it can be adopted at the risk of the lives of our citizens. but again, there is a pragmatic calculation here, and the president, the head of the office, the negotiating group are conducting negotiations regarding broad international security guarantees, and the prosecutor general is conducting negotiations and conducting cases regarding russia's responsibility for crimes. are related to ending the war, holding russia accountable and prejudging russia's desire to start new wars if, at any of these stages of the membership issue, it will serve as such interest, this decision should be adopted, we will believe that it will happen as soon as possible. we will defeat russia, we will return all our territories, we will return all our people who were deported and taken away. it is a pity that we cannot resurrect those who died, those who died because of this, but we are full of hope , full of hope that everything is for the best will be in the near

future thank you ms. olya for this conversation thank you glory to the armed forces of ukraine glory to ukraine thank you glory to the heroes unconquered cities of ukraine is the cossack town of okhtyrka, which is proud of its temples and miraculous icon of the mother of god, when the okhtyrka invaded muscovy, the city had to cover its borders in endless wars for a short time, there was hope for a peaceful life as part of the ukrainian state, the reds took revenge for the famine; on the border of good and evil, this time for the country

to which her soul actually belongs, okhtyrka unconquered, there are no more gatekeepers, there is one nation that protects its land, there are no more countries of the first, second, and in the third world there is a civilization that repels the aggressor, there are no more foreign cities and foreign children, there is a homeland and parents for everyone, there are no more soldiers and civilians, we are hardened in the flame , we are united for the sake of victory we believe in our struggle, we are true to our victory, we are not broken where even if you weren't, you can be with those who need it, buy medicine for lyudmila petrovna,

help svetlana, who ran away with one bag , find them on the portal and nearby they are waiting for your help, everyone in the office, we had injuries, we they operated under a flashlight with a phone, a brave woman , vladyslav, 14, a man starts shaking her herself, panic sets in. but all the same, she drove. heroes are not born with such a number, or dogs, five cats, a hamster, a spider, a chameleon, and some other fish , even at this intersection they fired at us, he began to lose consciousness very much hope that there is that he is alive from monday to friday 21:15 in the marathon the only news well what is going on the goal marathon the

only news it is together 203 day of full-scale war the first channel team is working for you of public broadcasting in the studio of yevheniya harkov. we will start this hour on the air with the topic of the budget. the government submitted to the verkhovna rada a project for 2023. almost half of all money will be directed to security and defense . - and we now have a large program of the grand strategy to reduce expenditures, primarily on officials, on the state apparatus, on state power, here there will actually be a reduction of more than 25%, of expenditures on e, all authorities e and accordingly, at the expense of this, we finance other

sectors that need to be financed during the war. well , what should the average pension and salary be next year? we asked the residents of poltava and zhytomyr about this. let's hear the average pension, well , the minimum is 20,000, and the average salary would like 30,000 . the minimum pension should be in 2015, and the salary of 330 at this level was decreasing, how will it be increased at any cost? it would not be much. i would like it to be 1015, if only at least. but i understand that it is probably difficult in the current situation the conditions between must also help the state, so he approaches this with understanding, when the war ends, then the average should be somewhere around 14-15 thousand, the minimum pension is somewhere around 10-12 in the conditions of the war as it is, 7:10, no more, because if

a novice young specialist is allowed, he should be somewhere, well , 1,000-12,13 yes. well, i don’t know. pensions should probably be a little more for pensioners. i think so. i think so. well, salaries should also be a little bit more. let me think it doesn't change that it should only be paid exactly not two 200 and salaries well, it's also relative, yes, minimum, minimum, yes, prices are rising, salaries, no, salaries to pay for utilities, get dressed , here you see quite different people's opinions, discuss pensions, salaries well, in general , i want next year's budget with the people's deputies, we have

invited two representatives. lesya is banned from the people's deputy committee in the servant of the people faction, but for now we are waiting. yes, when ms. lesya joins the broadcast, we will immediately add her to our conversation. nina a-a. please tell me whether you have already seen the draft budget and when the verkhovna rada plans to consider it. there is already such information, first of all i want to address all ukrainians because we have seen such footage of real life experienced by people in mariupol that i cannot calmly talk about the budget even further, for that there is a state that must fulfill all its functions and people who have survived the horrors that are still going through must understand how we take care of

what we do how we adopt budgets what we do what measures are we taking already today in order to secure them and prevent a repetition of what we have just seen that is why absolutely everyone is already talking about the budget it is obvious that the entire budget should be directed not to the armed forces of ukraine but to all the structures that, together with the armed forces of ukraine, protect our country, which give us the opportunity to start working to restore the economy. i wouldn't even talk about the numbers, because you know it's based on the macro-indicators that the ministry of economy and the ministry of finance predict for themselves, simply by following a well -trodden path. that is, there are whole formulas for calculating tax receipts, of course , they usually do this, and we always criticize the budget

because, as you know, there are thousands of amendments appearing regarding the expenditure part. i think that it is precisely this year that we should not be uh. well, you know the word populism. i don't like it, but now we all have it. be focused on the fact that in fact all revenues are calculated in the second way, after all, almost all of them, with the exception of 100 billion, are directed to the armed forces of ukraine for the defense of the country, this means that we are actually living today and thinking about how we can defend ourselves and defeat the next, of course, everyone people are interested in and what about them? and where are the salaries of state employees? and where are the pensions? will there be enough for social assistance? how will that part of the population live that can

not earn money for themselves? who cannot, let's say , leave ? to exist and here we must honestly say that in fact all payments remain at the same level this year nothing will be increased, it is a pity that mr. shmyhal just said that they will work on a significant reduction in the expenses of receiving state bodies by almost 25%, he said that he is preparing, but it should have been done yesterday because there are also people there, there are also families. they should know that they will be reduced and they already have yesterday's should have looked for work because we have to understand the protection of our country and the second value - these are our people if the working population i will give in, but you know the cuts. i don't see the possibility of finding a job in ukraine and i will all look for somewhere. so even if we win a terrible

war with such a number of victims, when we find out at the end, we will simply all feel sick from that number, we will still understand one huge the problem of the working population. i don't even want to name the numbers. i've already seen various calculations by analysts. what's happening now. the population in ukraine that will be able to boost the economy is from five to 10 million. listen, well, from such a country, if in there will be so few people left, it will be very difficult for us. ok, let's look for some way out. let's talk more about the budget. actually, our topic is about the budget. let's go. yes, you already. well , because the budget document itself has not been published yet. as ordinary people, we have n't seen it, or have people's deputies seen it? i saw it, and it's absolutely true. well, we've already seen the

numbers. now we've started working on the fact that, after all, we're trying to understand how much, for example, the expenditure part corresponds to the fact that we have will take place in 2022, we do not forget that all managers will be in charge starting from february, and they all lost the opportunity to make capital , pay for capital expenditures, make payments in full, even the salaries and maintenance of their ministries. therefore, it is now very important to understand how correct we are and whether indeed, as mr. shumygan says, we are cutting back and giving out so that only here the bodies can perform their

state function. of the state and that the funds that will be freed up after that still remain for the payment that we just talked about with you about the people. because if we take it according to the budget, then in order to provide another 50% of this reduced expenditure part, we only have to carry out everything necessary to attract grants, loans and various assistance. that is, next year we hope to finance even protected items of expenditure at the expense of assistance, and this imposes a great responsibility, so we must not lose a single month, we must take comprehensive measures for so that we understand that we can pay at least a certain percentage of all this with our own money. okay, let's talk about indexation, i

understand that no indexation is foreseen , or are any reductions foreseen, no indexation is foreseen, you correctly noticed that the average salary is foreseen 18 500 e-e minimum wage 6,700 living wage 25089 our pension still remains somewhere at the level of 3,000 hryvnias, inflation is directly indicated somewhere 30% unemployment 28%, that is, e-e numbers e-e can be talked about scary because we are at war and they are actually shocking, but we must understand that everything is in our hands, just like our men, women protect, boys and girls now with weapons in their hands protect the country , we have to behave in this way on the economic

front, and then we will be able to achieve greater of the results, but you said that the average a-a minimum salary is 6,700, and this is taking into account. as i understand it, the increase is from the first, from december 1, that is, it will take place this year, so far nothing has been changed, 6,700, which is foreseen for the 22nd year, they they move on to the 23rd and more, of course, no increase is planned, ah, look, as far as i remember, there was usually also indexation, if i'm not mistaken. twice a year . i know. we don't see the figures for the operating fund. still, given the high level of inflation, will indexation of the pension be provided for? while the pension fund needs to be dealt with, because you will understand,

please, the transport now from the state budget for the pension fund has been pledged, but it is obvious that it is somewhere around the same size as this year, therefore, taking into account your survey, what you asked people about the pension they would like to have well, of course, uah 3,000 is very little at this level of inflation in the 22nd year expected in the 23rd year , but in fact i think that if now it is correct to spend money on the development of our logistics capabilities on the development of our checkpoints, which is the only and almost the only source for the entire business of building relations with with the european market, we would be able to grow our economy faster and restore its size

, because to this day it is very difficult, precisely because of the logistical problem, it will grow so well. but look, as you know, here comes the question. we have already discussed these issues, that there will be no indexation. are there any reductions, you know , and taking into account the fact that the exchange rate has changed or not ? this means that we are actually reducing the pension minimum wage and so on. thank you for the question. actually, the budget for the 23rd year does not include both an increase and a decrease in the minimum wage. it will amount to uah 6,700 if we are talking about the subsistence minimum

, it will also remain at the level of uah 25,089, of course, against the background of inflation, which is predicted to be 30% - this is not, let's say, a sufficient level of social security for people, but if we look at, actually, more than a trillion hryvnias will be used precisely for security and defense, and in fact this is the war budget, so all these social guarantees are maintained at the level of the 22nd year, at least in order to get people, and despite such a high necessary level of spending on defense, people received stable pensions, wages, social benefits

, ah, look, you just discussed the future, so what can we come to, taking into account the inflation that you just mentioned. an example from my life today in 20 minutes, while i was walking from the metro to work in the center of kyiv, three people approached me and asked me to buy them food, how is the state preparing for this now, taking into account this inflation, what ways can we solve this problem to propose now, here is ms. nina, she talked about the opening of which, well, there is a corrido in europe, trade opportunities, and so on, what your party is now proposing that you are considering, well, in fact, in my way, we can generate

additional revenues for the budget, and in particular, if we if we are talking about the direct social sector, then we know that one of such important factors and always in short supply is the professional fund, and to cover the deficit of the pension fund in the budget of the 23rd year, uah 233 billion has been laid, then our party. do they currently have an official job in ukraine or many women who have gone abroad, they can do according to the application, the action will be special like this , well, if there was an application that would allow both for themselves and for whom do you wish, perhaps parents, relatives, to make

a contribution, social contributions, this is a way, on the one hand, to take care of your pension, on the other hand, we see in this a reduction of the deficit of the pension fund and additional revenues to the budget, well, this is the first if history. the ministry of economy is also developing a comprehensive approach to the possibilities of replenishing the revenue part of the budget in what way, er, because we mentioned now the situation when it is quite possible that a-a population that is able to work may end up with us for border and you mentioned it in particular now here's what you know, we are now, thank god, we are observing the dynamics when many people return from abroad and to date the program for the development of small and medium-sized businesses, lending various programs, these are the main

factors, factors for, on the one hand, to launch economy and, on the other hand, to give people the opportunity to continue to live and develop within their country, and mrs. nina, i give you the opportunity for 30 seconds to summarize your thoughts about the future of development, how are we? can we now have the authorities of different parties cooperate and achieve some kind of result? we will be able to do everything. the main thing is that we listen to each other, and i absolutely now heard if there were proposals that are more related to the budgetary sphere, how can we save or replenish or reduce the deficit and if we are talking about really building up our own resources, then this is the number one task and here we need

systematic work. they work on those days that do not involve specialists who can apply. thank you, we heard you. nina yuzhanina, people's deputy of the european solidarity faction of the flight from lesya to burana, people's deputy of the servant of the people faction, they were in touch with us, they discussed the state budget, but what exactly will the implementation depend on budget and about the assessment of the distribution of expenses, we will talk with the chairman of the board of the institute of economic research igor burakovskyi joins us . inflation is 30%. how optimistic or pessimistic is this forecast in your opinion? you know, it is very difficult to talk about optimism, optimism for one

simple reason, the situation is very, very uncertain . we also do not yet know what other losses we will unfortunately suffer, including in the economic plan, so if we are talking directly about inflation, inflation depends on the general state the ukrainian economy itself is very complicated today. that is, we have an economy in general that is difficult to compare with anything, considering all the losses that we directly suffered, so i think that it is better to prepare for some such er, more pessimistic scenarios, let's not say drive ourselves into some such you know, very, very big. i think that this is roughly consistent with the mood that exists today, but let's not forget that the economic situation can change , that's why i honestly didn't speak today, you know about our separate expectations, including

macroeconomic expectations, you know, in such a completely defined, defined, defined format, theoretically, such a situation can arise when, say, next year we will have a gross domestic product minus, and we can even exceed the target indicator of 4.6 to a certain extent % of what is included in the budget today. therefore, it is honestly very difficult to talk about such very stable parameters. this obviously indicates that the state should be proactive, deputies . should be proactive and should be very interfering in certain economic processes. and in your opinion, can we somehow reduce this budget deficit, we have a number, if i'm not mistaken , one and three seem like trillions, yes, our deficit is extremely high, all about 20 %. of the expected

gross domestic product, well, in fact, if we are talking about reducing the deficit, then it is about the simplest way - it is a reduction of public spending. well , then the question arises as to which expenses and to what extent we can reduce how to make this reduction then it did not create any major economic problems there, and on the other hand, we can talk about the attraction of foreign funds and as far as i understand, today we are talking about getting somewhere around 30-40 billion dollars of gold from the international monetary fund and the european union in the format macrochina is the second way to reduce this deficit. further, much will be determined by how we will receive this money. of course, we would like to receive more money from the temple, that is, money that we can spend. obligations well, but obviously part of it will come in the format of loans well, i wish that these

loans did not create any additional, you know, problems associated with them with service, that is, in principle, two options well, we borrow money and we e -we are cutting costs, some other option, let's say to sharply increase state revenues, i currently do not see what risks exist for us, taking into account the attraction of all international investments, what are the consequences of the imf, the eu and the usa, in particular, i immediately wanted to say that from my point of view the question should be asked in a different way, how to make sure that we use these funds as effectively as possible even in peacetime when there was no russian aggression or let's say it was localized and in those regions in the east of the country and the crimea as it was before the 20th from february 22, there are certain funds from international

organizations, but there is a rule that i could never use them completely, that is, this is the paradox. reference to the state, the question of what is called the institutional ability to use available funds. well, besides that, there is another point that we also need to pay attention to. we need to work more actively with our foreign partners . i'm wrong, we were promised about 28-29 billion dollars, of which we have already received approximately 15, that is, 13 . they promised and thus accumulated this money in accounts and transferred it as quickly as possible to the

needs of ukraine. the attack on kyiv will not succeed, believes the secretary of the national security council oleksiy danilov, however, there is a possibility , how are they preparing to defend the capital , our journalists will tell you, the capital is reliably protected near kyiv, constant military training all scenarios of a possible re- attack by the russians are being worked out, the company commander, following an alarm signal , raises the unit and defines combat tasks , the personnel reacts without hesitation, the company commander wants to be young but with combat experience, vitaly took part in hostilities in donetsk region, and from the beginning of the full-scale invasion, together with his unit, the unit defended kyiv fully prepared

for any task, the vast majority of people were in hot spots even before the start of a full-scale invasion also during full-scale, everyone took an active part in the defense of the kyiv direction, the unit is coordinated , training and improvement of personnel skills are constantly carried out, our morale and psychological state is always high, we understand that the capital cannot be surrendered under any circumstances, the course of training and training of servicemen arrived, the commander of the combined forces of the armed forces of ukraine, serhiy naev says that they are ready to react, and the personnel train day and night according to a plan that only the company commander knows, so that the personnel do not get used to one or the other the actions of the company commander are always taken measures that are impossible to repeat by the same people the following tactical situation is introduced