the interest was previously reported to the western regional department of the state border service from september 14, since the academic year has already begun, and already those foreign students who were enrolled in educational institutions until february 24 and still had the appropriate packages of documents, they were able to cross the border and by the decision of the higher military leadership of the state that since september 14, the passage of this category of citizens has not been carried out; in fact, the border guards admit that they received an instruction not to let the students out. there is an official document that mentions the ban, however, there is no document that would was not allowed to leave either. despite this, in the summer, some border guards let students pass, even this year's entrants, because they obviously did not know how to interpret the rules. we have a gap in the legislation. a person cannot be drafted, but there is no law that says that he has the right to cross. we do not have a law. this is the resolution of the cabinet of ministers in which he wrote a list of persons who

can cross the border during martial law and removed students from there. that is, a collision occurs. a student is not subject to mobilization, but he can cross the border border guards say that this situation arose due to a large number of abuses, trying to avoid mobilization, some men tried to leave the country under the guise of students because of this , those who really go abroad to study were affected, these cases were at all checkpoints when we discovered fake packages of documents about studying abroad for example, on the lviv-przemysl train, in one case, we found nine such men at once, since may , at checkpoints in the lviv region 362 cases e-e a report was sent to the law enforcement officers under article 358 of the criminal code of ukraine, this is

forgery of documents. aspirations , all your efforts, which you have applied all year, are developing about the fact that we are kept here as prisoners, they are just prisoners, this is artificial detention. let's go to european integration. if our children are locked up here, for example, my son has two group mates, they are spitters and they are already in place, we can see this despite the nickname of group a. my son cannot leave. as the spokesman of the state

border service commented on the situation, the chances that it will somehow be resolved have decreased, it takes time to change the laws, and there is no time since october 1, some of these boys are at risk of expulsion due to non-appearance it seems that the only thing that can help them now is that the top management of the state, which decided not to let students abroad, will change their minds, otherwise the dreams of these people to study at european universities will remain dreams for now iryna ostrovska yuriy melnyk espresso i don't want to thank our colleagues who made an extremely interesting and meaningful and a topical plot on an extremely painful topic. well, we understand that we should also thank the authorities for such restrictions on our students. i think that a corresponding petition will be registered. we understand that, well, restrictions for students going abroad, it should be decided where there should be another way, in particular, by harsher punishment of those who

try to falsify documents of the corresponding plan, yes, and in particular, it should be decided, no, no , the students are to blame . students that students want to study and use the favorable climate in the european union, so with regard to those from ukraine who want to study, well, we understand that there are conflicts and at the same time, we are not only fighting against the darkness, but we are also fighting. so, this is an extremely difficult moment, and i think that it is simply necessary to write it down in detail, pay attention to it, yes, we will invite mykola davydyuk, already with us, a political scientist p mykola good morning good morning yaroslav bozhko is also joining political consultant, mr. yaroslav, congratulations, congratulations, you wrote to me, mykola, let's start with you . how do you like this initiative? how do you like the restrictions for

students? references, they study in moldovan higher education institutions, romanian higher education institutions, polish higher education institutions, which one-day offices were created there just in the spring, and already in the fall, they became their students there, there are no classrooms, not a single famous professor, if a ukrainian student is a young man, a young man starts there , maybe it is a second higher education, but it's like global growth, and there are thousands of university admissions, for example, are there top 10 universities in neighboring countries , why not ? what are we fighting for? it seems to me that this is exactly what we are fighting for, so that the country will escape from the poor depressed zone, so that the country will become global, so that people will be smart, we understood during this war that education is our basic value, basic and basic need, and look at the ukrainians returning from europe

that who did not want to send their children to school. on the contrary, there are those who went to a european school from the first grade, but education became the center of attraction for the family that left or returned, work and family and education, that is, that is where the family stopped, that is where did they find a job, where did they find a school for their children, the same with the university? well, i understand that now there is a certain legal conflict here, as you rightly pointed out, there really are, so to speak, fake universities, pseudo universities, there are a lot of fraudsters who try to make money in this business by becoming intermediaries and, so to speak, equipping students with fake tim with all directions for study and the third moment, we understand that an extremely cruel war is going on. well, our state, in one way or another, as it knows how, very often puts certain veils, but the key question is how to

solve the problem in a civilized manner and what safeguards should be put in place and who, so to speak, should take the appropriate initiative that changes the core because we understand that this story is not about dozens of students, but about thousands and this is their families and so on i doubt that president zelenskyi or prime minister shmygal would like to take on this particular negativity, and the matter should be resolved in this way. actually, the two ministries, the ministry of defense, the ministry of education, well, plus, the commander-in-chief said that after all, he is for the students to let them go. well , i think the profile committee should be more active, the ministry should be more active. well, maybe it really is the level of the president if he determines which categories leave and which do not leave, but in reality, let's also say that i'm really with you i completely agree here. that these are not millions of people. well, maybe five or six thousand. maybe even 10, but these crosses are the global

knowledge that will rebuild the country. yes, let 's take a receipt so that they will return . also a tool, that is, we really understand war - it is a fact and this must be recognized in russia too, we announced mobilization there from 300,000 to a million, it is clear that we will also have a wave of mobilization, we will also need to replenish our ranks to resist this influx of orcs, but again well , students who entered earlier, students who study in serious, normal universities, well, i'm sorry. we have a record this year, for example, 20 students in oxford, this has never happened. this is a lot. for us, this is a lot for a country that every year if at least one was born, so to speak , ukrainian rich oligarchs, so to speak, try the way for their children, you understand, that is, well, the oxford students of our country are still brody. in oxford, our oligarch is not yet brody. the only one there who wanted to place his son, sheik, had to pay half a billion for her. to name a

building in his honor, they began to look at his son a little differently, but they couldn’t throw anything in there. i think it’s more of a story, because the guy who regularly tried to bring us dollars into british mice that's why they whitewashed his reputation, well, there was such a firtash, remember, the only one there, in my opinion, is not oxford like that, but look, he is now sitting in vienna and thinking about how to get, of course, a short transit through spain. but most of all, they are waiting for him as lazarenko the united states, where he will show putin, where he will show all this mosquito gas and corrupt governments in the country, and one and the other, well, during yanukovych yushchenko's time, that's why he actually has a very interesting disney -like future. i even said the future. well, he definitely vienna he is not sitting, they will definitely take him out so that he can see the world, because he really sat there a little , because yes yaroslav

. he has documents from someone who has fake documents and on a range rover. as mykola davydyuk says, how can it be distinguished for and whether such a restriction was justified? well , first of all, there is currently no official list of fake universities in ukrainian legislation or there i won't ask for documents that could not, for example, theoretically be considered grounds for crossing the border. therefore, unfortunately, we cannot talk about it until the state simply does not engage in this analysis regarding which higher educations are really real, which are not real, and which are worth to send people abroad who are not worth the trouble at all. it is extremely complex in its simplicity and simple

complexity, there is only one law not to send out, if there is public pressure and a social test to still send out, then this whole issue is very simple is solved by changing the law and here already the parents of these students themselves, these students themselves have to create a certain social pressure to write, for example, to the people's deputies, yes, all of them already have some majoritarians in the district, talk to them about how the position of the deputies is taken into account now in the parliament. well, why are we saying this, you can write for a long time, the training will be over for people who are not deputies, even less, so here you understand, the border guard will not be able to let you go, bypassing the law, even if you morally correct the truth, you will be legally, accordingly, not yet no one will release any changes to the legislation, and it will really be a complex problem, because i am sure that no one will significantly change this legislation in a week, 2-3 months, especially

compared to the low level of public resonance that, unfortunately, this topic has because everything there is this cluster of foreign students in ukraine who cannot leave now. it is quite small in comparison, and in order for it to be such a national problem as we have there, every year the politicians change tariffs there or something else, i think, or it is the direct work of the ministry of education which can take a day to verify those universities. is this some kind of problem ? why does it have to be a flurry and noise? can the ministry of education issue them permits to leave one-way in order? no, it cannot, that's why this is a legislative issue . so to speak, under the auspices of our wonderful prime minister, which is a temporary investigative commission, two more ministers will say yes , there really is such a problem, here are these, here are the ways to solve

it, and so on and so on. c- with the words, five kopecks together, money for just executive work, i'm confusing something. mykola, no . look, in fact, the minister really should have dealt with this issue, but before that, the ministry, according to its letters, sent people abroad, the ministry of education, so in fact for them, this is not a new job, it is a question of what priorities we set, indeed, we will now have an increased mobilization because we will have to face 300,000 traffic jams there, who will now drive this buryati there, but no one will be there yet, well, but this is a question of categorization. it seems to me that this is precisely the case. these guys are the future, yes. likewise , i do not want to classify people, but it seems to me that we will definitely need this global knowledge when we are rebuilding the country, because this knowledge is education - it is intelligence is our future - it's what we want to build our country on, and if it's cool, cool, serious universities, why aren't there countries that pay hundreds of millions of

dollars to build education systems to launch their students into the global world, and israel is there and dubai with an ara generator and south korea, that is, they launch students into the world so that, uh, they just gain knowledge and return to us. similarly, to solve the problem of forgery of documents . a certain yaroslav, if possible for half a second, they teach us a lot, they took the documents from him, read them, they say, you are on, on, on , given training, how did you appear at the session in ukraine? they asked you what the book looks like, what is your name the teacher says, look, we are ready to let you go abroad, we have a bill, you don’t look at it, please name the name of the university and we will let you in, and he couldn’t name it and went back home on foot, so pay attention to our smart, glorious

border guards, and if you are malyshka, you you bring me to the most interesting point, yes yes information appeared about a wonderful exit , remember the judge was stupid. so, the office of the general prosecutor and in the comments to ukrainian pravda just got hot."

because this cluster you know elite type characters there, the porters of the younger porter yes, some crossed the border, it is not clear for what legal reasons this cluster is really big there, there are even dead ends and there is a risk of getting lost, as it is not the most possible status for a person, because there are isurkis and all the others and a lot of high-ranking officials of different years crossed that is why i think that this is actually such a more complex problem. it has its own negative consequences because it in a certain way incites internal social enmity and because a large part of ukrainian citizens do not want themselves

to feel like second-class citizens in relation to such characters and any events related to the fact that something is allowed to someone like that character, and ordinary citizens are mostly not allowed, this always causes a flurry of mistrust, first of all, in the authorities , and secondly, a flurry of uh mistrust of the legal system hmm and this again. this is the same abstract and unpleasant injustice that would make many ukrainians vote, even force them to vote even for some marginal political parties that promise justice here and now, see more i would like to clarify the question, so to speak, maybe a big deposit, remember there was such a good idea that for those who want to leave, they have to give a deposit, i don't remember 5-10-15 seconds well, some cosmic amount in dollars from this, so to speak mr. mykola refused, is it possible to simply

raise the amount of the deposit, or is it not worth bothering at all, because this, as mr. yaroslav rightly pointed out , can inflame, so to speak, the mistrust of the poor towards the rich . 15,000 dollars for 30 years, he robbed the ukrainian budget , it's simple, but for a student who entered wales, for example, britain, or, for example, i don't know, in an austrian university, he does not collect $15,000 . people are needed, who are needed? yes, and why are they needed? for example, students, it students, yes, who can go there for another 2-3 years to study and then , over time, bring in billions of income for the country, yes, by founding some large company. well, and vice versa. paid just twenty at the border and they were taken out by all these friends with hungarian or romanian passports on a taxi of opportunities or on anything else. well, that's

why, in fact, i think it's really not necessary to share here either, because for some it's unreal, not lifting money, but for of other people, it's just a penny, it's funny, but i think that here, for the sake of justice, we really need to raise the question of who and who left how the battalion of monaco, the battalion of vienna, yes. well, that's not all cities there, or in london, someone sat down somewhere else. well, that's also why need these questions raise but it seems to me that students studying in foreign universities should definitely not be extreme , because this is a message about the future, but the discussion is necessary and meaningful . people's deputy of the eighth convocation former head of the committee of voters of ukraine and we, mr. oleksandr, good health, congratulations, good day, we congratulate you on the air by express, well, the russian federation is preparing the annexation of our territories under the guise of some

fake referendums, we understand that they will not have legal force, but in any case, the russians, according to their so-to-speak tradition , will launch blindly in the purchase and announce. the world because everyone assured us that no one will admit this case, but not admitting it is one thing - the key issue is to make it so that it is already very painful, and as far as we understand, the entire sanctioning package, the main sanctioning package, has already been applied against russia, something really difficult remains. well, first of all, if we talk about sanctions, then you know. let's say that it is possible to infinitely strengthen the same thing that the minimum price of oil has not been established, and

so on. and so on, it is possible to increase aid, including the armament of ukraine . they will hold and you know me even and i don't even want to use the word there so-called yes referendum or literally a referendum, so what they want to do there has nothing to do with any act of electoral democracy nothing to do with it, and it is there because of those countries, because no one, for example, what they did there in the crimea 14 had no legitimacy there, but anyway they passed some e-e regulations there that regulated the conduct of, well, that is, it was all illegitimate, but they somehow it was all labeled like that now, well, it looks like a fact itself when there uh-uh

they appoint or not appoint referendums and then in three days they want to hold it show for no more and no less video cameras. that is, it will be absolutely worthless legally, and any event in ukraine, which well, accordingly, the whole world will react to it in the same way. well, if it is not done for this, it is really done for the internal russian picture, and here, look, there is one more nuance, i understood a little yury, so quietly, all the cannon fodder of some one is mobilizing functions, and mobilized have no right, and according to their laws there, well, fighting means this

territories, respectively, in order to bring these people there to the luhansk part of donetsk, the kherson regions of russia, it is necessary, well , for the internal consumer, it is a legitimate reason to call these er, these territories their own, in order to bring them there, who are now being chased by the military commissars, er, mobilized, mr. oleksandr but for whom, what is the main target audience, it is, after all, the domestic audience of russia, for whom this whole performance is definitely, definitely, it is for the domestic audience, although the domestic audience is not that she doesn't believe, she didn't accept such things. today, i really need the russians. practically everything is done exclusively so that you can send these emotionally mobilized men, and no one had any questions that uh,

it's not legal, and it's not legal. all they will say is that this too, well, will have no meaning either for ukrainians or for this world, that is, oleksandr. for six months, they have the question that it is illegal to go and kill people in another country because we are not concerned about it. and what else, what are the consequences, what are the rights this referendum will give the russian authorities what else to do, what to expect, nothing additional, well , look, absolutely nothing will change, and not de facto, not until yura, it will change, well, it will give an excuse for their er bandits there er er 10 days to mush it's a rocket, it's like that, we're doing something there somewhere , yes, well, a new new series, where this

text is being reached, regardless, but it will be how we free this land, so that is, the situation - it will not change the fact, oleksandr, the indicator is a little marshmallow or the connection is bad, but thank you the people talked mp of ukraine 8th convocation former head of the committee of voters of ukraine here is the key question number legal, so to speak, they will not have frictions, but they will allow the russians to explain themselves, so to speak, so to speak, and at the same time, let's not forget about the russian nuclear doctrine, they prove that after they declare these illegally seized territories their own, they will already operate with their nuclear

doctrine, and here in particular we return to the story of the possible use or non-use of tactical, not only nuclear weapons, putin is stubborn climbs into the abyss well, of course he is imitating this, so to speak, his nuclear process well, imitating is not imitating, but his puppets have already started in the occupied parts of donetsk and luhansk regions, there in melitopol, uh, these pseudo-referendums of theirs, they announced there that they had started referendums on joining russia, an information agency the propagandist ria novosti reports this to the so-called dnr, they informed that the so-called voting is taking place throughout the territory controlled by the occupier, the so-called lnr said that all ballots were delivered to the polling stations from eight in the morning the polling places are starting their work outside the premises, it's like a simple premises on the street there

on the armor of a tank, they understand that someone will be sitting there signing some papers well, let's go, it all makes no sense, you understand the meaning of these procedures are meaningless. that is, we can list them, the occupiers can them to demonstrate or they do not have any legal legal sense but this whole story has a factual sense at one time in 1974 the turks invaded the territory of cyprus so where part of their population lived and so would speak to this story goes back to putin and his brigade, you understand, they used a similar experience , in particular, in the situation with the occupation of donetsk and luhansk, that is, there is no legal sense in principle, but there is an argument of strength, and here, in this case, the strength of our armed forces is more favorable to a land conventional war, but that's why putin is

trying to urgently declare them a part of the russian federation, so to speak, in order to be able to apply the russian nuclear doctrine, or at least the fears of it and everyone in the world there in the european union likes god. will putin use a nuclear bomb there against ukraine or not against ukraine ? everyone is worried because they live in their comfortable world and do not know what to expect from putin, and this is an understandable reaction. they come to ukraine. we can wait for putin, we can wait for the graves of tortured people , we can wait for the city of graves, further from nuclear weapons, we can wait for this, and then ukraine, the south will be limited by no one, and here it is already interesting, not a legal point, it is clear that they are legally insignificant. and what will happen after that what's next and we see how the amplitude of aggression and the amplitude of escalation is rapidly increasing,

because well, we understand that no one on the ukrainian side is going to agree to the fact that russia is occupying additional territories, we do not give up its previously occupied territories and do not recognize this, and so on, but it will be then after these pseudo-referendums they will say well, they wanted these four regions to join russia , now it's russia, what's next. now we're going there, i don't know the official clerk at the ministry of foreign affairs or at the state duma , and so on, they'll announce that they'll accept it, so to speak say according to some of their procedures, these regions and after that they will say, you see, this is our sovereign land. at one time, stalin did this, and in the 40s , they will cancel the citizenship of those ukrainians who are citizens of ukraine and there refused to become russian citizens, they can

make such a unilateral act, it will also not have any legal force for our people from there that's for sure. and if they just stay there as hostages, they will have no other way out but to take that russian passport and what's next. no, they'll just cancel it and transfer them to russian citizenship by order of appearance, so to speak. not in legal formulas, but in formulas of the west's readiness to help ukraine at the highest level so that the west's response is equal to the level of russian aggression, this is the key question, iryna koval will tell us everything news on espresso iro good morning to you thank you, colleagues, i really listened to you and heard about where they want and where they don't want to see russians, yes. in just a moment i will tell you where they are ready to accept russians. what are they