in the meantime, they are done just like that, research our example, too, transfer something to the charity fund, roar, just hit the internet once or twice. if you have a card, it is very easy to do it, or go to the nearest privat bank or some other banks and savings banks, transfer it a couple of hryvnias for the gurkit charity fund, or transfer it to the fund, return it alive, for example, to taras shmut, transfer the same fund to serhiy prytula, funds that we trust completely and do not feel sorry for them, especially pozhet, you know that money will definitely reach addressee just as i, for example, absolutely trust svyatoslav in litynskyi and p- and the same with olesya zima and the same with all these people who are beautiful, it is clear that there are some among them, well, not among them, not among them there are people who do not steal something among marko volunteering, something, somehow, some kind of lonely fraudsters there, those who were there before the war were also

promoting people to some there sms messages there to some there they are calling you from the bank and so on. well, these are just small criminals, they won't even do much harm there or this is done by people from offices undercover, but they are doing enormous damage, it is not about the fact that a car was stolen there, or even a million hryvnias were collected from the trusting bank of citizens, but there are already some millions of dollars going there, well, we know that well too. recently there was a case which , by the way, has not yet ended, and in the ministry of defense, there was a theft there, they spread it for almost a million dollars, but by the way, today i saw how the deputy trukhin was working and said, "maybe i'll go to the forest, i'll leave you money, he'll leave you money right now." sits in court in the anti-corruption court of ukraine and gives evidence that it is great that it is here in the end it was created now it is clear why it is so difficult to

create it yes dmytro chubenko spokesman of the kharkiv prosecutor's office with us mr. dmytro we welcome you to our air yes good evening and tell us about the process of exhumation of bodies from a mass burial in izyum is difficult and difficult. what is new? what new details are currently available? the transformation process is ongoing. it is already the fourth day. as of yesterday evening, 167 bodies were destroyed. 18 of them were servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine , one of them had his hands tied as to the cause of death. but who exactly hid them and why they ended up there will be investigated by the investigation, at the moment we are not ready for this provide information about those bodies that have already been determined, most of the bodies have

shrapnel wounds, some bodies have signs of violent death, in particular, on the first day, the corpse of a person whose hands were tied was found recently, namely yesterday the body of a person with a penetrating wound in the chest area was found maybe it was used to kill a person, the details and specific causes of death will only be established by forensic experts, since the corpses are in the stage of mummification, they have been buried in the ground since march, that

is, the image of the face, other details of the body, and so on they are already in germany, so the process of finding out will be complicated. but some of the relatives are already contacting the law enforcement officers, and the prosecutor will provide information that it is possible that one of their relatives is buried there, so this information we are collecting because we need to identify all the persons buried there as much as possible and establish the causes of death or it could be included in the criminal proceedings. of de-occupied settlements in the territory of kharkiv region, most often they did it in larger cities or other

national points where there is a certain infrastructure or there is a large number of people, for example more often for all this, such torture chambers were made in police departments, for example, in shevchenko, one of these torture chambers was carried out in the basement of the military commissariat , today prosecutors and police investigators inspected such torture chambers in the dergachev district, one of which was in the administrative premises and the other in a private one near the youth center, but also basements , i.e. these torture chambers are most often in basements , their characteristic is that they find traces of blood, they often find those tools or some homemade products that were used to torture

for example, wearing anti-gas clothes on a person's head , using old soviet telephones that generate electricity when they are coiled, and after winding them, a certain amount of electricity is generated that does not kill a person, but causes shocking pain, and this is a very simple and understandable method of torturing people, as well as this pulling out nails, as they did with sri lankan citizens who were in kupyansk during the occupation. and when they realized that the territory was occupied, you tried to get to the territory of ukraine and left on foot in the direction of vovchansk, they did not understand the area. they knew the local roads. they simply went on foot. they were caught there by the servicemen of the

russian federation. they took them to the vovchansk aggregate plant . now these persons have been given medical assistance. they are in a safe place, that is, even citizens of other countries suffered from these tortures, what did the occupiers want from them, how did they see the participation of these people or did they see in them some spies or employees of some foreign special services, of course there were uh people. it seems to be seven people. they uh are students and their relatives. what did they see in them when they went on the road, what did they suspect ? it remains a mystery to us. maybe they tried to get them in order to exchange them with someone for something in the future or to have foreign citizens for that purpose. we somehow manipulate this and they have

some special special units. that people are being tortured, they are being mocked in how and who in them , who is involved in this, the prosecutor's office of special units for torture has not been established at the moment, we understand that these actions were carried out with the aim of obtaining certain information from citizens or in order to suppress the protest of the population against the mood of the local population about the ukrainian who did it? it was done by the employees of the so -called people's militia. fsb employees were also seen if they saw that certain information. this person really has. in some active pro-ukrainian actions already more experienced employees of the fsb were involved in such

events and also shamom stalyati was present on the territory of the kharkiv region and also there were in particular in izyum e-e hmm employees of e-e militia from the so-called lpr dnr in particular in izyum they were strongly represented because the occupiers saw in them such local policemen who understand the mentality and the population and can already work with them in the direction of the people's peninsula of the andes . raisin in the first days, one of us with him, the photos were signed, there was a woman with her back turned, it was signed that this woman is a rape victim and she confessed to it like this, with whom, not so much,

a young woman also joined us a girl who lived in izyum for almost 6 months until she was finally able to leave, then her father made her a hiding place in the sofa in the apartment, and every time we did not actually go outside, and when there was a danger that the russian military might come, they hid her in the sofas and sat down on sofas so they performed a her grandparents sat on top of this sofa and pretended that nothing unusual was happening in their house, were there rapes and widespread rapes? a person who confirmed uh by force, he understands that bringing a person to

justice is either very complicated or for you there is nothing from this um nothing good from this she won't appear that's why people are often women after rape they don't want to tell anyone about presentation or defend this case they very often stay with this uh later in their lives and don't want to tell anyone about it we have four cases we we are investigating them, we are establishing who it is, maybe we are learning, that committed these actions, we have certain information about the military units that were located in these settlements where such crimes took place, but i will repeat myself once again, probably everyone understands that this is very the sensual topic of women is not easy, so complicated and not

everyone is able to mention it, and pavli is ready to talk about it, and pavli- to report about the security authorities , using the opportunity, i want to appeal to someone who faced this with horror, if indeed, uh, hmm, they were confirmed eh this is by force and you are ready to talk about it, please contact the gunpowder authorities, it is difficult, but this also needs to be done, we will provide uh, we will use maksym vasyl to establish uh, the units that were there and these materials criminal proceedings will also be applied in the future at the international criminal court, therefore the probability of justice being served is very high - these are the specific actions of specific individuals for this conversation dmytro chubenko, the spokesman of the kharkiv prosecutor's office, was

aware very often that women who survived violence and were raped. they think that this happened because they somehow misbehaved but no, in fact, it's not, it's not your business. it's about who came to our land. it's about those enemies and their deranged brains. ideas about this world and that uh, about the fact that they can be some better it is better to declare that all these enemies will be punished. well, let's, er, our next guest is mstislav banik himself, the head of the development of electronic services at the ministry of digital digitalization , that's what it's called.

to our ether i know that we want to talk in particular, about the fact that now, due to the application, you can invest money in e, not just in the bank, not to put it on some kind of deposit. in fact, everyone who has watched this ether before knows that i have been there for about 20 minutes. therefore, i transferred 500 uah already. and 1,000 there was also a million. please tell me, sir, i transferred my 500 hryvnias to the charity fund, roar, roar, yes, which cars are transported, and what is the difference ? the bond due to the action but not to transfer, for example , the funds. are these completely different things? yes, thank you. they are completely different things. therefore, i will say yes. you still need to

transfer the funds on june 24 while the bonds are being launched. as for this, there are no bonds yet, they will be in the near future, i hope that they will become available to all people in general, why do they appear in action and why is this important because, frankly speaking, not a single person who has not dealt with securities there has no idea at all what the military is bonds. i am sure that just as i once did not know, so do you and the audience, and it is not a shame to influence that having such an instrument in the state that allows you to invest money . actions, he will be on the contrary, it is clear, what is the answer, the bond. these are securities issued by the state, and then the state returns the money to you, together with interest. that is, you buy

such a bond there. so you don’t have a piece of paper from the pope or something else in there you lay in a set with what do you do after that blood goes to the bank with a clear thing? that is, we do this type of a few clicks through the actions to buy and uh, they will be there for different terms, available bonds can be short-term. but with us , several months can be long-term per year, and that's why from time to time your state does not issue military bonds, and as soon as it will be issued as soon as our partners start selling them, that's why every person will be able to purchase vouchers in the future. and what is important is what is different from the danube . that in the fact that once upon a time a person is also a mountain - just give it to prof. well, there is also a category of people and a structure, for example, uh, to put money but not ready with it

completely , so how to say it there it is free of charge to donate 200 hryvnias there, but if you could be sure that the state here is a rival and there is 10,000, this is exactly the story, the state will return the funds to you, you can get more money, but support them like this and why can it be in this way the state gets extra money e-e c the economy where it is allowed and established to support and this allows you to receive money for the park because this is what war is and with applications extremely therefore if you want to support the state and the armed forces and at the same time leave the option for yourself well, yes, and then borrow money, borrow money correctly well,

it's unlikely to earn it, taking into account inflation, but at least somehow save them from the fact that inflation will reduce them, remember that we have somewhere around 20% inflation for the next year, even 25, that's probably good too exit and i'm just wondering when to expect the appearance of this option, how easy it will be to purchase this bond and whether it is not very expensive . bonds from uah 1,000. this is its denomination. that is, you can buy several pieces there, but for a couple of hryvnias, that is, it has nothing to do with how easy it will be. well, i think the action already deserves to be said that we manage to provide free services easily and this is just the one the case itself, well of course, the thing is, actually, the third question is about

the timing of the launch, we hope it will be in the near future, and maybe even in our country, it’s good. thank you for everything. thank you, the head of the development of electronic services of the ministry of digitalization was with us, we are watching the announcements in action. if you are subscribed to it if you have uh if you have a smartphone and you have this application on your smartphone it works uh it's actually quite useful and convenient then you can also uh invest although you see i would only get half of the bonds uah 500 might be enough somewhere they would put one for two well, we'll wait . well, it's a little, but now we have very good , uh, very good. on the one hand, there is trust in the state, a little more trust in state institutions

. ukrainians have never trusted state institutions so much to me. from the latest polls, what we write has grown from time to time to everyone. the support of political parties has increased for me , for example personally as a citizen for a citizen this is a bit of a pain for ukraine, because democracy does not work otherwise. democracy must rely not on leaders, but must rely on the party. if we do not have the support of the party, if we cannot as a community delegate our representatives to the parliament, so that they can be there. to stand up, gentlemen, we will have trouble, we will not be able to be an effective society where everyone trusts each other, because sooner or later the war will end and this level of trust and support, which is connected with military mobilization , will end soon enough what level do we have to trust? who is this

european solidarity ? maybe there will be some newer parties, they like these parties, create some others, well, there must be some kind , anyway, the thing is, we don't decide anything, no, each of us decides and each of us voted for some politician for some party, and now it's our duty watch what this party does if she does some bad things, well, we can influence, everyone can express their opinion and don't think about these opinions, eh, those people who came to politics, whom we brought to politicians, they consider one way or another, they must consider well, if it is possible, democracy is important, then all the same, we have the possibility of parliamentarism and parliamentarism is a party if we elect people to the party and then

we say ah-ah what's going on we trust the parliament well then, who do you trust, who do you trust in this case if you don't trust your whose representatives you elected locally, it doesn't work like that well, in fact, that's why it doesn't work. therefore , after all, something has to change here, and i hope that it will change after all, and we will be a mature society sooner or later, completely european i wanted to say the politics of two countries. but it is no longer two countries, but because many countries have already intervened in this conflict. we have a request from the editorial office groups so that we switch to the russian language, eh

hello, mr. boris, we have a really difficult situation and now and last year, it was because when we follow difficult events in the conflict between azerbaijan and armenia, we have for example, i have such a situation that i have friends, and friends of azerbaijanis. well, ukrainians are of azerbaijani origin, and it's the same with armenians, and we , on the one hand, have more, it seems , political support from azerbaijan now in it's a time of war, but on the other hand, we also understand that armenia is a more democratic country , more probably er-er turned to european prospects, that now the war in ukraine is changing the balance of power, i mean that it was 15

years ago at the beginning of this year, with the banner of the famous speech of president putin at the munich conference, where he explained that a geopolitical catastrophe had happened, the collapse of the soviet union, but it seems that this war only leads to the acceleration of these processes, we see that kazakhstan already seems to be looking more in the direction of beijing, and azerbaijan seems to be very close to the zone of influence of turkey, what kind of crossroads is armenia now at? i would say that the political views and society in armenia are largely divided, on the one hand, armenia has been actively participating in the program of the european union for a long time and consistently enough

eastern partnerships where we had a lot in common with ukrainian colleagues. unfortunately, in 2013 , armenia made a u-turn by refusing to sign the association agreement and joining the euro-european economic union. besides, as you know very well, armenia is a member of the collective security treaty organization, which is headed by russia . and thus it turned out to be in the plan of the geopolitical division of europe, eh, in the same camp with russia, eh, naturally, this factor has its effect on relations, like the layers of the army and so on of the armenian society in relation to the war in ukraine, but at the same time, how would it be fair to note that the armenian citizens of armenia have made their own choice of decision to develop on a democratic path, in this

sense we have much more in common with ukraine , this in particular indicates the last mood the last days of my statistics have nothing to do with the states that are recognized by er in terms of values, the society has nothing to do with the state that was united in the russian economic union and in odkb, i am now looking at the cadres, this is precisely from the meeting of that part of the armenian political spectrum who demand in the region of armenia to change the course of foreign policy and withdraw from the organization of the collective security agreement and strengthen their ties with the sekomen union and the joint states of america and this was

largely contributed to. russia did not react in any way to such an attempt on armenian statehood on the part of the state because it allowed you to kill yourself . that the situation has changed even before this and uh-uh very high- ranking uh-uh representative of the armenian government we are in a short time maybe in two days we heard several statements at once that were difficult to imagine literally a week ago about that they are unhappy reactions of the odkb and eh, that's how it would fulfill its obligations to

its member when its territorial integrity was violated, this was actually a signal to the effect that the army can greatly revise its relations with the kb and its members, and even more so on my a serious statement was made in an interview, there were words in an interview on public television, and the speaker of the armenian speaker of the armenian parliament, who said that the united states of america played the main role in order to stop the escalation despite the fact that the special role of russia in calming the situation was practically eh these statements that were found by eh moscow politicians where they forgot they were dezoned for funding second in eh weight there on the political eh state a member of the army and a visit of

a vacuum cleaner that was quite long, which we will mark many visits of american politicians and statesmen, he had only armenia as his addressee, it was not a regional visit situation, very not it was not azerbaijan that pushed azerbaijan and the expression of its support for the present-day states of america, of course public opinion had a very strong influence on us, at the same time, of course, cautious voices are heard . honest cooperation in the field of security, while russian troops play the role of peacekeepers in nagorno-karabakh and stand on the border between turkey and armenia, armenia and iran, and recently also established

your posts on the border with azerbaijan, what's up? thank you very much for how the situation is developing. thank you for telling me that a window of opportunity is actually opening for armenia. because it was simonian or a nuclear war, a nuclear war. well, let's see, hide your cards, mr. bluffers. as the poker players in our audience say, it was with us. told about the situation that is currently happening in armenia and how much the situation has changed as a result of nancy's visit, the dust flies here a little bit, they popularized the russian language a little bit well, i and i practiced a little bit, but right after the news, we will talk about popularization