the use of artillery is shelling of peaceful cities on the part of the russian army, this is but what the propagandists say is not so much, they did not take it and now ukraine is already being attacked by the russian propagandists, the collaborators and the representatives of russia themselves do not believe, including in donetsk after the explosion in in luhansk, when the so-called prosecutor died, the so-called lnr deputy after everything that is happening in donetsk, yesterday there were crazy queues at gas stations, eh, in the evening, a public queue at the uspenka checkpoint on the way to russia, that is, they are in panics are running unofficially well, they did not convey that the so- called ministry of internal affairs of the dpr received an order to send families to russia and they themselves are currently monitoring law and order, but be ready at any moment to evacuate everyone who is one way or another connected to russia. all collaborators or relatives are running. they believe

their own propaganda, they are running for life in donetsk, so i am afraid that when representatives of the sbu come there, they will not open the e-mail, that is, we can not rule out such a development of events that on the part of russia. if they all escape, then the question arises who will defend the positions there? is it somehow possible to do something there? it is possible to fulfill the duties. well, it is possible that it is a war and we cannot predict it here, but i think that no, it simply will not be, they dug in well, russia if it is necessary to ensure uh-uh, we simply did not run away, we call ourselves civilian collaborators, that is, armies live their lives in civilian life, that is why we run, the

administration, family members, that is, that’s all, yes , but i myself. when it became difficult for me to put myself in the place of a collaborator but i will try and not in the place of a russian military man, even a non-russian soldier, i sit and run to the left, they live on the right, they run, they tell me that these have already crossed the border and these are going to the front well, i am sitting in the middle, then i will also want to run away, you know, it was not like that no and even if they tell me to go to war, i will say hello, i am not, i don’t want to go to my death, he wings me for a hole in my forehead, he will make me not want to mobilize, then mr. kirill, the situation is very fragile, it is not just a delay, there is a certain technical yes, there are technical problems with the connection, you still see

it in the kharkiv region, and where mr. kyrylov is, we don't know, somewhere on the front line, the conditions with the connection are also bad, the russian one has already left, and the ukrainian one has not yet arrived, i think that there was such a hole for one - two days when it is not known which russian and ukrainian networks are working, which russian ones have left, which ukrainian ones have come and whether they can, er, in donetsk region, luhansk region, dynamo was difficult and it is very difficult, after all, four liberated settlements will be obtained little by little, it is cool that the enemy i didn't know where, what do we know that they escaped from four settlements, i don't think it will happen quickly. i have an internal suspicion that the general staff of ukraine itself did not expect what happened to mykhailo

kharkiv . officers, unlike the russian ones, that is, if i understand the soviet union correctly, they are fighting against the soviet union, that until the kremlin gives an order , we are not doing anything, we may have to retreat maybe we need to, i mean if we are russians yes , we need to, because the main goal is to save the army, if the army is not there, the war has been lost, it means that we have to retreat sometimes while keeping the troops, if you ask questions from the general staff to your general, the general goes there, that there, that of the general staff, he is the headquarters to this to the kremlin in kremenets says show them at least a map, where they are, where they are , where they are, everything is fine. you don’t worry. yes, it’s simple

, and then it goes back through this chain, and it’s definitely all part of the composition. i told some program. the story of the 41st year of the retreat 480,000 were captured, led by general kirpanos, because they wrote constantly to the kremlin to stalin hello, we are now finding that they will surround and kill everyone and he says that we will really stand to the end, comrades, he got half a million people, so i i think in kharkiv oblast, i had the impression that i heard from the guys who were in the battle at the time that we are going, but there is no one. well, we continue to go again, there is no one. yes, they ran away and left the weapons, as now, you know the joke. it has been walking around social networks for several weeks . the supplier of arms in ukraine is the russian federation right now. well, they are fleeing and leaving behind

very expensive weapons, ammunition, and ok. now we can already transform to kherson oblast , yes, from donetsk oblast. unfortunately, today did not work out very well, but we will continue to talk, oh, oh, oh, i feel it where the russian soldier's leg was, there is such a mess there, there is no communication, there is no food, there is no water, only corpses are left behind, people leave litters, it's good that i still don't care, that's great, you keep the boss with us, the adviser of the city mayor kherson today is the day of the city, with which we congratulate you. thank you. we wish that kherson will return to ukraine as soon as possible and that our flag will be returned to kherson. the most important thing is that the people of kherson oblast should be able

to live a normal, peaceful life freely. thank you. i also congratulate you. i congratulate everyone . residents residents who are currently under heavy occupation in the city of kherson residents who left kherson and are outside the borders of kherson i am sure that in the near future kherson will return to its normal course life within the framework of the state of ukraine and next year we will celebrate city day already in a narrow field of kherson people who today are scattered around the world in ukraine and tolerate the occupiers in the very place, mr. roman, what is the situation around the city and in the city itself in that you can say almost pay attention to what is being said, the situation around the city and

where the battles are taking place, our armed forces are advancing towards kherson, there are certain tactical successes in specific directions, the enemy is responding, it is difficult for aviation and artillery, but our armed forces are advancing in the direction of kherson, in the direction of the liberation of kherson oblast, yesterday, we all saw, let’s say, the defeat of the main heart there, i don’t know lugov , it’s more correct to call the occupiers in the city of kherson that way, and, well, that’s another one let's put it this way, proof of the active work of our armed forces against the occupation of the city, including why it's hot everywhere, the people of kherson are waiting for the liberators and, uh, they positively perceive the events that are happening around kherson, although it is quite dangerous and scary

. roman, there are attempts, as far as i understand there there is some some encirclement of the russian troops there is difficult for them, those in the russian troops are trying to get something out , somehow change something, or they have no chance anymore, they have already despaired of the possibility if there are no such bridges, such bridges, such bridges , the crossing options are very narrow, these options are simply reduced, there are almost none what is happening on the military side? what are the russians, what are the russian invaders allowing themselves? are they thinking about the presence of the occupying forces, which pushes the armed forces of the russian federation to active actions and the crossing of equipment to the right bank? they are trying to continue, they are setting up steamboat

crossings, which from time to time affect the harvest of our armed forces. so, i think there is a position of the military themselves on the battlefield, who are demoralized and not isolated cases, and as the general staff has already officially confirmed that they want to surrender, local residents of kherson region and kherson , in particular, reports on not isolated cases of e-e desertion, changing into civilian clothes e deserters from among the military of the russian federation and e advancing them towards e crimea, they even note that the demand for cheap cars has increased i will buy, well, let's say a few of the occupiers throw away their money, buy cars and flee to the russian federation, we know that, well, they are squeezing and stole a lot of money, they invested

funds in the very place of kherson, i think in order to cross over. and of course er, the main feature that distinguishes the russian army all over the world is looting, it is increasing, and this indicates that stocking up on toilets, er, well, the orcs are planning to leave our land, well, on the other hand, you know how i was here, there was one toilet here, i was far away not ran away with toilets. it seems to me that you are retreating than you are without a toilet in ordinary boats. it is such a winter to go with toilets and retreat without anything. well, returning with a defeat is definitely uh, it is shameful to go home, but there is a laptop or a tv or underwear uh, used for the wife, it will decorate at least, well, all the negatives, if you live, the occupier is already

right at home in the very mood in kherson itself, and we remember how the mood changed. first, they passed there in march, all of us kherson people left the protest forever, and then this continued in april, and then it means that there will be referendums, everyone will vote as one for friends of russia, what are the moods of the kherson people now, and well, we understand what these collaborators and these beautiful russian soldiers who have been suffering defeat after defeat lately. well, yesterday, everyone was social network e-e channels and therefore through a number of telegram channels the story of one of the main collaborators of strymuusov who is crying in e-e-e quick help flew in. and this despair and fear on the face is a reflection of their

moods, which are really present among the collaborators today and after yesterday's attack, as informed by concerned residents of kherson, chaos and panic among those who signed up to be collaborators and traitors to ukraine, they sense and understand that they will have to pay for their betrayal. the collaborators of the gauleiter themselves were there, and the military and the administration were holding a meeting of representatives of the collaborators, well, in fact, from the entire region of the kherson region, at that very moment there was the blow was struck, well, the power of the fact that such a powerful and strong building, er, he er, not completely, let's say, destroyed all the collaborators who were there, but a large part suffered, and well, they

got their payback where they are always hiding, you said that he is in the ambulance help, that is, he is injured, this streamer has a mustache, did something happen to him, what is his state of health, let's say yes, well, at least we can talk about a concussion, uh, and i think that uh, well, psychologically, his psychiatric condition is quite severe, well, on the video was not visible let's say such physical injuries from blood, but uh, if what you can see is a contusion and uh, well, hysteria, it was definitely visible, and of course despair, which says much more even than that and is more positive for us, even if it was just lying on germany has a body and we officially know who exactly struck this pseudo -administration of collaborators, well, we can guess, uh, yes, what are

some forces of good and hatred for the occupiers of good? collaborators and military personnel in in the city of kherson, there are probably no lighters again, and there is less power in the sky, less smoking, less smoking, it may be that saltpeter was sprinkled in packets directly in the building. thank you very much, mr. roman , for all the information about the situation in kherson . with us is the next speaker, yes, mr. ivan stupak, a former employee of the security service of ukraine, an expert of the ukrainian institute of the future consultant, they are to the verkhovna rada on national security today, the communication is not perfect,

but mr. ivan, we will see, i hope so sound until then, good health, mr. ivan. well, let's look into the future, since you are already from the institute of the future. that's exactly what we need to talk about the future. look, i was listening to russian liberal commentators today, and they completely denied the possibility of russia's disintegration , russia's transformation from a nuclear state to a nuclear-free state well, so on and so on and there were some arguments and you have arguments you have some thoughts and understanding and how can you deprive russia of its nuclear status and so the status of permanent member of the un, the un security council, well, there

is a lot more, because legally it is impossible as long as the yellow-blue flag is not over the kremlin, well, if it is a star- striped one, i am ready to look at it calmly, too, but it is difficult to imagine such a tricky question, there is no unanimous answer here or there yes or yes uh no one in any country in the world now has a question as to how it can be solved how to force russia or take away weapons from it or force it to hand over these weapons ah because if you take any russian liberal and the text should be crossed out. that can be seen as an emperor, that is, well, this time the question simply goes

. here is this small corridor. temporary, when is it possible to do this by analogy? when is it possible to take these weapons in russia and hand them over? and for example, well, let’s go without ukraine, not ukraine, for example, to the united states or european countries under some kind of international jurisdiction, but you can take it for now russia will not be strong, but it may provoke a revengeful mood in russia in the future. well, how was it in germany after the first world war? how did they take away from us what right they had? we demand the return of russia's nuclear weapons. to be with the consequences for the future are very serious i p ivan i have a great recipe let's all go to budapest with russia and in budapest as a result of depriving russia of nuclear

weapons we sign a memorandum it's great where we argue not to attack russia everything is fine the experience of ukraine is a great experience only in 360°, also an american, well, the only thing is that the ukrainians would also sit there, let them sit there and whatever they need to go there, the russians will pay reparations not with money, but with oil and gas . years is 100%. okay, so it ’s clear what you saw in samarkand. i’m convinced that you watched samarkand. by the way, people, i really wanted to go all my life. well, i’ve never been to central asia. so i even had an acquaintance there, a german diplomat who and served there i was invited, but now something is

happening there, a change is happening. i would say a change in putin's face. am i wrong or am i not wrong? when i see some completely new putin, unknown to all of us, comparing xi jinping's support to the leader of turkey compared to various other people, would you say? it seems to me that she is that i am in euphoria as a result of the victories in the kharkiv region, i am dragging these victories all the way to samarkand well, that is not what you said about samarkand, let's go when everything is over, we will go together i also want to see i've never been. i'm curious, we're going, we're not praying. and you're absolutely right. indeed, i also saw samarkand. it was such a disaster for russia, for belarusians. first, let's start by seeing the belarusian leader. how was he shown there? the belarusian press

covered his visit. but in fact he behaved apparently like a shadow of putin, but a shadow whose purpose was to break away from his master, he tried to establish contact and literally before the broadcast, he looked at the president of azerbaijan, he was somewhere in the corridor i met and such as how the boys, so the conversation. i have a problem. we need to talk, and the left, yes , let's talk and they quickly run away from him. you see that they are trying to be as different as possible, to distance themselves, and it was interesting to see the photo showing when all these leaders were sitting. they were already sitting there at the table after the official part let's say autopathy is sitting, well, you can see who is sitting the head of this gathering and the president of turkey is sitting next to him the president from azerbaijan and here are putin and lukashenko, they are sitting on a sofa quietly and they are like you know, a child's face is like that, well, an adult

will tell us and we listen to him with pleasure, and i really see that there is a new structure, let's say, china is dragging this entire shanghai organization over itself, although at first this organization was created as the kremlin plus friends plus china now it's china and friends and russia, and now the chinese woman says that he is worried about the situation around ukraine, do you remember putin when he was reading from a notebook or so i say, we understand your concern about ukraine ah, that is, this is what they talked about. what does china have to say to him, that is, he is frustrated. perhaps they are helping the media. that sisin pin asked putin about the results of the military operation. he allegedly mocked putin in this sense. when putin replied that everything is going according to plan, he is not ready to say when he will offer. after that, i will tell you and i will

he really researched the web zanpin asked well , he told us what is there in ukraine and then putin said in ukraine everything is going according to plan and then he just smiled well, well, we know your fees and chinese foreign intelligence well, actually, also works they know the realities and i will tell you this, this intelligence is chinese, of the chinese special service, they are really one of the strongest in the whole world, they have cool or technical intelligence, agency intelligence, listen to many chinese , find in different countries, the students do this , including intelligence functions , they return to their country after three or four years, they tell you how things are arranged in the country or if you have settled there, they constantly sell information, they are in constant contact with each other this is how they say tea natown. it's not just

compact living, it's cool places to exchange information. chinese intelligence collects in new york, there in milan, collects everywhere, that is, about russia - the custom, of course. they know everything, and you already know this. you know the truth, but you are interested in asking. well, tell me, and you just enjoy how a person tries to lie to you and that's all , even though in fact you know that there is a lot of lies there . how do you rate it, because uh, in ukraine, many people get nervous when they hear about the word mobilization or the involvement of troops there from moscow, already in st. petersburg, this is voluntary a-a joining the russian army, i have my own answer, i researched all this there and i know that you should not be afraid, but for you to say about the actual ability to find

additional troops on the front with ukraine only by coercion, only coercive order , money does not work, everyone who wanted money has already left. propaganda no longer works, everyone who was washed by propaganda, they have all already left, or there is a package, so they returned, or who was luckier there he is alive and we still have maybe 10 more from the washing machine from ukraine he returned but they will no longer go, where is the confirmation of these words, we see the use of the criminal element well, you are just showing it and this colony is scale number six a-a there is information that after this visit 150 people agreed to go to fight, but i will tell you yes, there is a video message from, let's say, the criminal world in russian, where they say that taking weapons into the hands of a representative of the criminal world here and there is a carnage. hierarchies, they don't hang around, they don't respect.

that is, we understand that there are not just some people going there, as they are trying to present . for sexual crimes, that is, well, these are not the prisoners who show everything in the movies, he is a cool dude, people go there, broken with a broken fate, who spent 20 years there in prisons and about their physical condition, the ability to fight and the moral condition of the agreement in general well, then, well, i try to restrain myself so as not to divulge, but then what kind of hopes can the russian army have, what can russia offer itself if there are few or no people or they are of super poor quality because i

read that vladivostok is being recruited up to the age of 63, but they officially have two million people who did military service literally last year and the year before last and they are supposedly ready or not, i would say so on paper, there are a lot of them there people, equipment, even more. and why are you driving, shooting is another story, we recently went to the russian public, well, they have such a weakness, well, go and see what is really there, and unpleasant things about ukraine, about our losses. well, let’s not talk about it. this is the part after the war, let’s talk if they write , when they are already communicating at work, and such a majorit is in front of him the history of mobilization, ah, four out of five quilters begin to think of options for how to write mini-mobilizations. they will sell options there or buy a conclusion for themselves there medical board there for a lot of money to sell

the car or er divorce the wife take the children on wait for me even in this way to drop from mobilization that is, the conversations have already gone more like this in fact the invoice he is a quilter by a quilter he is there for there solovyova for russia border of russia zakanstvo for lyalovskie and when it comes to war, i will do everything i can to avoid going to war. thank you. we will finish with this. ivan stupak, former sbu escort, expert of the ukrainian institute, optimistic an expert of ukrainian culture of the future, this is how i would characterize the optimistic future in ukraine. this is how i would like to remind our viewers that at 18:40 we will have an interactive session with mykola in september, you can ask your questions, be active, very active, write interesting questions, comments, your impressions of e-e topics which we are raising today avatars on

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