no, this is a consensus that all nato members should be yes. and that we now see finland and sweden, too, while they are not. it was accepted because turkey is also there. it has a slightly different position . 30 members of penato for eh, but for now i am not sure that of course all this needs to be worked on, but in principle, indeed, it is possible because such things can be said about territorial eh issues and and in other countries , members of nato, thank you, thank you, we say, eh, members of the european parliament and the former head of the estonian внешнополитического домества урмас поета thank you , sir, let's break away from this program and let's start answering mykola's questions. this is the first question from yaroslav ostrovsky. now many pseudo-experts are saying that a second front is opening against putin because of the conflict between

armenians and azerbaijanis. don't you think that putin is is the main beneficiary of this conflict, military clashes in the countries of the former union, no continuation of the grain agreement, the victory of the right wing of sweden, which can give impetus to other european countries non-supply of gas, the destruction of important infrastructural targets in our country, don't you think that they changed their fathers and now with the military option they will work according to a completely different scenario, thereby creating great chaos well, it seems to me that this is not even the beginning, this is a continuation of the story, first of all, a continuation, but i i am absolutely not convinced that even i have always had suspicions that there may be some kind of agreement between washington and moscow, but that we do not invade their territories. and they do not shoot at civilian infrastructure. i have a document, but if you assume that you have a good imagination, as vitaly does, and imagine it , then on the contrary, this chaos and shelling of civilian

infrastructure untie your hands to receive these missiles that fly at 300 km. that is, the first and second are of no profit for putin, armenian, azerbaijani, kyrgyz, tajik , in the words of the president of kazakhstan, that he, uh, is coming out, can come out of the attack without a demand, the word was denied, and it always has, i never said it, it was you, it was a message, they did not officially announce it who knows well, let's see vostok, where the brass is shorter , all this does not mean a strengthening of russia's position, the victory of the right in sweden does not mean any strengthening of russia's influence . we don't need

freedom, we are ready to smoke putin, i am not convinced . i think that everything is the opposite, that the situation is for putin. and the fact that sydynpin does not come to dinner with putin and there are many such bells, and i am not convinced that everything that is happening now is in favor of putin i'm even afraid that this is for putin's anti benefit, it's just that he will have a lot of trouble at some point in time, but it's still a very small bell, very thin, and i have a completely opposite opinion about the contributor. well, i just think that conflicts in the post-soviet space are what moscow needs and i believe that they are really provoking conflicts between armenians, azerbaijan, between tajikistan and kyrgyzstan, and you will see a lot of such conflicts now. this is a small-cut tactic, and why is it needed? it is not even needed for that. in order to get something in the war from ukraine and in order to

prove to a civilized education that all this is a state file, this is a fait state, but ukraine has no way to control its territory. peace and when was russia oh and when was russia means that they should kill each other amazing mykola that tajikistan and kyrgyzstan are at war with each other and their presidents meet each other without even trying to act in the role of the mediator, they are both members of the ocd. well, do you meet with them? no, it’s good that they can talk to each other. this already says a lot. well , all the same, it seems to me that putin’s influence, putin’s figure, putin’s figure has decreased the more putin admits defeat in ukraine. and he sits

his with kharkiv which he which according to his general opinion on posrelyansky putin lost in kharkiv putin is not a winner putin will lose but that does not mean that he cannot destabilize for the operation he can but more he can't - he can't pahan is not in authority hello, regarding the victory of the swedish democrats, it will definitely change the political map of europe, from which point of view it was already the case in austria, every time you say that you can let a xenophobic party into the government or vote for the government, you are creating serious problems for the future europe and, of course, for the future of ukraine, because i want to remind you that it once happened when in one of the eastern federal states of germany, the christian democrats voted together with the alternative of germany for a state government, these alternatives even they did not intend to enter this government, she simply supported it so that there would be a government without social democrats and

leftists, it ended with the fact that this organization was dissolved. they all resigned. also in connection with such mistakes, but when the swedish right-wing, who always said that they will not deal with the far-right, come to an agreement with them. sweden, what is the meaning of the events in sweden, swedish prague has no chance to form a government if they were not supported by the far right, if now the far right did not say that they will be part of the government, now there was a completely different configuration, of course when xenophobes come to power - this raises serious questions about the future of the european project by the way, this same one will now take place in italy. it is simply better for ukraine there. well, there is a leader for women leaders. yes, she is a leader. she does not like, does not like putin. into the sidewalk with such a party means that the

question arises, how much are you for democracy? so what is here is not about putin, it is about the future of this civilization in general, which we want to be a part of. but i think that europe will survive . it's hard for me to imagine that with all the xenophobia, no one there wants anything, the democrats don't say what we asked, they just aren't interested in ukraine from other parties, they don't talk about ukraine. they are interested in the fight against runaway women. always happens with the far right, but this does not mean that the swedish government will not help ukraine regarding the fact that putin destroyed infrastructure facilities, so he will do it throughout the war so that you can force the ukrainians even after the hot stage will take place for six months, just because not everyone agreed with us but now everyone sees it unfortunately, this is also a challenge, and these habits can be answered as the armed forces of ukraine answer to liberating the territory, the more without a free territory, the

less chance there is to get through the e-e infrastructure yes, yes it's just big missiles, expensive and you won't launch many, even yes. which russia is more dangerous for ukraine? poor and totalitarian or wealthy and democratic, because apparently their imperial ambitions for ukraine will never be shared anywhere, and accordingly, the author asks and answers, i still to be honest, i think democratic russia is safer for us because it won't shoot at us. well, it's just me. it's hard for me. i can imagine how i can allow myself to keep complete hatred for russia and a clear head in my imagination. democratic how can i imagine a democratic russia in my head it's hard for me it's hard for me now it's hard for me and i can't imagine a democratic russia i've

seen it i've seen the baju-balyuvala disappeared and after that the fascist government works democrats and by the way the question is whether she was, that is, if she wants to before this war, i always said that there is a danger of russian democracy in that a large number of our compatriots as soon as russia becomes democratic will run in its direction with cries of "oh, why do we need this europe and here is cheap gas" and it's great, sergeevich pushkin will write our names on the wreckage, but now after all this horror, they won't run anywhere. i have decided that now we are not afraid of the democrats, because i think that none of the ukrainians will ever want to have fraternal relations with any russia, the neighbors are the only way out for us, yes, they are neighbors. thank you for not shooting, we will agree on some kind of coexistence, but we won't speak your language sorry goodbye

we won't study your version of history sorry you've already seen it we won't join any blocs with you maybe someday you want to join the european union then rewrite your idiotic history textbooks so that they match real stories i.e. you will do everything because we are going to civilization before, as we will tell you, this is the attitude towards democratic russia, it should learn from democratic ukraine, to agree, just believe that it will happen quickly and not quickly impossible just in general but now it’s not possible at all maybe in 10 maybe two years ago 30 years ago that’s what you and i have already discussed on i painted such an imaginary imaginary picture that even the so -called liberals started something they don’t like it already around august and august september when it came to visas, somehow they understood something. look

, when the russians say that the water in your house needs to be repaired. okay, i understand. the gas is bad. okay, the heat is okay. and when it turns out that your house is rotten, the whole of russia should just change putin. and everything will be fine if you always had big victories achieved yes, including yes you that's what and dance yourself your hopak where do i say yes yes yes we know all these photos that's when i realized that it 's still a terrible value for them and russia is still people, everyone is an informationally neutered world, this is how much you have to get out of your head and these thoughts and against our greatness in theirs

. i will start, well, they started, yes, but people want to have a monument to the soviet soldier, what is this? liberator, too , pluralism, where is europe? i am so dear , they come, they come to someone else’s house and they just start coming . i'll tell you how to live well, by the way, it's not even russian. and i'll tell you honestly, it's not a russian heritage, it's a bolshevik heritage, but we read how the russians behaved in this same latvia in the 20s and 30s of the 20th century. they were, i would say, they were model citizens of the latvian state, they were latin-speaking, they created a business there. they wanted to be part of latvian society. that is, there is no, if you read, whether they were against them

. there were a lot of russians, eurasians, and large numbers of them, and then the bees came, and they were always there. part of this whole world, there is no attempt to teach russia this y-y latvian republic culture yes high and then the bolshevik commissars came and found their wife in the drawers nightgowns correct pulled up in the theater, they say hello, what kind of culture is there, and at the words, you close it, and then you already teach people about life, and this is what you can say to all our esteemed liberal and democratic colleagues, who went to riga, who went there to some other european capitals, and for and they they sincerely believe that you understand, because there are great traditions of latin journalism, and the newspaper operates on, let's say, which appeared in the 90s in riga, we were surprised, listen. it turns out that our latvian colleagues can make a european newspaper, that is, a newspaper. yes, i remember during the soviet era, everyone wrote about the soviet youth,

see why it could be because the traditions of the press were different there than in moscow, why did you write magazines or stalin in moscow from riga? and now it turns out that you read them again to learn about culture. well, it’s difficult. well, it’s terrible i just imagined it. i watched it all. all these competitions. riga between the russians. what were the first days? it probably didn't reach the liberals what they had done. they were still discussing among themselves. well, where is freedom? i say. put on a short skirt and go to kabul to take interview no, she will understand that they would probably become mine - it's not worth joking, but with latvians you can easily pressurize it, remove it, put it, do it , there is no idea of ​​studying the local situation, yes, the local situation and the local language, i always say listen if you want to be a russian journalist in latvia everything is automatic then you deal with russia

if you want to be part of the local landscape baldis sorry yes so learn latin and compete with latin journalists we are here we speak ukrainian we are ukrainian journalists if we want to talk with russian as an audience, we do not speak to her in ukrainian without a doubt and this is absolutely logical. we speak to her to them and you want to sit on obscheponyatno veskh uchyli zhizni and all just cried etu mileli bomzh finally it hasn't been 30 years they came back ha ha ha your prediction with regard to the year of ukraine's accession to the european union, this can be calculated arithmetically 202 this is a bad forecast in 2022 we will assume that we will fulfill the conditions set for us by joining the european union we will not lose we will not lose we will not lose means that in 2023, approximately on the 23rd-24th, the

study of ukrainian legislation by the european commission will begin, monitoring and ukrainian law compliance of this legislation by the european people. this is just a procedure. this procedure is just purely technical. it will take four years ends in 2027-28. if we need it i think a year for damage claims and i hope why this is an option let's hope that hungary or other countries will not make claims to us about the fact that we do not treat national minorities in the same way, that we do not have the same form, that the arrests will be re-elected, and this is a different possibility. that this will not happen with us, because if it happens , i do not give you any guarantees to order it at all. but

let's hope that it will not happen in principle , then there are two options for closing these sections which are proposed by the european union regarding the compliance of the legislation, so these sections, uh, according to an optimistic scenario, let's say the gdańsk cottages were closed for 10 years. in principle, 2040-45 years, this is all a real date, if at the same time, in this subdivision, which is uh, we have to close, there will be no point and so on, but the republic of serbia has such a point and so on, and there, for example, regulation of relations with kosovo, and this and about what's up and you know and we let's go you will first do about whether and then we will discuss all the other sections and that we have written the settlement of territorial disputes with the russian

federation and ask . in principle, we can realistically expect that by 2050, ukraine will be a full member of the european union, but it can be if we follow the procedures, if there is some kind of miracle, maybe, maybe, yes, but it’s still the 37th, let ’s say so, let’s say the 35th, the 30th 35 well, we are anyway before, that means, well, that's all. the terms that were calculated in the middle. i want to tell you 2025. everything will be fine, but you understand that it's also not what you think. how does it happen there? it's money from european union funds. it's a change in legislation. it's guarantees for investments. it is very necessary to join nato by this time, otherwise, by the time we join the european court, what will you spend 100 years after the occupation

of some ukrainians permanently, the russians will simply destroy them during this time, so nato has a prerequisite for success european integration is good for montenegro, that's why all this will be coordinated when the average there, i don't know , for annual gdp per capita is €50,000. and then such a strong economy with the auto industry with this and that and that and that and then the germans did not want to pay for defense and the germans already wanted us to pay 2%, or three or maybe even four and that is already four if there is such an economy each i will look into my pocket ugh and so that you understand in europe approximately whether russia and the united states are superpowers, there are no other superpowers in the modern world, this too it's all an illusion, the fact that we are defeating so much and so much on the battlefield simply means that this superpower is afraid to use nuclear weapons because it

does not yet know what consequences for its existence it will lead to, or whether it will not lead to such a conflict that in the end with russia yes, of course and in everything else , russia is not a strong state, as we saw in the usual armed forces, but we do not know, by the way, whether other states are strong states, usually in the armed forces, because the world of all these ten-year partnerships every time these nuclear states entered into simple and unusual situations like the united states and afghanistan. it turned out that everything is not as simple as it seems, so it will remain like this, and by the way, they ask about... moscow is still too powerful, no matter what they say there, and this is russia - it is something that has the ability to destroy humanity, this is a clear explanation

of russian civilization, and it is unpleasant, but it is a fact. it is incomprehensible that everyone will be and what is the economy weak army stupid political system idiotic population drinks more from the uninhabited territory что это такое well, this is what yosipov serhiyevich stalin said somewhere in the 49th year, lavrintsia will be burned near lavrintsia if we have there will be no bombs, then they will destroy us easily and it will not be possible for several months, what are we lavrynians? no, i don't, i think that china will watch china, by the way, i don't believe that everyone is very afraid of siberia this is how we hide at this moment, the south china sea - this is the real way of the chinese control that, that's all. and in the north, they produce

most of the chips for the screen, or the vladivostoks do nothing, well, they'll take away the forest, take away the fur, take it away, yes, it's so stupid for them to conquer it when it's so and so. that they still supply gas with the money for the construction of the gas pipeline, that is, on the layer of ours, that is, now the gas that is supplied in russia. yes, it’s simple. they give china a gift to china. why should he give up the layer, everything is fine, then we will finish the lawn, so you we will give everything. it may be. it may be. when, when, when you said, we will want to. we will buy your oil anyway. tell me, thank you. yes, that’s why you could not buy and you were sitting now. do you help yourself at all? yes, i

still have a question. by the way, i am thinking about this citizenship of the judge, but here are the people who lived in ukraine itself. a passport that can be issued an apartment in moscow, do you remember that now there are no more ukrainian classics, about which there is so much discussion about the museum, he said that muscovites are muscovites, after all, somehow plus the apartment issue well, he was already a specialist in muscovites, and not until yana and otse it's simple well, although well, listen, the war has started, do something, i don't know, do something, do something. well, what if

a person is in the 12th year? well, there was already so much time to take a breath. structures higher, lower, regional, and just in case , apartments, and here they will come