you know, when even the parliament voted for the return of wages last december, i did not support this decision from the point of view only that i understand that this tension in society, society will be very dissatisfied, it unbalances the unity that we have, the support of the people of the army, so i am convinced that these things have to be such that they will cause aggression well, they must be adequate, that is, if a person has 3.5, it does not fall, it is registered, but for some reason it does not fall into the agenda of the session. well, we understand why. because the agenda is being formed after all, it is the majority and they are not really ready to support these bills today, and this is a fact, a colossal story from the other side, also in olevsk with ukrainian experts, yesterday they discussed an extremely interesting story, it is about our new budget, so the project is already being drawn, as it were, and we understand that it will go on the roads something, a significant part of the funds, you are the representative of the

transport committee on transport infrastructure issues and the remoteness that we have, according to the roads. as far as we have urgent history the financing of roads, taking into account the fact that a cruel and unprecedented war is going on, the question is simply about the priorities in the distribution of resources, and this is the first reading of the bill on the increase of the excise tax and the road fund. i did not support it. although i am a member of this committee, i will explain why i, for example i support when we need to introduce an electronic system for the passage of trucks across the border, is it necessary? for us, it's a wild thing because for 50 km, there are queues with trucks at the border for 30 km, you enter poland. for example, too checkpoint krakowiec, i deliberately went. it's not far from us. i'm standing, i'm specially behind uh, i

looked and measured the route for 21 and a half kilometers of live lines of trucks, you understand that's a lot. i uh, crossed the polish border literally for a few hours. everything is very simple, there is an electronic system, they are waiting at a specially designated site, they receive a message when exactly at what time they should come in because they are waiting, their turn has come. they arrived, registered everything electronically, that is, i i know that today we raised this issue, today the representative of the ministry and the committee went to the place, they must now offer us an option for how the war should have an electronic system. believe me, we now have a lot of opportunities to make it electronic, it is not so difficult, that is, if on it takes a long way and it will lead to steps, we are doing it, and it seems to be not very difficult, but we still can’t do it when it’s only the underdogs who regularly search for

the paradox of coincidence, as they say, as they say, that we have customs is an exa- this place is enchanted by something. everyone who does not go to the customs office, everyone who did not want to somehow restore order there, no one succeeded. and why? because this is such a territory where there are a lot of illegal obligations and in fact it is very difficult to fulfill all the legal requirements, then it starts like this, you know, all together, because you did not have these queues, i propose that there should be a very simple, clear system, this is the first thing, is it necessary for this from the budget? we are for it to vote as members of the committee are so ready if you tell us and let's give money for new wagons uh, is it necessary in the budget, it is necessary because new wagons are future funds and these funds will specifically go to ukraine because if we do not have access to of the sea, we have to think about what we should do with the railways or do we support such things, yes, if we are talking about roads, today roads are also

the topic of such informal buying of votes from deputy groups. that is, we understand what a deputy is. there we are from elementary school, others who representatives of the districts and they say, what are we here to vote for, for example, the law on media or others? well, we don't really. maybe we want to do it , they say, well, how will you have a road, you will have a road, that's what they think to themselves oh, there will be roads, for example servants who have learned a lot to repair, i will tell you and manage these roads, how to repair them, also want to continue what was before the war, the so-called 10 floating percent of some who flew over this project, so it is not for nothing that the people say that it is not construction theft is why or these when you ask an ordinary person what do you think should be done now, they will tell you that it is necessary to build ammunition factories there to produce rockets, we need uniforms, the boys need to

sew thermal underwear in ukraine and not spend our money abroad and not buy it there, by the way, we need to do and it should be in the budget, because we are asking what is needed from the co-founder of the air reconnaissance organization , in particular, for e-e, for aerial reconnaissance, which drones are possible? we need them, not roads. yaroslav gonchar is already with us. good health, congratulations, what do you have to say about what we have now in service in our air reconnaissance and what is missing, what could we possibly provoke here inside the country, yaroslav smiled. yes, in fact, it can all be transferred and made into a joke. well, i am not a specialist in defense planning and the answers

to the question of what exactly needs to be built are definitely not up to me. i could tell you and your audience what exactly is needed in order to be effective it apply if you have any questions about this until here, my comment is that the drone is a capability , it is not just a piece of plastic with a camera, sometimes from the manufacturer in a different format, how much of a rocket is it to be able to use it and they are different and there is a need therefore, the questioning is different, like we need this one or this one, to put it mildly, it is incorrect, we need relatives, and they can

be applied in different ways, if it is very concise and in general, it means how the situation looks now, we have a completely satisfied need drones class, these are household or sometimes dual- purpose drones that are used directly by the police with a short radius of action, and i will not be mistaken if 100%, this need is covered by the efforts of the civil, not the state , armored edition of budget funds this type of drone has never been used, yes, there are large funds that help the security and defense forces , but this is on itself and the next one

is dangerous. a domestic manufacturer in the next class, it has already been rewritten, we have famous shoots that, most of all , were presented in the state security order in the past periods, first of all, we are talking about such legends as the stork, 100 fury, traffic police, etc. this is a ukrainian production for which we are ashamed and these drones have their place on the battlefield and they are actively used. there is a class that you asked about. yes

, it is actually demonstrated, but also in ukrainian the production of a drone of such a treasure we do not have when there is a message that there is a state agreement ukraine will do this together with turkey, but at the moment this is not happening then for obvious reasons yaroslav's cyber actors that have already been handed over to us were bought by the public volunteer by organizations, how effectively are they used by us now uh, again, look at what uh, how to measure uh, this effectiveness, uh, how uh, my view is that uh, there is room for improvement, what i mean is drones of a similar class that capable signs in the air there

dozens of hours and perform to have over any load e acquires information shock component they at the same time e-e be needed e-e a large number of e-e users and polybutih e-e well the first headquarters starts at the battalion level ot when an unmanned aerial vehicle can haggle over tens of battalions by the dozen, depending on the user, which should stop with the information that this drone acquires. this is obviously necessary, but we have organizational obstacles for the implementation of such automated dissemination of information between e-e interested users often leads to the fact that the potential of this

technique is used only and could be more, it affects situational awareness, which is actually the basis for making military decisions in a situation when we have such an opportunity technically but organizationally limits itself in this . of course, there is room to improve the existing procedures. and you said about yaroslavy some time ago that there was a long struggle for data from that the satellite that was bought at one time by the prytula fund was such a resonant story that it was said that there was an ongoing struggle for access to the information that he would supply that now you are me obviously with someone i am

like that never no well that is so to speak yes yes yes of course i have information about the use of satellite data, well, make a satellite drone er information system is er a source of information some sensors obtain this information and er of course this information must be processed and distributed among interested users er, your question is about whether there is er field for improvement as satellite data - these are the same planes that we just talked about mr. yaroslavovych as far as i understand, the main system of theirs is not perfect, but at the present moment. well,

of course, without revealing what is a state secret of ours. well, the system of the naked eye that the enemy sees is, well . hot, we are interested in this in no way affects what the russians see, this is a positioning system, if we are talking about whether our enemy has the ability to receive information from unmanned satellites , yes, there is, and the enemy has enough of these capabilities, if we compare the potential there, what is available, what what is used by the security and defense forces of ukraine compared to what is used by the enemy, we are not very inferior, especially

recently, now it is already starting to look like a greater danger, taking into account the last the supply and use by russia of iranian-made drones, yes, satellite data , there is a certain market, where there are many different issues and commercial satellite images can be bought by anyone, we understand that the russians are also actively using er, this market is of course subject to the conditions of restrictions that exist on er satellites that have a dual-purpose load, well, this is our advantage, our allies share it with us, our allies do not provide it to the russians, but there are a large number of other commercial er that fly to the planet and there is no problems if you have money you can buy here

a vivid example because for example there is a well- known ukrainian philanthropist who helps the security forces of ukraine with his money to provide us , including yaroslav thank you yaroslav gonchar co-founder of the public organization air reconnaissance about eyes and about air reconnaissance we return to the studio oksana savchuk, people's deputy mrs. oksana, you said that you were analyzing the budgets of the communities when you saw the draft budgets for the next year of the whole country . in the regions, how will they survive, or are the guarantors that used to be preserved there? we are now entering autumn and winter. and this means that the question of who will pay and in what way the costs of gas purchase will be compensated is also a very interesting moment. do you have the information so that there is no

as it was last year. yes, in the fall, we remember that we attacked the local communities, the local communities simply got their eyes on their foreheads because, well, everything is fine on paper. in the frankiv meeting of the association of cities, where all mayors of the ivano-frankivsk region were invited, people's deputies from prykarpattia were present. and actually my speech was about what i would like, i say . in some places, from this we will understand how well we can plan the situation for next year, and i will tell you honestly, this year there is indeed a community that is difficult, but it is not yet the difficulty that awaits us next year, after all, somewhere who had all do you know who the reserves of funds are in january 23rd of the year, the situation will

be complicated even in december, because every month, especially now we will enter the autumn months, we have several challenges that the state will not be able to finance until the end, the first challenge is the large number of displaced persons, uhu, which will increase already yesterday, for example, i went to see such key flights. it was a zaporozhye train. a large number of people who did not come to rest in the carpathians had already arrived, although there was a period when tourists actually came to us even from kyiv for a week and went back, these are people who have already come to look for a place here where they can stay in the fall and winter , that is, taking advantage of the fact that it is necessary to arrive faster in order to keep places better than that. therefore, the first thing is that every heating point must have generators, this all falls on the shoulders of local budgets who should buy generators, heating points, someone will have 20 of them, someone will have 30, someone

will have 50, for example, a city like ivano-frankivsk will have at least 53 heating points, these will be schools, these will be hospitals these will be certain social institutions, well, wait , oksano, what is the difference between the heating point of the so -called shelter? yes, we understand that there are really a lot of people from the east and the south now , that is, well, in simple language, we understand that, unfortunately , there is no money, there is also a lack of logistical capacity, but in any case, we understand that jokes are jokes, a lot of cities and towns in the east and south have been destroyed, that is, people live in basements, sleep in basements, spend the night in basements and it’s cold. they don’t want to leave because they know that they are all right, but the cold will force them to be transferred to the west of the country, i don’t know, to the center of the country. but in order to meet them with dignity at the proper level, accordingly, there should also be, as you say

, heating centers and so on. and so on, and this is money. we have electricity, of course. these do not need a generator, but we understand that the problem may be , for example, with boiler houses in which, for example, they will be destroyed by the enemy and there will be no access to the energy carrier, so we are obliged to think about how to supply this heat from possible resources, that's what i'm saying about what the community is already doing today, that is, they have already started this process, this will mean that they need to buy, for example, at least 100 generators, for someone, 50 generators, the first, the second - this will mean that they need to have many different additional blankets, beds, and also wood, by the way i will tell you about wood, the state has set limits on the fact that the price for gas and electricity for the population will not increase. let's be honest, what do we have with wood?

the general situation with regard to the energy balance is also comprehensive, then this is part of the energy balance and today the cost of wood. for example, if last year we could buy a cubic meter of wood there for 700 uah, this year it is about 1,500 uah at best , that is why we turned to the matter. i personally turned to the prem and i say, let's set limits on wood fuel, because we will have it, you know, crisis fuel, if something is already gone, then there is firewood and people are starting. by the way, we saw how many people have wooden boilers for themselves bought for sure and this will mean that the cost will increase , so the cost of the price will increase, so the state must also set limits in this matter, this is called readiness, how will it be set? wartime i don't see any problems at all we are talking about markets when we have no war if we are talking about energy security in wartime believe me we can control it because

we have all the powers to do it the loggers fought for 30 years, i have been living to fight against illegal logging in the carpathians, so that the forest is hurting, and the forest is getting sick. there are fewer and fewer foresters . you know how we fight, they just want to centralize the forest farm into one state enterprise and call it the forests of ukraine. and here, by the way, the situation is very interesting. the deputies made an amendment and banned doing this for a year and voted it that for a year you can't touch the forests here it means that they would simply be monopolized in one hand, and in any case, monopolization is the fate of ukrspirt and ukrtelecom, it is quiet privatization, well , that is, control, yes. and this right came later in this law, it did not receive the support of the president, there were four sticks that in the previous the parliament actually voted at the meeting and this amendment was removed, that is,

we will keep the issue of forests under control because there is a desire without a disc of persons whom we will choose for the hands of the customs, the forest is all the moneymen, the place is being cleaned, because it is not about money, well, we understand that it’s november, the groups talk so, so, and people start to freeze. they wanted to make biofuel because we have a lot of it, but there wo n’t be enough fuel in the forest engine because we have a lot of grain, we could make biofuel ivan, we need you or don't you mind, well , there was no ukrainian suffix from the state. one hundred percent option is protected. that is, it is also on the shoulders of the community, part of the education will be an educational

subvention, wages. yes, we somehow understand that we cut back on education, everyone actually twisted it , for example, they pay for checking the balance sheets, because everyone had an online vacation, i understand somewhere. they are still something they cut somewhere, they cut back on culture, maybe the measures were not held, but still there are basic workers who need to be kept, give them wages. it is a glory to the rich ukrainians who did not leave. better earnings in poland and the question is whether they would already return from there. they stayed here. that is why this is a question for local communities. well, the key question is, of course, to cover the gas that they will consume with funds, that is, they should have their own income and, plus, feed those people. well, let us we say it is honest to find funds for food for those who will come because they will come. well, for example, a very large number of women with children will come. well, they will not have food because they will not have work, so isn't that actually a problem communities to find these funds, they will look for them in

order to buy them, not everyone will be able to find funds, for example, from international donor organizations, if you also need to be able to do this, and they come mainly from large regional centers, and they are small, there are a lot of people oksana, in your opinion, this is the scheme of financing or assistance to those communities , whether we want them or not, but tens of thousands of our singing citizens will be accommodated, who will be in the previous who are more than two million at least more. that is, we imagine that it is millions people who will come, believe me, they are thousands, i think it will be somewhere around 2 million, for sure, who will come here for a certain period. well, now there is no such system, that is, there is a certain system of assistance from the state, the state said that it gives people this assistance, where are military actions or she will be able to give , for example, help to those people who simply do not have heat and there are no military operations in them, for example, chernihiv region, we do not have this information yet. by the way, we do not have it, that is, you understand, then they will have to come for their own

code and if you saw it, the state should now deploy some humanitarian hubs in the great regions . for years, it has been deploying simply the question of who will pay for it when there is no money in what amount . as far as i understand, let us carefully understand that this state we have one. i really want all of us somewhere and the regional budgets to audit themselves, honestly, i am not saying that they should do everything, the city, community, region, but they should also do a lot, that is, we will have to look at that . budget. well, there are changes to the legislation where the mayor can make a decision more quickly through the executive committee. this is the first story. well, of course , the state will only give what it can give. and if we are honest, we understand that in the fall we still have active hostilities, we have weapons, we have military salaries, and we strongly expect that these will be large amounts of money. god forbid that we pay . unfortunately, this is the situation. these are social benefits for all

those who have them according to the law today. if we can do it, it will be big. function a i i'm just setting up the heads of the communities that we are we will all face the problem of food products, local hygiene products in kindergartens, schools, and this heating point or in this heat trap, as you say , today is the day of remembrance of the fallen journalists, on this very day 22 years ago, the journalists, the founder , disappeared ukrainian pravda georgy gongadze, let's remember how it was, oksano, and then we will finally listen to your comments . a headless body was discovered in the tarashchan forest near kyiv , which, according to the conclusion of the examination, could have belonged to the journalist involved in the murder of gongadze became a political earthquake for ukraine in november, the so-called mykola melnychenko tapes were made public, leonid kuchma's bodyguard, who secretly recorded

the president's conversations on kuchma's tapes, the head of his administration, volodymyr lytvyn, the minister of internal affairs yuriy kravchenko and the head of the sbu, leonid derkach , seem to be discussing gongadze's opposition activities and deciding what to do with him in december in the capital mass protests began, which grew into the action ukraine without kuchma in the spring of 2001, it was suppressed by the force of direct killers, they were detained only after the orange revolution in 2005, three experts of the department of external surveillance of the ministry of internal affairs, valery kostenko, bulo protasov , and oleksandr popovych were sentenced to terms of 12 to 13 years in 2009 their leader, the ex-head of the department oleksiy pugach, who confessed to the murder, was also detained. he received a life sentence as the mastermind of the murder. the investigation considered the former minister internal affairs of yuriy kravchenko, but he was already dead at the time, with the official version that he committed

suicide with two shots to the head of the gongadze family, on the other hand, he believes that the real perpetrators of the murder have not yet been named. all this time, the body of the journalist was in the morgue, because george's mother refused to recognize him as her son only after 15 and a half years, on march 22, 2016, he was buried in kyiv. well, of course, a tragic story. yes, mrs. oksana, number every year, we repeat the same question when the perpetrators of the murder gongadze will be punished, their names will be called. it seems to me that even when we kept access to all secret documents, including if it was possible, opportunities opened sooner or later after our victory, we get access to secret materials of the fsb because russia is an empire that sooner or later will fall apart inside from those nations even enslaved by it who will strive for their will and independence, we get a

lot of answers and who is the customer, because it seems to me that the orders also came from our neighbor, who could never allow ukraine to go on a different independent path, instead of them constantly believing that we should be, in fact , a continuation of the soviet union. will have more news, our children will be able to show it to us for sure. god willing, maybe it would be faster for us to find out about it, but we need political will to open this murder. i wish there was less political will in all cases of our of social and political life, so that the relevant bodies work in the legislation, well, but as the late leonid makarovych said, we have what we have what we don’t have, we accordingly don’t have it, and everything must be resolved with the help of political will oksana savchuk, people’s deputy of ukraine, members of the verkhovna rada committee on transport and

of infrastructures of infrastructures worked on the live broadcast of the information and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel for what and thank you very much thank you to ms. oksana burkovsky too thank you we worked we are something, we thanked him so much today, no less, the children still have giorgia gongadze, the ukrainian truth is alive now , it is true that it is already changing there. which also adheres to journalistic standards, it is tireless angelika, how did our news service work there, we are also with the audience. thank you for your high-quality and professional work, colleagues. why did they kidnap a russian agent on duty in the capital? the security service of ukraine made a powerful explosion at the airfield in melitopol, we will watch