a large part of the population in relation to politicians, we see a transformation even in germany, we see that it is someone who says that we should develop from russia, we will better see macrons who say that we will revive nuclear energy because it is necessary, we are not talking about the purchase of new russian fuel, we are only talking about finding an alternative i.e. it is difficult for me to say from an economic point of view because there are no data yet, because the budget year is just about to begin, but in reality, in terms of information, europeans are transitioning to a much better state of europeans they understand that the future without russia, their energy and security is not even a question. simply benefiting is really a matter of security, and this transition already makes me rather optimistic about the fact that europe will go through this winter hard, but it will pass anyway and this winter will be the winter of cleansing from russian influence and let's clean up not only in winter, but also with our weapons with our guns with our shells with the help of our military personnel well, the last

question for you today, mr. oleksandr, what is the strength and value of ukrainian democracy which is being hardened right now by the war. here i will even quote russula fürderlein that ukraine is with us right now, the name of europe in essence, ukraine itself is now the healing of what we call european values, we are ready with our lives, our work , our time, with our whole being to defend freedom of speech democracy, free markets, human rights, the rule of law and the rule of law. we stand for what europe has always been and before. of the european castle and it depends on whether we abstain in many respects whether europe itself is supported intellectually and civilizationally and therefore control of ukraine the role of our democracy it is simply of primary importance for this european project this was not the last question because i had another e- after you answered

, please tell me, and that's all you said , only ursula funderlian, charles michel roberta matzola and the leaders of european countries understand it . if you look at it now, well, i have to i have to look at twitter and i have to read groups and i have to read their blogs, it's bigger and more people understand it, that is, they approach the question and why is ukraine so important? it's a pity, you can't say that everyone supports us and we are so kind, cool, but the victory of the armed forces and the work of the informational diplomatic front make it possible so that finally all 100% of the citizens of the european union understood this god grant that they understand. thank you very much, mr. oleksandr, for the very good answers to the questions. i will remind you. it was oleksandr kraev, an expert of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma. well, my next guest is ihor semevoloz, director of the center for

middle eastern studies. a-a i congratulate you, mr. igor, i congratulate you, i am glad to hear from you. i am also very glad to hear from you. well, you are the person who will definitely help me. personally, i am sure that my viewers will understand what is happening now on caucasus, azerbaijan, armenia, mr. ihor, please tell me how it all started. and why did azerbaijan attack the sovereign territory of armenia ? why? in the 20th year after armenia was defeated as a result of the second carpathian war and this tripartite statement was first concluded,

then a tripartite agreement was concluded, which accordingly determined the procedure for the settlement of relations between the two countries within the framework of this tripartite agreement and the clauses of this agreement provided for the unblocking of transport arteries, the negotiation process and the definition of borders between the two countries, and the creation of the so-called zangeziv corridor. that is, this is what is called mirror logic when there is an alchevsk corridor that provides transport the connection between armenia and the territories of karabakh is controlled by the russian military and inhabited by armenians. and this lych corridor is not controlled by azerbaijan well, in principle, it was assumed that a corridor would be created from zemizor, which would connect

western azerbaijan with food, and which would also not be controlled by armenia, but would be purchased under the control of the fsb. such was the logic of the logic of these events. there was something wrong with this, in this agreement there was no status of karabakh, that is, karabakh was not determined in any way what was happening, what will happen to those territories that are not under the control of the russian troops. only the size of the russian troops was stationed there. it is clear that in two years after that after this agreement, a-a, there was a certain certain feeling that someone is introducing someone instead of a-a, because uh, um , in most cases, armenia imitated as if efforts and essentially no changes took place, that is, no breakthrough, but instead, the

armenians did, and that’s all more and more, there was a feeling that it was possible to postpone any final decisions as much as possible in this way , taking into account the fact that the situation could radically change and it is possible, let's say, to implement some kind of revanchist intentions to return these territories due to another war, but azerbaijan and its strategy did not allow the armenians to do this, and the battles on the border that we are observing. this is not the first clash on the border , it just shows that azerbaijan is, in fact, forcing armenia to make peace on the terms of azerbaijan, if so very briefly about the current situation. and why did russia

openly abandon armenia in this case, and why the dcp now? well, to say that the dcp is passive is to say nothing at all, the otcp is generally inactive. well, what dead cannot die i.e. here in this sense i think that the words of er slogans of one of the characters of er game of thrones would be untrue but er i am here er regarding russia here there are such considerations the matter is that russia has whom azerbaijan is very much needed, and russia has been lacking for 10 years, moscow has taken certain steps to meet each other, and the russians have a feeling that they can , in principle, engage in such brokerage, and they will be able to tie the conflict to itself and azerbaijan and armenia, well, armenia in principle

well, i was under such tight control of the russians. and what had to be done for this? well, it was necessary to become azerbaijan's hope that it is russia that can solve the karabakh issue after the 14th year, and azerbaijan saw what it was worth to bet on russia it doesn't make sense and they switched to the union of turkey. this union turned out to be successful precisely as a result of this cooperation, er, azerbaijan eventually liberated more of the territory and er, turkey settled in this region. but er, russia continued this trend, that is they did not change, they wished that the conduct of russian troops on the territory of azerbaijan strengthens their position, and the key issue is to stay on this territory as long as possible, that is, to extend

the period of stay of russian troops. i will remind you that according to the tripartite agreement, the russians can arrive until the year, and after that their stay there should be reconfirmed, and azerbaijan freely tries to minimize the presence of the russians, on the contrary, the russians are trying to increase their presence, therefore, they they cannot simply take it and say and create a situation in which azerbaijan is clearly turning into an enemy, that is why a unique opportunity has been created for azerbaijan, and using these weaknesses and intentions of russia, they are putting pressure on armenia. because, at least, russia has weakened in the war with

ukraine, and secondly, it is afraid of losing the benefits of its cooperation with azerbaijan, and there is also the issue of iran and many other things . that's how this situation can be resolved, well, at least in the near future, in such a quadrangle , in such a square, azerbaijan, armenia, russia, the united states and turkey because, as we know, a few days ago, trust me, the speaker of the lower house of the american congress, the house of representatives, nancy pilososi, came to me. she expressed her full support for the united states, which supports armenia russia supports and er, turkey supports azerbaijan, but in this square, how can it all be resolved, because it seems to me that you know yes, sorry for the boy's mind it seems to me that this is not an attempt to solve the situation , but an attempt to confuse it even more. it is quite

confused. i think that she should fulfill her role, and she needs you on the eve of the elections. and i understand that the support of the armenian of the electorate in the united states of america is an important component for her, so i actually consider her visit in this context rather than a change in the policy of the united states of america. of the other side, although there are signs that they are dissatisfied with the politics of azerbaijan. well, let's say that the most recent such demarch was when the ambassadors of france and the united states of america did not go if

the show was such a visit of various epos the city was released and also sound in principle. well, he was appointed by the united states of america as a special envoy for matters related to the regulation of karbakh, but at least he was reformatted as a special envoy within the framework of the south caucasus. well, formally, he is there in the minsk group it seems that dezerbaijan has, as you know, actively opposes the continuation of the activities of the minsk group all over nagorno-karabakh. so, on the one hand, it is true, that is, there are some such hands, but, uh, the united states of america is now, at least officially, not taking any, as i said, human steps europe , on the other hand, is quite active now, and it is trying to act as a facilitator, and it seems to it that the role of

europe and the activity of europe causes serious irritation on the part of moscow, and i think that this shows precisely that europe can occupy a very interesting role is an important role, and europe is not equal to france. to be clear, europe has its own interests, so to speak, in brussels, and it is obvious that the strengthening of the role of europe can be such an important and interesting element that can introduce additional intrigue into this region. and yes, of course, if we talk about in the future, there are not so many options, or further stagnation of armenia and increasing pressure from azerbaijan. armenia is unlikely to be able to respond with anything. russia will also not be able to resist pressure from azerbaijan, that is,

they will be forced to accept somehow one way or another, according to the demands of azerbaijan or armenia, it takes a more similar position of understanding that this is a dead end and it is necessary to establish a new round, a new round of negotiations, new new relations with the neighbors, that is, without this, it is hardly possible to move this conflict from its place. well, and the issue of karabakh, that is, the armenian population, must be resolved, because it is clear that they will not receive the status of independent or autonomous, which means that they are armenians of karabakh or should receive full azerbaijani citizenship and become full-fledged citizens of azerbaijan , or we need to resolve the issue of their

resettlement. i think there are simply no other options in order to close this page. thank you, mr. igor. thank you for untangling such a tangled tangle. i will remind igor samovolos, director of the center for middle eastern research. well, that's it. the program "the world during the war" is ending, but my work on the air is not ending, as i already announced at the beginning of this program in great britain in particular, in london, a farewell and a funeral are going on, and with the queen of great britain and northern ireland, elizabeth the second, right now at 12:45, these ceremonial events begin at 12:45, obviously according to kyiv time in great britain, it is already 10:45, right now, as you can see e 142 e-e sailors

lined up in order to introduce e-e mm-m carriage with a coffin with the body of queen elizabeth the second and from the windsor there is a hard hall in which she was from wednesday and where everyone could say goodbye to her in a-a citizens of great britain as well guests of the country, as well as from other overseas territories , so the carriage with the coffin is now being transported from the windsor hall to the westminster passage to the westminster abbey. there i looked at the map there, well, it’s not much to go. literally in 15 minutes , they should already be there, and that’s the whole westminster abbey already and the funeral service for the queen of great britain will begin. well

, today is a very, very active day in london, after the funeral service, the coffin and the body must be transported to hyde park from hyde park somewhere about 20 km they have to take her outside of london to the widodo-winsow castle. by the way, the winsor castle was loved by british kings, and the great queen of great britain will find her last resting place right on the territory of the winsor castle in the chapel of st. george. well, for the people of lviv, it would be more convenient to say and the more usual chapel of st. george, so there it is, 20 km somewhere approximately west of london , this one will be in the process of going, it will be from later, because, as i said, all these ceremonial events are stretched out for a very long time, for the whole day, well, now we can see how this carriage. and by the way, this carriage was used only once in 1952. it was

on it that the coffin with the father of the late queen and with king george and the table of king george vi lay on it, and here she waited, waited 70, well, a little 70 years, in order to then introduce the coffin with the body is already his daughter's, and uh, now they are heading to westminster abbey , representatives of many countries of the world have already gathered there, i mean high-ranking representatives, the president of the united states, joe biden with his wife jill , uh, the monarch, members of royal families from many other countries countries of the world are already there waiting for this funeral procession and the funeral service itself, as i said, will begin at 1:00 p.m. kyiv time in london,

it will be only 11 well, let's say a few words about the queen of great britain herself, by the way, who among you watched er from the beginning of my broadcast and when i talked with oleksandr kraevy, i asked him my first question was to him why a-a in lon- in great britain and why a-a in lon- in great britain such respect for the self such love, some even unnatural love for elizabeth ii herself and to uh, um, she is the institution of the monarchy, so he said that in uh, in great britain, the monarch symbolizes stability for the nation and stability for the people, it was symbolized by queen elizabeth ii - it was symbolized by her father, in one word, all monarchs. everything that this will symbolize and embody and her son is already the current king of great britain and northern ireland,

charles is the third, so princess elizabeth alexandra mary was born on april 21, 1926 in the family of prince albert, the duke of york, and here i am i just want to say two words about the fact that, if you look at the whole situation, there is quite a chance to become queen elizabeth the second queen. well, it is small , but tiny, because, look, her father, prince albert, was the king. he took the name george the sixth. although, as we can see everyone called him albert, and kings have four names, for example, the current king has four names, and he took the one that everyone knows him as prince charles and the father of elizabeth ii, and everyone called him prince albert, but when he was enthroned he decided that it is better when he will be called exactly one of the other names, namely george, and he was the principle george the sixth

, so he was not the first in line for the throne because he had an older brother and his older brother edward the eighth was such a king, but at some point edward the eighth uh, abdicated his grix because he married a simple person, well, simply abdicated the throne and thus uh, albert became king george the sixth and thus queen elizabeth ii became the heir to the throne. well, by the way, her father died, well, in at such an early age, i said so, he died of thrombosis ah in 1952, then elizabeth was only 26 years old, she was already married, but she was quite young. by the way, in childhood, the future queen called herself lilibet, after which everyone

in the world and they knew that their young years were spent in education and youth performances. by the way, do you remember how a few days ago everyone laughed at the fact that masha zakharova, the spokeswoman for the ministry of foreign affairs of our northeastern region, to the great regret of her neighbor, said that we would be the queen of great britain elizabeth ii once in her youth served in the national defense everyone laughed laughed laughed but it really happened she served in the national defense maybe that's not what it was called in 1945 she was able to persuade her father to help her or rather allowed her to help speed up the er victory of nazi germany and she joined and now i'll read to you what it's called the auxiliary territorial service it's such women's

self-defense units er she was known as number 23:0873 lieutenant elizabeth windsor she learned to drive trained as a mechanic, a driver of an ambulance , receiving the military rank of lieutenant, and her military service lasted five months. well, this was the first time in the history of the royal family when a woman served in a military unit, we can already see how on our screens the procession moves slowly to westminster abbey where literally in 7 minutes the funeral service for the queen of great britain and northern ireland and elizabeth is to be held. you see now on the coffin there is a crown with a scepter and a state and that's today in the evening at approximately 9:00 and even a little later

than 9:00 kyiv time, when she will be buried in the chapel of st. george in windsor, on the territory of windsor castle, the crown will be taken away, the skeptic will be taken away, and then the lord chamberlain will be taken away, hmm has as far as i understand just break his utensils with which he always walked will break the staff and in this way it will symbolize that the queen is buried she will find her rest in god and the new king charles well actually not the new king already the current king of great britain and northern ireland, charles iii will already become the official coruler, now some movement is happening, they are probably getting closer to the whole

mister abbey because, as i told you from the messence from west, in the ministerial cold, the abbey is very, very and very little there, literally a few hundred meters and that's all well and by the way, you probably all already know that queen elizabeth ii of great britain ruled the longest of all monarchs , 70 years. it's hard to imagine, but during her reign, 15 prime ministers changed in the country from winston churchill to listras and literally listras , she accepted and appointed the head of the british government literally a few days before her death. well, by the way, as i said, she is the first queen who served as a representative of our family, who served in the army, and now how

we hear it, it's the funeral bells, which probably indicate that, well, we can see that, most likely, she has already been driven to the whole monastery and now the military will carry the coffin with the body to the cathedral, where the funeral service will be held elizaveta was an interesting person to me. during her life, she did a lot. a lot went unnoticed because she was often called the silent elizabeth. she didn't like giving interviews. but nevertheless, she did a lot, she did a lot for her country, she did a lot for of the world and she was even remembered as a

friend of ukraine, but according to the royal rules, the british monarchs of his family cannot speak directly about political events, but still queen elizabeth ii of great britain still in in 2014, when uh, russia took away illegally annexed although how can it be illegally annexed annexed crimea already then the queen of great britain expressed support expressed support for ukraine uh, she defended the constant spoke in defense of our sovereignty uh, in 2014 she said now the quote great britain will work for peace and security on the borders of europe, and in europe, as well as for stable relations between russia and ukraine based on respect for national sovereignty , territorial integrity and international law. well

why is the coffin with the body of elizabeth ii brought to westminster abbey? and by the way, also about the attitude of queen elizabeth ii towards ukraine in the first days of march, when the full-scale war in ukraine was just unfolding. elizabeth ii made two symbolic gestures in support of ukraine, first of all she made a generous donation of personal funds of the emergency committee in britain that helps ukrainian refugees well, this became a good signal to the whole world that ukrainian refugees and ours and they need protection in the same month, er, in the photo from the audience with canadian prime minister justin trydon, on the table next to her majesty there was a vase with a

composition . of ukraine and its defenders, but now i will help complete us for a little literally a minute, anyway, otherwise, i’m fine

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