holdnoyarivska e was 36 years old and now we also want to try to communicate with his wife, the widow oksana, is already mrs. oleksandr. good morning, mrs. oksana, or are we only seeing you now? we heard chub, because then there were problems with the sound. please tell me uh, the russians want to erase everyone's name, their people who are fighting are not important to them, it is not known what ideas for us every fighter, every person who defends the country's independence is important and that is why it is important that your husband's surname is heard not only in ukraine but also abroad that this is not just someone's nameless

hand with a blue-yellow bracelet and that this is the hand of someone who, er, did not just wear a blue-yellow bracelet, but went to defend the blue and yellow colors and went to defend ukraine, why is your husband serhiy an owl? -he decided to go and defend ukraine. this is his call and it is not only his calls, but the call of every man of our land, every warrior by character, wealth, to protect our land, to protect our children and protection, to baptize us as women so that we live freely, because we are free, my nation is free people and of course no one is allowed to come to our land on our native land and produce what is being done at the moment eh since 2014 as

soon as the invasion began my husband did not hesitate and immediately went to defend our land when we were only the first saw this picture and lesya. by the way, then she said that i, i would not want the wife of this tortured man, we did not know his name. i learned this from the photo unfortunately, we had searches for 5 months, because the man was considered missing, he was missing from the fighting in the izyum area

. i understood that most likely our meeting will take place with my husband, and when the first photos appeared, the first photos of the formed bodies, i did not have to wait long and it happened. it is impossible to describe the emotions even now. and what i am still going through, i understand your emotions , although probably not to the end, but i sympathize with your loss. this is a loss for us, for the whole of ukraine, it is painful because every person, every person who defends ukraine, who dies for this country, is

important to us in contrast from those of our neighbors who came to take our lives, the story of this bracelet. i now have a lot of all kinds of stories. i read a story about a father who recognized the remains of his son by the cross, but they did not give him those remains because they are not so convincing that these evidence this bracelet actually helped to recognize and at least know that here is the body of a man that he can be buried humanely and not somewhere in some nameless grave this bracelet is a bracelet that the children made for your husband there are two bracelets for really because we have two children and yes, yes, of course , since the 14th year, children have been given these two bracelets as a gift because the two of them and he never part with them and we even celebrate there where in

civilian life he also always had these bracelets on his hand, he wore them, i understand how you feel how hard it is for you to go through it yourself but even more so, you also have to somehow explain what is happening to your children, how do you do it , tell me hm, this is older, he is already courageous, his husband dug him well and promised such a husband, such a strong and indomitable spirit to him probably he supports me more his support is of course still mom is small and so with her with her i talk a lot because it is very difficult because for her dad was more than more than a husband more than dad

he was bitten for her oksana thank you very much for that who found the strength to tell about this story, the least we can do is remember every ukrainian hero who died in this war for our opportunity, including today, talk about it in the morning, smile, joke, drink coffee, and uh, i'll just go back to what i already said every day at least do something for the sake of victory, transfer a couple of hryvnias to some charity fund, buy a military bond here, in the end, do something, because at such moments , you understand this slogan in english better than ever like all-ko game some some game old everyone gave

something but some gave everything there are viewers who reproach that if we understood the emotions of a woman we wouldn't invite her to the airwaves you know a-a in fact i'm building that just what exactly should be shown eh those natives people who are now orphaned and to remind them to pass by whom they lost so that these people do not become forgotten so that we speak their names so that their names are heard loudly but these were not some stateless bodies that were thrown in the forests by muscovites because they actually want we were nameless and erased from the face of the earth, and for us every person is the main living thing , important, and she lives on even if her body is no longer with us. she lives as long as we

remember her, that's why serhiy the owl, that man who went to defend our land, that one of those in something invest in good and i am convinced that it will bear fruit when his children grow up and they will not just be people with the surname of the village, they will be real citizens and they will not forget the memory of their father and will continue his good deeds that he did. well, also i literally i would like to add that we must understand that people die every day , and every such person has a wife and children, and in order to understand how expensive the price of our victories today is and that putin's plans were thwarted and we will also be watched by people who have also lost their relatives and their loved ones and i think that we are

supporting them in this way and reminding them of this price. well, let's move on. we already have the next guest , and this is mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine. mykola eh good morning good morning see we had to make a little retreat here, we have a warning, a conversation is enough, and i got it with you, too. i also have tears in my eyes when i see the dead, just good ukrainian people. to remember and to remind every time so that it is not forgotten. mykola, in fact, just continuing the theme of the war, the council allowed the demobilization of men who have three or more children . they left eh despite the fact that what they had, if mitigating

what can be said of the circumstances, it is about the fact that if the woman is pregnant, the husband left, he had two children, he was mobilized, eh. before, he did not have the right to leave the army. now he has the right , eh if he had a third child, he should return home to turun in order to support them, that’s all what it means. well, this is a voluntary story. whoever wants to continue serving, no one will kick him out of the army, definitely. this speech by putin, we are waiting for it for later uh, by the way, what do you think about this , what can we expect, can putin surprise us with something, are we ready for this, honestly, i think that this is uh, well, yesterday i was worried, like everyone else, i think, and suddenly there he will start saying something, after which

nuclear weapons will be used, but we perfectly understand that there are so many links to the latest nuclear weapons, it is under such international control that we already knew about it, he was warned against the safety for him personally of such a step, what he can mobilize a large number of people ago that his front is collapsing in order to somehow contain the situation. yes, this is a possible story, although it is obvious that this will cause great dissatisfaction. i think that another version is possible. this is his answer to pugacheva. is not necessary, and since they are both equally popular in that country, i call on pugacheva to add her to the list of foreign agents, to which many ordinary russians reacted. i do not want to discuss this from the point of view of ukraine or ukrainians this is their life, their history, and it should not particularly bother us. but if we follow what is happening in them, then we must understand that they had their pop star, uh, who

was popular not only among the elite, as their liberal intelligentsia, but also among the general public. circles of the population and here she says that i am the same innogen, that is, i am against putin and then many people think and we too. so we will lose, and against the background of the success of the ukrainian army, all the more he had to answer to ali pugachev with something, and now he wants to speak, this is their kind battle of pugachev putin you know oh, well, this is an interesting version, let’s do it now. i think that today everything probably depends on putin to give some answers or something like that, or some kind of démarche in front of pugacheva, that’s his level. uh, their pugacheva is our zelenskyi before the election, and the whole country is watching her, and no president in principle. well, the previous president lost to zelenskyi, and zelenskyi was popular, the only difference is that, uh, the popularity of pugacheva much deeper than zelenskyi's pugacheva, has a

much longer term and affects a much larger number of people than zelenskyi influenced in ukraine before the elections. therefore, it is obvious that this call was launched for putin against the background of the successes of the ukrainian army, for him it is demoralization for society and humiliation still runs the risk of somehow starting to investigate their society and and he needs to respond to the ukrainian army to respond to such a call within his country and that is why he historically tries to look for steps because what he he suddenly announced this referendum, we can't call it anything other than hysteria and weakness, you can't call it just hysteria and a slide, the fact that he postponed his speech, he also originally scheduled it, then postponed it, well , this is what a historical person does, that is, a normal person who has thought everything through, who has harmony with oneself and with those around one will never do this, it means that they have internal conflicts, weakness , panic, fear, it is obvious that a cornered storm can bite, can also hurt painfully, but still,

cornering a rat is nothing more. what is possible, as in ukraine, alla pugacheva's husband is a humorist and will become the president, although yesterday by chance, facebook somehow sent me a message. i don't know how it happened. they sent a video message of galkina, where he says that he is not going to do any political work. well, you have to understand that i started talking about it right away, and they are there, we are a star, we are already talking about stars or not stars. the country of the aggressor, which brazenly attacked us, and sooner and the death that we honestly want no one to attack us again, and when we follow this, we see it as contradictions in their society, if their politicians and their stars participate in this, then we must it is to speak in such a way that it is understood. and all of this does not concern us in any way except to see what is happening to

mr. bozevilny's assistants mr. mykolayovych, the question is what is the reason for the attempts to register a support group for cooperation with taiwan in the parliament, and lithuania taiwan seems to be the first country in the world to open an official representative office. taiwan is not recognized as a republic and it seems to me that we are at war with russia. in principle, we have absolutely nothing to lose and fear. that we can somehow anger china. but that's not the case. less what is the idea of ​​opening this cooperation group, what are the opportunities for us here, and will this work be opened? the first country is written by the representative office and ivaniv. including in the country of the aggressors of russia and in the country of the partners and allies of poland, we do not have such a representation, uh, we adhere to the policy of one china, but we understand that china is really

divided because part of the equipment that built a democratic society in taiwan. they live normally, they do not humiliate anyone and part of the civilized world and technologically advanced, including a-and others are under the power of the communist party, which actually established a dictatorship, continues the genocide of the gurs and many other peoples, and very often threatens neighboring countries and everything else, we had this idea from our politicians that now we will be very close friends with china, well, we can be friends, we can cooperate in any way, but we can only be friends with democratic countries if we want to be a democratic country and we wanted in our parliament to register an inter-factional association is not a single group, it is simply an association of people who would like to support ivan's cultural and economic er relations and for us it is very important because er taiwan is supported by the united the states of america, because this is a country, so my colleagues and i

were in the united states, so in honor of the name of the return to taiwan, make a huge reception eh and eh, the ambassador represents the seasoning there, they call her ms. ceiling. - this is nato and yevgena was very supportive of weapons. therefore, it is obvious that it would be shameful not to communicate with ukraine, but instead, we have several members of the verkhovna rada, which i understand the effect of not taking any steps to cooperate with ivan, this is completely contradicts the american course, our america . most of all, it contradicts the principles of democracy. we want to make a democratic country here. that's why i have great indignation. but there is such a group in the parliament, there are many deputies who support cooperation with colleagues. which does not have any status, which is definitely china's, among other things, it is

simply an association to maintain cultural relations, so that this association is because it is impossible to build and say that we will be a democracy and be afraid to take any step that all the neighboring countries are taking to sign practical processes in the world. well, it is necessary to decide for sure, you know, we spent a lot of time hoping that lukashenko last year that lukashenko is our friend and you have to support him and so on. well saw what that friend was worth, he gave his land for rent in order to find out who the european union is, the european union is the united states of america, there are many others, there is the same taiwan, what do i know there , israel, these are all democratic countries with these countries we have to build normal partnership relations and seek cooperation, they don't always want it or we want it, because there are geopolitical factors, but we always have a dialogue with such countries, there are countries that are dictatorial or totalitarian, like belarus itself

, there is nothing to talk about with such countries this means that we cannot buy products from them or sell products to them, of course, but we can discuss certain political alliances with totalitarian countries, especially with countries that humiliate the people within themselves in in principle, it is unacceptable for the country and the democratic one, and here it is necessary to make fun of other democratic countries, we buy weapons from the simple united states in european countries, and they help us and give us that, and our policy must be exactly the same as theirs, we must synchronize with them how to finally build democracy here in domestic politics, normal transparency of courts, normal distribution of power , and exactly the same approach to international politics if we want to be members of the european union and nato and we definitely at least uh yes we definitely want 92% of ukrainians want to join the european union and 79% are in favor of joining nato these are the latest results of the commission's survey and this is actually some kind of uh

breakthrough because earlier attitudes ukrainians were much, much smaller in relation to that war - that's what we have here are our friends lukashenko, a wonderful president, runs belarus well, now he will help us, we took electricity from him so that he could steal anything on the road, they took the same thing with russia , they continued to trade, they thought that there was a language let's agree, let's look into each other's eyes. putin will hear us, you understand, and then we went to glorify the communist party of china, well, you can't, because i understand that there are people, many people want to be here, and they think that they will be able to build a totalitarian state here, or at least an autocratic state, as yanukovych tried, well, it's impossible this is from ukrainians and unfortunately ukrainians cannot survive in such a state, you can only in a democracy in solidarity with other democracies because we know as part of the ecosystem here uh i'm talking on the computer here is a phone that is

a part of the ecosystem with a computer yes, we are part of the ecosystem of europe and european democrats, and we cannot replace our phone, which is synchronized with that computer, by taking a 10-year-old phone and saying that it can be more effective, it doesn't happen, right? thank you, mr. mykola mykola the princely people's deputy of ukraine joined us. thank you for this conversation, er, i think. for example, the one from which he graduated, which is now in that editorial office, is one of the problems here, including the law that he, for example, expands powers of the president, if we continue to move towards the european union, ukrainians seem to want nato there, the role of parliamentary democracy must grow in us, we have no reason to increase the role of the president by controlling the executive power, this dualism is harmful, and it has been a problem for ukraine for years and decades, do we need it or not otherwise , sooner or later ukraine must become a

parliamentary republic, it does not mean that there will be no president, but it means that uh, well, we don’t have a program of the president, it’s just that there is dualism of power that creates parallel institutions , i.e. we have those district state administrations, such regional state administrations, and so on and so on and similar presidential verticals, this all creates, well, constantly , on the one hand, irresponsibility, on the other hand, corruption stories of the temptation to plant authoritarianism anyway. it seems to me that every president, no matter what he is yushchenko was not, well, he had this temptation simply because of the very nature of the pre-olistic construction of the distribution of power in this country , but here, first of all, the people themselves must say no, we we sincerely trust the parliament. but with us, it’s the other way around, and going back to putin and the war, to mean the cancellation of yesterday’s postponement of

his speech to today, serhiy zgurets, a military expert with us. er, this is putin’s address and why should he say anything else about mobilization in it? well, really , the postponement of this speech was unexpected for me, because in fact it shows a certain inconsistency in actions or the presence of some such systemic contradictions that may even affect on such things, that is, it actually says that even with regard to the planning of the speeches of the russian dictator there, such chaotic actions are already taking place. at the same time, given the situation and the zoopolitical political situation at the front, we really expected what he might say next and whether he is likely to say today because it was said about the postponement of the russian dictator 's speech there due to the fact that there is still far east

he didn't wake up he didn't wake up now he will wake up i will listen to what i will tell him there, great dictator to a large extent, i think that this will probably relate precisely to putin's alleged support for this idea of ​​pseudo-referendums, which actually can be presented, such certain intermediate success of the so-called special operations and ped- this kind of internal product will then create conditions for increasing the number of of personnel who can be involved in combat operations to protect supposedly already russian territories a and b just changed their minds about locking nuts in the state duma when that law was adopted at a fire-fighting pace which predicts 10 years there for everything there for evasion there for non-appearance there and the like, that is, we actually see that on the one hand we are already creating some

such landmarks that our territory is increasing there, and then we are pushing our own population into the cannon m they didn't have any warnings and no opportunities to evade participation in hostilities . i think that this is exactly what is happening right now, and the postponement of putin's speech is really being repeated , it's strange and i'm actually rude russians will go to fight for some there the dpr, the lpr, what are you talking about, they still want to create some other dpr, considering the fact that today ms. natalya humenyuk said on our air that even fighters from the so-called republics are not expected much in russian hospitals and do not want to be treated there much well, in fact, the summer split of russian military power is getting bigger and

bigger because you are now potentially mobilized who supported putin's action sitting on the sofa now when it will affect them directly by having to go to war i think what uh of rhetoric, the understanding of reality in this part of the russians is significantly changed to in addition, that is, in addition to the fact that actually all the actions that were related to the recruitment of the occupied territories are connected with the creation of the conditionality of good deeds already and in monkaresh e-e of all conditional patriots in russia already went to the fronts now. in fact, there is nothing to do with the strengthening of manpower and precisely all these new initiatives when it affects much more layers of the russian population, because precisely they are the russian regime to create tension for the political power of the kremlin

and that is why i think that now it will not be announced in the general mobilization, but exactly this kind of behind-the-scenes twisting of nuts and the use of whips to speed up this movement of cannon fodder on the battlefield will take place, but the effectiveness of aromatic meat will be extremely small from the point of view of effectiveness, mr. serhiy well, nevertheless, the strategy of er-e throwing meat, we may be underestimating it a little. for example, all the analysts say there. in the west, they say. well, at least it is necessary to form there for six months and so on. well we remember that somewhere in 1944, they came to the village, took people who had never seen those people in their lives, gave them some kind of gymnast shot with a hole in kuza there from some club, or they didn't give them a mosin rifle there were bullets that were used to kill and no one cared, and you still managed to get to the house, they told you to go back and forth to

germany, well, that is, can we not underestimate the willingness of slaves to die mindlessly and yes and no, in fact, now we are installing the amount of traffic that to us in russian federation, we believe that it is significant, but according to experts, at least such a pain threshold in the russian federation for such a formation of resonant felt starts from 500,000 and above. that is , we have not yet crossed the threshold of losses that causes such a resonant reaction in russian society, now it operates with hidden mobilization really creates additional grounds for russian society to begin to shake , do you understand that the war does not affect them? somewhere far away, just the opposite. mobilization because mobilization by and large is a blood clot that the russian federation can not digest either organizationally or technically because

there are currently no conditions for the training of soldiers . to announce to the general public, but the increase in the amount of stupid cannon fodder now it does not affect the processes of significantly increasing the efficiency of the russian army, we see what is happening in particular areas of the front where we have long-range means of impression and where the artillery of the advance of the russian army is working, there is no, and on the contrary, i think that this option with the use of a system of long-range defeats is one of our ways to minimize the increase in the number of personnel of the russian federation, this should actually be taken into account by our the military leadership and our foreign partners. and what about the russian federation's stupid recruitment of cannon fodder? i think that the effect of this will not be significant. if we did not pay attention

to the second world war, times have changed and technologies have a much more significant effect on the period of those on the battlefield than a simple quantitative increase in the number of personnel of the russian federation. thank you, it is very difficult today . in the end, they will probably bow down, but well, but if they launch the military, then those cannons, the city can go quickly, you will go quickly, just for a couple of days, and that's all, only the lives of our people. they didn't take away those whose lives have already selected, let's change now the traditional minutes of silence, let's honor the memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died with a minute of silence