we were friends, we traveled to each other there, belgorod-bryansk, tula, after all, we are brothers, you saw it in kharkiv oblast, so you draw a conclusion for yourself, why some communities were occupied, others were not. well, there is no such direct connection, you know, between the occupation and the communities that were in fact, this is where the russian soldiers entered there. they were able to enter chuguiv region in the early days of the war. they were shelled. well, on february 24, i woke up to explosions and they were shelling from two sides because chuguiev is a military town, and troops entered chuguiv and there were russian tanks on in our streets, but they were bombed, smashed and pushed further from the city from our community, well, literally 15 km away from the line of the city , so there is no such direct correlation with the fact that

only those cities that, well, were occupied who were pro-russian or pro-ukrainian, let's say, for example, vovchansk is generally a city that stands on the border and they, in fact, the whole city, well , this small city lived thanks to the fact that it was close to the border and they had pro-ukrainian views , more precisely, pro-russian views because there even well, everyone caught the channels that are prohibited in our country, but here the situation is completely different and, first of all, this is due to the fact that no one was waiting for the russians. no one met them. no one actually invited them to us for cooperation, even if well, we went to cooperate. well, we need to understand our ukrainians, our people, that when you are under occupation for a month or two, when the products are issued. well, i do

n’t have such confirmed information yet, but the products, even access to the products. well, you could have them only if you had some kind of partially or match with russians well, what can we say about the fact that when they want to kill your loved ones or you, well, they killed you simply because you turned on the light after six o'clock, after the curfew. well, there are two people under grakova somewhere in the village. two men sat down together to drink there . to sit and talk and drank and the russians came to them and just killed them because they turned on the light well, there is a curfew on the 6th in the morning until 6:00 a.m. 6 in the evening until six in the morning you can’t turn on the light and so they violated this curfew and they were simply killed, so there is no direct connection here they are just russians, they are invaders, they came to our land and decided that they can do whatever they want. what

have you been to these communities? do you recommend returning to the local communities who left? a community that was not occupied but was located not far from the occupied territories. even now , no one is returning to our city. there is no such mass return, you know. the number of projectiles that hit, they hit with seven-mine mechanisms, and i know just a few dsns workers who work on demining, and they say that there is a lot of work, and before that, when uh, well, they just worked on demining those projectiles that flew in. and now, even more so, there are a lot

works and here is another factor, these occupied territories that were freed are closer to them than russia, therefore, the threat is even higher there chuguiv well, thank god, it has become easier, there is no artillery, there are only missiles, but here is kupyansk, for example, or vovchansk, they very close to russia and unfortunately the artillery reaches there and they, well, we can see from the photos of the general staff that they are still being shelled, so the return of the civilian population, well, i do not recommend it at all, if someone wants to take autumn clothes, well, believe me, there is nothing to wear, yes, believe me, it is better to buy new ones things than risking one's own life or that of one's children to go after some kind of property, well, in that territory that is under great threat. thank you very much, mr. dmytro, for taking the time to join our broadcast dmytro dropa, a member of the chiguiv city council and a volunteer

kharkiv oblast about the liberation of the territory of our native kharkiv oblast, oleksandr skoryk, a deputy of the kharkiv regional council , oleksandr, welcomes you, wishes you good health. thank you. good health. well, let's start with yesterday's visit of the president to the liberated izyumsk from izyum. it was yesterday, if i didn't confuse anything, and there he is, er, there is a photo , now they will show it to us and a video. he said that pensions will be paid to pensioners for the entire period of occupation. that is, it is almost six months er. yes, er tell me, please, what are the other signs of the return of power to their places, how will this pension be paid, or in cash, how do people receive it? do you know, well, look? we have some communities that, even under the conditions of occupation, were, uh, able to pay uh, some

pensions for example, the head of the pechenivka united territorial community managed to simply transfer through the pechenivka reservoir to the other side through dams there were pensions, humanitarian aid by car and he succeeded, for which he has great respect and thanks because these are the funds for what kind of people actually survived, now power is returning to the occupied territories. i believe that yesterday's visit by the president is a very brave step because izyum is very close. oleksandr skoryk is with us , a deputy of the kharkiv regional council, the probability that they could have arrived, a rocket could have arrived, well, it was very dangerous there. i think that this is

quite a risk, but we showed our enemies that the president calmly comes to the occupied territories with his entire entourage there and a very large number of soldiers, this is indicative of the people who are there they live and it is indicative for our military, well, this is a bold step, i congratulate him there, uh, regarding the liberated territories, the mail goes there, the mail goes there, the nova poshta package goes there, the police immediately came and started cleaning the collaborators . well, everything is returning to normal life, stable, all bodies authorities immediately, the heads of e-e district e-e military civil administrations appeared in the cities. well, e-e. the authorities are being restored very quickly, very quickly in all cases, and in villages and cities, the councils do not have powers now, as management is done by community heads. i ca

n’t tell you why there isn’t. well, for example, where it wasn’t occupied, they worked there. they held sessions. there were no problems. they worked there . of the voters of this district and, well, there is a military administration, it is immediately working there, and i think that they will convene a session in the near future if they are needed, if such decisions are needed in order for the life of the community to be, well, under supported eh but i think that it will not be in time with the stock exchange, there will be a solution in time, eh, directly, at the expense of the head of the district council, the direct management of solving immediate problems, which urgent problems , which are very, well, there are a lot of them, the problem with medicine, the problem with schools, there is a problem with the social

group with communal structures, well, there are really a lot of problems with the programs because, well, they came, you know, they destroyed everything and left, as they usually do everywhere, not only in ukraine, everywhere where the russian peace comes e there comes devastation there grief is coming, so there is a lot of work, you said the word destroyed . according to your information, what is the most developed community destroyed in the sense of the freed people and what are the percentages of destruction hello hello yes we hear you according to the experts of our military according to the experts of our military we believe that kupyan is not kup' yansk raisins destroyed by 85 there 90% practically everything is destroyed and now every day the volume as at home will lead to the fact that the shelling of

kupyansk will lead to the fact that what kind of structure kupyansk will also be destroyed such a percentage that is, the percentage ratio, because every day they shell it there, the center was practically demolished, what we saw from the video footage and what our soldiers tell us, they will also demolish kupyansk, of course, with this . they can't do anything on the battlefield, they just ran away like bad dogs, and now they are just throwing shells from the ditch because, well, they are standing over there across the river, this is pure revenge . let's say it frankly, the mayor of the city, the collaborator surrendered the city and simply said, let them find the russians because we don't want the destruction of the

city, but when they left, the destruction of the city began, they once again showed what they are up to. these are ordinary terrorists who, regardless of what, destroy everything that exists ukrainian everything that er is er not theirs, so to speak. so if it was under occupation, it was theirs, then it was beautiful and the people there were normal and everything was fine, but as soon as he was released, they started shelling him. well, how is that possible to call it simple bengali revenge on the people for what they well for the fact that they accepted the ukrainian government back for the fact that they help the military and so on. i think that this is the last information in the basement in kupyansk, five teenagers were released and they were received by the military of the russian federation as it turned out that by the time of the release, four girls and a boy had been in the basement for seven days, teenagers and residents of the izyum and chuguyiv districts of kupyan were students of the educational institution,

future doctors, the girls and the boy were released they said that the occupiers conducted filtering measures with them, after which they locked them in the basement without explaining the reasons, what, did you know about these crimes, how many of them have already been recorded, what else, we may not have seen even in buch, oleksandr, you can hear us poorly, but i heard i understand what you talked about in the basement of the teenagers , so i didn’t find them, i didn’t get them , i don’t know about this story yet, but i can clearly state the fact that there were torture chambers in all the liberated territories, there were basements and cities in all the liberated territories filtering cities and cities for bullying the ukrainian population of people who support the military people who have an open opinion about the ukrainian position in order for

you to fall into the basement, you just need to have a ukrainian position for the ukrainian position, so i think that there will be many more such stories. unfortunately, they will be even more brutal because they are terrorists , they are occupiers, they behave in a typical way, nothing changes in them, torture, rape, bullying, looting, extortion of money, and so on, buy out all the attributes of terrorist activity. every day we will receive more and more information about the purchased territories and it is recorded in the occupied territories and sexual rape, including violence, including everything is recorded. i think that when the time comes to make a summary of this on this issue, the authorities

will do it or our regional police will do or the sbu will do such a detailed briefing and they will talk about it anyway, but the terrible figure was already on the raisin, the deputies said that about a thousand killed had already been recorded, very difficult, very difficult today, let's count how many people were killed in izyumshchyna because, well, 80% of the city is in ruins. what is the situation there in those houses that are completely destroyed , which shells hit the basements, which are mined, a lot of mined in the liberated territories, a lot of mined buildings, mined basements and we have not yet we know the exact picture, but it is exactly like

that. some of the places still haven't made it to the mss. denssniks and experts who are currently mining, so let's say what 's actually there, count it all, approximately this one . it could be worse in the kyiv region. a pile of undismantled rubble, do you admit that there could be a more terrible picture of the liberated kharkiv oblast than bucha irpin. when they took raisin, they bombed it, and when the russians took raisin, they occupied it, they simply shot it with all types of artillery. at that time , the evacuation of people was practically impossible. therefore the number of people who were in the city was practically very large, and i admit that there may be a large number of victims, because

if you remember, there was even a flight from the area of ​​the hospital when it was completely destroyed, there were flights from to the basements, well, a direct flight into the basement, in which it was unknown how many people were at the time when the projectile flew, well, it is very, very difficult to count it, it is very difficult to count the bridge that is broken. points, you said about the mayor of kupyansk, so someone gave the city, there are many traitors in the ranks of local self-government in kharkiv region, to say that there are many of them, they are mainly of course, of course, they are supporters of the party of regions, namely the opz, and

we do not see a large number of rank-and-file people there we know that in our country matsogora surrendered his city, there were some elders who went over to the side of the occupiers, well, this is a small number, and there are some deputies and deputies ' assistants, i can't say that it was mass , because it was not a small mass nature, and i want to note that regardless of where the settlements are located there, for example , vovchansk and kozacha lopan, i didn't even believe that we would be able to free them because they are located very close to the border and now, after the liberation, they will be shelled not just by barrel artillery there, but even there by mortars with a diameter of 60-80s, as they do during the liberation of sumy oblast, chernihiv oblast , kyiv oblast, where er border areas are heavily

shelled er, i want to say that there was no big of the number of collaborators of traitors among the deputies and among local officials, so to speak, the support of the russians is very low, even in the population centers that used russian television there, well, this is vovchan. we long ago asked the regional council the question of what we have already allocated funds there to build a tower that will house ukrainian television e. it was shown there all this time before the occupation, there was not even ukrainian television, everyone, even t2, tuned in to the russian channel that's why you understand what propaganda is, how many in the regional council do you have representatives of pro-russian parties upszh shariy and you also had shariy there yes, we don't have me, we have er, we have bags of

shariy in the regional council we only have opzzh e- what kind of disbanded there now? they call us differently now. 20 on the 20th, the session of the regional council is planned to be continued. we will see what they will be called here . you and more than 120 deputies are powerful enough for the regional council yes only yes and we don't have sharia, only the city council has five, five, in my opinion, deputies from four lipids in the liberated izyum. and they still report for the throne, but they detained two traitors somewhere, local residents voluntarily cooperated with the occupiers alone joined the ranks of the so-called people's militia, and the second worked in their e pseudo-administration. are there many collaborators among the local population? yes,

there are actually many collaborators for russia. in fact, there is not much openness of ukraine. with collaborators with the occupiers, forced well, for example, in order to receive a pension, you had to get a russian passport well, how can a person live for a period of two passes three passes or for example, take a humanitarian woman or can a person not take a humanitarian woman even if she is a big supporter of it ukrainians there love her with all their heart, but you understand when there is no pension , no money, nothing. it is necessary to survive physically, therefore the concept of collaborator and collaboration must be divided so little because there is forced forced cooperation in the authorities in their gauleiters there are

such and such people who, er, became school directors there for vegetables well, for example, you know vovchanska became er, they put a headmaster there, frankly a bandit, who has no er, no relation there at all to the educational sphere and they simply put it because he is oleksandr skoryk, can you hear us, a deputy of the kharkiv regional council, about the local population that cooperated with the enemy well, of course, there were those who simply lived there and fell under the occupation and were somehow forced to interact with but there was also a very conscious and proactive part of the occupying authorities. for example, how did they detain these two traitorous girls, they worked there in the people's militia and the other in the administration. well, it is dangerous to return to liberate the territory during the day in kupyansk area, a mine blew up and a

54-year-old man was injured, and now i will quote the head of the kharkiv regional military administration, he said, which i emphasize , returning to the de-occupied territories until they are fully demined can be dangerous along the line the enemy is shelling the positions of our military and is regrouping its units, our defenders continue to destroy the occupiers, inflicting great losses on their forces and equipment, they do not recommend returning to kharkiv oblast, and the head of the military administration and local deputies, oleksandr skoryk , are with us again. please tell me, the deputy of the kharkiv regional council e p. oleksandr, well, about the collaborators, we say so. and these lists, which were worked out in prisons only in balaklia , three of them have already been found to be so prisons, that is, they are local activists there, doctors, priests, journalists, i don't know who else, add teachers, these are the same lists, they

were prepared, well, ours. it turns out like merkupyanska , or what do you think, where did they start the torture? the ukrainian position of people who are members of the party of european solidarity uh, these are all those people, people who we are supporters of uh, the orthodox church of ukraine, people who talk about what they call nazism , confusing it with nationalism, simply out of love for their countries, unfortunately, in the kharkiv region, there is now a bad connection everywhere, we know because we tried to connect with the raisin, which was one of the first to be released, but almost now it is 90% destroyed and there is simply no

connection there. all our services and operators are just starting to come in. they are trying to restore something there. well , i see that kharkiv oblast has a very unstable mobile connection, especially in those territories that were liberated. oleksandr skoryk should return to us, because mr. oleksandr, we have well, let's move on to the topic. because there is not much time in winter, if you say that raisins and kupyansk was the most affected, raisin, up to 90% of the destruction is there. that is, there is no gas or water. nothing. and what to do next. we need to restore at least the light, because without light, you can't live at all, well, it's impossible to live without light or gas . there is no water, no electricity, and we have even in the territory that has been liberated for a long time, such as circuses, for example there, cherkasska tyshki russkaya lozova, we

still have no electricity there, and well, there is nothing, no communal services, so people can’t live there because you we stayed there someone stayed as they cook their own food, what do they do, they cook their own food on rafts, on firewood, uh, and they live as you used to know there in the past age, people lived there in the village when there is nothing, some have generators, this allows one per street generator, this allows there to start it and, er, in order to charge the phone there, some kind of e that work on batteries, well, it is very difficult to live. well, i will tell you that there are very few people who live there. there are very few of them in these settlements . in the circus life ago that there is no such possibility, quite a few settlements

need to evacuate people from there, those who remained, is there any point in renewing something there, how should we prepare for winter, in particular, in the liberation of kharkiv oblast, for example, there are such villages that you, for example, will be a policeman, where the village there is practically 100% destroyed, then there is no point in restoring anything there, when practically the entire territory of the village has been destroyed , there are no such settlements where 50 to 70 percent will be destroyed, the infrastructure and all the premises there and so on are absolutely necessary look at that what is the number of undamaged premises, what is the number of what about the networks, because it is not easy to restore the networks either, when there were so many shellings, for example, it will be almost impossible to restore the gas networks, because they are all cut to pieces plus a very large number of minefields

territories, even if you want to renew something , there is no banal access to these territories , a very, very difficult situation - it will not be possible to do it in this short period, uh, until winter, because there is still time left until winter, so in my opinion, it is necessary carry out evacuations from such territories where we are not able to restore at least light, and regarding the city of kharkiv, well, look, i'm not even here, we can't even talk to you right now. i'm off the air for the third time because we have an unstable connection connection, all this became the reason for the fact that the causal investigative connection with the fact that the father had a blow, we now do not have enough, uh , electricity. problems with e-e number of volts per u

networks and problems at enterprises because they can not start the equipment because there is not enough 180-190 v, well, it is very difficult, very difficult, and if the text is not restored, then even kharkiv will have to flee to those apartments with central heating. they also will not be able to live practically because if they are going to heat, for example, with electricity, then the networks will not last, i just won't last, there will be fires, there will be, there will be calamities, that's why the situation in kharkiv oblast is very difficult, how to tell the populated areas of kharkiv oblast, so liberated, that was the information they found missing people there, they are looking for russian soldiers, they continue to clear the territory and in the course of the counteroffensive, we know that not everyone managed to escape. the russians also left the equipment. well, it is clear that somewhere there, perhaps russian soldiers also left behind, and they found one, he

simply hid somewhere in a house, we can hear a piece of his conversation remained to cover up the exit or what happened so they left me the disgrace of people abandon their officers we are the fate of fate aleksandr semenov is the name of this prisoner what do you think a lot there are a lot of such lost people in the kharkiv region, somewhere in the forests, in the houses . i would send you a lot from my personal archive, well, i can’t do that. no, because, well, it can’t be done until they turn these people over, mr. oleksandr, into personal files . i can send a lot from the front. we receive the most of these so -called casualties in the direction of raisin. because ours were

hit there very instantly and hit from the east, and they just crashed in an incredible number over there in the forest. captured this simply means that they don't count. it 's neither their soldiers nor their military, nor their people. it's a banal escape. they just ran away like the last dogs. they just ran and left everything in the world. well, including people. if you didn't have time, you had time to escape. i had time, uh, stand like in the picture, i’m telling you about what you’re talking about and uh, unfortunately, well, they gave me unfortunately, and the song of the ukrainian military, but i don’t feel sorry for them. we, our military, worked there as gunners’ correctors and a lot of people. which will be oleksandr, on the one hand, we adhere to the convention of a civilized country