uh, everyone comes to order a monument, but he comes to the monument, it's very interesting. by the way, i realize now, after watching the movie, that it's really true, and you already understand it completely. to the heroines, who knows exactly why, uh, she comes all the counter is the only one, we started talking about the plot now, but it is about the story of a person who works at a cemetery and about the stories of people who come to funeral services, and what happens next, how do all these events develop , eh, before talking directly about the tape, i would also like to ask you and your experience work at the cemetery, how exactly did it affect your life? but maybe you watched something, maybe you discovered for yourself, it was influenced if there was no book on this experience, and in general, i can’t and i didn’t find this

direction, what do i want to do in life, the cemetery gave me such a clear understanding and what i want, i want to write, that's what i want to do, i want to tell people stories, both with the help of books and with the help of cinema, well, that is, it's so normal. that's where there were so um bright well maybe the words are not too bright, well, that is, they are like that were attracting the attention of all the heroes and their stories to such an extent that it was impossible to write about them, and when i wrote it was such a response... i'm

good at something and i have to do it, and i had such a good time, and besides, firstly, what was there in the cemetery, secondly, i realized that now it helps me in the war, i have to live here and now when you are next to death after death when a person understands that we are somewhere there er in ourselves there inside we understand we do everything in my own way, we will all die, that's how it will be, but it's very difficult to live with this thought all the time, because what people do, don't forget about it well, it's not with me, probably, maybe, maybe somehow, i don't think about it, it starts about this awareness and when a person ends up there, well, in a cemetery or in a war, where death is really close, where you constantly encounter it there somehow and you understand, yes, i will die

anyway. well, it is important, it does not matter at what age, but i will die yes, what did i do when i saw you? what did i already do ? understanding of a person, she pushes him to the point that now we take a break and and and what do we do next , we have to live death or a part of life and we have to live here and now, it helps a lot, that is, to live in this moment that is passing now, we are sitting in our room, we are having a great conversation the class is super this is very nice eh hmm i wanted to talk about it a little later but about this experience and what you endure for yourself after working at the cemetery and after you are now in the armed forces of ukraine and have people around you who are

constantly and you too that constant and danger and threats to life eh but at the same time, it seems to me that both the cemetery and the war make death something eh well, not ordinary. but somewhat statistically or what, you begin to treat it as something very scary and very painful, but something that is permanent, as if that is, you are constantly with them, you are afraid of war in general, it is always scary, fear is so different, well, there was fear, when you are there, somewhere there, in a point of constant deployment. yes, there . something is scary, maybe there is some kind of rocket. or is something

scary because one of his brothers went to work there and maybe something will happen to him now, in general, that is, fear is always present, it always happens, it is so big , it is so encompassing, and sometimes it is small somewhere there is a beating inside and there are times when you control it or when it controls you. it is still difficult for me to talk about death in the context of the film. i i will tell you at the moment, it will not affect the understanding of the plot, but there a mother orders a monument for her four-year-old child, and the employees discuss it among themselves, as it seemed quite cynical to me. i understand that in the context in which the name day is in a state of full-scale war ... not everyone would be able

to watch it, you take responsibility for recommending to watch this movie. i highly recommend it to everyone, especially to those who have recently lost someone close to them, because there is such a monologue in the film. one of the heroes when he says losing a loved one is like losing a leg. well , that is, you had it. well, that's what a child says, and then somehow you wake up and your legs are gone, so you have to somehow continue to live, you have to do something. and there is no way to do it. and here is this movie. it helps, it shows that what and how one should live, well, that is, other people's lives continue in any case in this life, there is a lot of other things, death is it a part of life no matter how

unfortunate it is, if it is not sad, if it does not hurt from what you have lost someone very close eh in my opinion it is he and you together with the heroes eh you are going through this path of reconciliation, when we were writing, we were working on the script, it is divided into five parts conditionally, and each part is a stage of acceptance of the problem well, it's anger there, and so on, that is, depression, that's all something else and this is exactly what the audience goes through with the characters and at the end comes out on that on this catharsis on this acceptance of life as for me i saw the uh reaquidai reaction i saw how people look and i think that everything worked out for us er, you write your books in russian, you write your certificate in russian, er, topics

no less, the characters speak ukrainian, uh, you had someone who translated it, it was even adapted, that is, you wrote it in russian, i wrote it in russian, then translated it, and then there was also a separate translator who worked there with uh, specifically with the dialogues so that they were there there were more people. it is clear that there would be no such dissonance. at the same time, your position is quite clear, and even in the 17th year you wrote a column from mida . moreover, i realize that i am dying ivanka as the final link, that is, i am finishing because it is precisely in ukraine, yes, in ukraine, there are russian-speaking authors, but hmm, isn’t this a certain contradiction , because you are in favor of categorical ukrainization

for what you are for quotas for what you are in every way you support this. your child goes to a ukrainian school and reads ukrainian books. explain it. what is this secret of the russian soul, and you are an ethnic russian, so i will suffer and i will not make efforts and switch to ukrainian. first of all, you have to be stupid so that there is a poem no to see certain and correct historical events, well, that is, now, we have such important events in the country, when the country becomes a country with all the features, with all the necessary criteria, categories with this and that, it is very

good because we will not be there, our lives will end , and the country will remain, and it is in this country that our children, their children, etc. will live there. that is why it is very good that it is becoming better, precisely because it has its own language. connected it's very good it's all first and second yes i ee i a russian-speaking person inside, er, i think in russian, for me, this is er, a tool that i use very well, it works, um, when i speak russian, i’m not there, i’m not there, i don’t have three needs . you are doing this in your native language. and thirdly, the books that i write and what i write about in the family point of view

can be read read in any language my latest book is now the rights to it to be printed er publish print bought one from european countries right now when i was at war i am for with the help of an e-mail, i signed an agreement on the transfer of the rights to the match, this is why the book is called babushka dies, disliked, about a family of miners, about three, about what you can read this book if you want to write in any language, write in russian, therefore that it was a russian-speaking environment in which russian-speaking people lived, very books, a book about the war , notes to which you did not go and write what language in

russian, i am even more interested in ukrainian well, maybe they will write me, eh but look eh in my there is probably more in the books than the language itself, well , that is, something that is interesting to people, people from other countries with other foreign languages, that is, maybe there is something other than only the russian language, i am talking about it, and it is still expressed in language, but uh, okay i actually, uh, i don't dispute this right, definitely uh, at the same time, uh, i clearly understand that this is a very difficult, complicated process . that is, that is, if you

are talking on some everyday level there, it is not a year two well, i'm fine. if i have to, i'll take some kind of language exam, well, it probably won't be any. it's very, very good. he's got a uh mark. but it will be a good grade. i've been reading for more than 40 years. i've read a lot of uh, russian-language literature. i have all this literature somewhere in there, and when and how, in what form, in what form, in what way is it for me to enter, perceive, this is what happens, it somehow gets out of me, i don’t know, well, you read modern literature, well, not very much, but still such a separate one such a moment when you read languages ​​they are very different but er, it very easily applies to any er language, he even wrote on the side how all

the amblisms in all his er stories are coming out of him, and it really confused him. you work, someone starts somewhere here and here and here and here some words will appear that are appropriate there, that is, it 's some kind of nonsense, it's bad, i would like to talk to you in 40 years, for example, in 40 years, reading, for example, ukrainian books and chi did you manage to go. everything can be. i'm used to it already now i know that i never say never, so far i have no other opinion. me again, no one, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, ever, never, ever, never, ever, never, ever, ever, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, ever, never, never, ever, never, ever, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, ever, never, ever, never, ever, never, ever, never, never, never, ever, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, ever, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never been taken part in any state competition in order to receive state funds for a book, for printing a book, or for writing a book, or something like that hmmm, i do it for myself and then

it turns out that i need something when publishing houses from european countries contacted me now i can't and i don't want to show when the book will be released i understood, yes, they said, yes, you know v we don't have time for russian-language books, it 's not necessary for now. but we want to talk about your book. we want to talk about it. do you want to ? i'm watching a movie and i know your position, but in the end, again, it's your right. another dissonance that appears to me. and i want to

know if you don't have it when it comes to the fact that in your movie, er, the role of er- the main role is played by the actor mr. seli, who played the role of a russian officer yes, not so long ago, well, that is, the war in ukraine was already going on, a full-scale invasion, the war is the producer of the film, maksym leshchenko, if i am not mistaken, andriyenko also shared it from the polish side in the 16th year, russian cinema is called the source of yours it doesn't come to your mind, first of all, it's more a question for the producer than for me, i'm not in the business of gathering the actors uh, you uh, well, i don't know. this is your script. this is your hero who has uh, the relevant organizations. works and work is so you sell the rights to

screen adaptation of the book and sell the rights to your script , and when it was there, you signed the contract, you did everything, and uh, you have it, the contract says what you can. to add to the director so that they clearly understand from this scene whether it passes or not and there are such questions as to which wave has nothing to do with the legal plane. okay, but about your purely subjective one, you cannot help but have a position because he was filmed there. well, as far as i understand serhiy has a very clear position regarding ukraine before the war is when you have a family in russia. i have one too. my grandmother is ugu and she lives there, she is conscripted, she cannot leave there , and i understand all these circumstances, but it is completely different to come to russia and work there, receive a

salary, join my financing i have this opinion, everyone is responsible for himself at this stage, i am - if he has any explanation for this, and it is probably him because he wrote something like that there and explains this question to him, and i have - nothing to his acting questions, he is a very great actor. he starred in a role in a planetary film in 2021. to separate these two concepts and you with this er well, that is, you can ignore it ignore the what about the fact that he er worked in russia before the full-scale invasion

when there was already a war well the real ntv channel in the role of the russian military how much i understand there , he also had shootings signed up even before invasion and there he that is, it was necessary again it is not they are not as there does not justify poor poor yes of course poor bad bad eh i would do that you would never do that i would hmm could you understand him well i guess surely i can eh what uh hmm now he does well he accepts what he calls war he what else what else is needed i don't know why i'm so interested in talking about it because it's all such a huge complex of this awakening of ours and what we talked about on at the beginning when you said that we are becoming a real country and that really, because there are actually a lot of processes that

were somewhere uh-uh such background subconscious that we didn’t pay attention to at all and what am i watching and what recommendations do i have in general uh-uh well, i’m watching, i don’t know any videos about design and now it turns out oh and this is russian-made videos about design no, i will unsubscribe, i understood that we are entering this stage of formation and it is normal, especially above. they said that this is also part of this such deadness during life. how do you assess the process of this awakening now? well, we are learning to live as a separate state and now not everyone understands it and everything is normal for some processes it takes time , they need to come, a person needs to go through it

, that is these stages are going on, it may happen that in a year or two the village will be ashamed of the fact that he filmed there and he will be there to do something or say something about what he was can publicly determine what will be wrong and that it will probably be very normal because that's how we all live in what layers, that is, i can't, i can't, i can't not give a person a chance so that he somehow realizes himself and says well, yes, we all measure a person's mistake, a chance to correct it or there is such a moment, of course, if he, er, if he came with a weapon, er, to fight with us, that is, if he supports murder, if he supports torture, and for me, for example, if er, i

still understand. indeed, i could to understand when there was not a full-scale invasion and there a person somehow felt like that with well there is something there something is happening there, but it doesn't concern me, but when it's a full-scale, full-scale invasion, and it's already uh , it's unanimous. paying taxes is already a sign for me that a person supports uh, precisely the war against us, well, probably on right now, right now , i can't try this, i won't be able to forgive uh, i would like to refer to one of your posts, your social networks on facebook i will quote in language

the original and for me he was a little bit. well, i was taken aback by him. because you are in the armed forces of ukraine. you articulate your position very clearly. your wife served as a rubik. explain what this means to me in terms of age. well, because, er, when did all this begin in luhansk in the 14th year, i was like this, i was so uh, let's say it's not that in such an environment i had such a perception of all this that maybe it won't affect me in any way, well, probably something is happening there somewhere, so then uh, it was conscious that you don't need to do anything. well, that's it understanding that this is the first uh-uh when will it be the first blow when i wasn't there we are there for myself

i explain that i couldn't yes there well there somewhere uh-uh do you understand that you could well you just found someone there yes to i can't not go through, and that's why now that it's a full-scale offensive, i understand, i understand that no, well, that is, it's a second chance to give the uh, uh, the occupier so that he continues to do it there, you can't, that is, uh, i know a uh, bunch of people who uh, uh, are from luhansk , there are from donetsk left and drove all this so somewhere there something is happening and we are here there somewhere on in rivne region or something else in vinnytsia region, we live them and everything is fine with us. and i wrote this for myself, for them, and i can assume that this is a rather specific model of behavior and it does not

directly apply to residents of the eastern regions, many people in ukraine are from other regions i also didn't feel that what was happening in their uh-uh countries, uh-huh, in their country, but uh- huh, when and at what moment do you think this evil happened? did you understand that you won't run away anymore, you won't run away from here anymore, what it's already when they flew here in there were guys in peaceful cities much earlier, they say, there is such an opinion that there is no war until it does not apply to you, it happened to me so that i have where was my godmother at that time, who is she also there now, she is from 93 -th brigade and she went to war. it was in the 15th. she may have been in the 14th. i don't remember. it was a year ago and we had to help . and that's how it went, then there was an

awareness, and as we were working in the cemetery, they came to us to order a monument to a fighter, and i understood no, we can't make money on this, they won't , we did it at cost price, and sometimes without money at all, and gave 10% of each order for e-e to volunteers . i did a lot of work with the ministry, uh, i was there, that is, it was like that, uh. month two and then most ukrainians have already gone to ukraine

similar processes also took place, if we can generalize at all. i don't know, i can answer for myself. i don't really like questions. when we ask, they ask. how did he do that? what do you think about this ? i think i did, but at least the observations are also interesting, mr. pavlo, i thank you for this conversation in general and for what you do in particular, it was very thank you, thank you, our weapon is the truth, the only news with you is the social team at the forefront of the information front, we are talking about current events of the russian-ukrainian war everything will be ukraine the only news in the center of events vinnyk is an internal purpose and not an obligation - it is a mission and not a coercion - it is a high spirit and greatness, you can learn to

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