his own leader solves problems and he knows how any problems can be solved with him. if he behaves the way he behaves with the democratic world, you mean that saudi arabia and turkey are a good guarantee that this happened , in principle, success was guaranteed i think that now the whole of russia will see that the ukrainian president is not afraid to come to izyum. this is the ukrainian president who worked like this, then everything was much easier. he was even afraid of the leaders of a non- democratic state, because there, mostly on social networks, they write about the fact that they were thrown to them there something was put in the ears or on the head, in the worst case, at the same time, the mobilization is in full swing, yes , because people heard. yes, we may have

heard about the mobilization of at least three hundred thousand russians . well, in most cases, people declare that they are not ready to go to war with ukraine. but nevertheless, a large part of them, about a third, according to the survey, still support and are ready, so not everything is so simple, i think including you you know, i would also perhaps be more careful in the comments, because it seems to me that in the issues, including the release of our citizens, when the last of our fighters has not yet been released and there are relatives, there are our people there, you need to maintain a balance on the one hand and a balance of silence when the process is going on and here it seems to me that absolutely all methods are good, and it is

very good that the state used various methods , including methods on the one hand of publicity and dispersal of support information in social networks, and in fact, no one does this to a democratic state banned and we constantly drew the attention of the international community to the same cages and to the threat of execution and to foreigners who are in captivity in the eu, on the other hand, we involved international partners in this negotiation process and in the end, for the first time in 8 years, almost nine for five years of this bloody war, we had an exchange not when we give more, of course, to russians, yes . usually we received less of ours and gave more to russians for the first time. we received more ukrainians than we gave. this is a profitable exchange now. of course it is profitable and he added another detail of the word, he

demonstrated that ukraine can negotiate with the democratic world and with other countries, and now we are with countries. explain how much saudi arabia is in principle . i think that it arose because ukraine used, as oksana said now, all possible levers, and ukraine applied. i think not only to saudi arabia. i think there were many other countries to which our government applied and those who they took on such a mission if they helped ukraine. i think we used everything, and this exchange demonstrated that ukraine can negotiate with anyone, but it will be necessary to negotiate with other countries . for the third time , turkey, if i don’t do it, partially

still accepts cards of measures, yes, which, by the way, are banned around the world, saudi arabia, it is not on the list of unfriendly countries for russia, but i wonder when they started talking now about the possibility exchange of all for all so what can this mean now and will this exchange take place under this representation that we have now and which, as it turned out, has an influence on the russian federation? is it possible that the chess player will change and maybe the leader will change? maybe she will be the same, but it seems to me that the reason they started talking to everyone a-and again, i am speaking now from my own experience of working in a three-party contact group eh. it seems to me that eh, we will now have a very large number of prisoners of the russian which federations can we exchange? we didn't have

such a number of prisoners that we were talking about everyone because they weren't interested. to everyone's conversation, now it arises, taking into account how many prisoners there were during the liberation of kharkiv region, it is not known what can happen now and how many will be now. to the marines, er, somewhere around 3.5 i calculated now, although again these are approximate calculations and here, of course, it is interesting in some way the story will continue to develop, because all in all, it is about thousands. now we will take a short break . let's talk about the children and how should we take them back to ukraine after a

month of service and i proved to my brothers that i am not just a woman i am a soldier i carry equipment and weapons on a level i carry out tasks and there is such a legend about atamansha nastya she pretended to be a man so that to fight, they found out that the chieftain was a woman only after her death, she was a skilled login and i will be 15% of the ukrainian army - these are women, with their work, courage, honor and courage, they proved that they are no different from the other 85%. there is no weaker sex in ukraine, we will see their faces in the news , their names will not be found in the lists of those awarded, they

are unknown, but countless, they report on enemy positions, they put up leaflets and blow up traitors, they bring victory closer, and because of them , the earth is burning under the enemy's feet, because it is ours happy partisan glory day in the family , love grows in the family, warmth lives, hold and thousands of prayers , the family protects and when it does not leave, the family is sacred and without a family, there is no nation and people, the family is unbreakable, we are a family, we are ukraine

, september 23, boryspil day, ukraine is indestructible, it was only a year that's why the war took away the childhood of young ukrainians, join the children help charity platform and help the ukrainian children of the war glory to ukraine glory to the heroes watch the film of the marathon of unified news for children for the sake of the future september 25 at exactly 21:00 the general broadcast continues of the national marathon, the only news in the studio working for you is tetyana goncharova, i'm maksym zborovsky , in this hour we will talk about an important topic, why is russia forcibly relocating

and taking away ukrainian children, what is ukraine doing to prevent this or return our children, report and find all information about children who suffered as a result of russian aggression can be found on the internet platform called children of war, the state website collects data about minor citizens of ukraine who suffered during the war went missing or were temporarily placed in the occupied territories and deported to russia, the platform was created on the instructions of volodymyr zelenskyi by the team of the president's office, the ministry of integration of the occupied territories, the national information bureau, the office of the prosecutor general of the national police and the secretariat of the verkhovna rada, the authorized person for human affairs, according to the platform and from ukraine 778 were deported, this one managed to return 55 minors and stolen by russia, yes, i am incorrect in the

terms right now. they are called evacuation, but we we can talk about genocide and we can talk about the fact that they steal our children, as opposed to prisoners, and you asked the question why russia does this. well, children are, uh, there is an absolutely clear trend that children are the tools that russia uses uses e-e to create genocide with our people, clearly moving children who can't stand up for themselves, who can't argue, resist, a-a express their opinion because they are completely dependent on adults. that's what they are the tool used by russia. we also very carefully monitor publications on sites in social networks created by the so-called russian rulers, and currently the military department of the

russian federation reports that 654,000 ukrainian children allegedly crossed the border of ukraine with russia, but you have seen the data on the portal is about e-e verified data about established children whom we know for sure were taken to the territory of russia with the surname e approximately according to the circumstances, nevertheless we see that russia is valuable recently, he has been just showing off in the issue of our children from mariupol, generally from donetsk region, from luhansk region, in the families of russian citizens, and the arrangement for all is to grant citizenship to our ukrainian children under a simplified system. this is tantamount to genocide, because to put an end to it, daria gerasimchuk is authorized by the president of her children's affairs and rehabilitation with us the cellar-ziskom daryna we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes from the first days of

the actual full-scale invasion, an initiative group on issues started working at the office of the president protection of children's rights during the war it is still working on what tasks can be said to have been completed or not. and this group has not been working since the first days at the president's office. it has only been working for a few months and one of the first tasks was to develop an algorithm for data exchange and - and the development of a mechanism for compiling a list of children who , according to the facts of deportation and forced transfer, were recorded by us, that is, this was actually the first task, and actually, upon the fact of fulfilling this task, a state information portal children of war mrs. daria i try to understand when we hear messages, in particular, where russia declares that it has taken away thousands of people and thousands of children, we call it

deportation evacuation, but then official data we receive only 7,000. of course, this is not only a crazy number, but it's just that in some mass media , if we take the russian ones there, in particular , we have to pay attention to them, because it is about our citizens, we read about several hundred thousand, and on the other hand, we have information on the legal form, in particular that it is about seven thousand children, then when we look at the information regarding the adoption in the krasnodar territory, thousands of children have been adopted, and this is a crazy number. these are verified children, so let's first understand, of course, the russian federation calls the abduction of our children an evacuation, but ukraine and the entire international community perfectly understand that this is not an evacuation, otherwise the children would be immediately returned

you are either on the territory of ukraine with all the documents or on the territory of a third country there, but the children were returned at the moment. what is the russian federation that carries out forced deportation and forced transfer? we say deportation if we talk about transfer to the territory of the russian federation or , for example, the republic of belarus. we are talking about the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. so-called, for example, ldr. is the autonomous republic of crimea in terms of numbers, if you go to the portal, you will really see a number there which we see in open sources, and the russian authorities announce it on the portal today, this figure is about 640,000 children, which is communicated by the russian authorities, but this figure is not confirmed by any lists, that is, there are no other than verbal statements about how many children they supposedly evacuated, do you remember uh, apart from this number, there are

no more lists. there are no confirmations regarding adoption, the same story. as for our number, what you see is that ukraine today communicates with 7,778 children. uh, these are facts that have been established er, according to statements to the national information bureau , including through the children of war portal, and directly to the national information bureau. and that is, this is a real list of children by name, which will be further verified. i will not describe the entire procedure in detail, but this is confirmed by a number, so when can we talk about some numbers with which we er, well, with which we can operate, this is exactly this number, which is confirmed by specific, certain verification lists, we cooperate with international organizations because we do not have access to, or to the temporary occupied territories or to the territory of the russian

federation or belarus, who are we working with correctly, with a request to help us find these children and monitor them in the conditions of their stay? and that's right, we do the verification ourselves in ukraine because we need to find out who these children are supplement the entire list of the maximum known information about the child, because it helps a lot. in the search for a child with us, oksana wants to contact you and ask what daria correctly said, that in fact all the involved processes will be later maria lvova belova, a russian children's boatman, has already been punished. sanctions have already been imposed. it is convenient for us to interact with such a person, because it is clear throughout the civilized world that she is a thief who leads thieves, but we imagine the situation

, we imagine the ideal situation. we win. russia has stolen and already invented it, we still have to document and legally repel them from that state and take it back absolutely correctly , and this is our position and it must be unchanged that does russia, well, first of all, i want to say that for each fact, the deportation of our child to the russian federation, a criminal case is being opened, a general criminal case is currently being conducted, where all episodes are included under article 438 of the criminal code, violation of the laws and customs of war, the office of the general prosecutor is being conducted the investigation, therefore, when we become aware of such facts , including the message of ms. lvivova bilova, but the last one was on september 16 with a video showing when she met the plane of our 125 children and immediately replicated their placement in foster families of the arkhangelsk region, the course of its vorogam region

, and so on, the crime was presented as a holiday, this episode was also included in this criminal case, and russia will be the same for this episode, that is, they themselves are already documenting even this kind of documentation. we they counted recently somewhere around 242 children, for sure we already counted, yes, because we also record all these things on public and official websites of the authorities, so daria called yes or you called about a thousand children - this is the krasnodar territory the official website e-e posted this information russian, likewise, the governor of the moscow region publishes certain things the moscow region is grateful to us, by the way, they provide us with a lot of useful information , so we all e. is a crime. that is, we have the geneva convention on the protection of the civilian

population, ah, hmm, in a war situation, article 49 says that the occupying country in no case, and let me remind you, russia is a party to this geneva convention, ah, the occupying country in no case has the right to relocate the civilian population from the occupied territories to its own territory, and even if it does this and russia reports that they are evacuating with the aim of preserving the lives , health, and salvation of our children there, and even the convention says that if they do this relocation for the purpose in order to protect the rights of salvation, they are obliged to immediately inform the country of origin of this civilian population, that is, they must report to us about each child and report what they do not do further about adoption and the russian federation carries out adoptions according to the procedures, and i want to remind you what to do there

. the secret of adoption and very often we are asked about it, and i and uh, a coddler, probably yes and in this studio , that is, human rights defenders. after this moment is secret according to the legislation of the russian federation and how dangerous it is, i will remind you that on may 30, president putin issued a decree on simplifying the procedure for our children from the occupied territories to obtain e-e citizenship under the law of the russian of the federation, children of citizens of the russian federation are subject to adoption, that is, such a chain is being built yes, citizenship was granted, they were put up for adoption a-and they applied the secrecy of adoption and in adoption according to the decisions of judges and this decision of the courts of the russian federation can be changed, the date of birth, the surname of the child, and so on yes, well

, that is, everything data, but there are procedures where the authorities prepare the same buttons about the feasibility of adoption, that is, everything remains the same, documented traces. absolutely sure, when the russian federation is forced to open all these registers and hand them over to our country as victims of this aggression, of course we can theoretically and practically establish our children which adoptions and actually speaking according to the eighth article of the convention under the 21st article of the un convention on the rights of the child russia is still a party to this convention, and they are obliged to return these children to us, because the right of a child to be brought up in the country of origin and to know his roots, his origin, as we see, as

practice shows, russia is not accepted at all observance of international rights there, but based on that, tatyana said at the beginning of the conversation with daria that this falls under the definition of genocide, which means that the tribunal will probably deal with these issues, i'm right, uh, i'm telling mrs. tetyana, well, it's true, and there's still uh- is an international tribune, because we have, in addition to the conventions that oksana has now named , we have another convention, which is also a signatory and which my ukraine and russia will sign, it is about the return of abducted children, and not all children there fall under the e-e under the deportees or displaced people, there are also children who were kidnapped , they were kidnapped from their parents, they were kidnapped from the childhood days of the workers of the russian federation, and

this is also a convention, and interpol should deal with it there in order to find and return these thoughts , they were already in history that we can take as an example, 50 children have already been returned, the final number is 55 daria please tell me, you can only guess from the parties what words were chosen when the children are returned, i.e. then you work on the next batch well, what can you tell us what depends on whether another 55 children may return, first of all, i would like to say that this is being worked on. a very large team is headed by mrs. prime minister, who, er, i'm sorry, mrs. vice-prime minister, mrs. iryna tereshchuk, who is the head of this team from the very beginning, and she is the one who deals with the issues of return and the inclusion of a large number of people, so that there is no false impression, who is working on this, and what it looks like, of course, i can now reveal all

the details, how they are returned child back to ukraine, they can only say that for some time we still tried to create a universal algorithm, which we really hoped would work in most cases, but unfortunately, such a universal algorithm is simply impossible to create, we were convinced of this. that is, every story of a returned child, every case - this is uh in manual mode, a completely individual case where the child is returning from, under what conditions was he, uh, under what conditions did he move, under what conditions was he deported or relocated, therefore 55 of the cases that you see on the portal today, well , it seems that it is not enough, but in fact it is 55 families who could be reunited with their child. i also want to say that very often the topic is communicated that it is important to highlight among the number of deported and displaced children precisely the

category of children who had the status of orphans deprived of parental care at the time of deportation, and this is of course really very important, but i want to say that it is important for us to find out and search for absolutely every child, even if we have a fact of appeal that the child was deported for example, with the mother, no one gives a guarantee that when we find the child, it will not turn out that the child was not separated from the mother. we have already had more than one case when this happened, and the child was separated from the mother or father and taken away , the parents did not pass or there were some filtering camps the detained child was then left alone, so it is very important for us to search for each child. actually, returning to the issue of genocide, i want to say that our portal is actually the children of war with its terrible counter, no matter how terrible it is, yes. that is, it is the counter of children that children were killed, that were injured, that

children were wanted, that were deported, this is an illustration of the act of genocide that creates and er creates russian, this is me to ukrainians. moving will help us to collect information faster and inform us about illegal adoption and report illegal changes all this will help us to comment faster and have a start this is very important the most important thing is not easy quickly document quickly return these children by this now a lot of people how to say further let's return in general because the children who were taken in 14-15 years to donbass who were held until the age of 17 they are already adults and they no longer studied in

schools where they did not know their language their culture, their history, they don’t even know some of their parents, or they were there, for example, in an orphanage, and they were taken out of there, and they are already adults, they have received russian citizenship, most of them will never return to us such a sad a fairy tale indeed, the department also puts a sad end , but we have to end our conversation at this stage. we continue our broadcasts with a full stop, and we pass the floor to colleagues of the public unconquered cities of ukraine kryvyi rih the iron heart of ukraine and

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