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among the kyiv underground for our military volunteers, doctors, rescuers and railway workers, watch dorofeeva's live performance today at 10 p.m. glory to ukraine, where the draft law on criminal liability for obtaining a russian passport in the temporarily occupied territories has not yet been published, however, according to microintegration, it refers to civil servants and city-level officials who received russian passports and if this law is passed, they will be criminally responsible for it in in the form of imprisonment for many, many years, is it advisable to introduce such a punishment at all, let's talk about it, the lawyer, the manager of the advocacy of the human rights center, the change by alyona lunyova alyona, i congratulate you. i congratulate you. do you,
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as a human rights defender, support the idea of criminalizing obtaining a russian passport during the occupation ? we all understand about the conditions under which people are under occupation and about the fact that the occupiers force them to accept russian citizenship . we have seen and heard the crimea strategy, we have seen this strategy in luhansk, donetsk region, which was occupied until february 24, and we see this in the territories that are now under the temporary control of the russian army, so even though the ministry of integration has significantly reduced the number of people who can be responsible for obtaining a russian passport by changing their rhetoric from the fact that it is necessary to bring to justice everyone who received russian citizenship under martial law to a special so-called subject, i.e. public employees would still say that it is really expedient, very difficult. and what are the key risks of such a
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draft law, such a decision as a punishment for obtaining a russian passport, i think that here it is worth talking about proportionality, yes, because you said about many, many years, and that is from 10 to 15 years and that is really a lot. and when we say that a person formally received a russian passport and did not do anything else, the question arises whether a similar punishment is proportionate for him and if such a person held certain positions in state bodies or the occupation administration, then she committed treason and multiplying the articles of the criminal code. thus, as it has been happening for the last six months, it makes it difficult to distinguish between them, and it does not allow us to normally distinguish the composition of treason, collaborative activity, assistance of the state, coercion or obtaining a russian passport. that is, all these compositions of their it is very difficult to distinguish. therefore, first of all, this is a question of legal, well, actually technique and the
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addition of new articles somewhere to the criminal code of the code will not significantly solve the issue of prosecuting people who have already received passports because the law does not have retroactive effect. that is, we will have this criminal liability when this article appears in the criminal code of ukraine, it may be in a few months that's why we really want to bring to justice those who allegedly already hold certain positions and used their positions as of february 24 in order to strengthen the occupiers. they don't receive punishment, it's just not even completely clear what this criminal liability for a passport is for, if a traitor can be tried under the article on treason, this is some kind of duplication, this is one of the reasons why we as public organizations did not support this bill, it has been discussed for quite a long time, even in this form which is really compromising, it is not, er, cannibalistic, you know
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when everyone should answer . only about obtaining stripes of human freedom of the russian federation, this is about coercion, for example, obtaining a passport of a citizen of the russian federation, because it is planned to add another article to the criminal code, despite the fact that in the 14th year, the criminal e-e implementation is based on the facts of coercion to obtain passports of the russian federation, but for existing purity of 438 war crimes, i.e. the time of the 14th year of forcing to obtain a russian passport was considered a war crime; now , after 8 years, the state decided to highlight it in there should be a separate composition and say another composition of the war crime. and this calls into question the further investigation of those cases that were opened before this law came into force. from your point of view, how should the state react to people who
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received russian passports during the occupation if we do not know because of what did people do? did they sincerely want to join the russian world or were they forced ? when they say that all those who received russian passports during the occupation are those who were forced to do so, we do not recognize these citizenships, we call on our international partners to not recognize this citizenship, so it is very strange that we want to punish for something that we ourselves do not recognize, it is obvious that people who are under occupation cannot we cannot more accurately establish whether they voluntarily did something or not because a priori when you have russian military behind you with weapons it is difficult to talk about any specific voluntariness and even all the propaganda videos that were filmed, they cannot be proof that people really wanted to get russian passports or anything else, therefore, uh, additionally criminalization
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of any actions or such uh, actions of a person in the occupation. she simply acts on intimidation of the local population and this is not very good for the further de-occupation and reintegration of those territories and what does international law say about such situations , firstly, obtaining a passport in the occupation, and secondly , the punishment for obtaining this passport there are no special norms in international law regarding this, and we can say that there are general advisory positions regarding the voluntariness and necessity of the voluntary acquisition of citizenship of any country, but when we talk again about the fact that the russian federation uses the issue of citizenship in order to actually force people to be under their jurisdiction and then to do anything with these people, for example to call them into the ranks of the armed forces of the russian federation, this will already be a violation the norms of international law, that is, in fact
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, citizenship is used as a preamble to further war crimes committed by the russian federation on the territories of ukraine temporarily occupied by it, if you know how to do it right, then the people who received these russian passports during the occupation should offer them the state of ukraine after that, so that they simply recall these passports. did they somehow come and surrender them? they may have lost their ukrainian passports in this process, what to do with them technically, so far there is no such solution the only thing is, in fact, this will be a really relevant issue for crimea and for certain districts of the donetsk luhansk region and for the territory that is currently under the control of the russian federation. it is obvious that the usual procedures for renunciation of citizenship will not apply here, because we can not force our people to apply to the russian federation with a request to withdraw from their citizenship, surely there can be tools when people hand in their passports or declare that they are uh,
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this and it is really important. this is also a question of national security and it is clear whether the state of ukraine needs to know about those issues, but once again emphasize that in accordance with our national legislation in the field of citizenship, citizens of ukraine in communication with the state of ukraine are accepted exclusively as citizens of ukraine, regardless of what other citizenship they have, and since citizenship is not in the occupied territories, we do not recognize that these people have problems in further communication with the state of ukraine, what tools will the state offer that these passports it seems to me that it is already so fundamental to take it away, but it is important to adhere to the general approach that we do not recognize these citizenships, even so, we cannot allow punishment for obtaining it. thank you very much for the clarification . on the criminalization of obtaining a russian passport for state officials, city-level officials, which is already
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at the level of the weather bill to the cabinet of ministers well, we continue the same news, together we are strong the armed forces of ukraine need drones, make your contribution scan the qr-code unconquered cities of ukraine kryvyi rih the iron heart of ukraine and the longest city in europe its man-made landscapes attract guests and industrial tourism is actively developing in the city kryvyi rih lands were part of the zaporizhia army, the city housed the central governing body of kish zaporizhia sich during the archaeological excavations in balka, the ukrainian archaeologist oleksandr pol discovered the remains of smelting furnaces, which indicate that the
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scythians were engaged in metallurgy here during the years of the nazi occupation. the head of the city administration, serhiy sherstyuk, led the popular resistance and introduced the official use of the ukrainian language and anthem. ukraine and glory and will are not dead yet, because even under enemy fire , the people of kryvyi rih fearlessly work, help and defend independence, because in addition to an iron heart , they also have the steel cossack character kryvyi rih is unconquered, every stitch a symbol of the indomitability and revival of ukraine, we will heal our wounds, we will decorate the scars with flowers, the ukrainian destiny will bloom again like poppies in the field, ukraine will embroider the renaissance
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strong unbreakable september 17 is the day kherson ukraine is indomitable on september 17, the country will celebrate the day of the rescuer from the beginning of the great war . the employees of the state emergency service are among the first to arrive at the sites of bombings and rocket attacks. marets, a rescuer from the buchan district of the state emergency service of ukraine in the kyiv region, whom the president awarded with the order for courage of the third degree, mr. ivan , i congratulate you. good day, tell us what you are for received the order together with the personnel of the state emergency service , the rescuers went on rescue operations
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to retrieve people from zavali and, of course, on the so -called green corridors, unfortunately, they did not agree, but they fulfilled their duty, the witness was shot, hundreds of our civilians were taken out of the occupied territory, the ukrainians worked according to your with a car nearby, he carried out his activities here on the territory of the pochan district, that is, you had to see the rubble that we all saw on the footage that flew around the world of this house in the middle destroyed by a bomb yes yes unfortunately this is the most significant settlement, one of the largest in the kyiv region, of course borodyanka got a lot of it and the central beehive and of course multi-corgivki for the entire residential sector was actually destroyed and even then it is not very simple , objectively speaking, well, it increased in such
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extreme challenges, of course, before that we were engaged in rescuing people and extinguishing fires for more, and here a military conflict, of course, we had to adapt to the conditions of this shadow and carry out those operational operations the tasks set before us by denys of the state emergency service. and what is fundamental is that houses explode more often and such emergency situations occur technologically, it is different to dismantle rubble, for example, after a gas explosion and after an aerial bomb, explosions in gas and these were isolated cases, and here the scale of planning against the first victims after airdrops were carried out, the first victims and these terrible pictures that we saw with our own eyes and these children and adults after the first e-e missile the shelling of populated areas is a very big
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job and of course it required a slightly different vision and approach to this work. well, we have fulfilled all the conditions. well, plus we take into account the fact that the demining of hundreds of populated roads were, unfortunately , mined and detonated shells and ammunition. -e is actually everywhere in each of its sectors how do you come to your senses after taking off your uniform and returning home because what you see we see in the photos and it has a terrible impact on you you see it with your own eyes pain, death, suffering and how to come to your senses, uh , they have already adapted and got used to it, and there was no time to think and get used to it, as they say, the situation acted as they could, of course, and they got used to it. and what is the most difficult thing for you in work now almost in such
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shelling, thank god, there are no points to say about it, in particular, this is the buchanska district, but there is a certain security, and preventive work is being carried out. well, still now, we are also engaged in preventive work, as well as the preparation of materials or the status of the application of citizens about the destroyed houses, possessions, residences of citizens, we are currently working on documenting all these effects of fires and this air donation from these others, we will say destruction. and that preventive work involves mass clarification of work with citizens regarding counter-exchange hazards because there is a large number of territories that have not yet been demined and a large number of requests from citizens about finding this or that explosive device and people listen, you see the result of your preventive work this is how it can be reflected in this e-e characteristics of the numbers, how much e-e per day or per week e-e
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the territory is cleared and how much is demined for the most part and what number of units of hundreds of units of ammunition are hit by our primary units, how many more percent of the kyiv region of your buchan district so let's talk about the buchan district, how much has not been demined there yet, how much more work do you have to do on this, it will take more than a year to completely clear the entire area, if there are still cases of finding dangerous finds and recovery after the second world war, imagine how much the territory of the kyiv region is now littered with these explosive devices and fragments of ammunition, if we say objects of critical infrastructure - this includes public buildings, educational facilities, engineering networks, communications, we have gas mains and electricity transmission to this everything has been destroyed, the roads to populated areas, the residential sector has been freed from these dangerous explosive objects , and there are still fields and forests
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, we still have not passed by technicians because the amount of work and the area is very large, listen to you, not only is it difficult, it is also very dangerous, there was no desire to change it during these six months, no, no, from the first day . colleagues, none of them left their duties, did not betray our country, all of them worked as one team hand in hand and fulfilled the tasks set before us today, and what motivates you further against this work, you know the profession lifeguard is the most humane profession in the world and i am sure that all people who signed a contract and are in the service of the state emergency service work from the bottom of their hearts and this is all inside the supersoul and for which material benefit this good we work for this vocation and this is the duty to save people and from
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this point of view and how many years more than 15 years more than 15 years and still not tired of this no, not tired and ready to fulfill the world well, but at least i want a vacation, it is possible and i want to see my relatives, but now there are a number of certain tasks which ones need urgent implementation and they will spend their vacation after the end of the war, i would have liked it sooner victory to us, our armed forces, to all the ukrainian people, we have won and the rescuers can finally relax at least a little, at least for a few weeks, spend time with their relatives, thank you very much for that that you joined us but above all for your difficult and dangerous work, thanks to it, people survive and we can feel safer ivan marets ivan marets rescuer of the buchan district of the state emergency service of ukraine in
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of the kyiv region was with us and the president awarded him with the order of courage of the third degree mr. ivan dismantled the borodyantsi works now in the buchansk district and continues to inform people about the danger of mines carrying out his own demining work together with his colleagues in a word makes life much safer than the one the russians brought here to the territory of kyiv oblast well, we are moving on, the only news, together we are strong, the armed forces need drones, make your contribution, scan the qr-code, the defeated cities ukraine is the cossack city of izyum, where one of the oldest buildings of the slobozhanshchyna is located. the transfiguration cathedral was the center of the famous izyum regiment. the
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place did not survive the first famine thanks to the active fight against pro-regimes in the second world war . the city twice found itself in the center of fierce battles today. today, izyum is again in the line of fire. ready to stand for victory raisin undefeated after the de-occupation of the kharkiv region of the permitted settlements, ukrainian volunteers immediately arrived and among the first was dad kepler, who will now join us. congratulations dad hello, where are you now, i understand that you are somewhere in the fields, somewhere still there in the kharkiv region, we had a difficult time
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setting up the connection because it is still not there, we are really somewhere in the fields, uh, i can't tell you where we are now, we still have to get out of here because there is almost no road in those villages, here they will be completely destroyed, mined with unexploded shells, poor equipment, burnt out, and well, it is not very easy here, what did you see there, where did you manage to get there, where were you, what people say, people say today, one woman just cried and said what it is the camp was six months ago, we were in izyum , we were in balaclavas, there were uh villages further uh, we were in villages where they stood constantly and were in villages that they just had nightmares, there are villages that were completely destroyed
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well, like there is nothing there at all there are no houses, huts, everything has been destroyed. and the people are in shock, in shock, as they say in western ukraine, eh, they are very confused, they are very afraid that now they will come again . they do not understand what they should do, eh. the carriage breaks down, everyone is constantly crying eh in their hands are shaking and again the main requests for medication are painkillers, sedatives and hypnotics. now he is saying that izyum is the second buch or even two buchs. you traveled around kyiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, all the de-occupied territories, and what you are seeing now in kharkiv oblast is happening in some way compared to what opened up
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after the de-occupation of central northern ukraine, do you know this a little or history, different moods inside , because for the past six months they fed the story that now ukraine will come and shoot you all because of that that you remained under occupation and they are very scared, well, the story that we heard, i just, well, i don't think that i can talk about everything, but so again there was torture in the basements and abuse of people, they were forced to work for in izyum, we were told that food costs four cans of stew a week, uh, they were forced to dig out the rubble, they were threatened, like if you don't go to work there, we'll
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take your child, your mother, or we'll put you in a basement. well, in short, there's just some kind of horror there. as far as i understand there there is also a full informational one the isolation was like that, people did not understand what was happening in ukraine at all, where is the front line now and whether the ukrainian flag will ever return to their population points, they were generally such villages there that neither the awakened ones had heard of irpin, nor of gostomel, nor pro-azovstal, nor of anything like that, they do you know what the filtration camps that russia arranged are, and it was terrible, there were people who sometimes got in touch, but they also tried to call someone, but they hid because they were afraid that they would simply be turned in and them people will come to digest all this
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information that has fallen on them, how they are in contact with it in general, and aware of what is happening in ukraine and what happened to him, i don't know. imagine what you say to a person who just lived for six months in complete fear in a vacuum of e- well, they are almost completely isolated, intimidated by weapons and violence for six months. they are just very scared. they are all scared, but of course we met people who were happy when they saw us, who cried in those distant villages and said, we believed until the last that ukraine will come, and there were those who did not believe, uh, but they all really need environmental help . i don't know how to work with this, but we really need to
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work. they need to be reassured and told that everything will be fine, because everything will be fine if we have already talked about the needs, what are the main needs of the people in the de-occupied territories and how can they be helped? well, it depends on the distance from the city , because now they have already started bringing a lot of humanitarian aid to izyum and various such things, but there is no light in them very necessary generators are very needed generators some lights and batteries and there are villages in which we need food and medicine , but we take medicine to very distant villages well, today we were in a village where there are only two houses and that's all the others have left well, in different ways, there are a lot of
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upset people and very a lot left and two houses of people and they stayed, we reached them yesterday and today we brought them the medicine they asked for, do you have enough of the medicine that people need and that you distribute there simply on an industrial scale, well, now we just go to replenish supplies in kyiv because everything depends very much on the village, it's like bud in the regions there are such very, very far villages where the panthers just don't get there because it's not always even possible to get there and that's why there are such villages where just cars of medicine follow a few hours, and there are such villages where no, for now we have enough, but if someone wants to donate,
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we will be grateful. oh my god, who said that they have no faith, but no i don't want to shut up about us. the name of the project is literally on the facebook page, there are details or our stork also has details on facebook. find it. so for now. please repeat the name of the project again, because at this very moment the sound of the project disappeared . birds, birds and such. natalya lelyukh , we are posting the details of the fund where you can donate. thank you for your work, for the fact that you were one of the first, together with natalya lelyukh and other volunteers, to come to the de-occupied territories, and
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it seems to me that you are convincing people with your work what a victory for ukraine. thank you and the volunteer volunteer on facebook, you can find her and also on instagram there is nataliya lelyukh and they have the details where you can send 5-10 uah. how many large sums do you have, it is not necessary to help people who have now been liberated from the occupation and need just everything in order to be able to live normally, well, we continue the only news together, we are strong, the armed forces need drones, make your contribution, scan the qr-code, this is a sports hall where ukrainian athletes could train, but since when russia has started a full-scale war in ukraine. there is silence here. russian and belarusian athletes are silent. they pretend as if nothing happened and with their silence support the murder of destruction and
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this brutal war. and with a call for a boycott of russian and belarusian athletes, post them on social networks with the hashtags of the company, support ukraine on the sports front, silence kills with support ministry of youth and sports of ukraine every monday in marathon, the only news is that we help to find the missing.
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