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spices everyone wants to work definitely definitely you understand politics is politics i.e. different factions different political groups have different interests they try to promote them it is quite normal but there is a certain agreement a certain consensus and you know it is very good it manifests itself externally when we are as a single force as a single delegation, representatives of different factions speak abroad, you know, we act in unison, we act as representatives of ukraine, we fight together, side by side, very very, we have never had any problems, i am very glad that hear thank you very much oleksandr mereshko, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy, he joined us there between the parliamentary cooperation well, we're actually already on this what well, it's over uh, what's over, it 's over -he sleep slowly, andriyka, where are you running, we still have
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at least two topics to discuss, one of them is about what contra is here for these six months, and it will be seven months soon, and how will the war continue performed by the ukrainian language, let's talk about it with a sociologist and also a person who cheers for that or ukrainian, how did she feel at home? and those who are fighting and those who are under fire and those who are in more or less calmer territory and those who are somewhere abroad, but everyone who is ukrainian and who does not care about everything that is happening and who reads the news that is happening in ukraine all the horrible details that are revealed with er in the liberated territories er the atrocities of the russians
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what are we going through and how can we not go crazy from such news about this will continue er so for now for the time being we will include in our conversation the director of the sociological group rating oleksiy antipovich we tell him good afternoon, mr. oleksiy , hmm, a sociological group recently conducted a survey, what is this study about, and about the ukrainian language, and the result is that the share of ukrainian speakers has increased by almost 20% hmm who are these people, whom you asked, what age, from which regions let me correct you anyway, as far as i can remember, the issue of language in ukraine has always been studied or generally consisted of three parts: the first is the language at home, or the language, the language in everyday life, which
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is used, which is used by ukrainians, so it is precisely in this issue that the changes are significant but no no not like that let's say it's a victory for the ukrainian language today a little more than half of ukrainians constantly use the ukrainian language at home not so long ago there were 40 and 45%, but somewhere around half 46-48% it has held in recent years, even with the beginning of the a-a war, but the holy war of 2014, on the other hand, we had such a strong third or up to a third of the people who spoke russian, there was a part of the people who communicate in two languages, today only 13% of ukrainians speak russian in everyday life language, that is, this indicator decreased and decreased very significantly, but these people moved into the category of those
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who communicate in two languages, well, or a little bit, the category that communicates exclusively in the ukrainian language, er, we can see from the questions we ask to ukrainians that about a third of the exclusively russian-speaking population is going to switch completely to the ukrainian language in everyday life, we ask them about this, about two-thirds of the bilingual let 's say in a conditional environment are ready to switch to the ukrainian language in the near future and in general, when we also ask, we talked often in the ukrainian language in the russian language in two languages ​​before the war, now we see that the share of actual use may not be constant and the presence and use of the ukrainian language in everyday life has increased in in ukraine as a whole by 20%, but we have a good half of ukrainians who already speak ukrainian
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, so the share of the russian-speaking population among those who use two languages ​​has increased by 40%, actually people who are increasing some have increased or switched to permanent the use of the ukrainian language or have increased the frequency of using the ukrainian language - this is actually what concerns the e-e language in everyday life here the progress is significant but it is not so e-e let's say it is not one hundred percent yes there is progress here but here we have others questions that people say, for example, what is your native language, yes. this is more of a question about the self-identification of a citizen, so according to this indicator, almost 50% consider ukrainian to be their native language, and let me remind you that 50% of ukrainians are constantly used in everyday life, so we understand that we have a good third of the russian-speaking population who consider ukrainian to be their native language.
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it's just that they don't use it in everyday life. we have another question, which, well, it's already exclusively political, in my opinion, because we actually conducted it as the sociological group of the rating, we studied it there from long ago, how russian and ukrainian languages ​​should coexist in ukraine, and we had a large part, i don’t even remember how much you know, everything that happened before the war. now somewhere so far away, but there was a large part of ukrainians who said that the russian language needs to be given the status of a second state language, and today there are no such people, we have a complete definition, if i am not mistaken, something like 90% of ukrainians say that the ukrainian language should be the only state language and russian for state status, russian is spoken by one, one, two, or three percent of ukrainians , that's why our progress here is too much, very, very
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big. well, this process is alive. we ask about russian content, about you, about watching russian tv series, about listening to russian music. performers uh well, let's say almost 70%. today they do not watch russian tv series although before the war they watched them and today about half of ukrainians at the beginning of the war did not listen to a single russian song by a russian artist although before the war, there were barely 10% of those who did not listen to russian artists. that's why we see that in the political e or in this particular issue of identification. we have a nightly progress regarding ukrainization. putin probably did the most out of all of them. i don't know whether to call him a politician, but everyone who did something for ukraine, he did the most himself.
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we can make his epitaphs. even a good such line later did the most for the ukrainization of ukraine . anastasia, and here you are. if you've actually heard the statistics from oleksiy antipovich, you don't think that ukrainians have such a property. when they answer sociological surveys, they like to embellish the reality a little, because i remember very well in kyiv, for example when i was still a child, i went to the kyiv gymnasium and then the lyceum, respectively. it seems that everything is in ukrainian, but the ukrainian language was used, as you know, like latin in the middle ages in europe, that is, it seems to be the language of education, but it is really studied later are the schoolchildren out there and no one speaks latin anymore? their latin is kind of cluttered there, it’s half french and half german, so whether ukrainians
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don’t embellish the reality a little . er, after the 90s and the collapse of ukrainian politics there, er, how about this, so as not to offend a-er, something based on soviet motives a-er, er, and i think that it has changed a lot now and now there are many new educational materials that allow you to do ukrainian is interesting and in the end the ukrainian language we can see how it develops in social networks as new words and new word formations appear and it becomes interesting for use and develops in the end
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. excuse me , please look, there is a singer who sang all his life in russian, but now you sing all ukrainian, uh, with such a duet, there was friday, and the other one, the one with the beard, it doesn't matter, he and he wrote the lyrics of the song that was sung by the leader of okean elsa vakarchuk sviatoslav and e. there are such words the lantern is burning and the coffee maker is not sleeping . well, open some rich ukrainian language. allow me to ask. and why not? well, because there is caviar in the coffee shop and the use of ukrainian language, should there be a minimal respect for the
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ukrainian language among those people who decided to switch to the ukrainian language, or should we be so grateful to others, they are at the level of our level that we have to accept it, the coffee shop and the person who makes the coffee will say that there is no such word as greedy, they will say that the attention of which digs only the poor and the ball is good. we will come to everything . but not always they worry, not always we give them the opportunity to stay in the ukrainian language, that is, society chooses whether this language is suitable or
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not . pass because it is actually quite a complex psychological process and many of you know that most often ukrainians are faced not with the fact that they do not know the ukrainian language, but with the fact that it is difficult for them to overcome this language barrier, it seems to them that they do not speak very well or not it's very cool . and that's why they need our support, and i think the word "kavyar" won't catch on in ukrainian, but the attempt was not bad. tell me, please, on the one hand, we are observing such processes literally today . my colleague, a journalist, wrote that her son an elementary school student, he provoked her to start speaking ukrainian, well, and sometimes he also has such innovations because he says, mom, look how caring i am, that is, caring, because he does not know how to find this
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ukrainian word he himself starts to translate something there from the other side. i also observe people who say i and i will continue to speak russian because russian speakers are also fighting at the front, and this is the argument of people who stick to russian and very often these are people whose ancestors probably spoke in ukrainian but were with the russians, what to answer to this phrase about the fact that the russian-speaking people are also fighting, well, this is new , which countries, that is, the reluctance to switch to ukrainian or to study ukrainian, to justify it by the fact that someone somewhere on the front speaks russian, well, this is a terrible manipulation , in fact, and well that is, to fight, what are the counter-facts in
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this well, that is, they are, er, well, you understand here, in fact, there should be a very clear border, do you or do you want to live in this country do you want to develop the culture of this country do you or do you want to continue the future of this country, that is, there is not much choice left here, you must know the language of this book, you must respect the culture of this country, or will you use it? anti well, that is already a question, this is the next one, but the question of unwillingness to provide a service or a desire to communicate and justify it's because someone at the front is talking, too, someone at the front didn't talk and you don't know if he's actually talking with her or it's just the same manipulation that they use, so it's all very true on the one hand, everything is very simple, but we can
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complicate it to the point that we can continue to discuss it in the context of what, who, what language is spoken at the front, the state language is ukrainian, and then we continue to develop, provide opportunities to learn and move on, thereby creating our information protection and the field of information here well in fact, this is a question, the ukrainian language provides one hundred percent information protection, for example, from russian by force and i don’t know the similarities there. it seems to me that the same latin alphabet would would give a stronger, stronger correspondence, if we are already talking about the fact that dogs are the protection of the issue in another way, that the ukrainian language in itself does not make a person ukrainian and does not make him, for example, the bearer of some ukrainian project, a and e do not protect, for example, sovkov rudiments, and in this sense we would like to ask another very interesting study was conducted among young people aged 14 to 18.
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for example, it was a question of whether there are irreplaceable people, irreplaceable irreplaceable people do not exist, there is such a maximum of the soviet soviet times, and this is what the survey showed. that, for example, 40% partially agreed with such a statement and another 30% completely agreed or, let's say, lenin 's the goal justifies the means. it turns out that 46% of current ukrainian schoolchildren support this slogan partially and fully, one in five, it must be said that this survey was conducted before the war and only now it was conducted like this, but it also shows what about the other is about the others some kind of plaz is very important for sure which one is also important it is also about identity it is also about our future eh oleksiiovych can you comment on exactly these
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things and whether sociologists should also monitor them and whether there should be changes to these issues i i will answer in the affirmative myself, there is nothing soviet here, uh, you don’t need to put these theses literally or with an equals sign, and to say that it is for the soviet past, uh, there are no irreplaceable people, yes, this is the practice of life, and the second thesis is so self-evident, that’s why uh not it is necessary to analyze these theses in this way, i would say that the changes that are taking place, on the one hand , are largely dictated by emotion, anger, and toxicity of everything related to russia now, the moscow patriarchate, the russian language, russia as a state, a russian by nationality, that's all includes the word russia, it is toxic, accordingly , people absolutely reject it, they reject it, uh, well, somewhere because of their beliefs, and somewhere, in the end
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, because the absolute majority of 90% or 100% of ukrainians do it, that's why when it all eases and we will again have the russian language in our songs, or the russian language somewhere else. and this will surely be perceived by a part of the people as normal, and the second part, which is absolutely bigger , will now be yes, they will be harassed for this russian language and so on. our political srachs, excuse me for the expression, have a chance to return, but the ukrainian, i think that, well, not so much, but not so much, now he will be under his own power, in order to shake things up somewhere in the elections, with the topic of language and so on, it's a little bit different times and the ukrainian language will definitely spread, and i think the state will definitely take the following steps, because quotas on radio, quotas on television, something else, i didn’t really understand it because i’m
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a ukrainian-speaking person. with russian-language content, for sure , they may have even suffered from this somewhere, but i’m sorry, everything is fine now. do you remember the year 2000? i don’t even remember when advertising in russian was banned, how many stories were there, how many howls, that this is not possible. advertising is wrong, it's not marketing at all, it's you, and it went on and on, all the advertising became ukrainian. after a few years, the howl started about the fact that cinemas will show movies dubbed exclusively in ukrainian. oh, what an attack on russian culture, not on russian culture, but actually on human rights. yes, who would like to watch movies in russian now, ukrainian dubbing. it ’s just like heaven and earth, even compared to the russian dubbing, and in principle, this is a very high-quality and pleasant to watch product, respectively, all these
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steps sooner or later bear fruit, you should not just expect that everything is now and yesterday no , it will be a gradual process and the children who will grow up in ukraine in the future will not really be the same ones, as andriy correctly said, it is not a latin language , but after all, it is there will be ukrainian language, there will be ukraine , the director of the sociological group, the rating is anastasia rozlutska, 13 of the public organization ukrainian world, they spoke with us about the jump in ukrainization, which began as a result of the full-scale invasion of anastasia with which i agree. look, we had a few days when the queen and elizabeth died. what about his covenant? yes, and we had a few days of misunderstanding, what should we call the next king karl or charles, and in fact it is decided in the end after
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all the media and this cannot come, some arrangement from even the most respected philologists and so on, it was decided by the media, it was decided by a certain discussion, including by the intermedia, who decided that it would be time and now is the time, so, so , this new uzus is coming in speech so it arises from coffee is a test, our friends, hmm, now there will be a military psychologist, andriy kozinchuk, and we will talk with him about our pains and sorrows, but besides that, mr. andriy, i would still like you to continue our language question a little bit why do people , is it just the problem is that they are ashamed to speak and make mistakes. why is it so difficult for people to switch to ukrainian even if they remember that in childhood, in the distant childhood, they spoke ukrainian at home, but then they went to school, university and so on and started to speak in russian, what is happening, what psychological obstacles arise on this path, the writer
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briefly wants me to explain yes, for sure, you understand very well, well, neurons, connections, when you do something and you do it cool and you are praised, you just like it. when they came to the russian language that she was fashionable then, and you were not something from the village of sholi, so they felt that it was cool and then to return to ukrainian, there are several obstacles , first of all, they are afraid that they will be the yard, well , valera is clear about our connection today, how always we are always on every every time when the most interesting place takes and cuts off the impression that this is just some kind of provocation sitting somewhere some of these kremlin provocateurs are sawing uh what are they sawing wires, well this one is so turned so and i
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think that on that that i am in good shape here, i am at war here, the internet is terrible. in short, they are afraid that they will be trolled and they have very low self-esteem, so you have to be very confident in order to be gorgeous. kuzma skryabina and repelyha here are the serials, otaka, here is the thing. this is very short. okay, and such a small summary under this, then you just need those people who try and make mistakes. let’s somehow not talk like that, praise them , how beautifully it can be corrected so that a person is not offended and again this terrible internet again and again i'm with you again then and it's necessary to praise when you do something good, i don't know it's not necessarily for people with ukrainian, for example , your partner is beating you, you love him very much, but
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he's also beating you, and when he's not fucking and doing something cool, i'll say wow, it doesn't mean that he will fuck less, it means that he will notice the positive things that he will do if there is no communication in your life. praise, you have a drive, communication, guys, communication is somewhere, so learn to praise, it will be cool, yes, god, i just i wanted to praise president zelenskyi, uh, i, so what is it? well, my partner, we are all partners of zelenskyi in the country, a cool owner. so this is good advice, good advice, everyone has prepared for themselves, i hope now to less no, i won’t say so to more it's difficult for these news, which we will now receive from the raisin, and we are experiencing a kind of exciting deja vu with mariupol. i should have gotten used to the fact that these
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muscovites do not give us life anyway, but we again later see these nameless graves in the middle woods with crosses knocked down on the highway, we see these bodies, what are the remains of the bodies that are taken, what should we do with it? to be honest, i am a journalist, for example, when i have a day off, i just take a break, maybe it is illegal - unprofessional, but i just don't read the news, because otherwise you can go crazy oh no, that's way too much professionally, you are beautiful. listen, when i rule out a psychologist, i am a kind of hipster. so everything is okay, you need to get that strength and energy somewhere to be a journalist again, well, let's move on to the answer about the raisin. well, my first very rhetorical question. yes, that the humanitarian centers are open or that all the emotions are over and at the expense well, how to survive everything, we need to realize not what happened, but what to do next. and
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how to support those people, relatives who, uh, left there, and these are their relatives over there, those still nameless graves, we need to realize that there is nothing to do with the dead, what to do with the living, and unfortunately, unfortunately, this is probably pathetic, but it is such a terrible price, and we need to understand, realize what counts in mariupol, what is spent in kherson, where we will soon go hahaha sorry spoiler eh and what to do? well, in general, with the little ones, raisin is a big city . it was strategic for the spring, eh, and well, that 's what it will be. but again, this kadriks with bracelets, which we had luka addika with nail polish, a kadriks with bracelets but hmm to do is to focus on yourself focus on those people close to you. how do you love and tell them the end of the story that i love you and
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thank you for what i tell you. because you are alive, i am going, even you are in the armed forces. well, invest the victory. the question is about how and how i recover from that. to the military who are there on the front lines and how are they holding on there, what can a psychologist do for them, briton, you ask this question, but the state leadership does not ask it, i will not troll them, i will not even criticize them, but unfortunately, everything is very bad with this, the psychologist is not above that, i i know more depends not from a psychologist or from a female psychologist, from the moral and psychological state of the entire body of the entire team. well, from the state of war, of course. and in different ways, you know, somewhere exalted, somewhere tired , all of them are one military man, except kazinchuk, you won’t be able to
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tell because being tired from war is not fashionable in the season 2014-2022 so, er, to say that we are holding on somehow well, we are fighting, we are piling on, we are handsome, er, a lot. so, when we return, there is not a single program, neither state nor any super-duper, that some program has already been made for those who have returned, if now who has returned from the war, only our three hundred wounded, and well, apart from the fact that they are being treated, and well, it’s cool, but there is nothing else, uh, it’s not even treason, it’s just a statement. i’m not saying this to say how bad the government is i say this because we have a niche that needs to be filled, that it needs to be done, and it can not be some
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kind of international program. all the georgian retherapists who tell me how to work, pass here, guys, you fought for 5 days, died and that’s it, and that’s it. sorry georgia, no, well , we’re not yet ready to teach ukrainians what to do , but in any case, what i want to say is that we are inadequate in our gang of psychologists. we communicate and gradually we we are producing this program. listen, we have learned to fight a little bit at a time. well, we will learn to do this adaptation. at the moment, there are no ideas for the system, and it is very cool. a large number of specialists, psychologists, psychotherapists, psychiatrists, social workers, yes heck, there are a bunch of programs, that's all that is not included in the system, you know how i am, there are a lot of dudes with machine guns with artillery, but there must be some uncle who will say yes, dudes, i'm lazy right now, we're
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going to kill spring a-a we would listen to you with pleasure and i hope that we will talk with you again and you will not refuse us later we are simply limited in time, you will not refuse us and we will meet with you on the air and we will talk because these psychological issues need to be discussed we thank everyone who was with us now with our marathon we love you all as you advised us psychologist to confess love to those who are alive and say it andriy saichuk i love him too lesya vakulyuk our beloved beloved well, on this our viewers are also love and in the future our love news our e-e armed forces of ukraine forced the river of schools in kharkiv region now the city of kupyansk ukraine fully controls what is happening at the front and what other territories ukrainian forces can manage to liberate before winter

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