which reduce the amount of electricity and in general energy significantly weaken the energy security of ukraine and here they are all the energy really as a terrorist country they continue to attack already us it is obvious that objects of critical infrastructure and civilian objects that have nothing to do with the armed forces of ukraine and to the forces of national resistance operating in ukraine, respectively, cities and villages are now preparing for these scenarios , considering various possibilities of passing the heating season, including yes, there are recommendations for condominiums and residents independently where boilers are also purchased, and in our small settlements, in villages and towns, boilers are transferred to renewable sources, these are solid fuel boilers and to wood, which nobody is talking about now, but in the villages it is quite logical that you can also heat communal infrastructure objects and private ones with firewood houses, and here it is now important for the state forestry agency to go to the self-government meeting and somewhat

lower the prices for firewood, at least for communal enterprises, because uh, all the residents of ukraine have already seen how expensive this firewood has become in the beginning of military aggression in ukraine according to this almost 18. from er, our forestry, according to current legislation, is completely owned by the state, we have er, private forests, we have no communal forests . oblasts, and their form of government is quite complicated. and actually, the community in rural settlements and small towns does not have access to these forests, and the prices are formed at auctions, and here the firewood is either sold here, as it is in ukraine there is a little bit of illegal felling, and there is a delegation - it is an auction, and the price of oak eyebrows already today in kyiv region reaches three thousand hryvnias per cubic meter, that is, the price is much more expensive than a cubic meter, and a warehouse. a

warehouse meter is somewhere around 0.6 m³ . that is, it is almost comparable to the price of gas, but in gas heating it is the cheapest e-e in the world and the most efficient , therefore, in order to pass the heating season, people and self-governments need to pay attention not only to gas e-e coal and everything else, including and for firewood, and here the state should go to the extent of making it cheaper for communities and for citizens to purchase firewood so that everyone has at least supplies for a critical day, it is not necessary to heat the whole winter, but to have the opportunity to flood one or two rooms with a stove for that in order not to freeze in cases of such missile attacks or something else on the objects of the communal mm and large heat-generating stations , we can add oleksiy ryabchyna to our broadcast, these are advisers - these are premiers on issues of european and of euro-atlantic integration, adviser to the chairman of the board of naftogaz of ukraine welcome to the studio,

colleagues, viewers, i am glad to be with you, because in europe there are already the same solid fuel boiler houses where you can heat wood, burn straw, peat pallets, how quickly our regions can switch and attract this practice, and in particular financing is possible, it can somehow be attracted from the funds of the european union funds, for example, uh, really, if we say to the last part of your question, the european union fund, then we we are counting on the so-called green recovery, and after we win, there will definitely be a huge amount of e-e investments here, which we should attract, and definitely not on technologies, a century has passed on green energy-efficient ones, including those that do not affect the ecology of the environment and climate , that is, there are only after the victory,

we cannot talk about operational aid now. but now you know that. well, priority needs, that is, we will not attract investments, but we must definitely show our ability to transition to new energy sources for reconstruction. for example, we at oil and gas invest in a bio-boiler plant in one of the destroyed places, there is no heat supply, and we show that we hope that there will be heat there already at the beginning of november, so that there is no other alternative and there will be heat on piles, and we mix the gas and show it such a large place is enough where there are tens of thousands of people living and we are showing such a signal that it is indeed possible to do it and it must be done on do you fully agree that he says what we must to mix gas, to play a lot with hand, not fuel, yes , it is conditionally found there, if it is centralized, burn it, if there is a

network . where they say that they are very much needed by the army for free, and now there is a huge demand for firewood, especially in the front -line regions, where it is simply cut off, well, schools are being cut off. this is exactly what all the raw materials do. and it is necessary for it to transport this sound by the railroad. and of course, prices, prices, prices increase, especially if their constant costs, that is, the laborers who do it, i do n’t know chainsaws, the transport component, shares from the pile, the bottom is transported from this wood yes , that is, there are huge problems plus tecron of trees , firewood is made, yes, and the trunk is used as commercial wood.

the era of the minister of environmental protection is developing auction mechanisms and specifically for the social sphere , that is, the authorities are reacting to this, trying to regulate firewood in a certain way. well, we should switch from gas consumption to ios and reduce er reduce er consumption of fossil fuels in general, that's for sure a trend for which we can get money in the european union, but the key one i think is only this energy efficiency, mr. oleksiy, yes, the authorities have decided not to raise gas and electricity tariffs, but we see what prices in in europe, they have increased significantly, actually, how much are we susceptible to these trends, and if we are still talking about gas for ukrainians, how and at the expense of what will we cover the difference, this is called hidden subsidies, really

, that is, when when the price of sugar in the markets there is uah 60-70. now we sell eight by eight, so these are certain hidden subsidies and from which the economic disparity suffers. - these problems are besides the same when we turn to our foreign partners with certain requests for help in financing gas, if we need reserves, it is clear. and where is the business here? that is, we give you a receipt for 2,500, we buy it, and you give the residents $200. yes, that is, there is none here, if this is not a business. yes, this year we will help, because i understand these negotiations as wars, but there is no business model there, and this is not the case.

there is a blessed land in which there is a second meeting gas deposits, we need to definitely increase gas production , and it is now stable and stable at the beginning of the year, the rate of aggression is somewhere around minus two percent in our country. now we have liberated the territory in kharkiv oblast. we hope that we will connect all these frozen wells that were there now. year and we will stabilize it to zero according to last year. that is, we are finishing gas, we have it, they are possible only in the event that we stop, there will be no opportunity to supply coal at our power station, we will have to to replace coal-fired power generation with gas, then we will definitely need to add volumes, we know where to get them, and negotiations have been held, but once again, you know, the effects of interaction

seem to be the most difficult tasks and very big and big challenges, how to ensure them well, i i won't say about comfort, for example , but about a stable passage through winter - this is very important and we always tell ukrainians that we need to insulate ourselves with blankets or in some other way, mr. volodymyr, i wanted from you ask, look, here is the city of izyum, which has been liberated, 80% of the city has been destroyed, it's not just about power grids, it's about houses that are gone, and there are 10,000 residents, how quickly can the city be restored or prepared for the heating season? it is easier to simply evacuate there from a technical point of view, from my point of view it is cheaper and practical to organize the evacuation, especially first of all, of pensioners, disabled children, uh, it's

just that the state is not necessarily able to build housing for them, but uh, it is capable provide financing to rent housing there in other cities, for example, in the west of ukraine , or in transcarpathia, yes. that is, it is more efficient than building, and there is no time to build housing, eh, and there is no need to have any illusions that in such a short time we will be able to to rebuild all these power grids and heat supply systems that were destroyed in this crisis, not only in izyum, but in many cities of ukraine that have been liberated from occupation and will be liberated from occupation. i think that it is possible that mariupol in kherson will also be liberated in the period autumn and winter period, this is also needed here. this is how we know from the reports of local residents.

there is still no electricity, water, or electricity . how can you evaluate this? the russians do not consider mariupol theirs, that is, they think that it can still happen and the ukrainian army will come there. they don't want to invest or whatever. well, they are not at all interested in the local residents and them. they only think about themselves, everyone there means to save their own skin, and that's why no one there will think about the locals, and god bless them can have the department should evacuate if possible. yes, but our state must be ready to move a large number of people from the occupied territories who

will be released. well, people have individual houses there, there are some boilers there. that means solid fuel there, so maybe they will be able to heat themselves there, but who lives in such residential buildings? yes, there is also a destroyed place somewhere infrastructure, there is no other way to evacuate people. well, you understand, well, this is in my opinion, mr. ivan, add. well, we have such negative examples of armenia and georgia, when they lived for a long period of time without gas, and small houses were installed in multi-apartment buildings , and the inhabitants of the cities actually produced all the lots of forest plantations on their own. which were located on the territory of these cities, but if we look at tbilisi , it is actually these trees that grow there, well, they are planted trees, and in the previous ones they were cut down and you look at their high-rise buildings and everywhere there are pipes sticking out from those boilers that were

installed in each individual apartment. as long as a person lived, she heated herself independently, because even solid fuel boilers solve the situation because they need electricity for the operation of the pump that drives and circulates water through the internal system, and here the only thing this is a guaranteed, uh, opportunity to warm up, this is a small house with firewood or with coal, and here is the problem that we have already talked about, it is expensive firewood, where can people get it, and the lack of coal for people actually, i think most of the scenario is when people go and take saws on their own, especially in cities , and start cutting down trees. as for rural areas, here, in fact, some communities have already started planting energy plants, because you and i also have a land reform that was carried out last year and agricultural land was transferred to the management of local self-government bodies, and here who sooner understood what was needed in the spring, energy plants began to be planted. but again, the problem is not

one year in order to systematically replace heating boilers where there were gas ones, install solid fuel boilers, change the system and so on, this is all investment, this is all money and the need to buy it, so it is absolutely true, this is a period of time, and again, there is a lack of a unified state policy on this issue, that is why it is necessary here self-government and scientific-methodical consultation to provide and help with practical advice because the vast majority of the land is small villages, settlements so separately, separate cities, again, small gives agricultural land, they have a lack of highly qualified specialists and a lack of access to state and other funding between the state and access to credit funds, and this is exactly where this synergy lies . can provide large cities with energy plants that will be able to

replace firewood, coal and everything else for such critical moments that peak loads can be survived by simply throwing electricity into the furnace of this plant, in fact, if we are talking about an alternative, then in order to insulate your home on the eve of cold weather, there are several options, and in particular, in a private house, it is easiest to install an autonomous solid fuel boiler, a more exotic option for ukrainians is a heat pump that pumps heat from the environment to the room, there is another idea: a solar battery on the roof of the building, you can also insulate the house with mineral wool or foam plastic if it is somewhat cheap and, in addition, it can retain heat replacement of old windows and doors ah, as for multi-apartment buildings, it is somewhat more difficult to insulate at state expense, but

residents of apartments can check the condition of the heating and electrical networks on their own. also insulate the pipes in the basement, the attic and the technical floor , taking into account the large number of heaters that are turned on, it is worth checking the maximum load that the house can have and the good old remains, so to speak, the classics about which we we have been talking since the beginning of our conversation in the studio burzuyki metal stoves that can be used for heating the room and in particular for cooking oleksiy ryabchyn should be in touch with us that's right it 's fine advisers of supermerk on issues of european and euro-atlantic integration adviser to the chairman of the board but naftogaz of ukraine, oleksiy, is the black out real for us? and what should ukrainians do if it

happens ? the thing is, how did you want it? that the russians can go after all energy facilities and transformers and generation facilities, that is, it can be everything. i think the ukrainians will freeze and go to overthrow the government so that the government will go. the russians agreed that this will not happen, that is, it will not happen for sure. supports sanctions, came to power and negotiated with putin directly. that is, this is their plan and this is the last thing they can do. this winter, this is their bet. therefore, we should be ready for anything . or it will come, besides, we are now

connected to the european union through the nu nsu network, and relatively speaking, we are connected and we can take electricity, buy from the european union, the main chocolate, infrastructure. so it will be done, also correctly, you said your in the graphics, check the wiring and there is the connection of the transformer phases, all all the communications in their houses, because if there is less heat for some reason, then people usually have a correlation between heat consumption and the increase in electricity, yes, people will turn on electric heating, maybe there really will be a lack of voltage, traffic jams will be knocked out and install a voltage relay, check, call electricians, i.e., all this is done by people, it is done by the entrance, it is done by zheks or condominiums, it is done together with the city authorities, it is called, that is, that is all now, as far as i know, it’s simple and it’s possible

that there’s someone lazy and there’s an electrician, isn’t there? well, the first thing is that they licked people and there’s no one to proceed , that is, right now, we still have time . together, everyone, so that later you will know what you have done. someone, i don't know, is taking the parents from the village to the city, saying that it will be the cheapest and best place. someone, on the contrary, is planning to move to the village because it is easier there together. it will be a difficult winter comfort and about survival yes, we will win next year, it will be good, mr. oleksiy, is it known exactly when the heating season will start in ukraine, and uh, hmm, are there temperature regulations uh, in homes, uh, well, there is the standard that is written down is that there must be a certain

temperature there for three days. however, i think that here it will already be selected manually by each city government . yes, each city government has its own. well, they don’t know how much gas they have at cheap prices. you will not consider this heating the most smart city mayors are already transferring the boiler house, its materials. i know that lviv and zhytomyr have it and in different regions we plan to do it during the burning season. choose to do all these thorns, programs that are warm, uh, there will be energy efficiency, this is homework

. he will ensure more or less comfortable conditions for the community there, he will say that he is a good economy, these are the people, do you see optimism? you are talking about the elections, well, how do kyivans guarantee warmth in the winter, what activities do they take to keep warm and not to get cold, our correspondent asked the ukrainians how they prepare for the winter period, the thoughts of the people of kyiv further, there is gas there, unfortunately, i will not come to kyiv, and if something happens here, god forbid, we will go there. well, somehow we will get out of the situation i'm very worried, i need to work and earn money so that i can support the economy and pay for the heating of my home. i was preparing. i bought a heater for the country. this winter is very difficult, but

i think we will endure everything and everything will be fine. in principle, i have normal heating in the apartment, there are heaters and warm blankets well, what is winter, war, that ’s it, yes, and i’m not afraid of winter, we’ll survive. ivan , some people also advise all ukrainians who live in apartment buildings to stock up on fire extinguishers. share this opinion definitely because mr. oleksiy said that they do not check the electrical networks, possible short circuits and flashes, and that can lead to fires, so the fire extinguisher really will not be called here, so i wanted to say that when we are already talking about small pots, now we also need to think about where to remove the gases from them, that is, somewhere you need to drill holes in order for gas to escape from the heating, and a person somehow we speak for them for multi-apartment buildings correctly.

to look for it at peak times, when it will definitely not be possible to find it, especially those regions of ours, which are populated areas that survived the occupation, and the majority of them were watching and they said that it would not reach us. the phone because there is no way to charge it and other related problems, let it happen than not, it will be better to plan with and have a clear algorithm of actions for residents of one apartment on one floor of the entrance of the building, so if we are talking about losses less heat goes through the walls, you need to think about how to close the window completely, it is possible to put some warm curtains, some mattresses, because the most heat loss is really our windows and the roof of the house. people should think better about it, local authorities are preparing for this, the state is preparing for this, and every ukrainian should assess the conditions in which

he lives and be ready for the most critical i am sure that they will not come, so you need to be optimistic, but it is better when it is, and taking into account all these factors, it will be much easier to survive the winter, that is, if the temperature changes somewhat, he knows well, i will go and throw it in there somewhere in the basement, we have equipped some additional boiler room the warmer the warm air will rise up, it is easier even consciously, and for everyone who has a plan b - this is where and so on and so on and so on because it is only possible to expect an easy passage of the heating season. i will emphasize this well on this, the state and local authorities are doing their best to make this heating season acceptable, not that comfortable, but for the residents of ukraine, but less so, each of us must think about ourselves, our families, and our loved ones parents, children, etc. and these things are extremely important. well, here is the only thing

i would like to add for those who, after all, risked building a small apartment building for themselves . not in any case in general, a home e-e hood or e-e ventilation , because in this way you can simply poison your neighbors if we add to the whole house a-a and finally information in ukraine there is an agreement with the united states on the provision of two billion cubic meters of gas from american miners and about prime minister denys myhal said at a briefing that the gas will be received during the fourth quarter of this year and the first quarter of next year. ukraine is also negotiating with gas-producing countries of northern europe in particular with norway about additional supply, taking into account its own production of total volumes , it has enough to sustainably pass

the seasons. gas will be called by the naftogaz private company, we now have enough to pass concretely , this has already been determined in a normal stable mode. we need additional gas in order to to provide additional security for the inheritance if we can then without any problems replace coal generation with gas output and other other needs, of course, the more gas you have, the storage, the better the pressure, you are all stable and feel normal, but we understand the prices that are currently on in the world markets, they do not accept or contribute to the fact that, well, these are very easy negotiations. that is why the

negotiations are going on now than about the gas linguite and regarding the terms of financing, and we will be happy to talk when it already happens. and so we are all with you we will get them positively which as a state we are sending to the united states for the european union, that is, which country will be the gas, including a large, large several and regarding the resource itself and regarding its financial aspect, they are perceived now , negotiations are underway, how it will all be arranged, what signals they have to be perceived by ukrainians positively thank you thank you , gentlemen volodymyr romanchenko director of energy programs of the razumkova center here with us in the studio ivan fursenko adviser of the association of cities of ukraine also with us was oleksiy ryabchyn, adviser to the vice-prime minister, who on the issue of european and euro-atlantic integration, adviser to the chairman of the board of naftogaz

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