well, high representatives are meant, so we constantly say

about sanctions against russia, we are talking about how we limit the access of e-e russian capital to the ukrainian market, we see these sanctions lists with representatives of russian politics and russian business, but it is beyond our attention, or maybe i did not see it, but belarus and its current leadership are passing that is, this state and the self-proclaimed president lukashenko, and we have diplomatic relations with belarus, and we conduct foreign economic activities from this state, although this state acted as a bridgehead for the attack of the russian federation on ukraine, in what way can this be corrected, mr. volodymyr and hmm, is n't it too late? well, it's difficult for me to judge here, you know, regarding the breakdown of diplomatic relations with belarus - it's a painful issue. well, the point is that

... do you know belarus it is not only lukashenko, but you are right after the territory of this country actually became a plasma for aggression against ukraine. well, there are no more questions. well, there are no questions, but you know lukashenko , with his actions over the past 20 or more years, he has completely driven the country into a dead end and for it he will have to pay, of course, personally , but unfortunately for the belarusian people, because the sanctions that will be in belarus now are in effect, it is clear that they do not add anything positive , but at the same time, you know, well, we all respect the belarusian opposition, but something i don't see a lot of activity there lately, so, well , the country should be responsible and the citizens of

the country also for what is done by the leadership, just as the russians should be responsible for putin's actions, so it's not only putin, we know about that that there are 90 or 80, maybe even less, but a very high percentage of everyone supports, well, i don’t know any data from any similar polls about belarus. but i think that there is at least such neutrality, that is, people do not express their active position and those protests that actively began there after yes the so-called task of tishenko is somehow so well, they have quieted down, well, well, two years have passed since the moment when these protests took place, but people did not go anywhere, and i hope that some belarusians are still ready to come out and fight for their the future of this time, i don't want to provoke anyone to anything, you know it will be interference in the internal affairs of belarus, we have to respect this country, it

is our neighbor, we should live next to it, but nevertheless, hmm, i think that we must draw certain conclusions, at least for the future. i'm not talking about diplomatic relations. well, these ends are not somehow a panacea for all years, but what conclusions of a strategic far-east character we have to draw from this... well, you know what to do with the same ukrainian-belarusian control but we always believed that this was a peaceful border so that nothing military would ever happen there, and lukashenko repeatedly revealed that he would never set foot in that border that resembled a belarusian soldier, would never become a war border, and so on, but unfortunately, all this happened. maybe even the belarusian troops did not cross the border, but the missile

attacks and the russian planes in general well, ukraine, you know how the russians turned the crimea, well, such a floating aircraft carrier, that's exactly the same, they turned belarus into a huge military base of their own russian, er, i liked the speech of mr. danilov, our chairman of the national security council, who recently said in an interview that, well, belarus has long since had no state sovereignty as a country, as a state, unfortunately, this is true. and unfortunately, friends, we work directly on the air of the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social platforms on youtube and facebook. if you are watching us live on the air, please like our video and also subscribe to our social networks. we are everywhere, we also work in telegram, twitter,

on facebook and on instagram, mmm, besides, read our news on the espresso tv website, we work on the air with the diplomat and former permanent representative of ukraine to the un volodymyr melchenko, we talk about the situation that is developing around ukraine and in the world in general in connection with russian aggression against ukraine just a few days ago, when ukraine achieved significant success in the counteroffensive and in the kharkiv region, russia responded with strikes on the critical infrastructure on the kharkiv tes-5 e-e part of the kharkiv region, sumy, poltava, dnipropetrovsk, remained without light, but then they fixed it, thank god our energy engineers, but what is mr. zelenskyi saying? he is talking about the fact that russia is afraid that ukraine will help europe with its own electricity, and that is why these

missile strikes that were launched against power plants and other energy facilities are related precisely with this, we know that russia is blackmailing europe in the cold winter, gas, electricity, oil, well, in a word, it is doing it so that there is an energy crisis in europe, let's hear zelensky and his explanation or interpretation of what russia is doing by destroying critical infrastructure in yesterday and today, the russian army struck ukraine in a ukrainian-style energy infrastructure, hundreds of thousands of ukrainians were without electricity, houses, hospitals, schools, communal infrastructure, russian missiles hit precisely those objects that have nothing to do with the infrastructure of the armed forces of our country, on the one hand this is a sign of the desperation of those who

invented this war, this is how they react to the defeat of russian forces in the kharkiv region, they cannot do anything with our heroes on the battlefield and that's why russia directs its vile blows against civilian infrastructure, on the other hand, russia tries to prevent us from directing ukraine's capabilities so as to stabilize the situation in europe , our export of electricity is what russia is very afraid of now, because we can break russian plans to empty the pockets of europeans this winter at the expense of crazy energy prices, mr. volodymyr, it is obvious that putin's calculation is quite simple during this winter to show the europeans that the sanctions imposed against russia by the leaders member states of the european union, they were wrong and to force the leaders of their states

to change this decision, because we see that even before the beginning of the heating season, the large protest actions that were inspired by the russian federation in the czech republic, germany and other countries of the european union, the goal is quite simple with destabilize the situation inside the european union force citizens to protest against the leadership of the current governments and presidents of countries do you think that the european union and the leaders of individual countries will be able to resist states, these tests, probable protests, which will obviously increase, and where is the golden mean when you choose your political future? it is clear that the voters are forming the political future and some fundamental points regarding general security, regarding the

general development of the world. well, in the context of the russian-ukrainian war, i do not i have no doubt that europe will survive this winter and no putin's blackmail will affect the behavior of european countries. we know that first of all, the next package is already being considered. sanctions of the european union, which includes such an important issue as the establishment of maximum prices for energy, i.e. for gas, here for oil, not electricity , with the help of the state, of course, from state budgets, and this, i think, will be done secondly, as far as i understand, gas reserves in the european in the french western ukrainian countries, they

fall somewhere to 80% of the norm, that is, this is already enough. i am certainly not an energy expert, but what i heard suggests that this is enough to normally pay for this topic. well, there is much more of alternative and american chartered gas, there is middle eastern gas, there is norway, and so on and so on. i am sure that the european union is such a strong organization, he has already thought about it and predicted all this, and all this will be with sometimes so that nothing will come out of putin, because at one time the soviet union actually built all these oil pipelines there friendship, all kinds of lawns there investigators through the territory of ukraine to western europe just in order to have this uh-uh such an economic lever of influence and pressure with energy -e and to which time it worked, that is, the soviets sold these

raw materials and in exchange received everything he needed there, food, food, etc., some of them, the state of the cars, and so on, airplanes, eh, here is putin. he decided to repeat this model, and so, in principle, everything worked somewhere there since 2000, well, literally, until the last years, but finally, including, we reached the western europeans in the sense that nord stream-2 it was a mistake that the political er-e is purely a tool, not an energy one, that you can't live your whole life on cheap russian unfortunately, we are too went through it or went through it and became convinced that such a thing cannot and should not happen well, now it is already reaching the western european

capital, it is the third one that and they understand it perfectly so i think that there will never be a return to that so that i was small, everything was burning there, it was swaying and it was going to germany to france to italy to other countries, it will not be there anymore, i think that they have thought it all through and everything is foreseen and everything will be fine for us we should not be afraid of it well, you know economic price or the financial price that must be borne in order for it to be, unfortunately, it is, and i think that the main thing is that western european politicians and governments and heads of state have already understood this, well, the population has not yet fully understood that they are used to living in comfortable conditions and this is normal, but that war er, in which ukraine stands in russia and actually protects not only itself. and

who knows what further plans russia had. if it accepted us, one can only guess, so that those political marginal parties in western european countries that still live in this er i think that they will also eventually disappear, all the same, this is not the majority and no matter what russia does, it will not be able to change this situation, it was better not to start this war and it is normal to live a peaceful life but they made their choice in this year, unfortunately for us, you know, it is so tragic for us , and now they have to be punished and pay the price for this, well, by the way, russia's ambassador to the european union, volodymyr chizhov , will leave brussels in the near future. he worked in this position for 17 years. in his comment, chizhov believes that russian-european relations are emotional now

in a crisis, and in the future they will transform into more pragmatic ones . the meaning will still take eh above the current emotions, the meaning of the relationship will never return to the state that was before the current crisis development, it will be they are focused on a concrete result and to a greater degree than on loud slogans and mutual

wishes. vladimir, we see the interpretation of russian diplomats. although i don't know if it is possible to talk about the existence of russian diplomacy as such since 2014, because we quite often hear that it is not benzia what does lavrov say? what do the spokesmen of the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation say? is there still such an institution, such an institution in russia as diplomacy ? diplomacy should always be aimed at creating and building, and russian diplomacy in recent years has been aimed at only one goal: the destruction, starting to destroy the collective security system, which

worked more or less effectively in europe and in the world, and now not anymore it works as we said at the beginning of our story, and ending with the destruction of everything and everything in ukraine, uh, and the reluctance to listen to the arguments of your partners, uh, from the other side of the table, you can’t do diplomacy like that. it works on negotiations, on dialogue, not on ultimatums, eh -e a we hear and have heard only ultimatums of surrender , they are already there, i don’t even want to mention the demlectivization of the identification of ukraine, it’s in general some delusional, by the way, no one talks about this anymore, by the way , i advised mr. chyzhov instead that the otaki district from the word beautiful should have journalists read the comments his colleagues in brussels regarding the results of his work, here is a man, a

representative of russia, he has been there for more than 15 years, and his colleagues said that he completely destroyed everything that was created before keeping in mind the relations between the russian federation and the european union, it is clear that this is his personal problem, but let it all begin, and then he will tell in the federation council or wherever he will be elected about how he successfully destroyed these relations 15 years later. when we talk about e-e relations between the west and russia of course, we are talking about mr. volodymyr and about ordinary russian citizens who go abroad, information has just appeared that latvia, lithuania, estonia, poland , the czech republic, slovakia, data from belgium and the netherlands more they don't accept documents from russians for issuing tourist visas, well, at least that's how the message appeared, uh, we already talked about uh,

public opinion polls and the fact that the majority of russian citizens support putin's war against ukraine. about the fact that the so-called special military operation is supported in in all regions of the russian federation , according to your observations and according to your feelings , will the citizens of the russian federation feel this discomfort that they will now have when crossing the borders with the european union and whether they it's just normal that russia's reaction will be that uh, we haven't lived much and we won't start. well, we haven't gone to europe yet and we won't go. well, that's about the way it will be felt first of all in large metropolises, because if i'm not mistaken in russia, about somewhere 5- only 7% of russian citizens

regularly travel to european countries. now this percentage will decrease. it seems to me that it will greatly affect the interests of those whose children study in western european countries . talk about how we are at war with ukraine and defeat ukraine and the nazis and the bandera people. and your children are studying in london at the same time. and you fly there once a month for two weeks to milan or paris for shopping. well, you can go shopping. er, don't even take off, but go by car in a car , whether it's belgorod or honrog. well, there are also shops there, you can buy everything there if they think

that the sanctions don't work. that in the list of those countries that are completely significantly restrict the issuance of tourist visas not only to the baltic countries, poland, for example , but also to countries such as the netherlands, belgium, that is, those countries that, if they were not sympathetic to russia, at least treated them positively, even in these countries there is already an understanding of what a russian is well, this is not yet a monkey with a grenade, i can predict, but here is the last case when a ukrainian woman with a child was brutally beaten by two russian tourists because she was listening to ukrainian music on the phone. here are those faces of a russian tourist so what do i think i'll feel

, you know, you shouldn't downplay it, those who have never traveled abroad, they understood today, they won't feel it, and probably we'll still watch it there . i am there on the streets of moscow or taganrov. they will tell me that i have never been there in paris and i don't want to be here . it's good. well, russia is turning into such a huge north korea at a confident pace, and it will succeed in the whole matter. i'm in it absolutely sure, mr. volodymyr, at the end of our program, i wanted to ask you about how the weakness of putin, in particular, the defeat of the russian army in ukraine, will affect the entire soviet space. why am i asking this because hostilities broke out on the border of armenia and azerbaijan this night, but how come

russian propaganda channels report that putin intervened and agreed that everything would be fine there, he appealed to russia as a member of the dkb of armenia , the members of the dkb to intervene in this situation weakness putin, can this start irreversible processes, as a result of which, as in the times of the collapse of the soviet union, some uncontrolled actions will begin, which russia will no longer be able to influence? it got bogged down in ukraine and everyone can see the actions in our state, you know, putin destroyed it with his own hands . i would say lytin's role in russia, well, at least in the

space of the country, there is no talk of any russian leadership there anymore. first of all, the resources in there is no such thing in russia, there is no such thing as odcb - this is russia, well, there is a little bit of belarus there, and a little kazakhstan. from russia, we are carefully watching kazakhstan's position regarding the president's statements about sanctions that they never explain to the dpr of the lpr that sanctions are sacred and that they cannot be violated by other countries, that is, even such countries, and in by the way, kazakhstan's border with russia is even longer than ours, and armenia, which used to

rely on russia, is even longer than ours, and it is also necessary to think about it. well, if it is an ally, then at least as an intermediary, it can no longer do this in many other countries, hmm, in addition to this, in the countries let's say central asia, there the authority and influence of china is constantly growing, that is, russia with its own hands, well, the fact that it has quarreled without ukraine for many generations is already clear, it is already a fact . but i think that the same thing is happening with other countries, even with those countries where of course preferred the majority of the population still considered russia to be their natural ally or a country that was positive enough to be compared to, and what is there to

compare it to today? and already on february 24, it was already the last nail in my own hard time , and i think that you know that in our lifetime we will see all these results, thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation. it was volodymyr yelchenko, a diplomat and a former representative of ukraine in organizations of the united nations, also the former extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of the united states of america of the ukrainian state we talked with him about how the world reacts to the russian-ukrainian war , about what prospects it will have for russia, what consequences these military actions will have on the territory of the ukrainian state well, what awaits putin and his associates on the international arena, friends, if you are watching us online now, please like this video so that it can be

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