then exclude hungary, listen when there is political will, mechanisms can appear. by the way, do you remember oleksii ? russian gas, but today if there is such a position and such aggression of the russian federation, we will no longer pay attention to it, even if it will be very cheap, that's why the position with the euro is also because there is political will, just like with hungary, even if there are no mechanisms, they can appear in order to make a decision regarding the country that violates the principles of the standards of the european union, well, at the moment there is no procedure as such. dmytro is right, again, if there is political will, the procedure can appear, let's remember president zelensky, who said about an equally respectable international organization called the united nations, which has existed for more than 75 years. this organization was created in order to ensure peace, stability and keep

the standards of maintaining peace in the whole world are at the same level as they were after the 45th year, unfortunately, this organization does not cope with the tasks today and the president says that he is, well, such a superman who is already retired because he has uh abilities but there is no longer an opportunity show these abilities, and i think that the european commission, the european union, will not want to be exactly the same superman who has abilities but cannot realize them. i think that he will very actively adapt to the modern world and change procedures. by the way, if we are talking about hungary, while the countries of the european union refuse russian energy resources, gazprom is really looking for new buyers, the only member of the european union that is increasing gas imports from russia is hungary, and since september 1, it has increased supplies by almost 6 million cubic meters of gas per day above the contractual amount. china and india have also significantly increased volumes import of energy resources from russia only in the first days of a full-scale war with ukraine, they

bought $24 billion worth of oil, gas, and coal from the federation of ukraine, that is, more than putin is trying to find a way out of the situation in which he is currently. oleksiy, what are the ways in your opinion at the moment? if i could predict this madman, it is possible that there would be no war if only they know well, you see, with mobilization, we manage to predict it, it’s even more interesting, let me, uh, with mr. peter, we understand the energy industry. let ’s leave it to those people who understand military affairs, absolutely, absolutely, military affairs in relation to hungary.

frankly, yes, it is politically unpleasant that as ukraine , an oil member of the european union, it puts sticks in the wheels. well, in fact, the gas they consume is a waste of gas, it does not play a role in particular in the revenues of the gas industry. yes, we understand that the hungarian leadership is now trying there to balance between your interests and your political promises, let's see how it all ends, well, yes , i wouldn't create for the joy of it . what those pipelines that go to china, they are now er, well, they are loaded and you can no longer build it, it is not known whether chinese asia needs the same volumes, they can do it er, well, by sea and they are trying to do it there, there are also

certain restrictions the number of these tanks because they need to be insured according to how the secondary sanctions can affect these uh these processes in uh through the countries of the european union and uh and the united states and jason everything and at what discount they sell it of course better though to submit for a penny, preferably at least a little higher than the cost price. well, let's see, these are not the volumes that can be compensated for the loss of oil , otherwise they are already trying to enter the markets of asia , from sri lanka to malaysia to others, and there in a certain way, you can manipulate it, it is tracked and have already made a decision regarding the price market there, or for insurance, or in order to counteract that, they will try, you know, let's look at iran , approximately the same thing, they will do the same thing, we their calculation was that it will not be long, that it will be a year two maximum yes, then everything will be restored, then they will

all forget about it in ukraine and will be forced to return all five. there will be no such thing. although they are counting on this blackmail of this one, it will definitely happen. i am even sure that europe ukraine shines and no one will freeze. everything will be fine there in europe, the economy may fall a little. well, as you know, in the times of covid, yes. that is, journalists will say that there will be certain problems for politicians, maybe in some countries there will be rallies, and this is precisely the kremlin's calculation for that. to strengthen the opposition, especially the radical left or the radical right, so that it shackles the governments in helping ukraine , so that aid is not added, so that there will be negotiations, these processes are risks that must be anticipated, and they must not be mixed, of course, oleksiy, thank you. before our conversation, vadym lytvyn, head of the management of the association of energy auditors of ukraine, mr. vadym. we congratulate you. good

day , mr. volodymyr. union, and the further rejection of russian gas in europe, despite the fact that currently in the european union they are filling their storage facilities ahead of schedule. they are still talking about ways to save , but for ukraine, this is even more relevant because, well, we have, let's say, two opportunities to reduce gas consumption, according to gas, i.e. the first one is related to the reduction of e-e consumption in buildings , it is also a residential building. i am not talking about any community gadget project, i.e. the mars thermos, we are talking about banal e regulation supply of coolants, why do many buildings already have such equipment, especially if we are talking

about kyiv, new buildings, everything built after 2000? what if it allows you to save a lot and reduce air heating. that is, this is what we will even be able to do in a large amount before the start of the season, or if or immediately after it begins. that is , this is the first point that we should pay attention to. in other words, all the holes that europe has closed for a long time, let's just say, they remain in us and in large honest volumes, so we should also deal with this and do it as soon as possible, and the second point is related to the replacement of gas, and again it is already working more state policy , because at the moment it was last year, part of the capacity of solid fuel boilers can be said about the large installations in teplokomunenergo in

a number of cities, they did not work because the gas is dated was if cheaper than others er, well, cheaper for of the final consumer because of this large subsidy than other sources of energy. well, accordingly, if we say that we have, for example, wood chip boilers somewhere , and we submit a passport for these teploenergo, if i am not mistaken, at 7:40 a.m., then its morning value is around 40 hryvnia well, accordingly, a similar subsidy should initially be for other types of fuel, and this, again, made it possible to reduce the amount of natural gas itself in the overall balance in ukraine. even the prospect of turning from an importer together to the exporter and i repeat myself again. that is, we

are talking about things that, well, if they already exist, that can be implemented quickly enough and for moderate costs, the only thing is to set up this entire implementation system, the main system of motivations regarding this economical use, because if we take now there is a standard multi-apartment building, then it is quite correct to save up to 10% of consumption , and if we save hryvnias for ourselves, then for the state, due to the reduction of the possibility of subsidies, we will reduce save at least four hryvnias on gas, that is if we are talking about the population, well, the industry. this has been working for a long time, and now what i see is that everyone is actively trying to reduce their energy costs, first of all, on gas, and that's

enough it does this successfully because what we do with energy projects and we see it at a number of enterprises and we see it there . or through er, the heat supply organization, unfortunately , i am not observing this now, well, you, it should be the main state policy, that is, this year. well, as never before, i want to ask oleksiy, do you monitor how our gas storages are filled, the officials assure that a- and gas will be enough according to your vision and in general, what are our possibilities with er filling er hm blue fuel er gas storage for the future that we will have

enough gas to last this scalding season if we expect to use it economically if there is a putin regime and the podolsky military will raid the energy supply facilities and certain logistical routes will be destroyed and we will have to burn gas instead of coal in order to maneuver the energy supply, it will of course be golden electricity, but the system works so that we will have to balance it, then maybe we have to additional volumes will be attracted from the united states, from norway, from the european union, which are being contracted, and there is a discussion about what funds, how much it will cost in ukraine, who is the minister of these negotiations and the head of naftogaz, yuriy vitrenko, that is, these processes are going on, uh, they are also related to the prices of energy resources, we see that we need to buy this resource when the best

price will be in order not to overpay for what the resource is currently worth on my confetti 80 000 hryvnias , yes, on the market, and the population is selling, we will be there for 8,000, that is, it costs 10, 10 times, there is a difference, so i completely agree with what was said about what, mr. vadim, about energy circulation. well, i also this taxonomy is traceable because i am the author of the law on energy efficiency , which gave our esteemed energy auditors the opportunity to increase the market, let 's say, energy banks, and the obligation is for an industrial enterprise to deal with these things, therefore, unfortunately, industry has become and does not consume so many resources which it consumed when the industry consumes it, it is always jobs , the economy, taxes, etc., to people, now gas is

its own moratorium on raising prices for this and it will be so, as far as i understand, reduced there in relation to temperature limits for sure, you need to use the auditor's retest, you need to look where the house can uh-uh, how is it like a clicker, go and the doctor will tell you that your throat hurts uh-uh and it's not the salesperson at the pharmacy yes, who will say it hurts well, take these there, let's see for me the doctor said it's bacteria, is it viruses or just will give the right prescription for your house and the fastest way to reduce heat heat loss so definitely now i'm very glad that you invite people who are engaged in professional energy efficiency in order to the ukrainians, including, were engaged in this ball. and those who did it before the start of such a full-scale war, test houses, i.e. installed on individual typical points, i.e. invested more energy-saving equipment

. to do so mr. dmytro, even before the start of the full-scale invasion, we were talking about alternative forms of energy, and as an example they gave nuclear energy, can we now say that it is becoming relevant again and in general will have energy is being updated and restored, nuclear energy cannot be called alternative , yes, because it is and what is included in the base of the energy balance of ukraine, and i am there energy , after all, it has such a great historical value , including to our energy balance, the energy system of ukraine by the way, nuclear energy is exactly the same as gas, eh, oleksiy also said that progans contributed to eh. energy included in the european green course is part of the so-called green energy sector. yes, but if we are talking about alternative so it's more that we're talking about renewable energy sources. this is wind - this is the sun - this is hydropower

. these sources are, in principle, the stations of ukraine . that it will be like that after the war, moreover, oleksiy briefly spoke about the possibility and risks of being hit by rockets, well, there are some other possible terrorist acts of our energy system if this happens. and this is already happening enough. our energy facilities are already suffering from such terrorist attacks, this is actually a risky and critical crisis situation for our energy system , but it is also an opportunity for a faster transition to these alternative types of energy that you are talking about or more modern ones, so come on from this point of view, we will consider these opportunities and prospects for development in the energy

sector, but the most important thing now is for us to stand up, just as it is important for us to win in a war, well, in the same way, on the energy front, it is important for us to stand up and be we are able to survive and further develop our energy industry, including all alternative types of energy that must be in line with the european green course, to which ukraine has joined. it is still a long time before the beginning. of this war, i want to ask vadim from a practical point of view, how do the ukrainians prepare, how to survive in the conditions of a total economy this winter , well, first of all, reduce your expenses to a minimum, and i mean that, then we will connect everything and we will sit in the cold, but if uh, well, close it

all the sources of energy, primarily thermal energy, which takes up the largest volume of our buildings and minimizes our consumption now by eliminating all manifestations of the irrational, that is, we all have to start turning off our video, and somewhere we have to adjust such, basically, it is the temperature in the room, so that let's say so, we didn't have so-called overheats, and to minimize losses on the network, if we are talking about that is, it is such a series, which series of requests compared to expensive and fast which we can do in addition to the state in general, its energy shortage, the next point already concerns reliability, and if there are already two approaches for apartment

buildings, it is one, that is, it concerns the fact that we should have at least a group of people who knew there what can be turned off, how to connect something, pour water from the system if it will be long, uh, revision of the heat supply from the other side, uh, we have to secure our power grids in the houses, because, again, if we have a reduced heating connection, that is, everyone will start well, most of them, more precisely, let’s start with electric heaters , and in most of our houses, because there won’t be any, we’ll say to endure it, then again, it’s time to determine that if we heat the room normally, it will be there. one room, there are all three , for example, two rooms near in the house there will be some uh some kind of heating point, i had one planned on a large scale. god forbid that it will not be needed, but just in

case , yes. don't work or somewhere here i replaced myself with an automatic shutdown of a higher power and this can cause the whole house to turn off again in a number of cases eh hmm you should have your foot on a person again or there is some kind of electric generator eh back-up for the entrance that is, once again, at least for phones to have a connection, if we are talking about private houses, that is, there are more opportunities to insure yourself, that is, if it is of the same gas. is there any damage, for example, to gas networks or electricity networks, that is, here also, if all fuel boilers could come in, or maybe firewood, uh, electric generators. who has , for example, alternative solar systems ? unfortunately, they are not so effective in winter, but if there were

some minimal needs, uh, they uh, they can cover. well, what for some what a person is for others at the moment you need to understand, but you need to look at the topics, we are wasting the topics, that's just a good, uh, good picture yes, we see, uh, heat lines and, uh, they are very often either poorly insulated or the same they are also not insulated that is, this losses relatively air now they must be minimized as much as possible and all the elements that could theoretically fail should be insured, well, first of all, this applies to the system council. thank you, mr. oleksiy. can we now talk about the production of ukrainian gas, especially now that there is a war going on and in view of all the forecasts we hear

are always repeated in all the broadcasts that appear, i thank all our saviors, what a trial of 90 gas from private companies, and well, we have, for example, oil and gas production, i will fall somewhere in the area two or three percent only due to the fact that we cannot release gas in the captured territories , but now, thanking you for your word, we have recaptured part of kharkiv oblast, where there were also many of our wells , we will still try to restore there for production in order to pump even more gas into our storage, that is , unlike of many european countries, the same hungary, even the same germany, we are now pumping our storage, our ukrainian gas . de facto, as one correctly pointed out, i.e. to reduce energy consumption to the maximum, not only due

to the fact that you don’t burn, yes, more arturg , that is, more innovative, more technologically , that is, not less consumption, we will increase gas production, huge resources, immediately the deposit is located above the concentrate yes, and after that that we will definitely be there, we will invest in gas production in ukraine, and the market that was currently occupied by russia will be replaced, we will definitely reduce the consumption of the enlarged plant and the income of this gas, which will be from the sale of european market. we should definitely invest in our green development, our energy efficiency, our electric mobility in our green technology. well, not because it is ecological and good for the environment, it is more profitable for our country, more profitable for people, because the price of using such and such the latest technologies and the payments will be much cheaper than we will now receive this soviet heritage, which is no longer effective, it affects

the evidence. well, hmm, well, that’s not what we’re talking about, and we want to thank you, mr. oleksiy, for joining our broadcast. with us and we will add that information if there is more gas if you want it he should lift the sanctions against azogon nord stream-2 said the other day putin said that for this you only need to press the button i will remind you that the certification of nord stream-2 was stopped on february 22 of this year after that e russia on february 21 announced the recognition of the independence of the occupied territories of ukraine, mr. dmytro, that is the question of the european commission now, how does it perform such a unifying role? and will it be able to hold it, and well,

at least hold it? no sanctions pressure on russia, i am absolutely convinced of this, moreover e- you know, putin said that if europe wants to receive more russian gas, but statistics show that europe does not want to receive more russian gas, look at the beginning of the year consumption decreased from 40%. in the general balance sheet gas supplies of the european union up to 9%. from russia, which means that the european union is very actively moving towards renouncing russian gas because there are alternative sources of e-e, moreover , extremely important decisions were made at the level of the european union and the united states of america and the world gas community on the limited price of energy resources, including a wall on gas, and this will really hit the gas industry of the russian federation very hard and painfully. well, in the end, the european union will really give up russian gas, it will cease to be relevant for the european market, so russia can

say whatever it wants, but starting from the 23rd year, it will not have the opportunity to supply this gas to europe and there will be no need to renew this at all . or the future of our ukrainian gas transportation system, first of all, first of all, oleksiy ryabchyn just spoke about the fact that we are indeed filling our storage facilities with ukrainian gas, and ukraine has a huge potential to increase production. and this will provide an opportunity with the right approaches to the ukrainian energy system - to save all energy resources, including gas, and from a country that exports gas to turn into a european country that, uh, imports gas that is, we can, i'm sorry, on the contrary we import, but we can export sell this is the first second we have a

huge potential to really produce much more gas and to increase this percentage annually. well , the third one. i think that when transitioning to the european green course that we talked about with you, we also need non-renewable sources the family will have much less gas, therefore, in the european general energy balance, in the gas market, ukrainian gas may be even more and more over the years, but this means i apologize to olesya, but this means that uh, understanding that russia will hit our critical infrastructure as much as possible this winter the energy system is also under attack and the gas transportation system is absolutely, well, first of all, most of the pipes that pass through us, they pass underground. by the way, if we talk about these main pipes that we have, which are usually and i forgot to say about this kacheligans from russia to europe eh eh we can definitely also in the future when we will produce much more gas eh

pump it from ukraine to europe but until the period when we will be able to do it and this is also will depend on whether our system will be seriously, seriously destroyed as a result of this war. well, in any case, part of this system or not, and we will actually be able to do the reverse that president yushchenko once talked about, that is, this gas transport system can pump gas and from europe to us. please tell me. i understand correctly that the reduction of this risk of a gas crisis does not consist in finding ways of other directions, so the import of gas is also imported. in general, it is in the reduction of its consumption and the other and the other because we we cannot give up gas completely. even if we save a lot, europe will save 15%. let's see how much we will save, and in fact, i think that due to the fact of this winter heating season, we can save a lot

taking into account the fact that our industries are standing as a result of the fact that there is a lot of bombardment. so far , the occupied territory is that's why our industry is not working like it is not as busy as it used to be . thank you, gentlemen, for joining us today. thank you, vadym lytvyn, the head the board of the association of energy auditors of ukraine and dmytro vasiliev, as a consultant, were with us in this studio. thank you, gentlemen, after a month of service, i proved to my fellow men that i am not just a woman. i am a soldier, i carry equipment and weapons at the same level i complete the task and there is such a legend about atamansha nastya, she pretended to be with her husband in order to fight , they found out that the ataman was a woman only after her death, she was skilled in meadows and i will be 15% of the ukrainian army

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