at first he even won a little under the orders of belgium, luxemburg, and then the allies added strength and putin lost. well, he actually lost the war, and then there was another, uh, another battle there, to a lesser extent , but here is this attempt under the ardennes to turn the tide of the war in the 45th year, when everything is clear. well, it was hitler. it was a different person . putin will not suit artemy. well, what will he say? we will hear and see. thank you for being with us today . this evening, i say goodbye to you. see you tomorrow. see you in the evening. follow our news on v social networks on the espresso.tv website and you will be the first to know about what is happening and now our staff continues my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news are watching together good evening we are from ukraine good evening on the air of bbc news from ukraine and the release we are talking about the main events of the day 209 russia's war

against ukraine, moscow is in a hurry, the occupation authorities announced a pseudo-referendum to join russia world leaders speak at the un general assembly debate, russia's war against ukraine is a key topic, will putin's diplomacy stop and the elections in italy may come to power far-right politicians or will they support ukraine in the occupied territories of ukraine are planning to hold so-called referendums on joining russia russian mass media are even reporting the dates from september 23 to 27 ukrainian authorities say holding such

pseudo-referendums will not affect how ukraine will liberate the territory and connects such a rush of the kremlin with the successful counteroffensive of the ukrainian armed forces. this is under his minister of foreign affairs kuleba anya fake referendums anya hybrid mobilization will not change anything ukraine will continue to liberate territories of its territory in order not to be told in russia, and this is happening against the background of the ukrainian counteroffensive, the ukrainian military took control of belorivka in the luhansk region, the head of the luhansk administration, serhii gaidai, previously stated this it appeared on the network that the activity of the occupation administrations coincided with the activity of the russian state duma, which just as hastily passed a law introducing into the criminal code the concept of mobilization, the state of war, and the punishment for desertion and voluntary surrender, and a few hours ago, the russian mass media reported that today putin will address the russians, and at the same time, several russian state changes, with

reference to journalists from the kremlin pool , write something, and the russian defense minister serhiy will also make an address that his ukrainian counteroffensive is important for understanding all these statements about the so-called referenda it is an interesting time when the ukrainians are continuing their counteroffensive, for example, the ukrainians announced that they managed to recapture a village in the luhansk region, this is indicative because even though it is a small settlement there, this means that the armed forces of ukraine returned to the luhansk region in july, in that region the russians, as they themselves declared established full control, but it seems that now the ukrainians are advancing there and have already returned part of the territory, according to the governor of the region . and today, the local authorities appointed by the russians announced that they are going to carry out

there is a referendum from september 23 to decide whether this region will join russia, at the same time, russian high-ranking officials say that it is important for russia to annex this region, because then moscow will be able to defend it with military means. it is clear that the ukrainians rejected this . president zelenskyi's advisor stated that this is russia's reaction to its defeat on the field . for domestic affairs, the adviser to the head of the president's office, mykhailo podolyak, thinks so. here are his words: attempts by russian propaganda to cover up the defeats of its army, illusions of control over the temporarily occupied territories are meaningless. holding such so-called referendums will not change anything for ukraine or for ukrainian partners. these are the words of

podolyak, and here's more the assessment of the american analytical center, the institute for the study of war, previously called the statements of the militants of the declared dpr and lpr with a request for an urgent sign and not urgent annexation as a sign that ukraine's counterattack in the north causes panic in these puppet formations and experts write that russian forces do not fully control the donetsk luhansk region, so partial annexation at this stage will put the kremlin in a strange, even humiliating position, in the end it will be necessary to demand that ukrainian troops do not occupy the territory so analysts believe that this is the first western reaction to the so-called referendums. it is quite predictable, so german chancellor scholl said that the country does not recognize duda said that the referendum organized by russia is worthless , the nato general, fake referendums are an escalation of putin's war and macron's presentation called

the russian referendums in donbas and southern ukraine a travesty and a tragic idea . yevgeny makhta, the director of the institute of world politics, is in touch with us yevgeny i welcome you to our broadcast. and just a few weeks ago, the russian mass media wrote that the issues of these pseudo-referendums in the kremlin have been put on hold, so why is there such activity now, good evening, these are really pseudo-referendums, and the activity is connected with only one thing: that the ukrainian troops liberated almost the entire kharkiv region, and yesterday documents were made public about how the corresponding pseudo-referendum was supposed to be held there, although russian troops maintain control over a small part of the kharkiv region, i have a logical question: why will the so-called referendum not be held there,

and i think the question is that it is obvious that today during the day they call it a referendum in moscow and call it a referendum in russian collaborators is not even a parody, it is a mockery of the very word referendum. okay, but if, after all, these pseudo-referendums are held in these occupied territories, it will change something, it will have some significance in principle. i think that no civilized the country does not recognize the results of this action, i cannot imagine at all how it is possible to recognize a referendum where there will be a week from its announcement to its holding, it will even break the record of russia in occupied crimea, if you remember in march 2014 , there was also a pseudo-referendum on the annexation of the peninsula to russia, and now it

will not change anything, because the ukrainian political leadership expresses its position clearly enough that ukraine will completely liberate its territory within the borders that are recognized by the world community on december 1, 1991, there should be no doubts about this, and we have already heard that this is the first reaction from international leaders that this is unacceptable and will certainly not have any meaning and influence. at the same time, if you look at what is happening in russia, these amendments are being made to the criminal code, which provide for punishment for voluntary surrender and punishment for desertion. this is a kind of preparation for mobilization. i think that the word mobilization scares russia and the russian government very much because mobilization and war as such is actually a declaration of war and not a so

-called special military operation, the term used by russia since february 24, 2022 is absolutely not what the majority likes to the majority of russians, if the war comes to every russian home in this way, the situation of the russian government will deteriorate significantly, i have no doubts about this, since the war at the subconscious level, after long-term exploitation by soviet and russian propaganda, is perceived as something extremely terrible in russia, and the russians did not have much sympathy for the ukrainians because of the horrors that our citizens have had to experience since february 24. well, if they choose war, it will be their choice, and in russia, war is the same they call it an official war, it is even prohibited by law - it is a special military

operation, but now there is a message that putin may appeal that he may appeal with some statements. in your opinion, what are putin's next steps against the background of all these statements about pseudo-referendums? i think that he will announce his readiness to accept these parts into the russian federation already in the process today. medvedev said that there will be decisive geopolitical changes, but i think that decisive geopolitical changes will consist of something else in our lifetime and in the lifetime of the vast majority of our viewers, we will see how the russian federation collapsed into dozens of independent states. this will be the result of putin's adventure. and for putin himself, i hope that an international tribunal will be waiting. this will be the well-deserved finale of his ukrainian adventure.

adventures as you say, putin is ready to enter, well , nuclear terrorism was literally yesterday, will there be a tactical nuclear strike ? mykhailo zabrotsky is that even russia's use of tactical nuclear weapons will not stop the resistance of ukraine and will not stop the process of liberating the ukrainian territories occupied by russia. debates of the un general assembly starting in new york world leaders have already gathered there remotely with a pre-recorded video before the general assembly and only president zelensky will speak with kyiv made an exception for him, and due to the fact that many world leaders were heading to new york from london immediately after the funeral of queen elizabeth

ii, changes were made to the assembly's work schedule, which is why biden will speak tomorrow on the second day of the debate ivane on the first day, as it usually happened, the correspondent the bbc will only tell what we can expect in the coming days from the leaders who are present at the assembly and from those who will not appear in new york, security measures are being tightened for all of manhattan, traffic jams are binding traditional signs at the beginning of the un general assembly, heads of state and government head here in long processions every year to discuss the most difficult issues. one of the main topics this year is the war in ukraine. for the first time, europe has witnessed such a significant military conflict since the second world war. russia and china, on the other hand, are competing for world domination; geostrategic disagreements that divide us have existed since at least the cold war, they paralyze global capacity

respond to the challenges we face , our world is ravaged by war, suffering from climate chaos, frightened by hatred , shamed by poverty, hunger and inequality . with respect, the majority of the un voted to allow him to address the delegates virtually, this is an exception to the rule, as usually leaders must be present to have western officials plan to meet with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, who will be at the general assembly, but have ruled out any possibility of diplomatic meetings with the russians. we are firmly convinced that we cannot deal with the russian federation as it was before. the countries here, especially the countries of the south, do not want to. so that the war in ukraine completely overshadows other key

issues due to the war, the fight against climate change stops and the global food crisis worsens, hence high-level meetings it is also planned before this even before overcoming covid and monkeypox, the presidents of china and russia will not come to the assembly, but he considers this week as a chance to find certain solutions and this is an ambitious goal in view of the current geopolitical differences and if we talk about today's speeches at genasom legion it is worth paying attention to what the president of turkey said, because these are her reprimands. he was more reserved in his assessments than in an interview with the american tv channel pbs when he said that putin , whom he called putin, by the way, a dear friend wants to end the war as soon as possible erdogan met with putin last week in uzbekistan at the summit of the shanghai cooperation organization at the general assembly, erdogan said that it is necessary to get out of the current crisis with dignity and this can only be done diplomatically from the first day of the

conflict in ukraine, which has been going on for the seventh month . with the opinion that there can be no winners in war as well as in peace. today we emphasize the key role of dialogue and diplomacy in solving the current crisis and with the understanding of this we are also making efforts to contact us, the president of the ukrainian foreign policy association, who at one time represented ukraine at the un, volodymyr khandogiy, volodymyr, i welcome you on the air. if we talk about the un, let's start with the un security council, we see that the work of the un security council is practically blocked due to russia's veto herbest ca n't do anything to stop putin in the general assembly , is there any possibility to do it, well, look at the un today with its inability

, especially the issue of war, especially the issue of aggression against ukraine on the part of the russian federation and it depends on the fact that in the un charter there is such a norm as legal and which are used by the permanent members of the russian federation, in particular, whether we like it or not . to allow the security council to play its statutory role, it is necessary to change the statute, it is not necessary to introduce those high-quality cases. today, it is only of an advisory nature. although i believe that the potential of the security council is not fully used it is necessary to show simply creative approaches, now there is no time to thoroughly discuss these specific proposals, but among them there are provisions that are

not fully implemented, in particular, there is also article 27 regarding voting in the security council, where, for example, the parties to the conflict should not participate in the voting , thereby giving the possibility of solving the issue of the general assembly, there is such a resolution 377 unity for the benefit of peace, which provides that when the security council is not in a position to resolve a conflict that threatens international peace and security, then it takes over these functions, so there is a moment, as i say, and the rump is past, how to say it, in order to solve the problem, you need to show flexibility and creativity in your approaches. i don't think that room for maneuvers should be used. i think that it will hardly be a motive to sound in the speeches of many

delegates, if not everyone just needs to realize that this is the first time the general assembly meets in such circumstances, the first time since the second world war that the general assembly is being held in the conditions of a new war unleashed by the russian federation, here it will be it is interesting, first of all, to hear the reaction of the vast majority of countries in the world, how they assess the situation that has developed, er, i think it is important for us today, well, it is extremely important to use this session to increase the number of supporters. you know, unequivocally supporting ukraine in our war against the russian federation against the aggressor. by the way, the last bare question that gave our president the opportunity to act as a

special general is, so to speak, just as eloquent shows that 101 e-e countries supported it despite the fact that today there are 193 countries that are members of the un, of course they voted against there, the well-known five are there, eritrea, belarus, someone else is there, but a lot of countries somehow , you know, hide or do not participate in the voting or abstain from voting. so we a lot of work needs to be done and it is important that the president speak and, so to speak, demonstrate and present our position to a large number of people when you talk about the reform of the un, representatives of ukraine at the beginning of the war called to reform the un in order for it to be more effective in stopping the war, if more specifically, how it can be reformed and what needs to be

done for this, see well, we are calling, you know the issue of un reform, it began to be relevant on the second day after it was formed and it has not lost its relevance to this day, so i think that the main thing today is not to build some, you know, completely unrealistic schemes, but to try to read the statute again carefully. which are not carried out by the member states and pressurize in this well, i already mentioned there, let's say a vote like security, yes, it is necessary, so far, no one in russia, er, can already take it away, but not to force it , er, after all, to comply with article 27, it is necessary to try, recently the representative of the united states made such a proposal, it is not

new, but after all, it was resuscitated again to explain the vote in the security council in the case of the use of the veto, but then explain to the general assembly why this or that state applied this legal it is very interesting proposal i think that it should be promoted, it should be implemented, there was a proposal, let's say france, to abstain from voting on a voluntary basis, well, that is, there is no need to exaggerate to try, we will not be able to completely change the essence of the sun right now due to the fact that there are such countries like the russian federations that block such decisions. therefore, it is necessary to work on the implementation of the un charter in the form in which it exists today. if we talk about the

position of the united states, i beg your pardon let's listen to the words of support for ukraine planned today at the un general assembly. here's the direct speech of the us representative to the un, linda thomas greenfield. we will continue to do what we have been doing for the past six months, namely condemning and isolating russia and expressing our firm commitment to helping ukraine defend itself. we want to speak . how to make the un suitable for dealing with similar features in the future when a permanent member of the security council attacks another country and this is how the un charter turned into a crisis what does it need we will continue to support ukraine's right to defend itself against this unprovoked invasion by the russians, and we will also continue to talk to them about what

they need for self-defense, and how the united states can make the united nations fit to handle similar crises in the future. on its own, the united states alone will not be able to do anything, only together with other countries in this, so to speak, the essence of the united nations, so i mentioned that we must expand the base of support, and this is the key to us. so, if the law is applied and it is misused by a permanent member of the security council, then the general assembly also enters the scene. general personal special by the way and then to make a decision and that and if we create this critical mass of our support among the un member states, then the right of veto is not really scary for us and then

the general assembly will be able to make these decisions, and russia will remain isolated from both security and the general assembly, but for this we need to draw our line absolutely clearly with the help of our other friends, including the united states of america. perhaps, first of all, so that those states that they hesitate, what else will we say , they dream that russia will give them something, they should clearly stand on the side of ukraine and support us, and then the general assembly can be festive and talk about it. this is 377 that i i mentioned that she can replace the security council of the general assembly in our country, the resolution was actually adopted for that and in that situation when the members of the security council constantly block this this body blocks the

adoption of a necessary decision that threatens and supports international security. so this is exactly the resolution, i remind our viewers that this is a revolution that was adopted on march 2 at the beginning of the war in russia against ukraine, when the un general assembly condemned russia's invasion of ukraine and called for immediate to withdraw the russian troops together with the same more as that is, it was such an important indicator of support for ukraine, but at the same time, it was not completely remembered and was adopted on the basis of one resolution 377, this was back in 1555, please, the fifth session of the city council and it was adopted this is the resolution 377 became the basis for the adoption of the resolution about ukraine in which you asked v well, we also

need to promote this resource utilization coach, because this resolution provides, for example, the formation of international peacekeeping forces without the security council, mr. volodymyr, thank you, thank you clarified unfortunately, we have to move on to others . volodymyr khandogii, president of the ukrainian foreign policy association, who at one time represented ukraine at the un, and for ukraine the results of the elections in italy and the parliamentary elections that will take place this weekend, will be important for ukraine. italy is one of the key countries in the eu, the third in terms of the size of the bloc's economy and italy will tilt to the right, according to preliminary forecasts, the country may be led by the far-right leader george melani for the first time after mussolini, although her party, brothers of italy, was one of the few italian parties that supported the decision of prime minister draga to supply weapons to ukraine. although they were in opposition, melody promises to continue to support ukraine even in the event

of victory in the elections, but some observers warn that italy zameloni may become such a trojan horse of putin that can weaken the european union before everything because meloni promises to lead a tough conservative social policy in the market of balarov palermo, where the passions are not political, but culinary, talking at least with someone about the elections is not it's just friction, not revelations, these scoundrels are fed up, the man says, i don't vote, they should think only of themselves, a woman will open up here in sicily, they want changes , most likely the government will be headed by the ultra-right party of brothers of italy under the leadership of george melanie, sonia kapici did not go to the elections, it used to be like that when they quarreled and it's wonderful we women are the strongest here

we change the mood this is a zen suburb in the north of palermo one of the most depressed regions in europe youth unemployment 80%. they helped the five star movement political party to win the last elections, the coming to power of that political force did not solve the problems, so now people are ready to vote in a different way. we hoped that the five star movement would change the situation in the country. our territory was cleaned to make it safer at night. we can't even take out the garbage because it's full of rats, but here's the mood in the city of modina in the north of italy. other left-center people have gathered here to talk about the strategy of the movement and how to stop it. the far-right is worried that conservative

nationalism can endanger liberal democracy italy is so divided as a diverse country has always balanced between the government and theologies and has always been in search of its political identity meloni asserts the identity of her political force is not fascist but social conservative at one meeting with her spanish ultra-right allies, she advocated for the traditional family and against lgbt communities, this position worries same-sex families, we are more than scared, we have to fight with georgi melanie's strategy is to find enemies she seems to be dissatisfied with people all the time or views differ from her idea of ​​society i believe that in society there should be a place for everyone it's a democracy uh so it's a choice in which country they

will live what will italy look like and how free people will feel it and during this week, what will we talk about the upcoming italian parliamentary elections, the results of which are important for ukraine, in particular , eu sanctions against russia depend on them, and that's all for today read more news on our website bbc.ua, also subscribe to our pages on social networks so as not to miss the most important events, i say goodbye to you , see you tomorrow