i have leaders in the czech republic. sweden is also a friend of ukraine. we can raise these issues. but again, we are extracting opportunities for ourselves after the start of face-to-face negotiations. i think that the government also understands this, and i would really like to have our political parties there with me. are creating just the given political one in ukraine. thank you very much, mr. gennady for this extremely high-quality analysis. samarkand himself this is for putin to tell sisinpinho and dmytro yefremov, we are engaging this precisely, an expert of the ukrainian association of chinese studies p dmytro, we congratulate you, the president of china, all dengpin took part in the summit of the shanghai cooperation organization in samarkand, uzbekistan, it was held and there he already met with the president of russia, vladimir putin, and before that on meetings with the

president of kazakhstan tokaev assured that china will support the independence and territorial integrity of kazakhstan eh what has changed what happened at these negotiations that you heard us as well this applies, you mean the dialogue, then all the women have information about what happened at the samarkand meeting. yes, we understand that all the calls did not even bother to eat collectively, so to speak, some baranets, i don't know, or to eat a cup of pilaf in the good company of their friends until recently, this means well, if the rejection of a joint dinner or sisinpin- i don’t know, i didn’t feel very well or it is some kind of serious demonstration of certain protocol moments regarding the absence of all the calls to meet, i still leaned towards

the official position stated by the chinese side that they did it for security reasons considering that they are very worried about the possibility of the spread of the pandemic from 19 their country, if you know the chinese preach the principle of zero tolerance to the virus. that is, very strict measures are introduced there to limit the quarantine, many cities were closed on lockdowns is a very acute problem for them. china fundamentally supports this policy of its own, and therefore, in order to prevent the spread through the delegation through its members, they are reducing the intensity of contacts is always here, you can see the chinese leader is wearing a mask and all the members of his delegation, so i think that this meeting was missed by the chinese, it is most likely because of this

, because, well, do not use such an opportunity to advertise yourself, state your position , exchange thoughts with other leaders, catch nice photo i think the chinese are unlikely to have lost such an opportunity no, but simply taking into account, so to speak, until recently, they would have helped, i don't know, to wrap myself in balls, wear three masks, meet and negotiate, this was not done and this is serious history because we understand that not only china and the russian federation are influencing the current situation in central asia, but also turkey, and here some kind of conflict has started. well, i expressed my point of view. i would not exaggerate this situation. let's go back to what you asked at the beginning regarding the russian-chinese negotiation meetings, what actually happened between uh in the

bilateral dialogue between the leaders. to see what was important for each of the participants of this meeting, the chinese side reports that the parties, that is, china and russia, discussed issues related to security, the promotion of peace, the development of the economy, the improvement of world welfare, and so on , that is, everything is fine, nothing it's bad, and this is the agenda that interests the chinese, that is, the chinese are forming their own message about leadership that they want to implement, they offer a platform , including the shanghai organization itself cooperation yes and through it they are trying to deliver their messages to the world and, first of all, to a developing country, that china is ready to be an international leader, or does it offer its e-e agent its agenda, and this agenda is aimed at supporting development in of all

the neighboring countries, dmitri, yes, he does not hesitate to help support russia, accordingly, he will continue to do so in the future. are expanding, yes, but with regard to russia, the russian leader and his servant then reported that they explained with inpino his vision of the situation in ukraine, that is, putin justified himself that his war , his special operation there did not go according to plan, that he does not control the situation and cannot influence it faster than everything is indirect. putin is about support in any form. i think it was divided into several directions, there is a humanitarian direction, a military, investment, financial direction, and so on. and judging by each of them, negotiations were conducted after all, china will not change its position, it will continue to support and will not support russia in any of

these directions, unless it is possible, except for some humanitarian concessions, what is happening with john in your opinion? yes, we understand that the exchange rate of the yuan against the dollar has weakened somewhat dollars is a separate big story, maybe invite me, we can talk about it at length because uain is a means of promoting chinese interests in the world, a means of intercepting the leadership of the united states but there are very, very many pitfalls that currently do not allow china to do this, that is, it is a very difficult and complex process that needs to be understood. if you give a short answer now, then china would really be interested in deleting the shost platform to increase trade with other countries, as well as calculations at the same time to take place precisely in the yen , china is forming an infrastructure for this, but the nuance is that it remains an unconverted currency, and therefore

there will always be risks of exchange rate loss for users of the yuan from these exchange rate fluctuations , so keep your reserves in yuan and calculations are very high risk, therefore, ani users will ask me to pay a large premium for the risk, these calculations will increase their value, therefore, at the moment china, the chinese yuan cannot be such a currency that will replace the dollar, mr. dmitry, you said that china will not support russia very much there, but despite that, they do not openly condemn russia's aggression against ukraine, the united nations, etc. to one in unison, it's like that, what can it be, it's an excuse,

they can use your word more. -for example, russia wanted the total annihilation of these institutions of international relations created by the united states , and china would like not to destroy them, but simply to push the united states out of it and take its place that is, the approaches are different, but they are friends against the united states. that is why their positions are very close. for example, chinese officials, when communicating with the russians, say that they understand the fears of russia and the warnings expressed by the russian leadership regarding ukraine and nato. in other words, this is such a diplomatic game they are more friendship to confront what is at

its limit, it will not develop further because the chinese are still more interested in maintaining relations with the americans and not with the europeans to get under sanctions, to expand their trade precisely because of this interaction, china continues to enrich itself and develop, therefore, to make a branch on which, on which are you sitting ? it is interesting that china's imports from russia are increasing, that is, they are buying more resources, buying them at a discount, making money from the russian federation now, and on the other hand, imports to russia from china are falling because the dollar there is a hundred its fluctuations, which is complicated by trade, domestic demand is falling, because the population is

trying to save more, save is expecting a worsening of the economic situation, so trade is being restructured. i don't know, the internal political agenda in china will change because of the upcoming elections. so we understand that to a large extent everything will be decided in the so-called beijing sidelines at the level of those or other clans of the politburo, but in any case, we understand that this fall, china will experience, in particular , xizenping will experience re-elections, which are the main trends right now, but well, this is still more of a ritual. moreover , he controls the power vertical very tightly, all the previous 10 years

alone among his policy directions was to strengthen his power, to change the structure and legislation and constitution of ukraine in accordance with his priorities, and now he can make his way to the post of chairman of the chinese people's party in the third the republic is unlikely to harm him now , moreover, all the other political clans of the grouping and so on that exist in kyiv, the zone of chinese power will be structured in relation to these elections as follows, according to the following logic, either i will support or i will not support all the calls there will be no other options, that is, there will be a second candidate, a third candidate, there will be no logic in such processes

. look at the russian federation, there is putin and there is everything else around him, all these towers, all these are grouped who play against each other, but their main task is to demonstrate their loyalty to the authoritarian leader, this is the logic behind their relationships and their influence. will they be closer to the leader and receive more authority? will they be distant from you? this is an extremely important moment. but there is also the issue of individual adventurism. yes, we understand that autocracies are different, but the more individual makhnovism in the makhnovism in the head, the worse it is for the neighbors, so to speak, and we see what putin and xizenping have been doing like this until now he did not act, in particular, it is about the threat to ivan, well, and accordingly, after zeroing, so to speak, in his presidential chair, what should we expect from these

dilpins? and maybe, on the contrary, he can take some kind of tougher position on foreign policy, on internal policy. i think there will be a strengthening of the ideological component of e- is in this policy why? because the chinese are running away with the fact that the growth model that they used earlier is gradually starting to fail, it is becoming less productive and less effective. if earlier by investing one dollar you got by making $1 investment you got $1, in the end so now to achieve a decomposable dollar of gdp you need to invest four dollars so this model is starting to lose its effectiveness we need to find new approaches new ways to justify why the power in china is controlled by the communist party and it sets the direction of development and one of the orders . well, the messages that are now making these calls relate to the equalization of well-being among citizens,

the reduction of inequality, a fairer distribution incomes and on these hoards, these lands, he will build his internal policy in foreign policy. he will again continue the course of increasing china's influential position on strengthening competition with the united states. and try to seize leadership first regionally and then possibly globally dmytro, finally, we would like to clarify with you whether there will be a change in china's position regarding the russian-ukrainian war, or whether it will, so to speak , well, the chinese have already seen six months of war, the russians are suffering colossal defeats, and they cannot achieve the set goals well, accordingly, it is possible that beijing will now be determined from the beginning. china declared its detachment from both participants, sometimes it can be said that it helped

the russian federation, but at the same time, it gave other messages that could be interpreted as an attempt to balance this rapprochement with the russian federation means that china is already in an optimal position for itself and the need for me to significantly adjust it in china will not appear even after the appearance of p. dmytro dmytro yefremov, experts of the ukrainian association of china studies spoke about the position of china itself, which is of course an interesting analysis of the situation. we thank mr. dmytro for the fact that he orients himself very well and avoids, so to speak, excessive optimism and, on the contrary, pessimism, but the dragon is the dragon, the expert of the center for civil svobod pyacheslav, we congratulate you. good afternoon. we

would like to talk to you about how the crimes of russians are being recorded in the liberated territories. we read that ukrainians were found killed under raisins. soldiers whose hands were tied dmytro lubinets reports that they were tortured and killed nearby, he wrote i saw a place where soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine are buried well, on the crosses it is written who is there, the armed forces of ukraine are not all, even a number experts and officials say that what the russians created in izyum surpasses in its genocidal nature what they created in buchi . only those reports are mostly from

government officials and some separate reports from military volunteers who find burials and other traces of russian crimes, so there is no full picture, but from what we know, starting from the first bombings of raisin and hostilities, etc. the events that took place during the occupation, it can definitely be said that systematic and large-scale violations of international humanitarian law took place, e.e. war crimes, crimes against humanity, both against the local civilian population and against the military, as it were noted, but there are no complete data at the moment and it is difficult to say anything about quantitative indicators, it is clear that we are talking about systematic and large-scale crimes. well, the head of the investigative

department of the police of the kharkiv region, serhiy bolvinov, reported that in the liberated izyum of the kharkiv region, a mass burial of more than 440 bodies, we understand that now, in the current situation, representatives of various international institutions should be involved as soon as possible so that they, together with our investigators, record the atrocities of the russian interveners. in your opinion, how quickly can international experts arrive and, in general, in what way should the protocol be drawn up and the crimes recorded so that the world not only knows, but the world is convinced of absolute transparency, so that no one asks additional questions? -e, unfortunately, with a certain amount of confidence, it is possible to assert that this is not the only and not the last, but a mass burial that will be

found . the matter of when the burials of people after e-e-tortures and who were secretly killed during the russian occupation will begin to be opened, as for foreign observers of investigators well, they are already working on the territory of ukraine, it is about investigators who work within the boundaries of the city of the international criminal court, as well as representatives of other states which on a bilateral and unilateral basis provide assistance in the investigation of war crimes in ukraine first of all unconditionally this is the work of such investigative bodies, but currently the level of cooperation of ukraine with the international criminal court and it allows us to assert that there are no doubts about the quality of the

documentation and recording of all crimes by the international community, there is no trust in ukraine, it all goes to the international criminal court, at least, another matter what official ukraine aims to be dissatisfied with only the boundaries of the international criminal court -a a-a to create a separate special tribunal regarding the crime that is being created here by the russians and vladimir putin personally on the territory of ukraine as a result of aggression. and this is due to several reasons and first of all for all that the international criminal here will not investigate the actual aggression as a crime according to its own statute, mr. vyacheslav, we would like to ask you about the difficulties of identifying the remains of

the dead. well, as always with mass burials , the identification of the victims is complicated by the fact that a lot of time has passed e- it has been six months since the first burials took place, and it was a warm time of the year, and there were not many witnesses to the events that actually happened, that is, it is about identification by dna, for example, why do you need a huge data bank, that is, it will happen slowly, we know this from the population centers of the kyiv region, which was liberated back in march , and not all the remains of people have been identified, and on the other hand, many people are still officially considered missing and missing. that is, it

will definitely be it is a long process and definitely what ukraine aims to do is to intensify everyone, to return everyone's name. and this is clear. we already have a lot of experience. unfortunately , we can hope that this work will be done. it is not necessary here. expect very quick results and this work, which must be approached very carefully, mr. vyacheslav, right now, the exhumation is in progress. this is absolutely all the graves and burials that have been found that are subject to exhumation, yes, then identification. and if the identity is not confirmed, what about these cases but uh, they remain in the organs, uh, biological material is collected from them, which in the future will make it

possible to identify the dna of relatives there, for example, who will contact about the breasts who have disappeared. that is, well, it is so long research work, you said we already have experience, you mean kyiv, which is not so freed, but first of all, there is already a report that in terms of quantity, what in kharkiv oblast is now only, well, this is only the beginning of the operation, so according to the identification of the exhumation, it can exceed even the buchanan tragedy. how do you to what extent do you think these numbers can exceed what was seen in the kyiv region? well, as i said, i am now inclined to hold back from uh, to hold back from any kind of quantitative estimates because there is not yet a complete picture, and we have not personally been there yet. it is clear that the scale of the destruction in the city is

huge, and the scale of civilian casualties is, of course, greater than what is in buchach, irpen, or even in borodyanka , firstly because izyum is a relatively large place, and secondly, - and the hostilities were uh-uh took place during most of that time uh-huh, and so it can be expected that this is more like mariupol on a reduced scale than something that can be compared to a burbling warthog, but these are currently not very responsible uh thoughts, it can only be confidently asserted after a few weeks very hard work, mr. vyacheslav, why do you think the enemy did not use the already familiar practice of extermination, including mobile crematoria? why did

they, so to speak, throw the bodies of the tortured into the graves instead of burning them? they thought that their occupation regime would last for a long time or forever. first of all, we still don't know the details, and we still don't know where exactly the bodies of the dead were hidden as a result of torture, but most likely this is the mass burial that is being talked about in the news right now, it concerns the most, after all people who those killed during the storming of the city and the active phase of hostilities, when the russians stormed izyum, yes, yes, definitely because they were running very fast now, and there were no militants in the city, because there were no direct strikes on military targets, but it can be said with more or less certainty that a- and the casualties among the civilian population were

minimal or not at all. well, the russians hoped that they would hold out in the city and its surroundings, who came at night, they did not see the need to hide the consequences of their own crimes, and they ran away unexpectedly for themselves, the offensive of the ukrainian military caught them. well, he was naked. they didn't even have time to clean up and collect their own military equipment, of course, they didn't want to hide the traces of their crimes, so really that what can we find in izyum and other liberated settlements of the kharkiv region, we may not be afraid even after the experience of kyiv oblast, chernihiv oblast and sumy oblast, you mentioned mariupol so we understand that tens of thousands of civilians died there

residents, but then information was received that the enemy began to thoroughly destroy all evidence, burn bodies , and so on. and so on, what should we expect from mariupol according to your possibly unofficial information? the attention was focused on mariupol of the world community and mariupol from mariupol they are trying to make such a showcase of the russian occupation, that is why there is talk of burials there, analysis of rubble and other things that are actually normal more or less er works that we did not observe in izyum or in other cities of kharkiv region and that were not chosen as such an exemplary demonstrative case

. even about um, how many tens of thousands of people died during the siege of mariupol, it is about 10,000, 20,000 or something like eh hmm in some reports it was about 80,000 dead people, well, more or less eh, based on the number, it can be considered 22,000 e- e which the local government calculated of course, she also does not have complete information about the place. i think you can be guided by this number, but unfortunately, even if the release in mariupol will take place in the near future. and i

want to hope for this, but now there is no certainty that it will really happen quickly, unlike the northern e released territories in mariupol, it will be much more difficult to establish the truth and the exact number of dead and to identify everyone who was killed by the russian aggressor, and i am afraid that we do not know the exact number of dead in mariupol we will never know. thank you, mr. vyacheslav, for this difficult work of yours. and of course, for this honest conversation on the espresso tv channel. there are only a few cats in the city of balaklia, which was released first, well

, the informational and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel is now moving to its purely informative part, what is in the program of anya anzhelika sezonenko i'm ready to join her, let's pass the word to angelica, what's in the news, colleague, thank you very much for the fact that the russians are not calming down, the russian troops hit kryvyi rih again on critical water infrastructure, i'll tell you in more detail about the consequences. well , they also tried to send rockets along the dnieper and umanshchyna, but fortunately our anti-aircraft defense worked three