it is necessary to understand that a ukrainian enterprise can be given to a swedish one, well, actually, what can ukrainian industry or science do, i mentioned this triangle for a reason , er, science, industry, the armed forces, because it is, well, they are like a single organism, in principle, this is how it works in this world, i mean normal countries where i am , everything is in principle well normalized yes yes what i want to say is that it is necessary to understand that ukrainian science is enough to offer and here it is not for nothing that we mentioned the attack on and these these neocris and the like leases yes because without this well, believe me, none gripens, no archers, none of this can happen in principle, well, then, if we are talking about the prospects for the ukrainian defense and industrial complex, mr. vitaly, we survived rammstein rammstein, it was said about the next packages

of military aid, and it was also said that after a certain time, in particular on september 28 there will be a new event and meetings of the deputy defense ministers of nato countries, the united states, there are 50 more countries that will create the so-called new defense industrial cooperation in order to to produce weapons for the restoration of own e-e losses and needs and to meet the medium-term and long-term needs of the armed forces of ukraine. so , i have a question: do we have ways or opportunities to involve our defense industry in this new world military-technical cooperation, which is beginning to take shape precisely against the background of the opposition to russian aggression, what steps can be taken on our side, uh, thank you, good question, uh, unfortunately, from our side, all the grinding is done, only representatives of the ministry of defense participate in the negotiations of ukraine and the participation of people engaged in

production, well, not from the administration of the prom, not from the ministry of economy, not from private companies , no one is involved in these negotiations, so our military, they ask only those questions that concern them and that concern them at the moment time, if we do not change our approaches and do not involve in these negotiations those developers and manufacturers of equipment under the leadership of the central authorities who are responsible for this, then unfortunately, again, it will all pass without us. that is, all western countries will unite without us to produce weapons for themselves and for us, that is why i urge, using your broadcast, i urge our authorities to listen to what you just said and immediately react that the group that is in rammstein should include representatives of the

authorities responsible for production development weapons and military equipment. well, in addition to this project, we are also expecting a lend-lease, and you remember that we once discussed with you what we are talking about as a military aid, and in fact, based on historical experience, this is a loan list. technologies that our country can get new equipment there. and in fact, this is precisely the opportunity to ensure such a restart for our defense industry, as we approach lend-lease so that, relatively speaking, we are not left with a broken trough when we are talking about our domestic defense industry, well , exactly it's absolutely ridiculous that they noticed that the lend-lease that was there during the second world war, if you read what was included in this package , then most of it was raw materials, components, and even after that there were ready produced unfortunately, none of us, uh, no one from

our country, at the moment, does not ask questions at these negotiations, and this is a disaster. for example, i will say, maybe i will surprise you there, julia, uh, this is, for example, if i now want to hurry up and buy armor for the production of heavy armored vehicles in ukraine, they won’t sell it to me , and who won’t sell it to germany, norway, and finland. for some reason, they have a ban on supplying us with armor 8 or more millimeters thick, in fact, the guys tell us we are everything to you we will bring it, we will supply you with everything, you do not need to engage in production. and the armor that we are offered, well, it can be made either with bulletproof vests or light armored vehicles, which seriously does not affect the range. defense of our interests, which is in the military and

not in industry, it is not in the ministry of economy, it is not in administrative speeches, well , the president can’t do it for everyone, let’s say so, demand it, give it, yes, yes, you have to work specialists - unfortunately they all don't work, they don't understand that the economy is such a component and the military-industrial complex is the same component of the security and defense sector, they understand that they will give us everything, they will give us everything. the war will end, no one says that he will not have a war again and that he does not need to prepare for new clashes e.p. on the ukrainian side, it is possible to open the cards a little, which companies today are still ready to

cooperate in ukraine as suppliers of weapons or how are new models created for the partner? well , there is really nothing strange here, because sweden is an export country and no one there wants to pay such competitors, knowing what the ukrainian industry is capable of, they understand well that we will add some components, critical components, for example, with everything, here is swedish steel there or something else, such as microcircuits, for example there american or any, and we will get a top-class product, but of course. no one wants to make themselves competitors. that’s what i’m saying. this is an extremely pragmatic relationship. yes, they, well, the nato country, sweden, in general, will and want to substitute modern weapons for ukraine for defense, of course, but on in the long term, no one wants to have a very serious competitor in terms

of armaments. and as for which companies, yes, almost all companies, i say . i heard that someone refused, in principle, everyone is ready, it’s actually just hmm what ukraine needs, it’s unlikely that ukraine needs it now, even i hear that they will give it, it just won’t be able to work as it should , that is, the first thing is what ukraine needs now, realistically, a secondly, it is the opportunity of industry to produce because now, um, this is the global crisis, whose it is basically a large company, i mean the smallest company in this one, they depend on warehouse stocks of critical equipment and this is, in principle limited, the only limitation is that there are no other restrictions, there is no power, there are smart people, everything is there, there are components

, in principle, this is a problem now, but it will be solved little by little and, in principle, there are positive signals. so, in principle, everything will be fine. the projects that sweden wants to implement are precisely from this package of 1.5 billion that was discussed there at the beginning of september in copenhagen, that is, there is something that acts as the financial driving force of these initiatives, well , i do not have such information directly, but we hmm it's definitely swedish, for example, it's the state budget of sweden, it's so simple, but what resources interact there at the level of ossetian treaties. you know that, as an expert country, there are some obligations, uh, imports for imports for exports,

in principle there are, i think that there are certain agreements regarding the financing of this, but for today it is the state budget. mr. vitali is now saying that it is necessary to form some kind of strategy for the survival of the ukrainian defense industry, and there they write the following three options for the development of the type of events to be postponed ukrainian enterprises to the neighboring cro-friendly countries of the european union. the second issue is to emphasize the creation of joint ventures with those companies that participate in the rammstein initiatives there. well, the third option is to manufacture there modern samples of weapons that have shown their effectiveness using our defense enterprises. how would you lay out these cubes from the point of view of what is most needed, what is realistic if unrealistic in the current conditions, you know , uh, none of these options uh, uh, work uh, uh

first of all, you need to answer the question what are our armed forces ordering until the armed forces sign at least three-year contracts, which is currently allowed by law with our manufacturers , everything you said does not work. enterprises, if the owner is the state, then the state produces e-e spends money, if the owner is a private company or there is a joint-stock company, then these are the owners who own this enterprise, on the basis of which the decision is made e.e. to lose or spend funds for preparation for development for production preparation on the basis of the contract, on the basis of the order, the

technique is calculated, the economic justification is made, and a decision is made if there is no three-year order. so they are not with anyone, there are no customers. if there is an order, give it today for yesterday if there are no such contracts then please tell me which owner wants a land-based company, i want a domestic company, even if the company is with the state, on what grounds will it spend money on production preparation, no one will not do anything, because if this is a state company and the director of the building is at his discretion. well, let's spend there a million 2 10 100 million on the preparation of production, the contract will not be signed tomorrow, the controlling body will come and say that you have not used the funds effectively, you will be responsible for to the law for causing damage to the state, if these are private enterprises, a decision will never be made. if you don't understand when the money will be returned to you, someone sets a deadline

of three years, someone five, someone seven, someone 10 but everyone has a payback period. if there is no contract, there is no order, there is no order, and there is no purchase, no one will invest. likewise, they count money abroad more strictly, so neither the first nor the second nor the third option that you mentioned will not work if the armed forces do not transfer to our country. normal three-year planning and when signing contracts, no one says that it is necessary to sign a three-year contract today and pay 100% of the advance payment for the entire cost of the scan tractor , it is about the fact that the contract must be signed for three years and money to pay well, for example, a batch of products shipped was settled, other batches of shipments were settled with someone, it will be a monthly shipment to someone, it will be a quarterly shipment, but you need to understand the total volume of the order, the total amount of funds and calculate the

payback period. does not work well, then it does not work in the territory of ukraine, not in the territory of sweden, nor in the territory of poland. well, then we are talking about the fact that the ukrainian pc the future is also quite pessimistic, because in fact no one counts time in three-year terms, the military bets on foreign weapons, then it turns out that the only possibility for the survival of the ukrainian pc is to switch to the maintenance of foreign equipment, which is supplied in significant quantities, at best, to ensure the current repair of these samples such a perspective ukrainian defense forces not quite yes not quite yes i can tell you as a matter of fact ukraine will simply find its niche where there is good competence purely professional professional e-e well, for example, ai yes, that is, program code or something that does not require large investments

itself in material assets e-e, for example, there are those or something like that production e-e just find your own and it will be incorporated into a very long chain of extremely complex because now just the topic of the system and any one even disappeared here, where the actual system, which consists of a large number of components, we need to support the daily routine work of upgrades when and so on, that is, i would not say that it will be, well, it will not be a failure, but in principle, i would not i looked like this, selfishly, there will simply be reformatting and niche news found. and those e-e companies are like the defense industry, as i understand it. maybe i am really wrong, then they will simply leave because it is a structure. well, i do not see here in the west that such structures work effectively at all. i don't see it at all. that is, all the companies in

sweden that have been supplying e-e weapons for decades are state-of-the -art, they are all private, and we know why long-term contracts without conditions. on a complex on a modern complex that needs years and the like, this is, well, this is absurd, of course , not at least three-year contracts with phased financing, uh, where are there, in principle, normal markers, indicators of the effectiveness of achieving certain goals, just like that, we literally have two minutes before the end of the broadcast. i would like to ask mr. vitaly , what do you see as the future of the ukrainian pc in view of the pessimistic scenario that i drew, which yura is trying to understand, but what do you think our pc will be like in a year two from

in view of the fact that there is an impression that we do not influence the formation of his future, you know, i have a pessimistic mood, i'm just telling the truth, i say what i think, and my mood, on the contrary , is optimistic, because our armed forces are doing something very important for us they prove their work on the battlefield that our weapons are very effective and, er, they win in this war, not only the weapons that are given to us by the west, and our weapons, er, i would even say, in most cases, our weapons are now at the front showing their effectiveness, so as soon as we we will win and the hostilities will end. i think that we are already talking more openly about what is happening now at which enterprises, what is there, the queue of foreign customers will stand for ten years before and at

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mid-relegation was quite intense and we have three results in the eurocups, three different results and the defeat was, unfortunately, a draw and a victory for our team, and we will also be preparing for the next one week until the next match, because our national team is already entering the fight for the championship in the league of nations, the only thing that is possible, unfortunately, is that there is no tour of the ukrainian championship, all the leading tournaments, all the leading championships are playing, but we decided to take pause well, probably for our team, although again the legionnaires will all come from practice, because almost everyone who was called, er, has trips to er, this medvid for this weekend, well, one who has already arrived is andriy yarmolenko, and we will later show the words of andriy yarmolenko just as always, andriy analyzed all the situations and about sports and football and about the war , too, er, pirates, he is currently playing in alyan in serhiy rebrov's team and has already managed to distinguish himself with a scored goal and got into the symbolic national team tour, and now is it or not the most important star of the uae football in

to this country. well, you know the same topic again, that they moved turkey over the weekend, there is no tour. it seems that we are constantly preparing for something , but the world championships were only once, unfortunately. that's right because, well, again, we have someone to learn from. the national team of england, for example, the leading and national teams of france and spain are playing all the rounds, despite the fact that the national teams will play in the next round, despite the fact that now this medvik was played by all the leading clubs, spanish, english, french , italian, german, and so on, but we decided why didn't we play because of the war there, because it was very problematic to start, it was very problematic to start, but finally, uh, they started to play and that we have so many national teams in clubs in the premier league. well, actually, it's enough, but you see, they didn't travel there there were two people from volynets and riznyk on the train. then they joined in stages from dnipro, they joined with a flight delay due to being late , they missed training and as always it turned out that they wanted the best. well, it turned out that as always it turned out to be

cases and to a large extent most football players did not tied to the national teams, so well, even if the national team plays there, it was still possible to hold a tour, and the national team will play the national team in the first three matches on the 24th, 27th. will play this duel. if he wins, we will get to the euro 20-23 youth euro and our national team has a good chance to play in the european championship. well, then let's go according to the chronology, wednesday , warsaw, the legion stadium and shakhtar host celtic earlier. when they played constantly at home victories were exchanged. shakhtar won at home, a selfie also won at home, this time it happened, but after all, they played in poland, they played in warsaw, so it's almost a neutral field because, after all, we are a ukrainian team and we want to play on ukrainian fields, but now we are forced to play in poland, warsaw, shakhtar gathered more than 20,000

fans at this match, there was a lot of support from ukrainians, and we note. the debutant of the european cups, after all, there was such support, which mine did not have in this round, at the match of our teams, we celebrate mykhailo mudryka again, who distinguished himself with a productive action, who took advantage of a great pass from the depth from sudakov and scored a goal in response, they missed me at the very beginning and we see that according to the numbers, selfie was largely victorious and prevailed over shakhtar during the game, but again, we note that shakhtar has perhaps the youngest squad now, according to the latest features, if we are talking about the champions league, which also shakhtar and we note that the most experienced is taras stepanenko, who is 33 years old, and the others, that is, there is stepanenko, 26 with a shot of 26, all the others are younger, that is , in fact, the team of igor yuriyovych is too young now, and here, a priori, there can be no

stability, although shakhtar did not lose in two rounds, scored four points and now in the lead, the miners scored twice. artem bondarenko, unfortunately, was in a hurry to save the situation, but the ball was cut off by his own goal, although without him, there were two recipients from celtic . punched past in the same place the fact is that the fact that the ball flew into the plane, to a large extent, tsarev khataty scored, it's just that he clipped the ball there, but what is the difference between a ricochet and an own goal if the ball flew into the plane and caught it bondarenko, this is considered a ricochet, but for some reason they recorded an auto -goal. yes, there is no big difference, because the goal was conceded according to all the canons, according to the rules, he uh, they missed it . minutes to answer the results

i see a shot here, he is in principle a plane that we are guided by official uefa data, three days have already passed, they don't bother, and shakhtar did not start to enter into any discussion, so we celebrate. this is how the official protocol says that artem bondarenko's own goal and we celebrate the goal of mykhailo mudryka e- he scored against celtic. thus, he has already scored two goals in the champions league, two assists and now, after two rounds, he is the best in this tournament in the most prestigious world football tournament 2 + 2 for systems goal + pass mykhailo mudryk is now ahead of everyone who participates in the champions league there, including neymar , messi, holland and so on, and i just want to say that we have a vote on this very topic on youtube, but they say that this summer mudryk is a dovby gypsy, they were all sold all the clubs of the world, and we, the simple question will be the product and the gypsy team, who will first go to the top of the championship, these three options

, vote at the end of the program, we will summarize the following intermediate results and wise men, the dovbyk of the whole week shows that they are really ready for some top unfortunately, the championship with gypsykov did not work out, but we will talk about that later, well, here shakhtar should be noted that after all, uh, well, again, ihor yoyovych, we note that here the coach's hand and the coach's talent seem to be obvious, no matter what kind of person he is. we we will not discuss human qualities right now, we are still talking about professional football qualities and here we will pay tribute to evichi, he absolutely controls the training process, he absolutely controls the game process , he has a beautiful built model and despite the fact that kornienko is out again it seemed, well, that is, there are such extraordinary steps that he takes that are beneficial because if, for example, and we know that it is wise, well, now this is the top for the ukrainian championship for the ukrainian club, we understand that trubin is the same, that is, because he already has great experience and for several seasons, he played in the high league

at the championship level and was the main goalkeeper of the serbian side under castro, and now we note that cannabis is far from an obvious choice, because kornienko is injured, mykhailichenko is the next who should replace kornienko, who was taken as the main left defender, but we can see that this is exactly the coaching decision to put the right-handed yukhym kanoplia on the left wing and the second round in a row in the champions league. in defense, it is very useful to play on the attack, that is, it is here that we note and uh, the hemp that passed this test and the coaching decision that allows the miner to make the results and type the reference books, and it was this decision quite spontaneously, i asked after the shakhtar match, the movement when he transferred hemp during the match to the left. he says that he decided it just like that because, well, i know his virtues, they tried it and it works. he then scored a goal and secured a place for himself in the base for the next matches exactly on the left