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greetings dear tv viewers, this is vasyl zimi's world view program on the espresso tv channel, watch it, like it, spread it, comment it, share it in social networks, today we will talk about an important topic, well actually we always talk about important topics, but today we chose the topic that follows from the latest events at the front, namely russian defeats during certain wars , what they taught what they did not teach russia, why, in principle, russia steps on the same rake in every century on separate territories against other rivals but in principle makes the same mistakes today is the 202nd day of the war i will remind the ukrainian people against the russian invaders i will add our guest serhiy gromenko to the conversation with us today i congratulate serhiy good day he is a

ukrainian historian publicist public figure candidate of historical sciences eh well, actually we and i eh, what would i like to start this topic, well , first of all, since you were still engaged in the active topic of crimea, we studied the topic of crimea last time what should we talk about with you? when oleksiy mustafin and i talked about crimea and the russian project of novorossiya, then you couldn't. well, now i would like to continue the topic of crimea a little, and then we will move on to russia's military defeats and why russia again i step on the same rake and does it mean that defeats on the battlefield will one way or another lead to upheavals within russia itself, which may end either in a revolution or in the end of history, a certain format of this state that is in the russian federation, after all, a little about crimea in your opinion, what has changed, what happened? what about ukraine and its western partners who previously said that crimea can only be returned through diplomatic means, that there is no military way to return crimea, that it is safe to hit it with missiles, that it should not be

touched, that it is generally some kind of untouchable history that well, you can't touch it, but we will everywhere . and crimea is something that is there, and we are here and he is there, and then suddenly everything changed after the cotton in novofedrovka, everyone understood that crimea can be taken as its own, and russia did not react to this in any particular way in addition to tantrums in your social networks, how do you explain this, please, i will probably defend myself by saying that viruses do not understand when there are topics about crimea and when they are not. i am simply saying that our people understood why i am talking about this now, so you and i actually see what the difference is between the situation of the crimea then and now imagine that you are going to dive off the rocks into the sea but you don't know if it 's deep or not and if you're unlucky you'll just crash on the rocks below and it will actually be your last jump, but if you go down

and well, i'm sorry, you grope that water with your hands and feet and you'll find out that it's actually deep there and you can dive and then you'll climb back up to the rock and jump and that's it maybe there will be the best best event in your life and the most correct decision and in fact, until the summer of this year, we didn't know how reacts to attempts to transfer hostilities to the territory of crimea because, unlike the self-proclaimed people's republic of china , even more so, the territory temporarily occupied since february, crimea is still formally, according to russian legislation, russian land and accordingly it should be defended by all possible means and measures, it seemed possible and not worth trying, not worth exposing yourself to danger, not worth pulling a tiger by the whiskers, and therefore actually there was

no ukrainian war plans spread to crimea, and what happened in novofedorivka sawed cotton in dzhankoya and nearby it was the same probing of the bottom with one's foot before jumping with it, the whole world found out that in fact there is nothing dangerous. its means that it could dispose of are already used on the territory of ukraine, there is nothing of the kind. there is none, there is no weapon of retribution and doomsday, there is no devil in russia except for a nuclear bomb in order to defend crimea, but an atomic bomb will not fall on crimea even in the worst case scenario the kremlin will not have enough, it will not have enough spirit, well, as

you see it. by the way, with the current situation, ukraine will be able to come to a military solution to the crimea issue, what will it depend on? i understand that it directly depends on our success in the south in the south of ukraine, by the way, the enemy is actively taking away its manatkas from the right bank of kherson , trying to somehow cross or reach there. i don’t know how, because in principle the equipment there can no longer pass through the bridges well, but i understand that in principle it is from the military point of view, the conclusion of how far we will advance in the south, because we need well, trivially, to the chongar strait and to that trench of action, at least somehow, then this issue can be solved, and again, politically, or can we say that the event is no longer that resigned and accepted this concept of ukraine, i saw that it works in principle, nothing so terrible happened and ukraine can be supported in this, and again here we are talking about crimea, crimea, which

has been under occupation for eight years, crimea, where even before the occupation there was a lot of pro-russian population now a bunch of specially brought people who worked in crimea there as special services, chekists, e.e., provocateurs, well, that is, there are a lot of people who are there and this territory will be needed, well, god willing, we will take it back to ukraine, but that’s another matter. what’s next to do this is a huge amount of work because, in principle, to make crimea ukrainian again. well, not globally ukrainian, but crimean-tatar, because it is, after all, our native land and motherland , the leader, please ask all the guests three questions at once. and i am as soon as you speak, i will be happy to listen to you, together with our viewers, we went to solve the problem of the crimea, if we are talking about a military solution, it lies in the plane of long-range

missiles . there is a large mass of troops there, uh, i’m not a military expert , i’ll quote uh, luzhny, and about 10 brigades are needed there, at least for such an operation, as it follows from their article, 10 brigades should be hidden so that uh, the russians don’t finish them off with their missiles and planes, which are located in the crimea. it is almost impossible , respectively. and from the history of the crimea, we know that the perekopichungar of the center are actually such cursed places .

places where long-range missiles can be placed, then ukraine will suffer huge losses, it is obvious that the ukrainian military command will not fully agree to this if long-range missiles, which i mean, at least 300 kilometers away, not 80, as it happens now, then it will be possible it is possible to introduce an organized counter-battery struggle to stop and suppress these russian airfields, then there will be an opportunity for a military solution to the question of who owns the crystals. maybe tomorrow."

arises with itself in a certain conglomerate of countries and political forces in each country, we know that on the one hand, let's say great britain , the polish-baltic allies, they understand extremely well that they will be next after ukraine, that's why they help us most actively and they definitely support and will support the whole idea of ​​destroying russian troops in crimea with missiles from afar already and now, well, certain political forces in other countries , germany, france, think in the same way, and it is connected with the traditional social attitudes of a part of the electorate. political parties in the parliaments, especially in italy,

this is an acute problem, uh, and about oil and gas. i don’t even mention that there are countries that are openly hostile to ukraine in the current conflict, for example hungary, at least the current hungarian regime. i will not sign for all hungarians but the fact remains the fact, that is, the united states, on which the availability of such weapons depends in the first place, is forced to somehow maintain a certain line , a certain well, i will not say what, but in principle they have to maneuver between all these concepts approaches of the united states and the united states itself , there are also certain forces that are not happy with the way events are developing in ukraine, not because they are very much in favor of russia there, well, there are many different ones , that is, different ones in this regard well, i do not know the reasons why this is happening but this is happening, and

part of the ultra-democrats and part of the ultra- republicans are in favor of the escalation of this conflict, that is, against the supply of the latest weapons, when and in what way will the pentagon be able to unblock a political solution, technically there is nothing here there is no difficulty, but p- but to fly well, i don’t know, it’s some insider from the white house, he’s definitely not there, that’s why it’s actually possible, even tomorrow , the question of the reintegration of crimea is relevant, what’s happening there now? hmm there will be a problem with returning there oh i especially after eight nine years these occupations are somehow

a jubilee another date of the resistance of crimeans russian occupations in 2014 about the past but i hope next year next year the ninth anniversary we will note it properly and maybe even to crimea itself, well, it will be visible and this problem does not have a direct and simple solution, unfortunately, it is not possible even if we expel all russians who came since the 14th year, according to ukrainian legislation, it is impossible to deprive e-e of passports of the urban population, who have always been and will be consistently pro-russia, will cease to be active. perhaps they will not go to pro-russian rallies. is it to build orders of the ukrainian authorities, but they

will definitely vote for anti-ukrainian forces in any upcoming elections, therefore, the problem must be solved in a complex way. ukraine's biggest difficulty is that ukraine still does not have a clear state concept for the reintegration of crimea. well , donetsk and luhansk itself are also because there are similar problems there without the ukrainian state somehow she finally said who will be convicted and who will be forgiven, well, we won't be able to do anything, we just have to dream that all the anti-ukrainian forces will just cross the bridge and flee to russia, which won't happen, it's not even worth hoping well, i'll say as for donbass, there is a separate story there, the infrastructure and industrial complex in crimea have been greatly destroyed , it is much easier, although a lot of russia has been destroyed there in nine years, and in principle, the ecological problem is very serious in crimea, i think you know it for

sure, it is not a big secret, but some kind of comprehensive approach, together with european countries and turkey, and of course the crimean tatars have to decide on this issue, but if you invest good money to reintegrate crimea, make a certain renovation and make it a real resort area on in the south and in the north, there may be an industrial zone , so i think everything is possible. well, i, like you, am convinced that those who definitely feel like a traitor or an enemy agent should definitely run away. well, this is not a comfortable problem. today's military defeats that did not teach russia after the kharkiv operation of the ukrainian army i remember the words of the late by the way of the former ambassador of russia to ukraine for a long time viktor chornomyrdin and the prime minister of the russian federation how many words did he say such and such words once upon a time

this did not happen and here it is again well, in principle, it also happened with russia locally in kharkiv oblast, it is happening globally in ukraine so far we see positive dynamics and i would like to talk about three wars in which russia may have unexpectedly lost and let's start with the crimean war of 1853-56 please tell me about that war, can we learn some lessons for ourselves today by evaluating and analyzing our enemy or should we evaluate and analyze him since we are now facing him, is it possible to learn certain lessons from that war and in your opinion russia did not learn such lessons in the crimean war, which it is teaching today in ukraine. well, let's start with the fact that it is somehow difficult to do an analysis for ukraine, relying on the crimean war , because then we did not have our subjectivity and ukrainians fought on both sides the front, and the majority of ukrainians, who should be expected, were precisely

on the side of the russian empire and in the land units , and especially in the fleet, since peasants from the seaside provinces were recruited for the fleet, it is obvious that the black sea fleet is two-thirds larger than there actually consisted of ukrainians, and this is still not counting the kuban cossacks, who were also ukrainians and what was also very noticeable in those times, who also fought for russia, or why, why, why, in fact, then russia lost, russia lost, first of all, because relied on an outdated concept of war under the influence of the victory over napoleon , it was believed that mass mobilization was believed to be a retreat to the territory of the rich and similar things. they would ensure victory in the conflict of any level, and if, relatively speaking, they

tried to move from the crimea to kyiv is quite maybe they would have been defeated, but the klyuzniks were completely the opposite, they didn’t want to, they didn’t want to, they understood that it was impossible in those conditions to defeat russia as a whole, they were just going to give her paws so that she couldn’t inflict defeats on her neighbor, first of all, because defeat by the way does not mean that the bosphorus and dardanelles passed to the russians and then the anglo-french positions in the mediterranean would be threatened and actually introduced the help of technical superiority turned out to be more adequate than concrete in fact, the technical superiority of the english

over the french was clear, even in russian satirical works, even in russian satirical works, at least the same liskov in the leftists, and russia, in fact, russia, well, i would not want to belittle the achievements of our enemies , she made the right conclusions, in fact, after the defeat, the record was canceled. a major e-e military reform and russia switched to a conscript army and this conscript army allowed the e russians hmm to complete successfully complete the conquest of central asia quite effectively wage a war against of turkey and in 1977 and 1978, when there was literally only one passage to constantinople, and

that is to say, it cannot be said that the russians simply do not know how, then such a situation arose, when england and france fought against russia directly into the current war, russia hoped for the current war it will not come to this, and as we can see, it has not come to this, if you read the truth of the russian telegram channels, it turns out that we have the british, these black-skinned americans, have already given in fact. this is so far, and nato has taken and inflicted inflicted a defeat on the russians. it seems to me that that lesson was learned. the problem is that it has passed. well, it will be 200 years soon. well, it will not be soon. it will be 200 years and the lessons of that war have actually

ceased to be relevant for russia, even more so for us. that is, we will leave now. we will talk about three actual wars, and then we will get to the point. and why is russia today not that it did not calculate its forces, but also probably made mistakes that could become fatal for it in the future, they are already becoming fatal on the battlefield and we bear losses and we, of course, our infrastructure is destroyed, civilians die, houses and the economy, but we still keep our land, and in fact the enemy is retreating from the territories that he initially occupied after this first unexpected blow, so we will talk about these lessons of the russians now. well, here it is important that after all , it was not a war of such a scale or so painful, it was obviously a defeat for the russians that, after all, the russian empire resisted not only that it resisted, it became stronger, er, it learned certain lessons, well, the truth is war it was started by nicholas i and finished by alexander ii, but

the fact is that it was still not the kind of war that would globally change anything in russia, well, exactly like how in the empire, on the contrary, on the contrary, even something went better, and what do you think, this war is just for europe was not considered as something that could cause significant damage to the formation of the russian empire. in other words, i understand that there was a certain local goal of the states that were at war with russia. well, russia itself is, in principle, visible in this war, because it was necessary to enter to the turks in the brazen as they say that maybe there would not have been a war and there would not have been such a goal to destroy and weaken russia as far as i understand such a goal needs to be thought out and in fact, well, i don’t know, it’s actually an invention probably from the twentieth century ago, it was about changing some kind of regime, when the allies defeated napoleon, they restored

the reign of the bourbons, but did not dismember france as a country, no, nothing threatened it , napoleonic conquests were taken away from it, but it was absolutely normal, so i don’t think that it occurred to anyone at all that the russian empire such and all the more so in the middle of the 19th century. it was technically impossible. in fact, i would not agree with the fact that russia did not undergo any transformations of the russian empire before the feudal unrestricted monarchy with slavery as the basis of the economy, on the other hand, after the crimean war, the russian empire is modern well, at least plus or minus a modernized empire in which slavery no longer exists and capitalism begins, the industrial revolution, again, it is important for ukraine that it begins in the donbas

, therefore certain changes are still due to this did the war take place eh did europe consider this war as seriously considered the fighting took place on six fronts and in the balkans in the crimea in the caucasus on the white sea eh not eh and not far from st. petersburg itself on the aland islands in the baltic and on the okhotsk the sea, in petropavlovsk, in kamchansk, not everywhere was successful for the english and french, but the fact remains that 0.75 of the world war was about uh-uh, it was a small, small situation, and the fact that it ended the way it ended is because the english are the most important thing what they wanted the complete destruction of the black sea fleet and the

impossibility of russian aggression against the balkan possessions of turkey, the rest of the world, asia - this was not essential. it was at that moment in the middle of the 19th century that we are now moving on to another battle, which was probably painful and not what it's painful that you know it like that, a slap in the face, a slap in the face, you're pulled up with grief, i mean this roman battle when the russian fleet, well, he sailed for a very long time in this family there, six months, or how long they got there, but he was broken by the japanese and let's talk about the reasons here again. i understand that the reason is probably similar to the crimean defeat in some way, but the lessons here and, again, how much more painful this defeat was in the family, and the signs are

possibly higher for the russian of the empire, maybe more humiliating, i don’t know, maybe more humiliating or well somehow, the more so the evolution of military technologies as such after all, in the japanese war , not a single japanese soldier was on russian territory, and in the crimean war in the city ago the russian public in the 19th century reacted no less violently , the problem is precisely that there is more evidence of it still before us than of sevastopol. therefore, one may get the impression that the whole

was somehow even more humiliating, although the consequences were similar both there and there russia completely lost its simply with everyone closer uh, the reasons for the defeat are absolutely similar uh, japan turned out to be technically stronger than russia, and i just relatively recently , maybe the snow proved that it was just the japanese war its balance of power is not afghanistan, not the finnish winter war, but rather the russo-japanese war, because russia at that time outnumbered japan by about three times as many people as it does now, and russia outnumbers ukraine by three times, as well. japan had a

technical advantage thanks to the help of western allies, first of all the british, on the other hand , in principle, the russians did not receive any help from their even imaginary alliance, both countries went into debt as a result of this war, japan spends even more than russia and, in fact, like ukraine today more foreign fact remains a fact that the whole world cheered for japan and its own that just as the japanese war , the defeat in it ended with a revolution in russia, so the current war will end at least with a palace coup, already some

russian telegram channels, well, from among those who are more intelligent than the average, you can already hear words about mukden about the land defeats of the russians against the japanese were not only in the fleet , it was all possible sooner or later the state would be shaken from the middle, the japanese did not take russian and russian cities, the japanese did not reach moscow or petersburg, and i don’t really believe that the ukrainians will now be able to reach moscow, well, at least on their own, without the help of the polish army or the american army there, as well as in the japanese war , and again, it was like then and now certain changes, well, at least i hope that they will absolutely come to russia now