so to speak, not to the pictures, that is, the fixation of political achievements with further blackmail of the enemy . here is the whole content of the referendum. and what do you think lukashenko will say about this referendum, will he recognize it? well, what does it mean that he has already recognized crimea, but he has never been there legally? -e crimea did not recognize the dpr, he also did not recognize the lpr, well, he de facto can recognize the russian territory. well, what does that mean? what is the difference? the situation in which he well, nevertheless, for some reason i wonder what he will say or say if he simply says that he recognizes the dnr of the lnr and there is no need to recognize it, i will just recognize it in the donetsk luhansk region of russia, that there will recognize him, no one will ask to know anything. it's just that russia has such relations here i think you are all

full-fledged borders. lukashenko will not make a special statement. well, not if he does not, for example, does not recognize this vote or will remain silent, then he will probably be pressured later. i think that putin is interesting for that. for him to recognize some votes. to be honest, for putin, it is interesting that he could mobilize his military personnel, he said today that there will be no mobilization of belarusians, just looking at it. and this means that if there is no mobilization in belarus, then the possibility of an attack from the north is limited, and the possibility of an attack is limited from the north, this is one of the most important moments in this company because putin managed to leave, and it is shameful to leave the territory of northern ukraine, and he would certainly like to return there first of all under kyiv without lukashenka is in no way possible, another topic in

which russia also has its zone of influence, karabakh , armenia and azerbaijan, through the mediation of the united states, declared their readiness for negotiations in order to ease the tension after the last escalation. i will remind you that something new happened earlier. aggravation between azerbaijanis and armenia, the ministry of defense of armenia reported that the army of azerbaijan opened wagons in the direction of border cities and used artillery and small arms. said the prime minister, i apologize to armenia, announced that 49 armenian soldiers were killed as a result of the night fighting, and before this there was an escalation in 2020, and then he became a mediator in the settlement of the hot phase of the war, russia introduced

its so-called peacekeepers there, and now the united states is ready to become a mediator states of america, what does this actually mean, this is the coming of this region to the sphere of influence of the united states, this is, in principle, a rather serious problem related to the reduction of russia's influence, and not only in the caucasus. we have seen again what was happening in central asia, because in central asia, putin also recorded the fact that he is not perceived there as the main figure in the region, as the main figure in the region, the head of the people's republic of china was perceived as the main figure in the region. understanding, there is a very important moment when the head of the people's republic of china guaranteed kazakhstan's

territorial integrity and support for sovereignty , this is a clear signal that not in the west, in the west, no one sets himself the goal of undermining territorial integrity so that he and you in kazakhstan in on one of these forums, in samarkand, there was an armed conflict between kyrgyzstan and tajikistan , it was not just a border conflict, it was almost a war, because when we saw the video from the banquet in the regional centers of kyrgyzstan, there was smoke rising from the houses, which was very similar to the consequences of shelling, let's say is there kyiv or odesa or lviv such a mess after the missile strike, putin didn’t even try to settle it, the odc didn’t even try to intervene there, now it’s the end, they are already saying that they would like to exclude tajikistan in general, the kb, which usually looks like the verdict of this organization with armenia, azerbaijan was even

worse, azerbaijan was not a member of the road accident, but they did nothing to help armenia, even though it was about conflict and sovereign territories. yazan well, of course, in this situation and for yerevan, for baku, it is absolutely clear that russia does not play the role it could play . fuels all these conflicts because they are beneficial to it, and for the azerbaijani leadership of armenia, it is possible that it will close the state of the same kistan, it is important to somehow find a balance, and if russia cannot help its balance and does not want it and moreover wants that there is no balance, then sooner or later the search for those who want to find a balance begins late, of course, i am not sure that the united states can do something so obvious, but there will be some joint efforts between the united states and turkey, the european union, are they right?

otherwise, they can give an impetus to the settlement of the situation in the region, this is a transition to such democratic values, i don't think that armenia did not have democratic values. armenia is one of the few former soviet republics where there is a change of power and where people go out into the streets when they have no power i like it, but armenia is deeply dependent on russia and politically because there is a situation with karabakh, which we are unlikely to forget, and this situation with karabakh is evaluated differently not only in armenia, azerbaijan, but also in the united states and in france and in russia, that is, there is not simply a question as we understood it, the restoration of the territorial integrity of azerbaijan, there is a question for the americans, for the europeans about how the issue of the presence of the armenian population in karabakh will be resolved, what will be the status, what will be the azerbaijani guarantees, and azerbaijan does not want

to give these guarantees, you understand, and armenia does not want to give up the idea of ​​the sovereignty of karabakh and it is to some extent a dead end. but in order to get out of this dead end, it is necessary to talk . in front of a permanent negotiation process, the participants of which do not want war and i am peace, the problem of the negotiation process with the participation of russia was completely different , firstly, russia wanted a war between the landowners and the armenians, and secondly , it wanted its presence, and by the way, thanks to the second world war in korobakh, it achieved this presence what happened during the first terabatian war, she was able to strengthen her military presence in armenia and russian military bases there, and during the second world war, i apologize, she sent her presence to karabakh, because before the second karabakh war, there were armenian forces in karabakh, and after that, russian forces created a completely different situation, and of course , russia, as a participant in the conflict, cannot be thrown out anywhere, because its peacekeepers are where they are, and armenia turns out to be such a victim, russian

azerbaijan too a russian victim, let's remember that russia actively helped armenian troops against azerbaijan in the 90s, because at that time the azerbaijani leadership was not going to conclude oil contracts with russia that would the russians need it, she wants to include how to increase oil supply, russia created the conditions that led to the defeat of the entire azerbaijani army, russia organized coup d'états against the then president of azerbaijan, the leader of the popular front, or the elchibiy phase, russia tried to bring to power in baku its protégé of such a field commander, absolutely adventurous the figure of soret huseinov and even when the azerbaijani elites were able to beat moscow and the former first secret of this compaction of azerbaijan came to power in baku, which goes alif moscow everything continued to prepare this coup to create hussein was the head of the government. i remember

all these events very well. i met with the holy basin a week before this state natural azerbaijan and it was absolutely obvious to me in which direction he is going to lead azerbaijan if he becomes its real leader it was a terrible figure and i do not think that azerbaijanis are not victims of this approach of armenians of course russia imposed a pro-russian corrupt leadership on armenia just when the first president country levanter petrosyan was close to an agreement on karabakh when he almost advanced to the finish line of the agreement with the then president of azerbaijan kaidar aliyev, it was strong politicians and other things, aliyev is a politician of such a post-communist type, petrosyan is an intellectual scientist, but they both thought and cared about the future own peoples after this coup, which was largely organized by moscow. they began to diverge over a huge distance and now

it is a failure because now the popularity or not the popularity of this or that politician in azerbaijan or armenia is based on the ability to solve the problem by force, that is why the hamali president became so popular. russia did not destroy putin, by the way, russia , we will not reduce the appetites of any russia yet, and what is the role of turkey in this process that is happening now between armenia and azerbaijan turkey could play a very serious role because it holds the key to stability in the region, but there are a lot of questions about whether turkey is ready to

normalize relations with armenia without. the border here, too, turkey will be the kind of peacemaker it acts as in ukraine, because between the armenians and turkey lies the abyss of the genocide of 1915, and it is also necessary to realize that the recognition of the fact of this genocide is a moment that will not bring turkey closer to armenia and the civilized world until the moment until the majority of political forces in turkey do not believe that this genocide was, we will not believe that the turks do not think so, the great modern turkish writer kohan pamuk repeatedly spoke about the faction. is responsible for creating this is the handiwork of the turkish and ottoman empires during the last period of existence, the country was founded tatsurkombala was founded already after this genocide and

the defeat of the ottoman empire, but still not i want, and not for nothing, the speaker of the united states parliament, the house of representatives, nancy, er, wands. she stood and wiped her tears, er, in the memorial of this genocide, a genocide which, by the way, was not on the territory of eastern armenia, where she was located on the territory of western armenia, where there is no longer any armenian there is no population of a european personality. so only memories, so in this regard, it is also important, but what could be done without finding ways to understand the historical heritage and the karabakh issue, open the border establish diplomatic relations, find opportunities for understanding, create transport corridors that will not be extraterritorial, that is, azerbaijanis, turkey cannot impose corridors on armenia through its territories that will not be controlled by armenia itself, because it will not be

understood not only by armenia, but also by neighboring iran . things i have to tell you that what is happening in iran can definitely change the situation in the region because the democratic council that it will emerge someday will be a much stronger player in the region between three turkeys to talk in the same way further, because in the early ongoing protests, i will add some specifics, and the protests began after the death of a 22-year-old girl, a representative of iranian kurdistan, who was detained by the police for improperly wearing a hijab , because her family was informed that the girl later had a heart attack after the detention, but she herself the family believes that it was the law enforcement officers who killed her. this protest broke out completely in their public after the girl's funeral in her hometown, later

more than 30 cities in including the capital tehran, they are protesting the actual police violence and against the iranian authorities' tough fight against dissent, at the same time, women are tearing off their hijabs and pairing them in public. there were clashes with the police. e social networks instagram and whatsapp, through which the inhabitants of this country usually communicate, in fact, well, protests for such a country are a rather unusual thing and many call it the end of the islamic republic as such, in your opinion, these are not the first mass protests, they happen periodically once every 5-6 years, the question is always on the scale. i believe that sooner or later a revolution must take place because, in principle, the revolution of

1979 is not complete, we call it quite often called the islamic revolution, but this is a lie. it was a real democratic revolution. people who took to the streets, at least in tehran, and this is still the center of change, they considered the democratization of countries. iran will be a modern country even then, but the muhammedrezi leftists the then swindler wanted to act like mustafa kemali and a turk, that is, in fact, i would say that in general, it was impossible to bring the country into modernity at a time when ataturk was effectively the 20s of the 20th century and muhammed was a leftist in the 70s. in the 70s, it was impossible to afford such a style of managing the country as in the 20s, if there were contemporaries in chess with the contemporaries of the tatsyurka with the participants of globatsk, then we would have figured out how great reformers he was and everything would have worked out for him, because part of these actions

was the desire that there were people who went to the mosque and did not influence on political life it is by the way exactly that what did the tycoon do to turkey now, of course, there are such moderate islamic regimes reprimanded, but first of all, this is still a secular government, and secondly, one way or another, the secular population does not feel threatened even in such a situation, and we see that the tycoon failed to completely tame this religious element but at least he was able to tame it for the time of his presidency, the presidency of his heir and the death of the unionists and the shah did not succeed in building a secular state, but the people who went to the streets in tehran wanted that these modern changes were accompanied by democratic norms, as a result of which

theocrats seized power, the arrival in tehran, and i am a disaster for me, they can be compared to the arrival of vladimir lenin in petrograd in 1917, then russia also lived with democratic hopes, but the dictator kameni returned to the country and played the same role it's just that, in fact, it's absolutely the same, because lenin practically offered the russians a new religion in the wrapper of ideology, they offered the iranians an ideology in the wrapper of religion, and this, er, i think has become a collapse one of the most outstanding civilizations of the modern world, and i am not talking about the fact that it is one of the great civilizations of the past, when we read world history, we read about pepper, about ancient greece, about ancient mushrooms, yes, persia, but it did not go anywhere.

it simply degraded when it should have to develop and become modern, and of course the question always arises as to how much power the people will have in the morning to destroy the power mechanism, because it is all necessary to destroy this entire structure, this corps, the guardian of the islamic revolution, these special the services of the regime, force all these ayatollahs to go to the mosque and never go out on the streets again, destroy the status of the supreme leader of the islamic republic of era, this is how he is now using yutalaha to me, the heir of the golden khomeini, because this is the status of the führer, and by the way, you know ulyan that the current russian regime started to be formalized precisely when, after putin visited tehran and met with etal khamenei and he really liked that there is a president who is even elected by the people of controlled candidates, but he

the president does not rule anything but rules as a leader from that time on. putin has been instructed to call him a follower of a leader - this is also exactly what an expert on the constitution of the icelandic republic of ira says, these are identical regimes, it's just that the regime of islamic corruptors and puntacrats is covered by a mosque, and the regime of russian corrupt autocrats is covered by russian peace. but in essence they are one and the same, i would say uh, how can i say it shaty is quite dangerous and i will not give any predictions, but i sincerely wish the iranian people victory over this vile, cruel, bloody corrupt regime that the fact that it helps her to russianize the bastards to the ukrainians, and by the way, iran. actually, the official tehran has declared that the drones used by russia and the iranian drones that, for example, struck odesa,

literally in the last few days, have nothing to do with them, and it seems that this story is connected with some third countries with whom they officially talked about the drone, they just said that ukraine is talking about third countries when it worsens relations, but they are silent about the drone and what actually happened some kind of iranian mistake, or are they simply supporting russia, russia is their ally, she is their ally in power, they destroyed the position there together, they destroyed syrian cities together, they killed a syrian together, why can’t they be allies in ukraine, if they are allies, they are jointly interested in ukraine losing to russia won in that the united states was humiliated, you understand. if for the people's republic of china and for india and

for turkey it is quite dangerous that the war drags on because it is a serious blow to their economies and not only for the era, that is why putin created such an obstruction to the summit organization of cooperation, then for iran it is not very important because i was wounded by western sanctions, for him, his priorities are different from the fact that the situation in the world economy has worsened, for him, nothing changes for him it is important that the defense was humiliated and the humiliated state made concessions that allowed him, firstly, to get an atomic bomb, and secondly, to get the opportunity to cancel sanctions and this is a priority for them why is it very important for them that russia wins at any cost for any term and they will certainly help russia because you and repeat their economic situation is not the same as that of china or india in relation to china there too interesting story

media at least so far there are no official reports about this, however, they are writing about a coup d'état and its probability in china and the arrest of sidin-pina, they are writing on social networks that the former general secretary of the party could seize power, what do you think about it? i think that we all let's see at the next congress of the communist party of china, because in china things don't happen like that, everything must be framed by appropriate party decisions , now the moment of truth is approaching, the moment of truth is that the chairman of the people's republic of china, the general secretary of the central committee of the party is on his feet these days positions for two terms in accordance with all traditions of the leadership of the communist party in china, which will be introduced by the former general secretary of the party central committee vice chairman of the central committee of the communist party of china densiopinin none of the

top leaders of the country can be in positions for more than two terms ago after two terms write how the head of the people 's republic of china who is also the party leader the prime minister other leaders and a new generation of leaders is coming this is absolutely correct and fruitful approach even for the communist system because, in the absence of free elections, it is the only one that gives the opportunity to renew the cadre when for three decades in china there was absolutely unchanged leadership, and then in 1976, the chairman of the central committee of the communist party of china died, the prime minister of the administrative council of the people's republic of china, john lei, and the chairman of the all-chinese council of people's representatives, marshal jude, died. it turned out that the country is in complete instability because the people who led the country from 1645 to 376,

how many years is it? all of them simply died. and all the others were at an age when they were already being carried by the arms of the pioneers of more than the size of the era because they themselves could not walk and one of these pings was able to build an effective system of country management, all the dingpins are now trying to destroy this system and return to the mari system of managing the country, which is based on the immutability of the leader's rook. i believe that this will lead to the collapse of the current model of china's economic and political development. do you think so ? like me and other members of the politburo of the central committee of the cpc 107 in may, we will see it literally at the party congress and it will be a choice of the future or these calls to us forever and therefore only after his death, it will become clear how the situation with the

management of the country will change or this tradition will not be changed , sisinpin may even remain a very influential figure in the party leadership, may head the central commission of advisors, the military council of the cpc representative, as it often happens with such people, it often happens that former party leaders remain uh, people have the last word, but the current leadership will be handled by other people in these positions or there will be a dictatorship, but now we are acting, it is absolutely obvious that not everyone in the party operation wants this dictatorship and immutability, because they know what it leads to. mariyskyi, the leadership of china, it led to a terrible economic decline , the china we know and the china that was in the days of the moloton are different states and it must be understood. so i can't tell you that i understand

exactly what is happening on the sidelines of the communist party of china, because no one understands it , these are the kind of people you understand, any communist decks , they are like that soviet time every year the academy of sciences of the soviet union published a chinese book every year, half of which was devoted to trying to understand what was happening to the chinese party leadership, even then there was such a brownian movement that most specialists in political history could not understand, because one must simultaneously understand the communist style of management and eastern traditions. when they are connected in the same state, it's just a terrible mixture, in the end we have a little less than 5 minutes, and i would like to return to ukraine and this week was a lot of publications of various studies, in particular, the kyiv institute, the kyiv international

institute of sociology, the commission published a large study there, a lot of interesting things, i will read only one point, 91% of ukrainian citizens did not want to leave their country, sociologists asked the respondents whether they would move to live in the united states of america or to the european union if they got citizenship without problems and only 7% agreed that the trend is positive because the researchers compared a similar survey conducted in 2020 and 2021 and noted that the share those who are ready to leave ukraine decreased by four times in two years, actually 10 million people left, but this is not a very representative survey in such a situation. can we talk about such a paradox that supposedly, er, in ukraine, there are more ways to leave but people still don't

leave or, uh, stay in ukraine, there is now an obvious outbreak of patriotic feelings and mobilization, mobilization of the spirit, you know, because if you understand if you are in the country during the war by your own decision and say what you want with to leave her at all, then the question arises, why don't you go? well, eat, so if you didn't leave, it's your decision, it means those people who wanted to leave but can't leave for some objective reasons. well, i even have four more women there, that's how many there are 9 % yes, a man who says seven or something to himself, he wants to leave, he does not want to say this to himself for obvious reasons, because he believes that he has responsibilities to the state, even if a person does not want to have responsibilities, he does not want to feel like a hostage and this is absolutely normal

psychological situation. but i repeat. i think that today, when ukrainians feel themselves and their state threatened, they have such a patriotic urge, which is absolutely normal for normal people, and our task, as citizens, and, by the way, as journalists, is to get out of this patriotic urge situations when military operations will end, when the period of reconstruction of the country will begin, because it can be no less difficult and difficult than the period of its protection, primarily from a social point of view, you understand that in this situation, when it will be a difficult period and there will be no immediate danger and morally no one will think that it is not possible to leave those who want to leave then it may turn out to be more than this astrological survey started i do not believe the sociology of war at all and here it is very important that in conditions when rockets do not fly over people, when there are no explosions of their houses from a foreign army would not be on their land so that then they would not have a

desire to leave the country because they may consider that their moral duty to the country has been fulfilled by the fact that they were there during the war. and now you can live for yourself. it is important that we all can build a comfortably democratic european country here, when appropriate conditions will be created for this by our heroic armed forces, and this is the number one task to make it happen. thank you vitaliy slava today's two hours . of the week, the espresso news team has already prepared the final issue, i will remind you that do not forget to follow us on instagram, telegram, twitter and watch on youtube, like us and stay with ukrainian view of the world vitaly portnikov but happiness is with you