for what it can and should be under new historical conditions, so we can only wait and see how all this will develop because, as i said in our previous conversation, actually speaking, this is a general opinion that is shared by all ukrainian observers, the british monarchy is a living organism that will develop as a living human organism, it will grow and it will become stronger and better, let's say, but in completely different directions. well, let's hope that king charles the third or carlos the third like you they just said in ukrainian that he will be able to avoid scandals already on the throne, as it was with elizabeth ii. thank you , mr. voice, for your story, for your comments, for

those details. it was interesting to hear oleskovych, the british correspondent of radio svoboda, but what’s interesting is that i’m watching comments from ukrainians under the broadcast. of course there are some kremlin bots, but none the less. here, too, when there is a farewell ceremony for the british queen, they talk about such a secret russian queen, pugacheva. all the same, ukrainians are drawn to look hmm there in the other direction, so that it doesn't happen in the world, i wonder if this trend will change after we end , god willing, this war and end it with a victory, there are a lot of people and people, after all, well, they say that's what they call surrests may the queen rest in peace and her majesty's memory be eternal. well, here

they mention a little bit, and the russian roman lukash wrote one poutka, they didn't invite the poor little one. well, i think the poutkas are not up to that now, putin has more... it 's a small company and not dusty either, so that's it i think that maybe he is drinking seagulls with them somewhere , er, who knows him, or seagulls, or what was brewed in the samovar? well, we are moving on, volodymyr dubovyk, director of the center of international studies, to the center of the department of international relations of the odessa national university named after mechnikov, is with us in touch, mr. volodymyr, have a good day. good day. i congratulate you. to be honest, i don't have time to monitor the farewell ceremony, because i have to monitor something else to work. this is one such event. the leaders of the states will meet from september 20 to 26

it will be a high-level week. and actually there they expect volodymyr zelensky to speak in the remote format of the un general assembly. why did those who were not invited to the farewell ceremony with the queen of great britain try to prevent them? why did they care so much about sticking sticks anyway? and this remote speech did not happen. well i don't know, it's just such an effort, once again, something bad is done to us, to put some sticks in the wheels , why is there such attention to ukraine, and why do you listen to us , they don't listen to ukraine, what if we said now give putin the services of a remote, they would probably say why yes but zelensky can a-a as nebenzi says and he moves around the country why can they be lazy although they perfectly understand the difference between going to esium, let's say to our president, or flying to new york

there is a large-scale war on the part of russia. that is why this is an attempt to transfer the healthy from the sick to the healthy, so they say, it seems to annoy the little ones. you see, they ended up almost in my house. well, it is not that the minority is almost in complete isolation, because there are only such the countries are wonderful, how can i see seven more countries in particular , russia, that is, russia plus six only proposed against it yes, they voted against it, and that’s why it’s only and why do you do that at all? it’s important not because they will make some decisions in our favor and somehow actively intervene . to help ukraine, but because they are still an important global platform for discussing current world issues, in particular, russian aggression against ukraine, and every time russia finds itself in a minority there or in complete isolation, even though it blocks if not

a member of the security council, the most important decision that could be in our favor. all the same. this is for our diplomacy, for our image, for our promotion of our people, that is, how we explain what is happening in this war . with her conclusions to what extent the personal authority of russia and putin has fallen and why can you say that yes, i would think that samarkand is a very bad sign for putin although i would not exaggerate the fact that they even say that he is not a fashionista, let's say the indian leader, er, said that right there, er, well , very badly, i howled and howled at putin. no, he said everything very carefully, he said that now is not the time for war and that i told you about this on the phone more than once, and stopped at that, that is he didn't say that you didn't listen to me and didn't stop this war, but the motivation is exactly the same with exactly the same yes

, the signal from the indian leader from the chinese is also more or less the same, only i am surprised that, you see , putin for some reason decided to say what he heard to bark to itself and from indian and chinese of the leader why did he do it publicly i don't know personally i could not say about it but you see he admits and that he is asked uncomfortable questions yes as for china, it is clear , more or less, because he went to china until february 24 not long before that and he probably said that there would be an operation against ukraine, but he promised a quick such cosmetic surgical operation, we will go in quickly , we will solve the issue, we will leave shortly, the war will not last long. the markets fluctuate, the price of naftogaz there and so on, because of which china as a large economic country

suffers and china as a state is tied to russia to a certain extent, and this also harms their reputation for them, because they try to say that we are for the right , we are against war, and so on. here in russia there are such factors , they seem to be on holiday, china is like this, moscow is calm and this is what worries him to a certain extent and they do not want to be subject to american and european sanctions, so they expressed themselves, but even look , not even what is fashionable there, or even such the leaders of central asia and kazakhstan demonstrated to putin as well. this is of course very painful for him because he is a person who is used to it. besides , they almost adore him. such well, material for reflection and self-reflection, such we will return to the muscovite

, something is really wrong with this war in ukraine and we must probably think about what to do next, or further escalation or really stop this war, since even those who, as they say, are at the gate looked at putin today, he doesn’t do that at all well, he wasn’t in the center of the company when everyone is standing around and looking at him there, how does it happen , someone takes all the attention to himself, tells some funny or not funny jokes, and the others laugh at them because he is so important that even those unfunny jokes will be laughed at. but is putin one of those people, er, or even not so, i will say that putin is definitely not one of those people who thinks about such things at home, i don’t know, before going to bed, but he reflects them with his secret wife and will say maybe i should do something and still admit that i was wrong and cancel this special

operation because it harms both me and my country as well as our people and finally i want to make russia better for real and not as i thought before that's why you shouldn't expect a responsible adult decision from him. and this is another decision of a child who was insulted publicly and publicly by those who shouldn't have offended me . what is she to us? what is she to us? he he does this all the time, well, will he really return to a more familiar format, because he was usually a more or less rational player and calculated some steps in advance, but now with this war, he certainly did not do that, and now he is slowly thinking about it, he understands, and he understands that we need to do something or take revenge on everyone now we don’t have the strength for it

or er, we don’t have the strength to do some kind of escalation with regard to ukraine, so you can fire missiles at our infrastructure and power plants there , that is, harm ukraine and destroy ukraine, they are that they are doing and i think that in the near future they will continue to do this, but seriously continue the offensive, they cannot capture even the whole of donbas, i cannot hold kherson oblast, maybe, maybe, but maybe for some time, and this is a problem for crimea, so there are very serious problems regarding the escalation of the use of nuclear weapons. well, it is almost impossible and will not give anything because ukraine will still not resign, will not kneel down, but the world will be even more offended by russia and will do even more harm to it by imposing even more sanctions and so on, so we actually need to look for some kind of format exit eh alyapuraska, but do not frame it as a defeat, well, of course, for the russian consumer. of

course, in any case, it will look like that well, we have achieved the goal, and we have always said this about the donbass, the greater part of the donbass is in our hands for now, at least, but for to the world, it will be clear to ukraine that russia has been defeated, this is a problem for putin, of course. but you already know this is a problem for the elite, because for the last 20 years, the russian elite is putin. and now the situation may change, because there are other people who understand that the national the state interests of russia they are ported even now by what putin did on february 24, although i warn him . by the way, they tried to stop it, and even people surrounded him, even mr. cossack said the president, let's stop the war, because you see, kyiv says that they will make a corresponding statement that they don't go there, membership in nato and so on, but putin said no, no, this already large-scale spain with a format that suits him, but does it suit

us because, let's say, donbass and crimea remain within russia, not a fact, it would probably be for putin today is already enough. to be honest, it is absolutely unacceptable for us, so again, i still do not see the moment at which kyivmosplatu can meet and you can stop it so that it satisfies both sides, therefore, unfortunately, i think that we will continue to fight for a while while russia still will not weaken, although it is clear that this war is very important and very difficult, very difficult for us, because we are also losing people and losing resources, and i would like to stop it as soon as possible, but not on russia's terms, what if russia, which is now losing because of the statement in many military analysts lose the strategic initiative at the front, on the battlefield they will try to seize the strategic initiative precisely on the diplomatic field, for example in our country. having unanimously announced that it will cease fire and

announce a cease-fire and initiate peace negotiations. a very good question. i think that you cannot do this and try to change the nature of the discourse of one discussion around this whole war in the world, because many people who are oriented towards russia perceive it with sympathy or have some distrust, say, of nato, the eu, america er, they can say yes, well, you see, russia now wants peace and is moving towards peace and offers negotiations, a ceasefire, and so on. and why a deal that does not correspond to reciprocity? as they say , that is, it does not agree to such negotiations, it will be a dangerous moment for us yes, because so far we have always said that those who blame it should finish it, i.e. russia, and therefore we can do nothing except to protect our territory, our sovereignty and territorial integrity, but who will

russia change the rules of the game a little and say see we offer to stop it advantageously but kyiv does not agree to this and russia will say why because we are not allowed by their conditions yes, but for the world this will be such a dangerous moment for us and our allies that is why it will be very important for our diplomacy to show our allies in the world and further that it is impossible to end the war on the terms proposed by putin, because it will satisfy the aggressor, it will mean precedents, it will mean a dangerous president for the whole world that if more powerful countries will attack their neighbors, and then at some stage say, well , let's settle on our terms right now, then this is not the option that should satisfy in the modern world, and if we are talking about some norms of international law of the same order and so on, but i completely understand your question, it will be a certain mirochka for our information and to our

allies when russia may in the near future make such accusations in order to see that we are headed for peace, but they do not hear us, they want to continue fighting and then there will already be some pressure and pressing already to ukraine yes, but what do you need to prepare for this, explain your position, well, before russia started this special operation, she talked about the fact that she was starting it in order to protect herself or herself after such statements and after all that when russia tells us that it is not her that they are shelling only military objects in order to protect civilians, that she is protecting, for example, the russian-speaking people in donbas, as she told it, the west can also believe this next one somehow fables of russia about the fact that she wants peace and kyiv does not want peace,

well, look, the west is not monolithic. yes, it is such that there are such forces, people and public, in particular, that is, broad sections of the population that support us and understand what russia is doing, and they are directed so decisively support us to the end but there are also political forces, individual politicians, part of the population of the public who say, well , look, this war should not last forever, russia must be understood, because it is a great state, if we were to listen to such a theoretical paradigm as they say in scientific language, that is, this explanation is that if a large state is a big country, then there should be some kind of overflow around it, and the countries located around it, they should not dig into someone, somewhere, try to reach this sphere of influence, in particular, ukraine, there are also supporters of such a point of view, they say otherwise, but sanctions what have we imposed on russia? they are harming us. they are not increasing. intulation is growing. you see, we are already saving money. oh, and

the consumption of gas and oil in russian is a problem. it certainly causes people who are not satisfied to go out on demonstrations. there was recently in prague, let’s say, a fairly large administration in other european cities and even in america, the influence of the second trumpian curve is growing a little, the republicans who say why are we giving tens of billions to ukraine, then this will be a challenge, there will be such advantages and you are powerful, who are simply oriented towards russia or oriented for their own populism for their own political interests within their countries, mostly the second one, yes, they will simply use it and say let's put pressure on ukraine to agree to according to any language of russia, we stop shares, take away prices, normalize and so on, that is, the event is different, and there is a certain struggle, both among the political elites in individual countries and between the borders of the borders between them, regarding how to behave and how much to be with is ukraine going to

contribute to such a complete fundamental victory of ukraine to the total chicken of russia, or can it stop somewhere halfway where russia did not win? well, ukraine may not have liberated all these lands there, which it wanted to liberate for many at events it will be such an option, normal and understandable, on which they can also go without losing vigilance . thank you, volodymyr dubovyk, director of the center for international studies and associate professor of international relations, odesa national university named after the swordsman, or with us, well, and now we will add yana the shooter to our conversation. head of the congress of ukrainians in latvia good afternoon ms. yana, did i make a mistake with the accent in your surname? congratulations, everything is fine, well, it's important that you know such details, so from today i'm latvian restricts the entry of russians with schengen visas, uh, tell me if this changes anything, because before that

there were certain restrictions in latvia too, it is necessary to state correctly that latvia restricts the entry of russian citizens and holders of single-term schengen visas, who has the information what is it that the russian mass media write? what, for example, are russians who now want to enter with schengen visas, then they are required to write a condemnation of the policy of the russian government and the war in ukraine? what i can not tell you, but what i emphasize is that there is there are three types of visas. and the lithuanian visa still exists. hmmm, it’s the koryshrukova schengen visa, which we’re talking about now, and there is a long-term visa, so now we’re only talking about it late and

with many exceptions. and in general, the flow of russian tourists is visitors who may be using latvia as a transit point, has it changed, has it changed, has it decreased? what our portals write is that many russians of course go to jurmala, as they say, our jurmala is our riga, but you know why exactly i will say it is so big the problem is that we do not know how many russians, at least the general public does not know how many russians have temporary and long-term residence permits in latvia, we are playing here with visas, but long-term and short -term residence permits. now

i was from the three baltic countries, you didn't have any softer, as far as i know, your own legislation in relation to the russian minority, to the russian language, to the protection of, respectively, the national er, well, some kind of identity, if we allow it that way to formulate whether something is changing now or whether they see in the russian language culture and the presence of the cultural soft forces of russian the russian world as a so-called threat well here there are two points one point positive the second point negative from which we start well let's start from the positive with the positive yes thanks to what we saw in ukraine, everyone understood that the so-called culture, the so-called russian language, poses a huge threat to itself and nevertheless mobilized to reduce its influence. you probably also know that we finally demolished the stele

of occupation that we had in the parking lot of victory park and on the fifth of may, something like this happened, i don't know what it is, well, i don't think it's in lithuania, not in estonia, and even in kyiv, you can't imagine it. well, there are positive moments, too. you already know that we are reducing russian schools, that is, in three years they will be to switch to learning in latin, but once again the question is, how practically will it be possible to do it, because theoretically, already a long time ago in 1991, all teachers must know the english language at the nearest qualification, in fact, well, only theoretically the negative points are that there are a lot of immigrants from ukraine who came here precisely because they hoped that there was no need to know something like that here, and unfortunately they are not the type of russification, but we

here from ukraine are even jealous of the white because they are from the motherland mother, despite the fact that ukraine, er, is already at full-scale war for the seventh month, the mother family is still standing and there is no political will er, or any other to move it, maybe to another place, not to mention doing something like what happened with by the monuments of vlatvia say whatever you want please, what? i'm saying a lot of things out of time, but now you mentioned yurmala, yes, and we, the people who left that soviet camp, remember all those concerts in yurmala. by the way, i wonder if

they will be or not, uh, considering what is happening now, how yurmalu was loved by a russian hmm god, how to call her a bohemian sideboard, she treated her like that, and she loves her in many of them there, apartments and real estate, that's why they have long-term permits, but vlad even now arranges concerts with, for example, svitlana loboda who helps ukraine is very pleased with this mr. matok concerts i help ukraine we can continue and tell me please tell me there is a debate going on in ukraine whether it is necessary to thank pugach for what she wrote on instagram or not whether it is necessary to thank her you probably know about her post so where did she condemn

and everything that russia does, and some ukrainians say that it's good that pugacheva did and said that, because she is a certain icon for russians . i know at home on their radio receivers or on their gadgets or whether to include her songs in your playlist or not already? there was no word of ukraine there, there was not and there was not a word about the war, because only about what for what, for what kind of pro-alized goals, for which our guys are dying, something like that was written somewhere, and it is interesting that this phrase was not quoted by any

publication in russia, in principle, even the most the more liberal ones who still remain there well, there conditionally they are not this one this sentence itself did not allow itself to be quoted, it is obvious that it was simply censored and the only conditional russian edition is again the same jellyfish that and that i am not mistaken is in riga and is now latvian e - did the press in latvia somehow react to this, or was there anything about it, or did the people who listened to pugacheva there, for whom she is something to latvians, somehow they react to it, but i find it interesting, very disturbing, so you know, you have to understand that vlad is very it the secret of society i think more than in ukraine because of the fact that it is wet and different, that is why the latvian cultural space does not intersect with the russian-speaking cultural structures and began to belong to the russian-speaking space. this is what i am, what

i observed in estonia. with my own eyes, what are the estonians and the russian-speaking population almost do not intersect. they listen to different music, read different books, watch different video content and even dress differently. that is to say, this is it. they can even be seen on the street of a p i and finally, leprosy about wearing er element of clothes of ukrainian production, it is the appendages of which we really like here er lviv company was spotted on er on the legs on the legs er actually one of the lithuanians, namely the latvian and anis heart, the director of the center of the capital communications of nato, who wore those socks to the conference in warsaw, there is an inscription in ukrainian, trampling russian , and, well, it already spread very widely in the russian media. that is, such serious newspapers as from 200 devoted entire publications to the game and so on. is it because of this terrible fact, are such sentiments

also supported by other latvians, like yani savci? and was this also noticed in your information space ? and also the presenter of one of the main television news programs sat like that all this evening with tishets with the inscription "ugh, what's up, thank you, then , mrs. jana and mrs. jana strelets sad, the head of the congress of ukrainians in latvia, with us, uh, it was interesting, you know what, by the way, about lesya's story does not let go of any stories from pugacheva, she is really iconic. i'll just tell you that there are already office ones, but you're talking. you officially have an explanation. from the ministry of defense, the deputy minister of defense, a beautiful painter, said that good russians are in quotes, well, russians are also

in quotes, and good in quotes are propaganda weapons into the enemy and bring enormous benefits to the authoritarian russian regime, and then it is bait like a worm on a fishing hook, the painter explained . oleksiy arestovich said on his page that if it didn't happen to alla pory sivanna in the river, putin as a political figure will not survive this, so he will not survive this inscription on instagram. 40 carry corvalol well, this is a story about alla borisovna and good russians. it

seems to me that i think about this a lot and follow such things that are a little more subtle. well , relatively speaking, they do not bring to the surface so much, because everyone knows such a pugachev. all they know, for example, yuriy andruhovich, and even more so who are russian or swiss, i don’t know the writer, you mentioned mikhail shishkin, but that’s what, the same story, how do we treat good russians, i understood for myself. they are not related to us in any way, then we can treat them normally well, but very few people have the luxury to say that in principle, well, to peck at the russians, and on this one, well , we will now put three dots in our first hour of our marathon, it reminds me that on espresso the broadcast of the farewell ceremony with queen elizabeth is also ongoing, already 20 thousand viewers are on this broadcast. well, just now, and on java melnyk this is the latest news that happened during this hour, and i have my word for you