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well, guys, yes, the supply was stopped, they were shocked, well, you missed it, did you manage to somehow feel the attitude of the russian military, or were they not so close to you at that time? because from the first of march we began to be heavily bombarded. the first thing we felt was that we had to go into all the basements and not get out because we did not have such an opportunity to even move from house to house. unfortunately, this is how my mother was left. husband, we couldn't just cross the street to take her with us, we couldn't just cross the street, we were flying to play, aerial bombs were flying, and the house in the basement of which we were sitting also eventually collapsed, but now literally every day they show how the exhumation of the victims continues on the outskirts of the raisin do you have i have an idea about how many people in izyum could have become victims of war crimes, of course i have
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an idea because among those rubber-stamped people there are my acquaintances, my friends, my fellow villagers, people with whom i worked, people with whom i wish, people with whom i i communicated and i know for sure that some of these people died and some of these people are still unidentified and some of these people are buried under the rubble. those people who have left so far told me about many victims who were simply stretched out for spare parts in the middle of the city because the people who died from e- e bombs from airstrikes died from shelling from hail simply fell on the road and were dragged by hungry dogs because there was no food in izyum there was no food in izyum already at that time eh people were running wild dogs of course were also starving that's why they tore up these dead people, they couldn't even rebury them, and if you remember march and april, it was very cold. the earth is cold, and the
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constant shelling didn't give people the opportunity to just bury their fellow villagers. you're a teacher, and i had to hear a lot from teachers in the kharkiv oblast about the fact that the russian military offered them cooperation in setting up educational processes there. did you receive such offers ? to the pension fund of ukraine, so of course i didn't understand from the first days, when the russian troops started approaching us, that we should be in the city under occupation. it is impossible under any circumstances, so we will talk, we thought about evacuating , but if we didn't evacuated if we could not leave, we could not because this day when we left was the last day, not even the last day, the last time, the last minutes when it was still possible to leave the city, because all other attempts of people
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ended in their death on the outskirts of our people tried to leave the city, they were simply shot, that is, the lord god and uh, when the occupiers already occupied half of the city, and we were fortunately located on the other half of the city across the river, which was still held by our tereon with its control, then uh, when leaving, they understood that even if we stayed there were no conversations about cooperation. it was clear that this is a violation of ukrainian legislation and that it is against your internal affairs. you know , our colleagues went to the city of bucha and talked with the locals there, and the local residents complain, in particular, about the local authorities that those did not do enough to save civilians, we will now continue to show this material. but first, the question for you is your subjective opinion. did the local authorities in
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izyum do enough to save the civilian population? we will definitely continue this topic now. it was lyudmila kozak, a primary school teacher from the city of izyum. well, the next topic after the liberation of settlements in the kyiv region, the ukrainian police violated more than 25,000 criminal cases about the war crimes of the russian army, and also, as i have just said, the implementation against the mayor of buchi, anatoly fedoruk, was launched. the local residents complained that he failed the evacuation and this led to great human casualties by the residents of buchi. our colleagues from on the present time channel, a resident of buch and viktor berkholenko shows an extract from the register of pre-trial investigations. he and 300 other locals appealed to law enforcement agencies and demand punishment for the mayor of buch for the fact that before the occupation, he did not evacuate the population in
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our country, fedoruk, he clearly knew that we would be a gray zone, he clearly knew about the consequences of the gray zone, that we would be bathing when russian troops entered buchi and active hostilities began, the local residents found themselves trapped as if in a trap, recalls viktor had no opportunity to either leave or stay . the fragments of this funnel had already been concreted . bolshe, now victor was in power, why did the population of buchi contain the fact that this could be why they did not evacuate, this worries iryna as well, she had to sneak through numerous roadblocks of the russian military and managed to escape, but
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many of her neighbors did not know what was written there. there were people, children in these cars, and i later i understood that these people died, just tell the people, they are good people, we will be in the occupation, there will be tanks, planes, guns here, there will be bombs and shooting, we will be engaged in the evacuation of the population as local authorities. take your transport, get in your car, take your friends and neighbors and leave along the irpin river , the line of defense and protection of kyiv passed as early as 1941 , this defensive line came in handy after february 24, 22. it was this fact that formed the basis of accusations . allegedly knew that the armed forces of ukraine would take up the defense. it is here that the city mayor's words from his interview are cited as evidence. the first paragraph of his interview with ukrainian
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truth says that he was informed by the armed forces of ukraine that the main goal of the armed forces is to prevent the fording of the irpin river, that is, the armed forces will do their best to defend the left bank of the irpin river in order not to let them into kyiv, and this is a one hundred percent probability that this horde will enter the city of bucha anatoliy fedoruk all this time of occupation he was in buchi as long as there was an opportunity, he was engaged in the life of the city when the russian military began to look for him, he was hiding, he assures that he did not know that the military would occupy the defense on the opposite bank of the irpen, and in the interview he only expressed his the assumption insists that the decision on evacuation should have been made not by him, but by the regional military administration, but i insist that it carry out the
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evacuation. well, here the regional administration was turned to in the very first days, er, until march 3, definitely not because er, there was not even an understanding what was happening while they were trying to figure out that bucha was actually occupied on march 3, it became clear to everyone how can residents be district, regional and state that bucha is already occupied, based on that, it is necessary to act in a way that allows the situation, a decision was made to ensure green the corridor for the exit of the civilian population had to be negotiated with the occupying units, and military lawyer vitaly titych explains that the question of the start of evacuation must be decided by the local authorities and not only during hostilities, it can also be a man-made disaster , officials on the ground must always be ready for
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just that the entire algorithm of civil protection, the entire algorithm of independence, it is built on the responsibility of specific subjects, each subject has its own zone of responsibility because an emergency situation, it must be expected and it must be foreseen, it must be prevented, such decisions do not need to be coordinated with anyone, the problem is that not all officials know this, the lawyer believes that is why bucha is only one of the examples when it was necessary to save people, everyone was waiting for what would happen next when they waited, they understood that it is no longer possible to evacuate the population, such a situation existed in kherson, novaya kakhovka, and many other settlements andriy kusakov serhiy dykun present time for radio svoboda this was a perverted report and regarding the topic that sounded in the material has fresh sociology after the end of the war, almost 60% of ukrainians want to bring to justice those responsible for possible miscalculations in
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preparation for the war, this is evidenced by the latest survey of the kyiv international institute of sociology conducted between september 7 and 13, respondents were asked whether it is necessary to immediately search for and punish those responsible for possible miscalculations regarding preparations for war, even at the cost of unity in society, 31% of respondents said so, it is necessary to bring to justice all those involved in possible miscalculations, even if it is will provoke a conflict and not with them a threat to unity. however, the majority of 58% believe that these questions should be postponed to the period after the war in order not to provoke conflicts within the country, what do such results mean and who and in what way should answer all these questions regarding the country's preparation for the war about we'll talk about that later , petro burkovskyi, executive director of the democratic initiative foundation named after ilko kucheriv, joins the broadcast. good evening.
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undecided about what it tells you personally, let's start with the fact that you poured only one pair yes with seven propaganda yes or which are used in order to cause a certain split in society and when sociologists test it with the sole purpose not to establish an opinion citizens in order to see what potential there is for a split or to introduce some kind of confusion or confusion of citizens, this is the main applied goal, but to talk about the fact that this is an indicator that there is someone for that to judge now or to judge later, but these things are being researched on thus, therefore, let's immediately distinguish very clearly that in this case, we are dealing with a research, the purpose of which is to counter russian propaganda and the attempts of
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russian agents of influence that is located both inside ukraine and in russia, and what is very important is outside our country, in europe or even across the ocean in the united states, which, thanks to the spread of such messages, are saying that it is necessary to attract everyone in ukraine now to the responsibility no we have to wait, that is, such an artificial topic for discussion is being introduced that currently has no applied value, but with the help of which it is possible to set some citizens against others. in this way, we will impose an agenda that will distract the society of citizens from more important issues. we will set citizens against each other others instead of consolidating them to counter aggression. i understand , but for example, we showed a real, real story when in buch residents are already expressing claims to the mayor of the city. and you think that this is such very well, i don't know. it's so conditional. i don't know the
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sociology survey to make any further conclusions about how further the division in the country can take place and where the conflicts are, but these conflicts form the impression that they are already taking place there, everything is correct. look, i'm not saying that something is conditional i'm just explaining to you why my demolition colleagues conducted this study. obviously, they conducted studies back to the authorities in a ready-made formulation, so you cited only one pair, but you can't consider these pairs in isolation from other issues, this is not the case they can be considered in isolation from the conclusions, and the conclusions of the commission are very clear that this survey as a whole showed that the information space does not have the potential to investigate the situation using these topics, on the other hand, again, they also showed it very clearly in the press release that the government did not can ignore the issue of yes, the punishment of officials, especially with regard to issues of corruption, with
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regard to the issue of the military conflict and how you showed the plot. unfortunately, i did not see it from the very beginning , this is the whole plot, i cannot appreciate what you me you are completely asking, but the issue of the war, especially the invasion on february 24, is difficult, obviously , the answer is that a lot was not done at the level of the central government, a lot was not done at the level of the regional government, of course there is a question and to the local authorities to all there are questions there are questions and the citizens are the only one to whom there is no question in this situation it is the armed forces to the people volunteers and volunteers who, er, had to deal with the collection, they have questions to everyone else there are questions and here such a situation arises, we will now to deepen like this while the russian troops are still standing at the front as long as there is a threat to the entire country for the survival of the entire country because we are
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now deepening and starting to seek to demand a court often this in the conditions of martial law it can be a court without observing legal norms and that is exactly what russia wants in such lynchings and massacres are occurring in ukraine in order to show that ukraine is not democratic and i cannot trust it, this is the main goal of russia in this situation. because we don't know how long the war will last, someone says years, someone says it's possible next year, someone says less, someone more. and we can predict now that such questions, you don't know, will accumulate like a snowball and we will have to give answers to some authorities without waiting of the end of the war, and without a doubt, we will have to admit that there is such public pressure. when they say that , for example, in sumy, in kherson, the security service, the security service employees, the police left, and in
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kherson it turned out to be a tragedy in kherson, because occupied sumy did not spill out, sumy was able to defend itself, of course these issues must be decided not to put them in a long, long drawer, the only thing that can be said here is that it is very difficult to put yourself in the place of the person who makes the decision and prioritize it, so let's see what's here we can only say that the government's main mistake in this situation is to distance itself from these issues, to blame everyone who violates them, that is, it is nice that there is no selective justice, thank you very much for your comment peter burkov's executive director of democratic initiatives named after ilko kucherev was on radio freedom. putin wants to end the war as soon as possible . at least this is how his thoughts and words are conveyed by the
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turkish president, after all. before the so-called referendums, the kremlin's statements of erdoğan's rebuke sound at least strange, nevertheless , in an interview with the american tv channel bbc, the turkish president spoke about the leader's aspirations the kremlin to end hostilities as soon as possible , although under what conditions he did not elaborate, but an interesting detail was that erdoğan, commenting on their recent conversation with putin, said that russia should return the land it occupied and, according to him, this should facilitate the negotiation process between the parties, again it is about the new occupied territories or crimean donbass is still not clear in the kremlin , they have already managed to react in the dictionaries of reprimand, in particular, putin's spokesman dmytro piskov said that the kremlin does not see the possibility of ending the war in to ukraine through political and diplomatic means, however, what do erdoğan's words mean, especially now against the background of the latest news regarding the holding of so-called
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referendums ? well, in general, what about this initiative? we are in touch with igor samovolov, director of the center for middle eastern studies. we are greetings to you. good evening. i am answering one of the questions of american journalists. erdogan, in particular, was asked whether putin can admit that he was wrong with the invasion. the turkish president said that no leader will want to admit that he made a mistake and that it is very difficult for leaders to back down. tell me what does it mean that erdogan sees that putin is losing the war. is this just an answer that the west and ukraine want to hear? i think that i should add something here erdoğan didn't say that. but it should be added that he is an authoritarian leader. authoritarian leaders cannot admit mistakes because they are conditional. you can say them
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. the government relies on the innocence of their decisions. well, he kept silent. although he should have said the same to himself. to embrace this term, well, let's probably start with the statement itself. i think that it is necessary to understand in context , after all, we are talking about a visit to the united states of america, a speech at the general assembly of the united nations, where turkey, without a doubt, wants to show itself as best as possible. and here we are we already know that he spoke. he talked about the grain agreement. he praised turkey's participation in this grain agreement. he called it one of the best achievements of the united nations. of course, he called attention to his dead initiatives. peace initiatives, well, they don’t actually exist because there
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is only a proposal to organize a negotiation process on the territory of turkey, no peace initiatives and such that could be formulated and hmm, has anyone seen it? i don’t know about such initiatives, that’s why i’m here. to be honest, when people often ask about peace initiatives initiatives of turkey, i am lost if there is uh and the information is confirmed that with the help of turkey it will be possible to exchange 200 prisoners there - this is great, this is good news, but so far the ukrainian side does not confirm this and of course that as of now, after uh, moscow starts a new wave of escalation, that is, it takes this entire conflict to a new level of escalation, so in general, these conversations about uh, some kind of peace negotiations or about the peace initiative of turkey, they are
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not appropriate in principle, frankly speaking i can't imagine what putin actually said to irtugan and why ritualistically and how a person and erdogan understood all this, that is, from his words. that is, it turns out that way, if he even said i did tugan, he deceived him. and tell me if the kremlin really organizes and arranges this so-called referendum on the occupied territories. what could be the reaction of turkey, and perhaps not only turkey? and also a number of eastern countries that, well, if they are not allies of russia, then you know, they try to adhere to such neutral positions. well, it is one thing when putin says that i am liberating ukraine, they say, from the fascists and the nazis, but it’s another matter when he just goes in and takes other people’s territories. maybe the position will change a little in the east, whether or not they will remain neutral, including turkey. and what
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do you know about turkey? i think it was interesting it will be interesting to follow the evolution of turkey's views after these statements. it is quite possible that they will limit themselves to traditional statements about non-recognition and the territorial integrity of ukraine. well, most likely i i think that will be the case. it seems to me that the key key reaction is what we could observe in the last few months, that is, the children of the dynamics, and the inserted third world countries of the third world, or the collective uh, from the collective south before the war, this is a defeat the russians near kharkov, just as soon as such a real defeat occurs and everyone sees this and that - accordingly, in the press, in the statements and in
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public opinion, there are many critical remarks about russia and, in fact, more attention to ukraine, and therefore i do not foresee that myself the fact of these actions, it can somehow affect the position of the collective cock, but the defeat of the russian army will undoubtedly affect their attitude to russia and to this war in general. that russia will not lag behind to fulfill the role well, which one did she play in the middle east, because she returned to the middle east, moscow returned to the middle east in order to move the same uh-uh
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americans, yes, that is, to create some kind of alternative to unipolar education as they stated that part of the arabs and part of the representatives of the political class of arab societies who, for one reason or another, are not satisfied with the american policy in the middle east, in particular, of course, they welcomed the appearance of moscow as such an alternative alternative player well, just like the appearance of the ska of the same china and that is a defeat, and there this world is quite tough from the point of view of reality and the defeat of russia. of course, it destroys all these expectations and they stop at least hoping for russia on the russian opportunity in this region, thank you very much for your comment ihor samovolov
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, director of the center for middle eastern studies, was on radio svoboda, president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi will address the un general assembly remotely during the high-level week of last on friday, the un assembly adopted a resolution that allows zelensky to participate in the high- level week in a remote format, one hundred and one un member states voted for it, seven of them opposed, of course, and russia. she called the remote address of the ukrainian president a violation of procedure in kyiv time volodymyr zelensky will make a speech late tonight , we will discuss his speech and the reaction to it tomorrow well, just now , iryna solomko, a voice correspondent, is joining the broadcast america she works in the fields and at the un assembly iryna my congratulations, what do you expect from the ukrainian president, maybe not you. and those people who gathered at the general assembly and in general what are their expectations from this
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event ? from the president because, as his entourage said there, the speech will be devoted to the war and it is clear the situation in which ukraine found itself, but here the question is that, in principle, in general, how much the ukrainian issue will be covered during it is the assembly, and this is clear, that is, it will be covered because, in addition to speeches , there are many so-called site events , that is, events that take place on the sidelines of the assembly, and this, for example, will be an event devoted to bringing ukraine to russia to account for crimes she committed and continues to commit on the territory of ukraine , for example, the prosecutor general must be present there, who for this purpose specially from washington reigns to come to new york , then this event will take place on thursday, it is also planned discussion, i.e. security in the context of food, this will be an event today, and usually ukrainian children will participate in each of these
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events and will highlight those problems and these , let's say, aspects related to the war that are important for us, and at least the minister of foreign affairs, dmytro koleba , spoke about this and yesterday and today because he started his meeting day after the opening of the ghana assembly meeting with the permanent mission of the united states to the united nations and led by thomas greinke and they exchanged the following statements in in the context of what is, that is, the united states will continue to support ukraine until victory. and accordingly, such a statement from our minister was that ukraine is very grateful for the support. yes, but we must now think about how to protect the peace that we get after the victory what is this war and the actions of russia? they have completely changed the architecture and security of the world, and in the context of food security and nuclear security, and these are all the challenges that need to be solved now, and of course they will talk about it. iryna, thank you very much. iryna solomko, a
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voice of america correspondent who will be following the un general assembly. well, i will remind you that volodymyr zelensky will speak late tonight in a remote format before the general assembly, and we will discuss his speech and the reactions to it tomorrow . i just saw that the russian media are reporting that a statement is expected from russian president vladimir putin regarding the so-called referendums on the occupied ukrainian territories. he is supposed to make a statement today at eight o'clock in the evening, we will monitor kyiv and we will also inform you. and finally, traditionally, i encourage you to subscribe to the pages of radio freedom and on social networks instagram telegram twitter where you are comfortable. and also viber, and two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio freedom ukraine where we are we publish exclusive reports, in particular, from the front line, from the liberated ukrainian settlements , and the freedom life program will return to the
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air tomorrow, even think about everything for a long time, throw these thoughts out of your head nazivin, the sense is already in effect 25 seconds and takes care of the slime-bearer in case of death nazivin sensets do not need to wait to breathe in the cockpits of airplanes behind the monitors of radar stations at the control points of anti-aircraft missile systems at thousands of combat positions throughout the territory of our country, they are bringing victory closer every day. kudos to the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, congratulations to all
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