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dima, as well as how these actions are reported, since the last time we looked at this trust was in august of last year, and there, too, everyone was in the negative at the anti-corruption bodies, it was a little better compared to the prosecutor's office, the courts, but... since we know that there was no head of the special and corruption prosecutor's office, the issue of the legitimacy of the head was also questioned. the ministry of internal affairs was more active in the information space, the policemen commented on something there, they took part in the opera, well, another question is why the police fled suma from kherson, there are people who defended their cities themselves, this is a big, high question , and this too. this is also an indicator of the fact that they did not act quite correctly in the first days, but hey, you see those
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bodies that do not have a leader, those bodies that are now out of earshot, they lose to those who are now more involved in the media space, that is, the trust rating he is also correlated with the rating of media recognition or presence in the media, it is easy to take into account that in trust is also formed by television people do not have prosperity with a good saying, just look at this background i am surprised by the trust in local authorities, which mayors, which village heads, which people see on places every day and they have a level of trust in the mayor of 36 percent well, anyway, for example, the executive power is now in the lead because we see them on tv, the heads of military administrations, and the president gives them his media a platform for them to perform, people saw them accordingly, people think that they trust them, they trust them if they see them so absolutely correctly trust has two genders, first of all
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, as i say - it works, it's what you do and how effective or successful are you doing it are you doing or are you making mistakes ? are you involved in any scandals, but the second is how your actions are covered, we know perfectly well that you can do everything well, but here is how in russia, so that oppositionists in russia can be formed from them into the image of enemies of the people by mass discredit campaign, that is, the role of the media remains important, i will not say that it is key, but it is very important to either form a positive or negative image of this or that social institution, the media has a huge responsibility, especially during a war, during such a crisis situation, mr. mr. well, in conclusion, i wanted to ask a how can the level of support for trust in the president be 71%, and the level of distrust in the government, which is formed by the president personally and the monomajority and which, in
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principle, was initiated by the parliament personally by the president -7 as maybe well, in principle, it is one and the same person. well, i think that denys shumil, even few people know his name, is the prime minister of ukraine, everyone knows that everything is zelenskyi's government. zelenskyi has plus 71, and his government has -7. how can that be ? to be, this only says that the president carries this power. yes , but uh, uh, there is a possibility of miscalculation. negative for the government but there is another the other side of the coin is when the government mistakes a now the key issue is the preparation for the winter heating period, we know that the press is already publishing that the scheme has gone nowhere, that there are attempts to continue abusing some pro-milliary funds, and everything can have a negative impact on the president if you to commit such actions or if
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government officials suspect him of corruption, this rating of trust in the government can drag and hit the president and the president should understand this. i think that the president's office also conducts its own survey and somewhere, well, it is not excluded that somewhere with the closest there will be changes in the government in order to correct this situation or at least correct it in the media space. thank you very much for this professional analysis - this is petro burkovsky, the executive director of the democratic initiatives foundation named after yaka kucherova, they did a poll regarding trust, people don't always think that the government is responsible for something or a specific ministry. this means that they give unprecedented trust, perhaps even to the credit of the president. and it can also be in some moment and sprinkle in accordance with the actions of the same government and the verkhovna rada and everything else, but the political parties we have the biggest anti-rating of trust - this is traditional and it is very bad because it
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means that even those political parties that can be drawn even if they are popular then people will not trust them because political parties create mistrust, we already have the next guest, so volodymyr volya, an international political scientist, will join mr. volodymyr we congratulate you good health if possible dmytro tuzhanskyy we also congratulate you institute of the center now. everyone in the meeting please, mr. volodymyrets, as for the results of the polls , that is, the ratings, as a professional sociologist, i can tell you that in the context it is meaningful for ukrainians such that they now support the president not so much as the head of the executive power as the commander-in -chief, thereby demonstrating consolidation their willingness to support ukraine to be all together, and all polls that will be held after the war will show completely different results because the semantic context will be different then already
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they will evaluate the lack of symbolism of this consolidation. and only for real practical matters. i'm sorry, thank you , mr. volodymyr. and this is support, negative, not support for political parties. how many are there -46 , the most, minus 55 - 55 rotations? as you said, there is no party here that the people would consider popular, all parties are of some kind. projects are not, not in projects, they are in the normal sense, that is why for people it is a negative sense, they have not justified in any way for 30 years the expectations of the people of dmytriov, well, you can comment. maybe these ratings are trusted trust the leader in our country, the president 71 and the anti-leader - these are the political parties, including that i understand the servant of the people personally well no personally not his personally and not by name as correctness well his party yes which he basically created from scratch minus 55 please i agree here with pyotr
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burkovsky that this phenomenon of a country at war is quite typical when there is incredible trust in the leader who did not betray, who leads, who is active , and well, you have to be disappointed in someone, somehow you are disappointed in the government, well, the party in power and the government that is, accordingly, you know the binary, and it works here too, well, it’s quite typical, in fact, there is nothing unique here. thank you, it’s interesting, but not all volunteer organizations are here either, as many as 70 , but 77% of volunteer organizations are trusted, so what is it after the national guard? but it is interesting that the civil service from emergency situations in second place 82% yesterday they had a holiday, so we congratulate and thank them and once again there were forestry workers, of course, there was also a rescuer yes well, let's move on to international politics with our guests
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volodymyr volya, dmytro tuzhanskyi will now join us , volodymyr, what is now the main thing in the focus of the international community ? suspected now all this is becoming uh um already receiving confirmation i have already said many times that i had suspicions that urban knew about the preparation of putin's war against ukraine at least in the summer of 2021 and here are all the conversations of orban's reasoning like what -e he will be with 2,000 to the authorities by the year 2060 and that hungary will become a net taxpayer to the european union and after that the european union will not be needed, it
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will collapse, i.e. all these things indicate that urban, by the way, he said that the war would be local if the european union had not introduced sanctions against russia. that is, these are yet another such elements that can be considered as evidence that urban actually knew about putin's preparations for a war against ukraine. perhaps he did not know about the scale, but as he has already said on previous occasions, it is obvious that -is urban is not so naive as not to understand that he is given cheap gas to bypass the territory of ukraine through hungary, so cheap that he looks competitive. i think that it was a payment or a prepayment of putin to orban for for him to take the position regarding the sanctions that he is currently taking and all these uh statements hmm can be considered as
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uh just retribution for this kindness for these gas contracts on the part of gorbat, therefore i think that the european union should now come closer before consideration of procedures where not to feed for the account of the funds of the largest taxpayers of the european union of this monster of a large state, as you know, the cuckoo lays eggs for other birds so that you feed them, and it turns out that the eggs of the putin cuckoo are now thrown in the european union in the european union at the expense of the european union this regime is getting stronger and stronger, and in the end he expects that the european union will collapse one day and they will do whatever they want there, so that president urban believes that the war in ukraine can last until 2030, that ukraine may lose a third or a half of its
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territory allows the disintegration of the european union in the next decade well, he said that he was fine if ukraine was not helped there, it would end quickly, mr. dmytro, so what next , what is orban counting on, what this is the money they need from the european union, russia for them until they continue to throw up and throw up yesterday the european commission said that minus 7.5 billion they are now considering the issue of no deficit about what to cancel cancel the provision of 7.5 billion to hungary and under orban, i remembered yes mr. dimytriv mentioned a ukrainian proverb. maybe they are not very appropriate. but it seems to me that it is appropriate to say that the proverb says the horse is forged and the frog puts its paw . this seems to me to be about orban. they should not be confused with money. hungary can lose e.e. under the
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new procedure, this is when this is the procedure of the so-called rouloflop, the rule of law and when e. the rule of law. that is, it is corruption, tender procedures, and so on, because of this criterion of theft , including because of this criterion, hungary can not currently and has been there for the last year and a half, it cannot dispose of five and seven billion euros, this is the so -called post-covid recovery package and hungary is the only country that has not made progress. nina's step in agreeing to this package. poland has already agreed to it. there are some technical aspects of why they are draining the funds. the peculiarity of hungary is that it can lose these funds altogether, you know. that is we are already running out of time for using the package, that is, or something needs to be changed there. 7.5 billion are new possible sanctions, possible losses within the framework of the new
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monetary program in the european union, and again, they are related to the same procedure, i.e., non -compliance with hungary's legislation on corruption, tender procedures, transparency, this is one of the decisions announced by the hungarian government, they will create a new or another anti-corruption agency, that is, the ukrainian context is very much like this, it is necessary to understand what these proportions are in general budget until 2027, hungary should receive 22 billion euros from the eu, we are talking about at least a third that hungary will lose, and maybe even half if we also take the package. that is, this is serious money that no one will be able to compensate russia. well, theoretically , but now russia is not in a position to she compensated hungary for something. moreover, she herself ca n't handle it. just one example, in fact, with this russian compensation money, in
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hungary there is such a project of a nuclear power plant in paksh, which was approved in 2014, uh, and already even viktor orbana's associate petersier said somewhere that my child was already born after we signed the contract and she went to school , and nina's nuclear power plant has not moved forward. that is, you all know this kind of virtual money . co-faithful with the money of the european union and viktor roman will fight for them. well, not as publicly as he makes these scandalous statements, he will convince behind the scenes . no, no, we are still a democracy. let's go on and on and on, but he doesn't have much time. he has to do it all there by november. i wanted to talk about something more relevant, if you, ms. valevska, still have any questions about it. i wanted to talk about the southern ukrainian nuclear power plant. volodymyr zelenskyi published literally a few minutes ago a video of the moment of shelling of the southern ukrainian nuclear power plant. the
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president emphasized that russia endangers the entire the world is possible, now we will show you this video , here it is, uh, he called, called to stop russia zelensky, which is endangering the whole world by shelling ukrainian nuclear facilities , he made public the moment of the missile launch on the telegram channel shelling at night, 300 m from the southern ukrainian nuclear power plant, a russian missile flew in, there was a short-term disconnection of power lines in buildings in the territory with damaged about 100 windows, the occupiers wanted to shoot again, wrote the president, but they forgot what a nuclear power plant is, russia is endangering the whole world, we must stop it before it is too late well , in short, mr. volodymyr, here is this, these shellings of the southern ukrainian nuclear power plant, can they change the operation of world politics and the attitude towards the russian regime on the part of those countries that have not yet decided, we see these votes at the un, in particular , there regarding granting president zelensky the right
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to speak via the internet, will it change eh? i read that the un allowed president zelensky to record a video and address, he abstained from this vote during his time when they voted for link to the video of the video message e-e will direct our president there regarding e-e with another shelling, but i do not think that this will radically change the world configuration regarding russia and nuclear energy, but we can say that it is a shift after all they will be small, at the same time, i am not surprised by this shelling, because many people are probably not surprised after putin's words that we warned with strikes on the infrastructure , so i think that the shelling is close to the fall of russian missiles near the southern ukrainian nuclear plant, they are demonstrating that the
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warnings from russia, so to speak, are getting stuck in the teeth, and really something needs to be done here , um, uh, more seriously, in order to stop putin. mr. dmytro, they are used to the fact that they fired at the nuclear power plant, well, the nuclear power plant works as usual and informs energoatom in principle. well, i would say that if i had said this six months ago, well, it was the top news of all the news agents of the world. it is certain that there is a medium-range missile there, 5,000 km fired at the nuclear plant and now the world is probably already preparing for the ukrainian war, please don't think if you even look at what this one of the ideologues of this zed special operation said, this tymofiy sergeitsev who wrote this column on ria news about how ukrainians should be killed
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and destroyed. a year or two before the invasion, he showed a map of europe, including ukraine, with points with nuclear power plants, and he threatened so much that the west thinks that they are on this map, we have enough water from these points to hit and hit, that is. in my opinion, anyway, well, russia, if it weren't for the fact that she is somehow playing against herself there, you know, this is the beginning of suicide, the only problem here is how to influence her. that is, everyone already perfectly understands, well , like what this is modern russia and you know that it is impossible to get used to such a russia, the question here is how to find a solution with such a russia, that is, how to protect the world from not just a disaster with such a russia, but also disasters that such a russia can cause, here is the key problem to find a solution, thank you very much, sir, for this analysis
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volodymyr volya, an international political scientist, and dmytro tuzhanskyi, the director of the institute of central european strategy, was also with us. of the ukrainian association of china studies connoisseurs olesya we welcome you there, some chinese training has started on the territory of russia. what do you know about this? what does it mean? these were trainings east of 222 and in principle there is just a video that chinese equipment is going to the territory of russia and they are already training. chinese troops are already being withdrawn from the territory of the russian exercise. yes, this is a joint exercise. yes, it was a joint exercise. they took place in the far east, in the coastal region of russia . about 2,000 chinese soldiers from
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equipment with e-e there with armored personnel carriers with other inclusive chinese well it was planned participation in these exercises, some significant issues were considered there support, let's say military russia and india also participated there such an unexpected joint participation in india china what are some possible scenarios like me what scenarios are they waiting for , they worked out, in fact, they were staff staff maneuvers, in particular there, they would work out the coordination between the military of different countries, really there, than in ukraine or lviv there there were several countries and they, in principle, well, this is not the first such training and they stated very clearly that these trainings are not related to the situation in ukraine and they, i say, they were preparing in advance and they did not have in mind
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any kind of threat to a third country. that is, it is more likely to work out some threats , more likely from the asian region. please tell us, olesya, how you evaluate the last meeting within the framework of the shanghai cooperation organization or cooperation in the ukrainian language, which took place in samarkand in uzbekistan, where the leader came to china, to everyone, xi jinping, the russian president, also the leaders of azerbaijan, kazakhstan, well, to all the participants , i will remind you that something includes uzbekistan, who is there, and india, kyrgyzstan, russia, even iran , the iranian flag would let me correct you now, kazakhstan, uzbekistan and tunisia, the tunisian flag . yes, i see it and it is interesting that at this meeting the leader
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of china refused pakistan. a chinese mask during a meeting with zimpin, they said that belarusian masks are not suitable, it is necessary to wear chinese ones, so that lukashenko does not infect anyone with his alleged disease , general consequences and general results, your assessment please, well, this is really important, the meeting is spreading, this organization we know that belarus declares his desire to join this organization although it unites mainly asian countries, but even in shock there is a certain competition between russia and china because china considers this organization as
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a truly organization of greater economic cooperation, russia always wanted to turn it into more of an association that would deal with its military-political and, let's say, security issues, but let's say that russia failed to steal this organization, and china demonstrated during this meeting his greater strength, let's say now, in the region, that is, he just zaidepin stated that he is acting, he supported, say , kazakhstan and uzbekistan and other countries in that concerns territorial integrity and independence, this is precisely against the background of recent statements in russia that it is dissatisfied with the behavior of kazakhstan, for example, and the meetings with putin. what is actually important at this meeting was that both the indian prime minister and the president of china, for example, expressed to putin their i would like to say
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my dissatisfaction with what he is doing in ukraine, because the war in ukraine really creates threats for these countries, that is, it interferes with their economic and social development, i.e. and they stated this directly to putin and this well, this is actually very important because before they did not speak so frankly with putin after this putin's positions themselves will change and somehow it will translate into some consequences there somewhere refusal to cooperate with something putin understands russia as itself behaves if something happens that does not satisfy her, she immediately starts talking about the fact that it was not some unimportant meeting that it was that it was not, well, for example, no agreements of any kind were concluded between these john pins and putin, and therefore russia if says that it was not an important meeting because, well
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, it means nothing to them, although such a signal is very important. i think it is still important, it was done by china. i do not think that russia will somehow adjust its policy. but i think that russia clearly understood that china will not provide it with the kind of support that the russians expected from it, and this has already been demonstrated many times by china, that is, china, let's say, buys russian energy sources cheaply, instead of the support that it expected, for example, in the financial sphere and in the field i will say that he did not provide support for technological china to russia, for sure. and what was erdoğan doing at this meeting ? he said that membership in the highway , turkey also wants to enter there, will allow to bring the relations of turkey and something to a completely different
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level . the prime minister of india, yak, also met putin personally and said that war is not what the world is waiting for, the world is waiting for peace, your assessment, well , with turkey, with turkey, i can say such an important factor that it is turkey that is a substitute for russia in the logistics supply chain of chinese goods to europe, and that is why turkey is important in principle, that is, now china is breaking through another route just through central asia, through the caspian sea, through turkey, through transcarpathia, to europe in order to actually replace russia, because russia, uh, well, if it created unacceptable conditions in order for china to continue to supply its, well, by railways, we mean
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goods to europe, although, well, all the same, more goods go by sea, and this is not, well, these are the key channels, let's say the trade channels supplies from china, in return, turkey is also very interested in its position in central asia. after all, all the countries of central asia, they are also united with turkey culturally and linguistically, that is, turkey does not want to deprive its own, let's say , presence in relation to india also has such a strange relationship with russia because, in fact, india also buys cheap russian oil and gas, that is, we took advantage of this situation when russia is looking for
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substitutes, but as we see, that is, india even with this will not support russia in its foreign policy actions, although russia also counted on india for some more active support, but as we can see, i say india and china , they expressed their claims because they interfere with russia's actions they will continue to develop and affect the economy, oleksiy, and you don’t understand. this is such an important representative meeting, after all, in fact, the leaders of the two most numerous countries, at least in terms of population, are coming to samarkand. there are also representatives of turkey, a nato country, which is there . a candidate for the european union as the leader of pakistan as a possible legitimization of vladimir putin well, i think that he was very pleased to come and visit such
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a friendly atmosphere in such a representative meeting, this is not the legitimization of the aggressor, the murderer of the leader of russia. what do you think, well , we saw that, for example, not came to dinner with putin when was this summit instead of zerdagan. for example, we know that putin has such a specific relationship, erdogan still tries to really lead putin into some kind of loboditic let's say common people and i will tell some organizations to organize him some international, but you understand , for example, in central asia, and putin has strained relations with the leaders of central asia , because we saw, for example, that the leader of kazakhstan, who directly to putin's face at the st. petersburg forum, said that he does not support the operation and does not alden will admit that the so-called republics are separatist, that is, there are very difficult
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relations here, and i say that the russian press does not comment on this visit as some kind of diplomatic victory putin, on the contrary, was rather openly shown there what kind of attitude there is towards him and it has really changed. there were no, let's say , he did not find support there from his sincere supporters. well, i will say that it is important that the leader of china all zinc said that his country will actually guarantee the territorial integrity and the independence of kazakhstan, this was said precisely in samarkand and this is an important statement because some russian propagandists and non-propagandists will open here the former president and prime minister of russia dmytro medveeva wrote that northern kazakhstan is the origin of the russian lands and even the capital of kazakhstan was once called the city of the brave or what was the name of almaty. now i will remember

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