why did this happen due to the fact that during the previous 30 years the state did not pay due attention in this area and the borders with russia were transparent for a very long time the market was dominated by russian books and this did not give the opportunity to develop normally as a ukrainian publisher, the need for ukrainians in reading actual ukrainian literature in the ukrainian language was also not supported by any laws, even now, with the implementation of the law on the e-e language, there have been quite significant changes, when the entire sphere of education has shifted into the ukrainian language, and this immediately gave some impetus to the development, and in fact, in addition to the law of speech . this is how we observe a boom in ukrainian books, an increase in circulation, an increase in translations and

an increase in the number of authors after 2014. is it only at the legislative level that changes and influences on ukrainian the market and its development. and are other political and social processes also influencing it? well , political processes are something. what is happening in the state? and so i believe that the law on the language and the implementation of it, that is, the support of the ukrainian language as a state, its wide application in the field of education was the positive phenomenon that allowed to increase interest at least in the purchase of books in the ukrainian language, but we also all understand that the mood of readers was affected by the war started by russia in the 14th year, at the same time,

there was an e- there are also certain processes regarding the restriction of the import of russian books, in particular, all russian books had to pass control and obtain an import license; books with anti-ukrainian content were screened out, those that incite enmity and contribute to the spread of some russian ideas in ukraine, and it is obvious that this immediately stopped a very large flow of literature, because certain russian publishing houses, in particular, such as exmo, which produced and imported a very large number of books, found themselves under sanctions and thus sub-sector publishing houses, they could not bring any literature here at all, places on the

shelves became vacant, they had to be filled, and for ukrainian publishers it was a good opportunity , they immediately began to publish more and, well, well you know this process. it went on very well. in particular, in the 19th year, there were very total large circulations, already much more than before, well, but the covid pandemic happened and it stopped again and fell a little. to the ukrainian institute of books an unprecedentedly large sum of 183 million uah for the purchase of books to replenish library funds, and this could also very well contribute to the spread of ukrainian books well, but uh,

there was a war and these books did not get into the libraries, but actually you mentioned uh, about the imposition sanctions on the russian publishing house and also the licensing of the content of those books that enter the territory of ukraine, and this, as far as i remember, began to happen in 2015, but why, uh, in the 15th year, when the war with russia was already being fought, the import of russian books was not completely prohibited. well, i i'm sorry, but this is probably not my question, it's just that there's nothing to ask now, why do you think that it would help in some way in ukraine, if ukrainian or russian books were completely banned, let's say from the 14th year first of all, i want to say that since ukraine was not involved in the recent wars with russia, it was

simply unrealistic to introduce such sanctions that are not provided for by ukrainian legislation, you cannot simply ban the import of books from any country for no reason. and were guided by the possibilities of the current legislation. well, but i believe that even this licensing. it was a very positive signal and it worked . i continue to insist that any changes in the ukrainian book market, more powerful support, more powerful emotion, more powerful, simply not the presence of ukrainian books in the lives of ukrainians , it should have started in 1992, er, from the first

years of independence. of library funds, if all education was immediately transferred to the ukrainian language, then of course the situation would be completely different now under the ban. so we actually talked about licensing, so books with propagandistic content got into is it an effective method of spreading propaganda through books? yes, well, because now in 2022, we all read short forms of short texts, and how dangerous is the book? but in general, the whole worldview and some stereotypes are not formed since childhood, and that’s what a child will be taught at school, where she will

continue to think that this is the truth for the rest of her life, they will teach her that there is great russian literature, and she already in adulthood speaks some truth yes it is great russian literature and all other literatures hide it in its shadow, and here are their books, if the proportion of the presence of different literary books in any country is like that, it affects the worldview , not the worldview of adults. in ukraine, there is a fairly large and widespread system that covers those cities, towns, villages, etc., there is no possibility, let's say , of physical purchase of a book in a bookstore of your choice, to what extent are ukrainian libraries now filled with ukrainian books, and do ukrainian readers have access, in particular, to children's books, e national in may of this

year, the library of yaroslav the wise conducted a survey on the state of library funds . almost 3,000 libraries took part in this survey, and it is quite representative of all of ukraine. before the war, there were about 12,000 public libraries, and it turned out that in these libraries more than 50% funds, these are funds from soviet times, that is, books published before 1991, of these soviet books, books in russian make up almost 90%."

adding books is called actualization and it simply means that you have to consciously approach the funds to see which of these is physically obsolete, worn out, i will not now tell why this situation is, it is simply connected with organizational and

often financial issues, because the category of the library depends on how many funds it has, the number of employees and their remuneration depends on the category of libraries and that's why they tried not to write anything off, even if the books were very old and no one had asked for them for years, they still remained in the funds. to work than it was traditionally considered that the library ceased to be a bookshop, what is a library in the world, it is a place of active communication of the community, it is especially important for villages, for small towns, the library is a good, beautiful place for them to gather to solve their questions and also discuss books created book clubs

, i.e. actively and intelligently communicated. and this is precisely why it is necessary to carry out this updating of funds to free up space for new books and for such a spacious publication of new ideas and new any collaborations between members of the community, and is there already a well-known and worked-out system according to which the books will be updated, uh, you mean according to which system, uh, and which books will be withdrawn , because there are two stages of this process, uh, first you have to review the funds and actually leave only what is absolutely necessary, and the next stage is to think about how to fill and with what to replenish the library funds, if allowed, i will start with the second part, because it is this part that is

responsible or should be responsible for the ukrainian the institute of books is for replenishment, and we were engaged in this in 18-21 years, books were purchased from publishers in a completely insufficient quantity for it to be possible to talk about any major changes, but let's say the 500 or 600 libraries that received these books from us, they immediately noted a very positive influence and in a large with a large increase in reading activity, people began to go to libraries , people began to read, began to be interested well, but to cover all 12,000, obviously we could not finance too modest in general replenishment of funds relies mainly on local budgets , and before that, sufficient weight was not attached to it,

before there were no requirements regarding a fixed percentage or any amount of funds, or compliance with the renewal rate, it is 5%, by the way, that is , the fund of each library should be updated by 5% per year, that is, in 20 years, all the books should be completely updated. well, it's far from the way you heard and you didn't follow it. and so i forgot what i was supposed to say, i'll say what i mentioned in passing. it's just that that i am terribly infuriated by e-e library funds for with the same studies, it turns out that they were replenished from two to three million copies per year, this is a lot and it is almost close to that, well, half of the norm, but

uh, of the new purchases, it was less than one percent of the book institute plus local budgets for that it turns out that a lot of books came as gifts, and guess who from russia, yes, they were simply imported in huge quantities , gifts from russia. books that contribute to the establishment of the russian world here . and if it was a gift, it was not licensed, and that is, there can be books of any content. i think that they could be brought in unofficially through customs. they could be brought in just somehow by diplomatic mail, which i do not undertake to

confirm this but it looks like they got there and there were a lot of them, but in order to analyze the local books and generally the availability of funds, whether experts will be involved and everything will be at the libraries, this is still being discussed well, it's a very unclear system. but most likely it will be at the libraries themselves, which should also attract some people who are able to evaluate it. i have no idea how it can happen in the villages, let's say. that there is, er, some kind of sober view on this . the librarians, er, are probably qualified enough, there are teachers in schools near them, and that they will somehow cope with it, er, so far, the situation is different, because some have already started it, um, er, it means that

extraction and in particular in western ukraine in the center in the east of ukraine, it's going slower so far, they all think that pushkin is important there and dostoyevsky and chekhov. well, such discussions are good, but it's good , let there be these discussions, fairies, you just need to find a way to show those who doubt that it's really a russian tour. it only takes a certain amount of time. place among other literatures of the world well, here i want to say that there are too few translations into ukrainian of various literatures of the world in order to seriously talk about the fact that it is possible to replace russian translations with ukrainian ones when it was mentioned about the fact that a large part of the books that we replenished the library funds was imported from russia and in 2022 the verkhovna rada voted for a

bill prohibiting the import of books from the territory of the russian federation and belarus, but it has not yet been signed, so i will ask you to tell our viewers what the essence is does this law help the ukrainian book publishing house that was voted for? why can there be a delay in signing ? i know why there can be a delay. the law was adopted by the verkhovna rada and has not been ratified. by the president but not signed by the president, and according to our legislation it should still enter into force two weeks after the veto from the president has not been received. well, it is obviously the responsibility of the verkhovna rada. why has it not yet been published as having entered into

force ? uh, i don’t take it upon myself to judge the reasons, it’s incredible , there are some influences here, again, what is good, bulgakov is good, pushkin is good, well, i don’t know. maybe some of the russian writers are still alive , uh, who can actively oppose putin’s regime, and the law prohibits the importation and distribution of all e-e books of all russian authors there, with the exception of those who seem to have died before the year 1991. this law not only applies to importation, but also to distribution, and in principle , there are no restrictions on classics . to publish ukrainian publishing houses because they can publish e-e according to the law on language they can publish russian books on the condition that 50% of the same edition

will be printed in ukrainian, i.e. a mandatory translation of pushkin into ukrainian e-e i believe that that sooner or later this law will be signed. because, as i said before, there is no legal import of books. because they do not issue licenses, it means there is no import . the number of books that were not sold in the previous period, and they are all resold, resold, and as such, if they are, you know, you can put new and new ones, if they are, where to get them. and here we go to such a difficult topic for our market - it is counterfeit

the products are books that were printed on the territory of ukraine from ready-made layouts of mainly russian books and were distributed almost illegally, because mainly only through eh these - that means such platforms. well , also somewhere in the bazaars and so on, these were, as a rule, very cheap books of very poor quality, much cheaper than the originals. well, they simply destroyed the entire market in general, because they got people used to the fact that the book costs an unrealistically high price where are all the expenses for it invested, but it can cost a conditional 100 uah instead of 300, yes and well. of course, it was bad and this continues. unfortunately, in

the future, and in fact, according to this law, there will be more opportunities to withdraw books that are already on sale. also counterfeits, so then they can then all sellers will be obliged to simply remove these books from sale, and anyone who will still keep them in his possession already has the risk of receiving fines , and therefore, actually, after this law comes into force, we foresee what will happen again well i don't i will call it a crisis, but jumps in the ukrainian book market, so when a small part of the production disappeared, it must be filled by ukrainian publishers, who suffered quite a lot after the beginning of the full-scale invasion. and actually, will we have a shortage of books or not? it is extremely difficult to predict something, it is extremely difficult to build any strategic plans

, we and the publishers live today and see what the situation is today, we try to predict tomorrow, but already a week in advance, it is difficult to understand what will happen, first of all, what is going on in the market , not only that, we had very little ryn book, it is 220 for the whole of ukraine, all in all of them ended up in the occupied territories, some of them closed down because, er, there is not enough circulation of money to support them somewhere, the staff left somewhere , something else happened and now no one even knows how many of these bookstores, the largest part of the trade has moved to the online store, which are still operating, and thank god and postal delivery is valid on

unoccupied territory of ukraine, and it is not known what will happen to the purchasing power. that is, it is almost already known, it is falling rapidly, approaching zero , and if people have to choose whether to buy food or pay for rented housing or there for medicines, it is obvious that the choice will not be in favor of books, but today it is still almost impossible to see, but what will happen tomorrow well, we will see tomorrow well, i really hope that it will not be bad, yes, and i really hope, i really look forward to our greater flowering of ukrainian book publishing after the victory new texts will come to us, we will have special new translations, because ukraine is now building incredible connections and relations with many countries. i think that

culturally, and in general, we will also maintain these connections with books. oleksandra koval's guest mrs. oleksandr thank you very much for this conversation. thank you. i would like to remind you that the cultural instinct program is social culture. we talked today about the state of ukrainian book publishing, about the ban on the import of russian books into the territory of ukraine, and also about what influenced the development of ukrainian book publishing and what will be its future stay with us have a nice day unconquered cities of ukraine kryvyi rih the iron heart of ukraine and the longest city in europe its man-made landscapes attract guests and industrial tourism is actively developing in the city kryvyi rih lands were part of the

zaporizhzhya army in the city the central governing body of kish of zaporizhzhya sich was located during archaeological excavations in balka dubova, ukrainian archaeologist oleksandr pol - discovered the remains smelting furnaces that testify that metallurgy was still practiced here by the scythians during the years of nazi occupation , the head of the city administration, serhiy sherstyuk, led the popular resistance and introduced the official use of the ukrainian language and anthem . an iron heart also has a steel cossack character kryvyi rih a driven merchant - this is an internal purpose and not

an obligation - this is a mission and not a compulsion - this is a high spirit and greatness can be taught to hold a fire hose and it is impossible to teach to save someone else's life sometimes what the heart teaches teaches not to back down no matter how difficult it is to be ready for self-sacrifice to be courageous to be humane to be a role model for others state emergency service we will save we will restore we will win kateryna osadchai's project from the search for the missing to find their own tomorrow at 21:30 under the occupation, they bravely helped others so that it will be in our family, the nephew delivered groceries until he was taken prisoner, a lot of her the man was helping to take people out of buchi and disappeared

." good evening. visokopillya is really coming back to life, i can’t say that it is a peaceful life, but it is

really recovering after the occupation, uh, humanitarian aid is distributed in the village, she goes there regularly, local residents go to the point and receive such food packages in the village, there is still no electricity, water, gas, that’s why locals have to collect firewood and actually cook food on such bonfires, because there are also apartment buildings, so people simply cook food in their yards often well, who lives there in private houses , after all, they also have to use firewood uh, what can you say about life in the occupation , about how it has changed now, from communicating with the locals, uh, i learned that during the occupation er, at least three more local residents , this is confirmed information, were shot by the

russian military, er, it is still unknown, er, why, er, there are rumors among the locals about the ukrainian position, er, we went to cemeteries with a local resident who he was engaged in burial well, if he had shown such an initiative, he himself was an entrepreneur before that, and during the occupation, when he took the initiative, he hid from the local residents who died under the occupation, he said that three people were shot by the russian military, in fact, two of them of them were his neighbors. how many people now remain in the village and are there people who want to leave or evacuate when there is already such an opportunity, or vice versa, maybe people are returning and is there a place to return to the village in the past, there were

several thousand people, of course, during the war people left visokopill and under the occupation more than a hundred people lived, but there are about 150 people, now there are about three hundred of them, that is, people are returning, even if the houses are broken, they are rebuilding their housing, they are competing to restore it and are very worried about what if hostilities are active again will be restored in the visokopill area, well , in fact, the repair work they are carrying out is preparing for winter, they will all go to waste and well, but the local residents, despite this, are returning to visokopil and are somehow trying to adjust their lives but i wouldn't say that this village is already living such a peaceful life because you can hear it there