unfortunately raisin, russia is leaving behind death everywhere and must be responsible for it, the world must hold russia to real responsibility for this war , we will do everything for this, and this has greatly excited the whole of europe, and in particular, we have begun to receive more weapons. and now we want russia recognized the sponsor of the state as a sponsor of terrorism, how to make sure that there is no less attention to these liberated territories in slobozhanshchyna, it is necessary to pay more attention to information, to the disclosure of all these crimes, to the status of the processes, the investigation, the investigation investigations into these crimes and giving comments

from international experts who are involved in the investigation of these crimes because we are now all more hidden, hidden by attention to hostilities, but all these moments are very much an opportunity from the point of view of our existence in the information field and abroad, that is, here it is not about shock content, it is about the coverage of procedural actions in the investigation of these crimes. we must ask foreign politicians for their comments on these crimes and on these actions, that is, we must enter this discourse abroad, and in order not to fall out of the spotlight and with let's say this point eh well, don't lower

the degree of coffee that we got there after buchi, as a resident of the market, i can say that it is true and those psychological techniques that were used by the russian troops they are really brutal with the military, on the verge of crimes, but we are not communicating so actively yet. that is, why did they prohibit removing the corpses of residents from the streets there, that is, the first burial in buchi was only there on march 12, already there 10 days after they went into the city but you see here they had enough time to put up crosses well here for the sake of it because it was the whole summer and it was already since march if it was still

cool there they could lie there in the street, in the summer if it happened it would already be a threat and there is an epidemic of diseases there, that’s why they did it, and not so much because it’s not so expensive there some kind of morals or ethics from the point of view of banal disinfection, the moment because all the high techniques and it was fashionable to go to ukraine, they came to kyiv and how much to go to buchi and how much to borodyanka that is, you can very quickly to get there and show it actually if you think that we are exaggerating. look for yourself. well, it is probably a little more difficult to bring observers to izyum. but nevertheless, they have already brought them, that is, it must be said that even when the kyiv region was liberated, yes, that was when this international commission of international experts of investigative criminologists was created, which and were engaged in documenting crimes, it is very

important that it was an international commission, and not only domestic experts so that there would be no accusations. because we were biased or had certain inclined, yes, that is, in order to expose the situation , international criminalists who were engaged in all this, what politicians visited, well, of course . the teams of criminologists and medical experts who document all this are russians who are very funny people. well, they think that if they will just deny it, that is enough. they have forgotten that the 21st century is upon us. yes, and what is possible it is enough to clearly determine the time of death, the cause of death, well, that is, to identify the victims. well, what are they , well, what are they, and with a capital uh, i don't know how to uh, listen. people now identify people who are found by archaeologists, that is, does this mean that they are not

because of their drowsiness, yes they did no they did uh just the power of the fact that they were so sure of their impunity that they didn't even bother to hide something that is and when it is necessary to make an excuse that it is necessary to hide well then you just know that well if they are being recruited into prison, it's no wonder they behave like convicts, yes, i am. no, i'm not my horse, and i stupidly refused. well, okay, but these convicts should understand that they ended up behind bars. although they walked the same way in otka, but there is an evidential base, they collected it, proved it, and demonstrated it with all the consequences, so to speak. what does it all lead to? it is clear that adaptation is taking place. it is clear that bucha was a shock to the world. well, to this day, everyone is getting used to it. yes. that before that yes such and such e happens such and such takes place but this does not mean that the absence of the same acute and painful reaction does not mean that

everything is not interesting to anyone and no, everything is still interesting and we see that the scale is increasing, you understand what is the matter, that is, on the one hand, yes, you are reacting uh, how did they say that the death of one person is a tragedy, and the death of millions is a statistic, yes, these are statistics, but these statistics are terrifying, and that is why today, once again, the government of the president speaks about the fact that if you are tired of the war, if you are very strong, how to say derail all these eyes news yes and you really, well, it's really stressful, that is, an ordinary burger is sitting, for example, somewhere there, drinking beer , hawaii sausages, and he is shown these horrors of tortured, murdered, shot. yes, he already has a neighbor who doesn't want to climb down his throat and he has two options, either don't let him show it, he'll do it, figure it out, it's not happening, or put an end to it as soon as possible so that in the end we can have a war in germany or there in france see other news

about how ukraine is being rebuilt, and about how life is being restored, that's why zelensky is right , you want to put an end to this horror, please give the armed forces of ukraine all the necessary resources so that they put an end to this war as soon as possible, to the great regret of another way to end this war, well for now it simply does not exist , because the russian federation does not understand anything else. well, you can also recognize russia as a sponsor of terrorism. what are the senators in the united states of america moving towards? the consideration of the congress is, accordingly, the proposal of the draft law, will it be done in your opinion p serhii that the statements of the white house and er and the president himself indicate that they do not yet intend to recognize russia er according to this law of their state as a sponsor of terrorism a in the meantime, the scale continues to increase, not

just continues to increase, they continue to impress and the policy of the president was chosen very correctly, very correctly, to speak to western societies directly, that is, simply to speak to the people with the help of social media, television, it has already become possible, and today we can see the results , that is, a few months, all in all, the real facts about the war are being addressed, and we can see how public opinion in western countries has changed, how much people have begun to support the provision of including ukraine's weapons more than their political stance and under the influence of people's opinions change today we see the statements of scholze and it is already much more radical why because he bought fertilizers or did he learn something new no of course because he has his voters and the fact that the ratings in the party and his personally are collapsing and we have to show raisin, of course, because the destruction caused in raisin and kharkiv oblast and the horrors are actually greater than in the smallest

villages gucci borodyantsi and so further, that is, we must make this war closer to every european. and from here, of course, the only mechanism really, i absolutely agree, the only mechanism to put an end to all this horror is more weapons for ukraine, all the weapons that are needed for us to win, because we have already seen the world that i am, it acts as a terrorist state, it has disregarded all international conventions, all the rules of warfare, and it believes that it is possible not to apply them and, accordingly, that this is also terror against the civilian population - this is a sign, actually speaking, of the terrorist group itself, unfortunately, this is what the russian federation has today. that is why we must continue our policy despite all the statements of biden and the white house and continue the politics of perception it is russia as a terrorist state and, accordingly, the application of methods to them and the entire

arsenal as to any terrorist organization . our investigators were not certified, and therefore without the involvement of investigators from international institutions who know how a case should be properly processed in order for it to be considered in the hague, they are needed here in our territory, and the more the better, because even everyday crimes will be dealt with in the gas , because they were first of all wrong. it's just

a formality, by the way, the procedure is very important, not in the west, these crimes are committed, it's not only russians, gentlemen these are also those and that part of our society that we legally call collaborators, in fact, further on, we will talk about citizens of ukraine who voluntarily agreed to cooperate with the enemy, awaiting punishment up to life imprisonment, which exactly collaborators will not be held responsible, a separate law defines that persons who publicly justify and encourage the actions of the aggressor are threatened with deprivation of the right to hold certain positions, the same responsibility will be borne by those who voluntarily went to work in institutions organized by the enemy, and those who served the occupiers in managerial positions are threatened with up to 10 years to prisons for russian propaganda in educational institutions, you can go to prison for three years for transferring material resources to the occupiers or organizing together with them

organizers of pseudo-referendums or propaganda companies can spend up to 12 years behind bars, and those who helped the enemy with weapons in their hands up to 15. if their actions lead to death, the punishment will be life imprisonment for more than 600 teachers whose changes, however there are also those who knowingly and voluntarily agreed to cooperate with the occupation authorities, such cases fall under the article on collaboration, says educational ombudsman serhii gorbachev, people there are really threatened with eviction and the rest with death - liberation is not the worst thing. it will be a very difficult and painful story, because we still have to look at every case when a teacher works for the occupiers. if he talks about newton's law, that's one thing, but if he talks about one nation and little russia, then this

person has nothing to do in ukrainian education. the work of doctors in the temporarily occupied territories will not be considered collaborationism but only in cases when they only carried out the orders of the occupiers and did not take the initiative themselves, said the minister of health viktor lyashko medical care and work in a health care institution will not be considered collaborationism , cooperation with the occupiers for political reasons, which will be recorded, this can be considered collaborationism, let our people work and provide medical care, maybe some things will arise that they will be forced to do, because it is a matter of their survival, it is not cooperation is survival, but if a person took the initiative himself, wanted to head some conditionally created department of health care and supports the occupiers, then it is clear that this is cooperation. our investigative bodies, in particular, we heard comments from the dbr, those people who did not want to

cooperate, but they had to, are put behind bars because they were threatened, and for the future, there is also advice from the dbr that it is necessary to notify the ukrainian authorities, our services, in particular, our legal law enforcement agencies if you are in the still-occupied territories and they come to you with certain demands, you must tell our law enforcement officers and in this way you will be acquitted later, but how easy will it be to figure out later who wanted to cooperate and who showed it will be difficult to figure out who was forced to take the initiative. well, that is why all these post-war investigations last a very long time, and you have to understand that even today they are still trying to find and punish people who were involved in the crimes of nazism. for years, that is, they don't

have a statute of limitations for the first time, that is, crimes against humanity and war crimes do not have a statute of limitations, that's why if you think you have n't been caught today, it's okay, they will be caught in 25 in 30 years, in 40 years, you will be hiding all your life. well, that is, if you are not cleaned up and not liquidated, uh, your russian cartridges must also be realized , and i am sure that sooner or later russia will be, well, post-russian space, so to speak, what will arise there they will try to crawl out behind the iron curtain and i will watch with great pleasure how they themselves will extradite their war criminals, this will be very cool, i already foresee it because i have already seen it already in the tribunals from the former yugoslavia, for example, because for many local peoples, well, these people were considered national heroes, and then, under the pressure of circumstances, they were forced to extradite these people, because they were also considered war criminals, and i was. by the way, in asia i personally saw this trial of karatechecha, so i have

certain experience and personal impressions as it looks like the next question is that it is very easy to practice patriotism and again, being in kyiv, and i am not ready to give an assessment of the choice that our citizens who are under occupation are making now. forced action and voluntary action well, it can also be established, well, that is, we live in the xxi century as well, and the main thing is that there are things that you do under compulsion and this compulsion can relieve you of responsibility and there are things that you do under compulsion and this compulsion does not relieve you responsibility well, for example, forced to rape, kill, date well,

uh , this has already been answered. there really are the same doctors, uh, teachers, well, i just remember in this context galileo galilei , so i don’t know how relevant it is, but still, it turns. well, because, you know, this is what i used to call sport existential faith , that is, there are things what is the objective truth when it comes to subjective truth? well, there you probably really have to show some will. and when it comes to objective truth, in principle there is no point in even arguing because you said so or did you say otherwise it doesn't matter because that's it i would still call on our fellow citizens who are under occupation, i repeat, they are deprived not only of civil rights, they are deprived not only of political rights, they are deprived of human rights, well, they are not subjects there, you understand, that is, any person who is under occupation can at any moment

become the object of absolutely unpunished violence, well, at that moment, you don't even have the opportunity to even read yourself, well, the balance of forces is not in your favor, therefore, in such conditions, i would still uh the next priority is to save life to save health, preserve honor, dignity, if it is possible in such conditions, to preserve property if it is so possible, and then just figure it out, but when you move on and and the most important thing is, let's not deceive ourselves, every person when he does something , in most cases, he realizes what motives she is guided and what does she do? it's one thing when you are forced to do something there. yes, and you understand what it is, even if it's bad, even if you understand that it will later be a subject for consideration of responsibility, that's a different story. when you consciously eh well, i don't know there joyfully not joyfully we do let's think and then you will avoid

punishment here i fill in no you will not escape and the most interesting thing is you know what will happen what will be the most important indicator this is the russian saying on the gate and the cap on fire most of the collaborators will run away together er, with the russian invaders, they will not stay. that is, we will have to catch them not on our territory, then, that is, the very trash trash trash, you know, those who already had no value at all or were completely stupid , will remain here who did not understand what was happening and all the others will run away, we will hunt them down then, well, according to the russian space, this is an important moment, it is their self-awareness of what they did and, accordingly, the behavior that will come from the very awareness and self-evaluation of what they have done, but the scale can already wait to be large at all, if you take into account the official statistics, the national police reported only at the end of august and 1,200 criminal proceedings based on the facts of collaborationism, but the scale can be even greater and not all will escape

dmytro, some people will try to change their clothes. but uh, i would like to draw your attention to such an uh, such an element as what and what can we offer these people in return, that is, the same teachers and how can you fulfill your mission in the occupied territory they do not violate the law on collaboration over there. how about you? if you don’t have internet connection with ukraine. yes, with the big land there, you can report that you are being forced to do something. how can you do it? are there tools to avoid it? yes or somewhere there the manifestation of one's civil position there or one's will towards ukraine, did the

ministry of education, our special services there, create communication mechanisms with people under occupation at this time, how was it there, yes , there in the temporarily occupied territories in donetsk, when they created a full-fledged promotion there ah, communication channels, how can you notify? have we heard about such mechanisms now, because it is possible to intimidate people, yes, while walking here in kyiv, but when you are really under occupation, there is a completely different logic of survival, and if you are left without communication without information without anything. so you are leaving the world that surrounds you here and now. and i am

telling you this as a man who was in the occupation in buch, who is leaving us even there, the special services say well , you can run there and you understand that there are already roadblocks and you can't get out because no one can even be seen for a few seconds, that is, the establishment of any crime, including collaborationism, well, it has not only an objective side, but also a subjective one objective, that is, intent , and if so, i agree that doctors are for for example, they and according to all the engineering conventions of the 70s, it was already recognized by the international community that when a doctor who provides medical services provides his soldiers to foreign soldiers, everything is normal. that is, this is such a humanitarian category of people. they are protected, but the question is that when the administration begins that is, when

someone leads as a doctor, but he heads some institution, some government body and starts to implement policy, that is, he does not directly provide assistance to the population or the military, even if even to the military, but he already implements policy. it applies to everyone else, that is, when the implementation of, let’s say, the very policy of the occupying state begins, oh then you can’t define it by some means that you were forced to do something there , that is, because you yourself show will, you show initiative, and of course the best thing that the russian federation has done is she marked her followers and issued passports herself. and what we see now at the borders, and i think that we have seen many, many more cases, are such kilometer-long queues . when those who took passports are what they received. in the occupied luhansk region, in particular. this is in recent days. we have observed huge traffic jams there from two to 12 km, and when the russian

federation itself does not accept them. that is, this is a subject for consideration, and i agree that those criminal proceedings that have been opened today are simply a state mechanism it just doesn't cope with all these crimes yet, and there are tens of times more of them, they are more terrible, it's just kyiv region bucha irpin borodyanka, they taught the russians that they still have to hide somehow, they have to put a cross somewhere it is necessary to bury it somewhere in the ground, that is, it is not enough to commit atrocities, that is, it is still necessary to treat it differently, therefore, these crimes and the facts of collaborationism, i think we will see everything and this will manifest itself. of course, the presence of a state resource in order to it is very responsible to treat this because this work is specifically this work, this is the work that the state is doing today .

these are the most serious crimes against the state, so that in the future they do not lay this mine, e.e., an explosive mine , our foundations are under the state foundations on these occupied lands, e.e., temporarily occupied, as it was after the 14th year, as it was after the 14th year it will be and this is what the military says, this is what everyone who experienced the horrors of war says, none of minsk , not one, two, or any other, to at least somehow whiten all those collaborators and feel their impunity. there will be no more impunity. 10 literally briefly, first of all many of them will still be prosecuted under other articles of the criminal code. yes, there are violations of territorial values, the sovereignty of ukraine has come into question. yes, there will be a different composition of the crime. they are also deliberately dispersing propaganda and washing the urban local population

under the occupation about the fact that ukraine considers everyone to be traitors, that they will all be filtered there, there are some who are still punished through concentration camps, here we have to oppose this because the people. we are releasing those people. you understand what the matter is, and i would not want us to repeat the practice of the soviet union. yes, this article was under occupation or not under occupation when all those who were under occupation are potentially considered traitors. this is a bad practice . we consider these people as those of our citizens whom we release, and they, uh, you know, the last one in the line is a cool poem, uh, brecht, the lion from the root of the tea tree, good people are pleased by your grace, and the wicked are frightened by your claws, yes those people who are citizens of ukraine for them should not be frightened by the armed forces of ukraine, they are not frightened by the return of the ukrainian government there, the return of the ukrainian

state and the return of ukrainians. serhiy kuzan, the head of the ukrainian security center for cooperation, was with us, valentin glydykh, political scientist dmytro gromakov, a military expert, an expert of the international center for countering russian propaganda, were with us. well, our broadcast continues the marathon continues, don't switch. after a two-month course in medicine, i went to the donetsk region, where i learned for the first time what war is. of course, like everyone else, i protect myself from the arrival of everyone who hides in a trench. at first, it's very scary, but then you get used to it. i know what and who i'm protecting. 15%

of the ukrainian army these are women, with their work, courage , honor and courage, they proved that they are no different from the other 85%. in ukraine, there is no weaker sex, my country, my country, it was different in winter, harsh, charming, and you are not smell of flowers and grow, its summer tastes from the owner , but my country is really bright and colorful, in my country, they are unique and wonderful, they give birth to security, colorful, this is dragobrat in the spring, who covered himself with a soft blanket, where you have not been, you will always return home

to your ukraine, i will not give it to anyone a rescuer is an internal purpose, not an obligation; it is a mission, not a compulsion - it is a high spirit and greatness. you can teach how to hold a fire hose, but it is impossible to teach how to save someone else's life, sometimes at the cost of your own . was to be ready for self-sacrifice to be courageous to be humane to be a role model for others state emergency service we will save we will restore we will win it was only a year ago but the war took away the childhood of young ukrainians join the

charity platform children help and help the ukrainian children of the war say the words glory to ukraine glory to the heroes do you watch the film of the marathon of unified news for children for the sake of the future on september 25 at exactly 21:00 in ukraine news time on the air of the nationwide marathon olga butko i welcome you to the liberated areas of kharkiv region found president volodymyr zelenskyi said that more than 10 executioners have already been executed in various cities and towns. he says that when the invaders fled, they threw torture devices, so ukrainian experts have enough evidence of the torture that the invaders used against the population.