or something like that but it's good that we ended on this page. our history, which you need to know about and it stands, is a vivid illustration of the short, not very pleasant past that was in our country.

good afternoon, we continue our broadcast on espresso. hanna valevska watched it with a very interesting interview oleg sentsov about life about the war about art well , about the cinema i recommend it to everyone who has not yet seen this movie rhinoceros please watch it, it is interesting how oleg said that ukrainians have already turned the page of their 90s and in russia the 90s are balls that they still remain for this country and for this society, unfortunately. good evening. this is how it continues to be cultivated and all the values ​​are relevant to the 90s, too. well, oleg sentsov said about bucha, about irpini and these population points have now become known to the whole world, but now also raisin kharkiv region about the mass murders and crimes of russia in the liberated e-e territories of kharkiv region, let's talk next oleksandra

romantsova with us human rights defender and executive director of the center of civil p oleksandro congratulations glory to ukraine glory to heroes in izyum found a mass burial of people, it is several hundred people who probably died from shelling, it is reported that there are also women and children, and we understand that this is only the first place of burials, where exhumations are now being carried out, and there are a few more of them in bucha-mariupol , unfortunately raisin is that of the president of russia leaves death everywhere and must be responsible for it, the world must hold russia to real responsibility for this war, we will do everything for this, said volodymyr zelenskyi well, one of the examples, one of the examples is this mass burial, where are you found about 450 murdered ukrainians, and how do you assess the scale of this crime, can it exceed in number even bucha irpin, and how can we

bring it to justice? well, this is not a contest at all. in all international platforms and in the osce and in the council of europe and in the un that this is the policy of introducing war on the part of the russian federation and now in ukraine it is visible in every even the smallest town of bucha - this is the largest city that was freed from occupation, which was under occupation for a long time, and therefore 500 out of more than 500 m were killed, and accordingly, if we are talking about small and smaller towns, depending on how much of the population there was under occupation, the proportion is the same, if there were 600 people left, then there would be 20 if there were several thousand killed, then in izyum we find 440 dead and most

likely this is not the last burial, for example, in the villages of kyiv, people were also found buried in the immediate yards of houses because there is such a war crime not only to kill a person that, judging by everything from the pathologist, we are starting to give reports about what kind of wounding is actually in these mass graves, there are people with er beasts er on their hands with tops even on among them are children, and this means that the dead are not due to some natural situations, there is even a lack of food, and people are killed, but it is a war crime, such as bringing to death, that is, when they were not even killed, but, for example, they did not give the opportunity to get food, water, or the necessary medicine, etc.

we know examples, including those in kyiv, chernihiv, sumy, and kharkiv regions, which were previously liberated territories, so everything continues here. unfortunately, all the information campaign that we conduct for the international community does not stop and does not change the manner of waging war for the russian army, russia on september 16, it officially ceased to be a member country of the european convention on human rights, and six months have passed since russia was expelled for treason against europe in connection with a full-scale invasion of ukraine and in the press release of the european court of human rights it is said that espel canceled the position of judge from russia and since the beginning of the 22nd year, mykhailo lobov, there are about 17,000 complaints against russia in this court, among them the lawsuits were filed precisely in connection with the invasion of ukraine what is the prospect of these lawsuits now? and this is a very valid question. we were literally three days

ago in strasbourg. we discussed this with the department of case management. this is a unique situation. is the court itself must create a procedure for what will happen to these cases, there are options, including the appointment of other judges from the side of ukraine, which must comply with this procedure, in which there is no state as a member of the council of europe. are currently under consideration, and among them there are 10 lawsuits of ukraine against russia, as a state, that is, between state cases, but also a bunch of lawsuits by ukrainian citizens who sued against the russian federation. there are courts in which proceedings have already begun and russia's life if he leaves this court from this proceeding, then he will simply

stop these cases, but it seems to me that the council of europe already has an understanding that all these cases and those related to events that took place before september 16. they must be considered and everyone is watching that, well, everyone hopes that all these cases will be the reason, first of all, for the determination of reparations and the determination, because european bodies such as the council of europe and the european court of human rights, are, first of all, recognition for the whole world that this was a crime and that this crime took the eyes exactly is the russian federation in violation of human rights important for us, including that in the future and because the european union, for example, the leader of sanctions against the russian federation could then , based on this decision, for example, distribute reparations from those funds that were confiscated from

oligarchs or in russian directly, property, property abroad, yes, that is, for us, these cases must, first of all, definitely have some sort of decision, the assessment of such a respected organization that determines whether there was a violation of human rights or not, and secondly, in in the future, this is the basis for the creation of new mechanisms, first of all, reparations and the restoration of the rights of victims or their families, as of yesterday, russia officially ceased to be a member of the european convention on human rights last six months, more than six months from the moment of russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine, what will change now for russian citizens, as well as for ukrainian citizens, for example, who could appeal to this european convention on human rights in lawsuits against the russian military , against the russian authorities, against russian society

please change the events that took place before september 16, that is, complaints against the russian federation will be accepted by citizens of other countries and citizens of the russian federation, unfortunately, the court will not accept anything. what happened after september 16, although the russian federation claims that it still on march 15, they left the council of europe, and even this period until september 16 does not apply to it, and what seems to be the biggest influence is precisely because the russian federation is no longer represented in the committee of ministers of foreign affairs, this is the main the political body of the council of europe. most likely, there will not be this pressure on the russian federation to actually implement the decisions that already exist, and the russian federation has left behind

a rather large list of unfulfilled decisions, including payments. i mean to the citizens of ukraine, but also to any other person who has suffered a violation of human rights on the territory of the russian federation by the russian state, and this will probably be most noticeable that in this case, the russian the federation is at its own discretion whether to comply or not to comply, most likely it will not comply, but now in this case we are looking more at these cases how about the decision of the community with which you can talk that is, the european union there are observer countries to the council of europe directly e- those who look at these decisions are, for example, canada and japan. that is, they are very important partners for us, and that is why you and i continue to be members of such a civilizational club that, for human rights, the russian federation is a decision in relation to

it is most likely for the future, when several countries on its territory or some other formation will have a democratic government, and not what is happening there now, ms. oleksandra, well, this actually means that european law does not apply at all on the territory of russia right now any citizen there cannot be protected in the event of a lawsuit in european courts. well, they will not end in anything. that's right, because they simply do not recognize these resources. well, first of all, the russian federation made a separate decision of the constitutional the court about what such decisions they want to make or do not want to make, for example, for ukraine, the decision of the european court of human rights must be implemented, and the russian federation has been trying to distance itself from this obligation for a very long time, although this, well, this is something that is not discussed if you are a member of the european conventions on human rights. the russian federation tried to circumvent these

rules regarding the protection of russian citizens . after september 16, a russian citizen can no longer complain to the european court of of human rights to their own state and taking into account that in fact russia has always been the leader in the number of lawsuits in terms of population, and we are familiar, for example, with lawyers who filed the first cases against the russian federation, and this is the case of russia against kalashnikov kalashnikov against russia a very symbolic surname, but less so. that is, these are people who have tried to change something in the russian federation since the 90s, from the moment when the russian federation entered the council of europe to change something, but unfortunately we see that without systemic oleksandra romantsova is in touch with us, but there are certain problems with the connection, the human rights activist, the executive

director of the center for civil liberties, about civil liberties or the lack of them for russians , now we say finish, please, yes, i wanted to say that once again uh, this is uh, this is impossible if society itself does not support the principles and values ​​of democracy, and democracy says that citizens are responsible for their state, and if the state starts a war on their behalf or commits its own violation of human rights, then responsibility citizens in ukraine bear it, we understand it well and every citizen now bears his share of responsibility, protects his state, and in the russian federation, as a result, psychologists will study this, of course, for another century, probably, but he refuses this responsibility. and when they even well, they would like to ask for the help of some european institutions, then the states can not come to russia and create a fair

court or a democratic society there, this can only be done by the society of the russian federation itself, so well, let's hope that if ever the population of this territory is still in some form in perhaps in a different configuration of the state, hmm, they will do it, but it is clearly not now, and for us, i will repeat once again, it is more interesting now to stop the aggression and restore the possibility of our democratic society rather than being concerned with the fact that russian citizens have deprived themselves of another means of protection, mrs. oleksandr, and purely formally, russia is the russians, now every russian is responsible for crimes in ukraine, for murder, here it is necessary remember that in their constitution, as in the constitution of most democratic countries, it is written that power belongs to the people, that is, the people are responsible for what the government does, in particular, responsibility is not delegated even when you have elected deputies

, the responsibility for your life for the governance of your country remains with you, it works everywhere absolutely , and that is why we are talking about the fact that, well, there is even such a commitment to rebellion if someone on your behalf called himself the president and is not engaged in the development of your country, aggression, and here it is of course, we are now deeply involved in legal discourses , but in fact it works like this if you refuse to govern your country and someone on your behalf makes an installation under the name of the russian federation. well, first of all, it is your responsibility to return the exercise of your power, as your constitution says, power regardless speaking, voiced on our broadcast by mr. oleksandrov, they are profound, but i would really like every russian to understand them in the end oleksandr romantsova thank you human rights defender executive the director of civil liberties for the participation of the military analyst at the end of this hour, this is something

i wanted to add an informational message, the military kupyansk was completely liberated , the cracking special unit reported this to the special unit, krakow reported on the complete liberation of the city of kupyansk, it was mostly liberated, but up to the siverskyi river donetsk is now freed and the second part from the russian occupiers. well, sensornet posted the corresponding video. luhansk has been freed, but you can’t show it there because there were simply a huge pile of pipes of the russian invaders, a pile - kupyansk was completely liberated as a result of coordinated actions by the kraken unit, the oskol river was successfully crossed. continues on the left bank of the splinter, we are moving on, says the message of the ukrainian fighters , oleg katkov is already with us, an expert on brushes express olezhe, we congratulate you on the continuation of the

counteroffensive, this is exactly what the message about kupyansk means. thank you. for example, its first stage, one up, the confidence of many was that it would reach the border of the river flat , that is, just in the yard equal to the city of kupyansk, that our units had already forced that there is video confirmation of this, this means that the operation continues and has a transition to the second phase, and here it is simply important to understand and replay in your head what is happening. well, not from the side of the armed forces of ukraine. especially since the ministry of defense asks not to tell additional things, but to look at your situation . because if you take everything that

is on the left bank of the oskil river, then there are other water obstacles. that is, there is first the stallion river, then the krasna river, and then aidar and each of these water obstacles in fact is a logical, logical next echelon of the rashist defense. therefore, it is simply due to the fact that in one turn it is a natural element for the construction of any defense, and the second aspect that we must take into account in the actions of the rashists is logistics, that is, in fact we must look at the second map at the same time, we are building obstacles now drawn on the screen, and secondly look at the road map at the same time, i.e. the map, then the communication, because it is logistics that plays the most important role during the construction of any military operations, and there we will see that the key in my opinion, such cities as svatove and

starobilsk can be the hubs of the russian federation. the fact is that these two places are located at the intersection of highways that go from the north and from luhansk and from russia in the east, there is a separate railway branch that goes to starobilsk , that is, there is such an intersection of logistics routes, there are water obstacles, and in view of this, we can take into account, well, draw the following conclusion that they are trying to build three separate railways there the line of defense against the counteroffensive of our troops, and here it is only a matter of time. it must be taken into account that a huge amount of equipment there is simply beyond verification, when there is simply a photo, that is, the promised did not just capture, but also photographed this equipment, there we are talking about the capture of hundreds of units. under a hundred tanks only and these units that were defending tried to defend

things and the captured raisin were generally operating in this triangle from balaklei kupyan raisin, then they are all withdrawn and now without equipment they are trying somehow, in order to gain a foothold, large units are transferred to them, and all this happens. well, the main aspect of these actions is that there is time, that is, because there will be time for the rashists to build all these defense lines, which they will talk about on foot if they leave all the equipment and so no, they, er, well , here they throw, for example, a tank and sit on some mural there, and i was already on it, they ran away. that is , the fact is that tanks simply don’t have a washing machine, that’s why they usually throw it, and in this video, what posted by censor.no er kupyanska i don't know now the editors are looking at whether

it is possible to show it at all there are a bunch of russian bodies they ran away extraordinary gazelles well, who is standing gazelka and a bunch of shot russians who tried to nail the nails in this newspaper well, we will not show exotic considerations, that's where whole piles are correct about military equipment, especially about such a tracked one such as i have, for example, there are tanks, self-propelled artillery installations, then you must understand that it will always be the first one for our soldiers, that is, when our soldiers see some tank there, which an enemy that moves, he will usually be number one in this league and the resolute ones understand that, and well, it’s just that when they run away, they don’t try to run away with military equipment . well, it is possible simply

to disguise even as a civilian population well , as we can see, it even comes to such a p e what do you know about this contract and how much this weapon can reach us when it arrives, we are talking about other 155 and this is a german development from kvn, in fact, it is extremely interesting because it is the latest german development in terms of artillery, it uses a 155-millimeter caliber 52 caliber barrel length i.e. well, the formal artillery unit is from the well-known glory of the pzk-2000, but with even greater mechanization of automation, in general, the entire crew of this sava is only two people, that is, the driver and the commander, and those two people

are controlled by a powerful system that has long-range firing is more than 40 km ago with conventional active projectiles and more than 50 if we are talking about excalibur and the only aspect is that sia is the newest, it is not in service even in germany, it is not in any country in the world. it is a completely new development and therefore deadlines its execution of this contract, they are somewhere at the level of 2025 , only the beginning of the supply of these machines and hm . the basis of the armed forces of ukraine in the future, and even their number, well, at the beginning, it is insignificant, it will still increase later. and in fact, here we should start talking about the fact that further production of this machine, for example, was not only in

germany, but we somehow took it upon ourselves and localized it well, its production of some components for it, that is, well, this is a long-term contract, and in fact there is still no accurate information that it has been signed, that is, again, so far there is only and unconfirmed information from german sources about what is the contract well, the contract was given by the german government gave the green light to sign this contract regarding arms contracts the ukrainian side has changed its tactics in the negotiations in the usa regarding the acquisition of f16 zrk priot fighters and drones of ukraine it hopes to conclude long-term contracts for their supply this is reported the american edition of the policy with reference to sources in the ukrainian government, the pentagon , the us defense industry. ryder announced that the first two sams batteries will be transferred to ukraine. during the next two

months, he said this at a briefing on whether the supply of anti-aircraft missile systems will increase after the recent strikes. well, in general, the beginning of russia's strikes on civilian infrastructure in kharkiv . it was in kryvyi rih, poltava region in kremenchuk, in particular, i would like to hope so, but again, everything rests on the insufficient number of these systems in general in the world , that is, for example, here is a great example of samsung, which is excluded from anti-aircraft defense . that is, it can intercept only cruise missiles from missiles. at the same time, for example, on kryvyi rih , the strike was, according to various information, either x22 or e-e daggers, that is, for example, it will definitely not be able to intercept a dagger on the spot itself, for this it is necessary specialized anti-missile complex e-e the fact is that in general there is simply a lack of such special anti-aircraft missile systems e-e and

well, for example, the situation of his patriot is known that even for the us army e-e there are not enough petriv complexes the term of their production is measured in years and is already written down for 10 years ahead, and simply, in my opinion, we can only tell our allies about what, for example, paris or berlin or any other european capital destroys, there are no missile strikes on it, and we must go. not by hand, and it will be ours there until the end, and ask, for example, for rent, that is, temporarily, that is, for a while, until victory, maybe it will be somehow easier because the countries will not be for us to make or give away from myself and to give as a gift so, i also wanted you to comment on the issue of nuclear weapons the day before president projekteiden gave an interview to the cbs channel and said he commented on the possibility

of russia using nuclear weapons, the task of a nuclear strike, he said the following, he actually addressed the russians and said don't do it don't do it don't do it, they will remove the grimace of the war and change it to something that has not happened since the second world war, said biden, he did not specify the specific steps that the american side will apply in response, but i note that the consequences for russia definitely there will be consequences they putin and his regime will become the biggest with weapons in the world than ever and depending on the scale of what they do will determine the answer did biden say or is that the answer well when the president of the united states says three times do n't do don't do don't do it well, this leads to the opinion that such a probability is quite real right now, or has the probability of using tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine increased in your opinion, it is quite difficult to actually talk about the probability and that is, it is not zero, it is not

it was zero since february 24, in principle, uh, the important aspect here is that if this happens and the west, well , in general, the civilized world will not give a full-fledged worthy answer to this, how are they opening up about pandora's box, there is a large number of countries in the world that actually have tactical nuclear weapons which refers to the so-called countries that have certain territorial claims to each other and the use of tactical even tactical nuclear weapons without a categorical response from the world. well, it simply opens a direct path for them. you can use it, nothing will happen to you and this is just a direct step towards the destruction of humanity because it will simply lead to a nuclear war and you can simply not talk about the existence of humanity as biological organisms because, well, we will choose like dinosaurs , uh, because, well, we all understand the fact that nuclear weapons

, a full-scale nuclear conflict, is just the end of our history. and that is, in principle, why they have been discussing for a long time there, for example, let's strike at snake island, for example, no one lives there, but ukrainians will understand that we can strike it for anything else, in the future, a small town in any ukrainian region, such an option, yes , i’m sorry. right away, according to which variable. i’ll just remind you that there are literally a few kilometers to the border with a nato country. well, this is an attacking nato country, the use of collective security, the beginning of the third world, the end of humanity what is left for us is that there in washington, it is unclear, they will give us these attacks, what are they called, correct or not, correct me, because well, it seems that there will be no such information, there is an alternative where to get such long-range missiles missile complexes, yes, relative to such, that is,

here again, again, it appears that it is possible that it was brought to the excavation, that is , there is no solution on the table yet, that is, we have already been there for quite a long time, that is, if we still have otaka, it is not in time at the same time, there really is a certain alternative in the world, for example, turkey has a hum complex for export, which has, well, even better characteristics, a range of approximately 300 km. it has twice the power of the warhead, but here the question is that again the purchase and transfer of complexes of this class is more of a political decision and again a question of availability, for example, we understand that there are a lot of atakams, that is, in the usa, and we are talking about hundreds of these missiles , and the transfer even there of 25% of high stocks well, it will not create critical problems for the defense capability of the usa, but at the same time, for example if we order a new one even after going through all the political aspects of this issue, we will wait for you